After I appeared on a PBS panel about Tea Party racism last week, some commenters here wondered why I didn't object to moderator Gwen Ifill's use of the term "teabaggers" (answer: I didn't even notice it, such is the general filth-content of my brain). Anyway, PBS Ombudsman Michael Getler says the Corporation received a lot of complaints, and Ifill has now apologized:
Ombudsman's Note: Ifill says, "Turns out I am the only person with access to email who never knew this was a term with a sexual meaning. I used it in an offhand manner as a shorthand referring to the 'tea party' movement. It was a slip I was unaware of, and I regret it." I would add that I didn't know that either.
As usual, I sincerely hope that Tea Partiers decide to wholeheartedly embrace the term rather than adding still more gross national product to the anti-defamation industry, but the trend lines suggest otherwise.
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BULLSHIT, of course she knew what the term refered to. All part of the general degradation of civil discousre, and the apology was backpedaling when she got called on it.
Ifill is no doubt a liar. I have noticed black callers to cspan and local radio have gotten the memo and use the teabagging term every chance they get. It is beginning to wee wee me up.
If Gwin Ifill has an appearance of impropriety for writing about a politician running for president this year, we have to exclude every political journalist in America on the same grounds.
"Ifill is no doubt a liar. I have noticed black callers to cspan and local radio have gotten the memo and use the teabagging term every chance they get."
So, other black people know what the term means, therefore she must also?
I see no reason to disbelieve her. At the very least, I think that there is room for some doubt that she is a liar.
I think Ifill didn't know what the term means, but still understood it to be an insult and used it anyway. She's a professional journalist and it doesn't take a PhD in nuance to understand that Maddow and the rest say it with a sneer.
Both the ombudsman and Ifill didn't know what "teabagging" was. Proof, as if it were needed, that PBS has it's finger on the pulse of disconnected eggheads.
How many times is this gonna come up before someone points out that the "teabagger" term was devised by the throwers of the first 2008 tea party events - namely, Ron Paul fans? They kept referring to themselves as teabaggers, teabagging people for Ron Paul. Then the likes of Wonkette picked it up and ran with it, and it got generalized to anyone throwing a tea party. But acting like it's a nefarious scheme invented by the liberal media is disingenuous.
We need to introduce Gwen to various other terms, such as "Spacedocking", "Hot Carl", etc. The more she uses those on NPR, the more chance I'll listen to it.
Context is everything. For example, if I call Warty a grannyfister, the audience here knows that it's just a humorous observation about a sexual perversion he is obsessed with. But if I call Ifill a grannyfister, not know anything about her sexual proclivities, it becomes an insult.
As to the offensive part, the Maddow and company smirk is probably based on thinking that the "teabaggers" are admitting to a gay sex act, rather than a video game "pwning" finishing move. Counter-productive for gay acceptance to make heterosexist jokes, don't you think?
There is probably more straight tea-bagging going on than gay tea-bagging. Gays only make up a small portion of the population whereas sexually liberated women are much more common now that this latest generation is fully immersed in porn.
Ifill says, "Turns out I am the only person with access to email who never knew this was a term with a sexual meaning.
Bull. Shit.
I don't believe her for an instant. She's not some Mormon from a commune in the hills. She is a sophisticated urban elite woman. No frickin' way she and her buddies weren't giggling over "teabagger."
I suggest that Ifil use Martyrdom for Perk 3 - it'll clear the room of any mindless teabaggers (or get her an extra kill or 2). If she's still playing Halo 3 (what a n00b), then there's really nothing that can save her.
Maddow was practically dripping with heterophobia when she said "teabagger".
It's just because (at least, to my knowledge) no one has yet coined an analogous term for the corresponding lesbian sex act. Stretched-out, wrinkly labia need to be dangled in (consenting) mouths too, dammit.
If it is being used as a man on woman act, where's the insult? And if it is not meant as an insult, why the smirk?
[Suki shaking fist at SF for discovering Feministing and my channeling it]
Because it puts the inferior, oppressive male in the dominant position!
[/Suki shaking fist at SF for discovering Feministing and my channeling it]
While there is a sexual position called the Jellyfish, the act looks nothing like a jellyfish.
Site NSFW.
In the comments of that page:
I'm a 5'7 female in my late twenties and I have a pretty nice body, though it's still a bit out of shape and I have extra weight, especially around my stomach. I'm very self-conscious about this and it keeps me from relaxing and enjoying sex more. I've been generally conservative in the bedroom so far, but lately I'm really getting into experimenting more the older I get. I get hot very easily now and I want to just "let go" about some things, but I can't help but feel unattractive and gross when considering a lot of these positions. Outside of working out more(which I am doing) what can you say to make a woman feel more at ease with an imperfect body during sex? How much of a turn-off is extra tummy weight? Or a nice but relatively untoned body?
I sincerely hope that Tea Partiers decide to wholeheartedly embrace the term rather than adding still more gross national product to the anti-defamation industry
That will depend, my Lord, on whether I embrace your principles or your mistress.
I used to visit Reason on a regular basis until it became evident from "comments" that the readership had devolved into a bunch of 16 year old boys, more interested in politics than their high school peers but still immature. Every once in a while I drop by to see if anything has changed.
A 41-year-old man was arrested on Monday at at Madeira Beach after witnesses said he repeatedly pretended to drown, then allegedly began tossing jellyfish at nearby teenagers. According to a sheriff's office report, Keith Edward Marriott caused "concern for his safety" when he repeatedly submerged himself and floated back to the top of the water. He was also "loud and disruptive."
So you military guys call it your "vocabulary?" Your deployment patois frightens and intrigues me.
Good one :p
Anyway, I don't get Mandy Cat. It would seem obvious from the teabaggin' theme of the article that the comment section wouldn't be a appropriate for genteel women of delicate disposition. And what James Ard said.
Hey Mandy, bend over for me, will ya? That's it, now loosen up the pucker. This will only take a second. You are doing great. There we've got it. Wanna keep the stick?
Ifill is Awful, but I believe she didn't know about Teabagging's sexual connotation. After all, she works for PBS where being insulated from truth and reality is a necessary condition for continued employment.
I find the level of discourse on this blog to be slightly more honest than that of a PBS panel on tea party racism even if it is a little more direct in its vulgarisms.
In pubs in Old Berlin, it was common to have high-rising glass display cases (Hungerturm, meaning "hunger tower") on the bar to present ready-to-eat dishes like lard bread, salt eggs, meatballs, mettwurst (bacon sausage) and of course rollmops.
Tacobagging:
The act of placing a vagina on someone's face while they're asleep/passed out. Teabagging with a vagina and not a nutsack
While Tim was in a drunk coma, Brii started tacobagging him after watching the other guys teabag him repeatedly
Jim Treacher, are you suggesting the Gwen Ifill might have a bias toward the running mate of a man she wrote a hagiography of? Shocking. I am shocked, I say!
I expect you all to partake of my roasted flesh. Save my giant cock for Episiarch... He's been obsessed with it so long, it'd be a shame for him to miss out.
Yeah, and Don Imus claimed to no avail he didn't know about the racial connotations of "nappy-headed" after he got caught too. Somehow I suspect ignorance will be accepted as a defense in this case, though.
As usual, I sincerely hope that Tea Partiers decide to wholeheartedly embrace the term rather than adding still more gross national product to the anti-defamation industry, but the trend lines suggest otherwise.
Actually, I haven't seen so much outrage as just line-drawing. If somebody uses the term in an op-ed, we immediately know which side they're on. Case in point: Kathleen Parker used the term. Commenters immediately replied: "Ah ha! We always knew you were fellating 0bama, you RINO whore!" (She was already unpopular, though--mostly for verbally fellating 0bama for several months during and after the election.)
If you say "tea partiers" or some variation thereof, you're presumed sympathetic.
If you say "teabaggers" or some variation thereof, you're presumed hostile.
There's a market for old people in "I got Teabagged" shirts. Or:
It moves I'll (tea)bag it.
PWND and TEABAGGED
Noobs will be teabagged.
Teabag Obama.
Obama wiggle dunked my purple bulldog cheeks and all I got was this t-shirt.
I encountered this message in a bathroom stall off the 540 scenic loop just north of Fort Smitth Arkansas last Friday. Just wondering which one of you is responsible for this. And the wife was wondering why I went back to the bathroom with my camera...
As to why "teabagging" is used as an insult by Maddow and the like...they assume (rightly in many cases, I'm sure) that the protestors, since they are mostly middle-aged and older white right-wing people, are (or were, at any rate, before use of the word became a matter of debate) unaware that "teabagging" has any sort of sexual connotations. So the sight of right-wing protestors willingly if inadvertently using a sexual term to refer to themselves is the height of hilarity to liberals, who like to believe that supporters of the right are completely out of touch with mainstream society.
That's why they continue to use it in an insulting manner, and why Maddow makes that stupid face every time she says it.
Personally, the Red vs. Blue reference (picture) in the article is how I'd always originally heard of teabagging, not as a "sexual" act, per se, but rather as the kind of insult one plays on drunk compatriots at frat parties.
I've assumed that when leftists use the term "teabagging" to describe tea partyiers they did so because they find it funny while reminding them why they only wish they could engage ni some hot and heavy teabagging. after all leftists are notoriously for psychological projection when it comes to their opponents.
It has been a fun ride...i mean Gwen Iffil said "Teabag". Can't get better then that.
but rather as the kind of insult one plays on drunk compatriots at frat parties.
My understanding of it blossomed from playing a mutliplayer version of castle wolfenstein and it is an insult you do to the corpse of another player's avatar after you kill them.
Since then I have seen this in various other multiplayer games.
My understanding of it blossomed from playing a mutliplayer version of castle wolfenstein and it is an insult you do to the corpse of another player's avatar after you kill them.
I should note that to t-bag someone is a display of dominance. Not only to humiliate the player you just killed but to show you are so good at this game that you can take the risk of repeatedly sitting on your opponent's face and expose yourself to attack from other players.
I was referencing video game t-bagging... go watch Pure Pwnage 😉
Ummm no you didn't, you wrote "but rather as the kind of insult one plays on drunk compatriots at frat parties." and Pure Pwnage is unwatchable and unfunny and explains absolutely nothing about t-baging.
Uh, sean has been referencing games all along. Starting with RvB or halo reference to CW pvp. First time I remember t-bagging people was EQ late 99 when zeks went live.
Jim... The *point* I made was that while it might be sexually appealing to a minute fraction of the human population, the main use I'd ever heard of it in relation to was as an insult...
The idea of any sexual practice being popularized by gamers is plausible only to gamers.
Not really. But if you think so it's okay.
Memes are generated faster than ever with the internet, and the meme of teabagging took hold primarily through gaming. Just like there were lolcats in early history, the concept reached an entirely new height in recent years. Of course you can always play the, "THEY DID IT FIRST." card. But I'm hoping we can avoid that level of silliness.
PS. The condescension toward gaming and those who play is a little silly as well, but heh nerds have been ridiculed for a while. At least we don't have to carry around funny looking dice now.
Have you asked him? Until then your assumption really doesn't carry much weight.
I'll take the view that there are at least 10 million people estimated to be playing or have played just one MMO where this practice of virtual teabagging has been common. Just one MMO of many. Of course, it could always be blamed on the /b tards. They can be blamed for everything.
I like how you picked the gay guy to make the point. That wasn't convenient or anything. The sexual connotation has always been present, after all it is a sexual act. But up until this summer if you googled teabagging you got page after page of gaming references with a smattering of college humor style pranks. I guess the gay guys didn't talk about it much back then.
I'll credit the meme to gaming. Now to figure out who to pin lolcats on.
You can match that 10 million plus number to most studies putting gamers as a percentage of the US population from 50% to 65%. Some countries like South Korea are higher.
I can bring more to the table than Anderson Cooper is gay and probably doesn't play video games. You know, like anecdotal evidence such as Google hits, percentages of gamers, numbers of people playing games.
You should probably try to be more indignant.
I could be, but what's the point. All you bring to the table is some weak connection between a gay reporter and relatively snide comments.
Considering he's the one who went on his newscast with it, yeah. But he probably got it from Halo.
I'm pretty sure more than one blog picked up on the connection before MSNBC. I think Olberman beat Cooper to the punch as well.
For the record I didn't say Cooper got the slang from gaming. I even acknowledge that he might not have. So can we just let that strawman stay out in the field?
The meme was created or pushed into pop culture through gaming, and now the tea parties. I won't dispute the current push is greater in scope than the former. But the meme existed in mass prior to its current form.
You seem to be awfully anti-gamer. Did you get pwned like a noob and teabaged in Halo or another MMO?
Why? Maybe I like bagging noobs. Who says girls can't be noobs? Does it matter if noobs are male or female? Do I detect a hint of homophobia, or is it just an assumption that gamers are all fat guys living in their mom's basement who can't get girls.
Either way, and to quote another meme.
Epic Fail.
and
/teabag
congratulations. You may be the first person to get pwned and teabagged in the Reason comment section.
I'm always proud when I teabag someone. After all it is seen as as sign of dominance.
At least it was more of a gaming oriented teabagging and not a more Anderson Cooper oriented teabagging. I assume you prefer the former based on your "try girls" comment.
Kind of, except it's babble with more teabagging. Well, there's also more content than shitty analogies and strawmen, but that really isn't too important.
Your responses are getting more and more non sequitur in nature. Are you trolling me?
Jim... The *point* I made was that while it might be sexually appealing to a minute fraction of the human population, the main use I'd ever heard of it in relation to was as an insult...
How many men have you actually talked to who don't like getting their balls sucked? I have tons of males friends and I can't imagine one of them saying 'having my balls sucked is gross!! icky, icky coodies!'
I wouldn't project whatever prudish issues you have onto other people.
I don't think that was necessarily what he was getting at. I'm seeing a different context there than prude.
For the record I haven't asked any of my male friends if they like having their nuts sucked. I just can't come up with a good segue into the conversation.
For the record I haven't asked any of my male friends if they like having their nuts sucked. I just can't come up with a good segue into the conversation.
Why would I hurry? I already pwned and and bagged you. Hurrying would be like running to the car after winning a marathon. Remember the silly Cooper analogy and strawman you threw out.
The poor Reason intern who had to do a Google image search on "teabagging" finally came through with a winner after viewing thirty pages of gay porn.
He (or she) paid the ultimate price for libertarian journalism.
Gwen Ifil is a horrible, horrible person. She even wrote a book about Obama (reverse racist hagiographic CRAP)!
BOYCOTT PBS!!!
Matt and Nick are the biggest proponents of the practice on the Reason staff, but only because Drew Carey is an independent contractor.
Although "Peter Bagge" might actually be the screen name of an amateur video star who excels at the practice.
Wasn't Gwen Ifill under fire for moderating some presidential debate? I can't remember the details, nor be bothered to look them up.
Oh, wait, PRMP put them in his/her post (which I skipped over due to the author).
I just now caught on to the mouse-over tag. You score again, Mr. Welch.
Not so sure about this strategy, but then again yankee doodle sounds even worse and it worked.
The alt-text is wonderful.
Matt, how could you not know what "teabagging" meant? Christ, we've probably mentioned it about 1000 times on these forums.
Mac: You put your balls in my mouth while I was sleeping?
Dennis: Yeah, man. Twice.
Mac: That's rape! That is borderline rape!
TEABAGGING YOU FOR FREEDOM!
YOU TEABAGING FOR FREEDOM?
FREEDOM FOR TEABAGGING YOU!
YOU FOR TEABAGGING FREEDOM?
Matt, how could you not know what "teabagging" meant? Christ, we've probably mentioned it about 1000 times on these forums.
Is it not clear that the excerpted text is excerpted text? I've known about teabagging ever since ... uh, Moynihan told me about it?
BULLSHIT, of course she knew what the term refered to. All part of the general degradation of civil discousre, and the apology was backpedaling when she got called on it.
Gwen Ifill, you lie!
I didn't even notice it, such is the general filth-content of my brain
Whoops, sorry Matt. I misinterpreted the above part at first. Of course you know about teabagging, from your time working in that Turkish harem.
You're losing your edge, Epi. Get your head in the game.
PBS Ombudsman Michael Getler needs to spend more time on 4chan so that he is aware of the full array of dirty references.
I AM A TEABAGGER!
Warty, you worked with Matt in Turkey, right? But you're more of a gorilla masker.
I don't know, she's 50. When did that term become popular? It's possible her generation didn't use it growing up.
Whatever the case, don't let those teabags steep unless you're makin' that consensual tea.
But you're more of a gorilla masker.
YOU LEAVE STEVE SMITH OUT OF THIS!
As soon as Obama embraces the term 'cunt' to describe himself, then that's when Tea Party folks should embrace the term.
Ifill is no doubt a liar. I have noticed black callers to cspan and local radio have gotten the memo and use the teabagging term every chance they get. It is beginning to wee wee me up.
John-David,
Beware. It is a particularly stomach turning performance.
PBS Ombudsman Michael Getler needs to spend more time on 4chan so that he is aware of the full array of dirty references.
I'm reasonably certain 4chan violates all kind of NPR policies if viewed at work.
If the consevatives are teabaggers, doesn't that make the liberals "teabagees?
So this means that Ifill is completely unaware of the derisive way the MSM has been covering the movement. Unsurprising.
The term has been common at least since Sex and the City. I think Gwen's just trying to throw us off the scent of her huge crush on SJP.
SugarFree,
You you'ed that link.
"Ifill is no doubt a liar. I have noticed black callers to cspan and local radio have gotten the memo and use the teabagging term every chance they get."
So, other black people know what the term means, therefore she must also?
I see no reason to disbelieve her. At the very least, I think that there is room for some doubt that she is a liar.
I sent Gwen an email to let her know to add "pearl necklace" and "snowballing" to the listen of terms to avoid. I marked it as urgent, just in case.
Yes she was the focus of one of a neverending supply of right-wing tantrums.
Copy link location FAIL. Heir.
Wow. I figured her for a John Waters fan.
Somebody please forward this to Ms Ifill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi9hgqZr6fs
I think Ifill didn't know what the term means, but still understood it to be an insult and used it anyway. She's a professional journalist and it doesn't take a PhD in nuance to understand that Maddow and the rest say it with a sneer.
Zeb, I suspect she's working from the same playbook that all of the other organized supporters of Obama are working from, the morning memo.
I think Ifill didn't know what the term means, but still understood it to be an insult and used it anyway.
I'll agree with that. She doesn't get the insult, but used it anyway because everyone around her is using it.
Shut the fuck up, Tony.
Both the ombudsman and Ifill didn't know what "teabagging" was. Proof, as if it were needed, that PBS has it's finger on the pulse of disconnected eggheads.
Good thing joe is gone. What a fucktard.
Remember 10/03/08, never forget.
In other news, Omamuhammad is meeting with the terrorists and Israel to get the latter to march into the sea.
How many times is this gonna come up before someone points out that the "teabagger" term was devised by the throwers of the first 2008 tea party events - namely, Ron Paul fans? They kept referring to themselves as teabaggers, teabagging people for Ron Paul. Then the likes of Wonkette picked it up and ran with it, and it got generalized to anyone throwing a tea party. But acting like it's a nefarious scheme invented by the liberal media is disingenuous.
We need to introduce Gwen to various other terms, such as "Spacedocking", "Hot Carl", etc. The more she uses those on NPR, the more chance I'll listen to it.
I'm not sure why calling someone a teabagger is that offensive. Who doesn't like to place their balls into someone's mouth when the occasion dictates?
"Is it not clear that the excerpted text is excerpted text? I've known about teabagging ever since ... uh, Moynihan told me about it?"
Told you about it or demonstrated it? Not that there is anything wrong with that.
Ska,
Context is everything. For example, if I call Warty a grannyfister, the audience here knows that it's just a humorous observation about a sexual perversion he is obsessed with. But if I call Ifill a grannyfister, not know anything about her sexual proclivities, it becomes an insult.
As to the offensive part, the Maddow and company smirk is probably based on thinking that the "teabaggers" are admitting to a gay sex act, rather than a video game "pwning" finishing move. Counter-productive for gay acceptance to make heterosexist jokes, don't you think?
SF,
true, and Maddow was practically dripping with heterophobia when she said "teabagger".
Episiarch,
Damn right! And she should issue a different apology after every show.
SugarFree,
I interpreted Maddow's comments as anti-scrotum. I mean, aesthetically speaking I can't blame her, but her comments seem rather misandrist to me.
a gay sex act
There is probably more straight tea-bagging going on than gay tea-bagging. Gays only make up a small portion of the population whereas sexually liberated women are much more common now that this latest generation is fully immersed in porn.
Ifill says, "Turns out I am the only person with access to email who never knew this was a term with a sexual meaning.
Bull. Shit.
I don't believe her for an instant. She's not some Mormon from a commune in the hills. She is a sophisticated urban elite woman. No frickin' way she and her buddies weren't giggling over "teabagger."
sophisticated urban elite woman
RACIST
Very insightful rsponses.
I suggest that Ifil use Martyrdom for Perk 3 - it'll clear the room of any mindless teabaggers (or get her an extra kill or 2). If she's still playing Halo 3 (what a n00b), then there's really nothing that can save her.
I have no insight into the demographics of teabagging.
But...
If it is being used as a man on woman act, where's the insult? And if it is not meant as an insult, why the smirk?
Maddow was practically dripping with heterophobia when she said "teabagger".
It's just because (at least, to my knowledge) no one has yet coined an analogous term for the corresponding lesbian sex act. Stretched-out, wrinkly labia need to be dangled in (consenting) mouths too, dammit.
You need a catchy name for that, Dagny.
It's just because (at least, to my knowledge) no one has yet coined an analogous term for the corresponding lesbian sex act
I hereby name that act: Jellyfishing.
I'm not buying it at all. I saw the interview with Matt. When Ifill said "teabaggers" her micro-expression said tee hee with a dirty little smile.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rss/redir/http://newshour-tc.pbs.org/newshour/rss/media/2009/09/16/20090916_race.mp3
Probably because "roast beef sandwich maker" is too damn long, Dagny.
If it is being used as a man on woman act, where's the insult? And if it is not meant as an insult, why the smirk?
[Suki shaking fist at SF for discovering Feministing and my channeling it]
Because it puts the inferior, oppressive male in the dominant position!
[/Suki shaking fist at SF for discovering Feministing and my channeling it]
Like my response time.
Streaming Video here:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/images/primary/icons/btn_sv_o.gif
"I hereby name that act: Jellyfishing."
No No No. The proper name is "Clam Digging"
While there is a sexual position called the Jellyfish, the act looks nothing like a jellyfish.
Site NSFW.
In the comments of that page:
grannyfister
Go autobukkake yourself.
But John, "digging" doesn't conjure the dangling, distended labia like the jellyfish does.
Beside, clam digging is when a chick has a yeast infection and keeps scratching in public.
Okay SugerFree, how about "Oyster Sucking"
I sincerely hope that Tea Partiers decide to wholeheartedly embrace the term rather than adding still more gross national product to the anti-defamation industry
That will depend, my Lord, on whether I embrace your principles or your mistress.
Mopping would seem to fit, but it's just too damn simple.
Or a nice but relatively untoned body?
That's a joeworthy phrase there.
How much of a turn-off is extra tummy weight? Or a nice but relatively untoned body?
If she wants to be a Domme it could work to her advantage.
There's a clear nautical theme happening here. "Oyster Sucking" is pretty good, John.
I used to visit Reason on a regular basis until it became evident from "comments" that the readership had devolved into a bunch of 16 year old boys, more interested in politics than their high school peers but still immature. Every once in a while I drop by to see if anything has changed.
Nope.
"Mopping"? Perfect.
Better, but it still doesn't imply the dangling aspect. You could oyster suck in almost any position.
Also...
Mandy Cat, you're not gonna cancel your subscription are you?
Anyway, my vocabulary's way bigger than it was when I was 16. 😛
Look at me, I daresay I am OFFENDED. Harumph, I say, good sir. GOOD DAY!
Hey Mandy Cat. I just finished with your mother. You'll need to wash her.
But isn't mopping more of a rubbing action than a dipping action? But I guess there is the repeated bucket plunging and wet slopping sounds...
"You could oyster suck in almost any position"
I have.
I'd third oyster sucking, but it might turn Mandy off. Will she ever realize all men are sixteen year old boys?
Anyway, my vocabulary's way bigger than it was when I was 16.
So you military guys call it your "vocabulary?" Your deployment patois frightens and intrigues me.
SugarFree,
That article is a perfect example of how the most awesome people are often the worst role models.
Camel drop?
Guys, we should totally be serious in a thread about teabagging. There's nothing funny about teabagging. Nothing at all.
MC,
readership had devolved into a bunch of 16 year old boys
Ahem . . .
Good one :p
Anyway, I don't get Mandy Cat. It would seem obvious from the teabaggin' theme of the article that the comment section wouldn't be a appropriate for genteel women of delicate disposition. And what James Ard said.
Bad timing, Mandy Cat. Better luck next time.
Guys, we should totally be serious in a thread about teabagging. There's nothing funny about teabagging. Nothing at all.
Why does that remind me of that artist during the election who could not believe a guy named Barrack Obama was running for president?
Xeones,
She'll read your comment when the smelling salts kick it.
Right now the vapors have laid her out on the divan.
I am sure she will give the girls at Feministing a full report after she has recovered.
Hey Mandy, bend over for me, will ya? That's it, now loosen up the pucker. This will only take a second. You are doing great. There we've got it. Wanna keep the stick?
Ifill is Awful, but I believe she didn't know about Teabagging's sexual connotation. After all, she works for PBS where being insulated from truth and reality is a necessary condition for continued employment.
Mandy Cat,
I find the level of discourse on this blog to be slightly more honest than that of a PBS panel on tea party racism even if it is a little more direct in its vulgarisms.
Up with tuna-dipping!
If Ifill were in western Pennsylvania, she would order a Pittsburgh Platter because she didn't know any better.
I certainly don't mind all these progressive-minded people outing themselves as teabaggees.
OK - in order to keep the seafood flavor alive with our name search, I present rollmops.
Ska,
Best part of link:
"Hunger tower" is just an awesome term.
She moderated a debate that included somebody she was writing a book about, you teabaggee.
Tacobagging:
The act of placing a vagina on someone's face while they're asleep/passed out. Teabagging with a vagina and not a nutsack
While Tim was in a drunk coma, Brii started tacobagging him after watching the other guys teabag him repeatedly
I also appreciated Katerfr?hst?ck (hangover breakfast). Any language that has a word for hangover breakfast is a-ok with me.
And no one who speaks German could be a bad man.
And no one who speaks German could be a bad man.
You shouldn't even joke about that, Ska.
After all, i believe Warty is conversational in Deutsch.
"Up with tuna-dipping!"
or sushidangling
or sushidangling
Gashimi?
Which was she writing a book about, Joe Biden or Sarah Palin?
If you don't know which one is Barack Obama's Vice President, you're even more of a teabaggee than we thought.
Gashimi?
Holy fuck that's awesome.
I bow before Ravac's cunning linguism.
"Which was she writing a book about, Joe Biden or Sarah Palin?"
Obama you stupid teabagee.
The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama
http://www.amazon.com/Breakthrough-Politics-Race-Age-Obama/dp/0767928903/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253646514&sr=1-1&tag=reasonmagazinea-20
Jim Treacher, are you suggesting the Gwen Ifill might have a bias toward the running mate of a man she wrote a hagiography of? Shocking. I am shocked, I say!
Sweet'n'Low, why are you and Treach so racist?
I'll let you know at my auto de f
I'll let you know at my auto de f?.
I'm bringing hot dogs. Who wants to bring the s'mores fixins?
If not for that biased Gwen Ifill, Sarah Palin wouldn't have looked like such a crazy dumbass bitch!
I expect you all to partake of my roasted flesh. Save my giant cock for Episiarch... He's been obsessed with it so long, it'd be a shame for him to miss out.
Hey Tony. You suck today. Again.
Yeah, and Don Imus claimed to no avail he didn't know about the racial connotations of "nappy-headed" after he got caught too. Somehow I suspect ignorance will be accepted as a defense in this case, though.
Haven't read any of the comments yet, but I'm guessing this is the funniest thread of the day.
I expect you all to partake of my roasted flesh.
Ewwww. I'll pass.
Fools don't eat of SugarFree his soul will destroy your pancreas.
But it will be sweet from stored sugar! Minimum +25 health, I swear.
Actually, I haven't seen so much outrage as just line-drawing. If somebody uses the term in an op-ed, we immediately know which side they're on. Case in point: Kathleen Parker used the term. Commenters immediately replied: "Ah ha! We always knew you were fellating 0bama, you RINO whore!" (She was already unpopular, though--mostly for verbally fellating 0bama for several months during and after the election.)
If you say "tea partiers" or some variation thereof, you're presumed sympathetic.
If you say "teabaggers" or some variation thereof, you're presumed hostile.
Simple as that.
There's a market for old people in "I got Teabagged" shirts. Or:
It moves I'll (tea)bag it.
PWND and TEABAGGED
Noobs will be teabagged.
Teabag Obama.
Obama wiggle dunked my purple bulldog cheeks and all I got was this t-shirt.
Try the cock, T. It's a delicacy.
And you know where it's been.
I encountered this message in a bathroom stall off the 540 scenic loop just north of Fort Smitth Arkansas last Friday. Just wondering which one of you is responsible for this. And the wife was wondering why I went back to the bathroom with my camera...
Prole, read away... and you're right. Hard to read at work.
bigbigslacker,
The "GOD will get you fags" part was me.
Try the cock, T. It's a delicacy.
And you know where it's been.
And that's why I'm declining. I know too much.
Actually, SF, it is now "Franklyn will get you fags."
And you know where it's been.
Deadwood had a great line: "He's been pickling his prick in the cunt brine of another."
I always think of that when I eat chicken salad for some reason.
Deadwood had a great line: "He's been pickling his prick in the cunt brine of another."
I always think of that when I eat chicken salad for some reason.
More evidence, as if more were needed, that you are a deeply twisted individual.
And I say that with the utmost respect.
As to why "teabagging" is used as an insult by Maddow and the like...they assume (rightly in many cases, I'm sure) that the protestors, since they are mostly middle-aged and older white right-wing people, are (or were, at any rate, before use of the word became a matter of debate) unaware that "teabagging" has any sort of sexual connotations. So the sight of right-wing protestors willingly if inadvertently using a sexual term to refer to themselves is the height of hilarity to liberals, who like to believe that supporters of the right are completely out of touch with mainstream society.
That's why they continue to use it in an insulting manner, and why Maddow makes that stupid face every time she says it.
As to the offensive part, the Maddow and company smirk is probably based on thinking that the "teabaggers" are admitting to a gay sex act
Umm, I thought hetero women could and did teabag, if they are particularly ... likeable?
It ain't just a gay thing.
Personally, the Red vs. Blue reference (picture) in the article is how I'd always originally heard of teabagging, not as a "sexual" act, per se, but rather as the kind of insult one plays on drunk compatriots at frat parties.
Also, I submit, Pure Pwnage.
Perhaps more specifically, I submit Pure Pwnage, S2E3: T-Bag
I've assumed that when leftists use the term "teabagging" to describe tea partyiers they did so because they find it funny while reminding them why they only wish they could engage ni some hot and heavy teabagging. after all leftists are notoriously for psychological projection when it comes to their opponents.
It has been a fun ride...i mean Gwen Iffil said "Teabag". Can't get better then that.
but rather as the kind of insult one plays on drunk compatriots at frat parties.
My understanding of it blossomed from playing a mutliplayer version of castle wolfenstein and it is an insult you do to the corpse of another player's avatar after you kill them.
Since then I have seen this in various other multiplayer games.
My understanding of it blossomed from playing a mutliplayer version of castle wolfenstein and it is an insult you do to the corpse of another player's avatar after you kill them.
I should note that to t-bag someone is a display of dominance. Not only to humiliate the player you just killed but to show you are so good at this game that you can take the risk of repeatedly sitting on your opponent's face and expose yourself to attack from other players.
Here are some examples of video game t-bagging
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ3xn0P2xMg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYvtymo68ds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRuwylnmyjg&feature=related
You should yell more, teabaggee.
Josh - I was referencing video game t-bagging... go watch Pure Pwnage 😉
I was referencing video game t-bagging... go watch Pure Pwnage 😉
Ummm no you didn't, you wrote "but rather as the kind of insult one plays on drunk compatriots at frat parties." and Pure Pwnage is unwatchable and unfunny and explains absolutely nothing about t-baging.
Do you work for them or something?
Uh, sean has been referencing games all along. Starting with RvB or halo reference to CW pvp. First time I remember t-bagging people was EQ late 99 when zeks went live.
Oh god the nerd got out.
Dear Videogame Nerds:
You did not invent the practice of dipping one's balls in a person's mouth.
Thanks in advance for shutting up,
The Rest of Us
"Ummm no you didn't"
Umm... Yes I did. Go actually visit the damn links I posted.
I also note that the behavior is an insulting fratboy gag, not necessarily as a sexual thing. Fratboy gag + video game = EXACTLY what I was saying.
No one claimed the invention, the popularity in pop culture on the other hand is due almost solely to video games, and PvP based MMOs.
The idea of any sexual practice being popularized by gamers is plausible only to gamers.
Jim... The *point* I made was that while it might be sexually appealing to a minute fraction of the human population, the main use I'd ever heard of it in relation to was as an insult...
Tell us more, gamer.
The idea of any sexual practice being popularized by gamers is plausible only to gamers.
Not really. But if you think so it's okay.
Memes are generated faster than ever with the internet, and the meme of teabagging took hold primarily through gaming. Just like there were lolcats in early history, the concept reached an entirely new height in recent years. Of course you can always play the, "THEY DID IT FIRST." card. But I'm hoping we can avoid that level of silliness.
PS. The condescension toward gaming and those who play is a little silly as well, but heh nerds have been ridiculed for a while. At least we don't have to carry around funny looking dice now.
(I'm not a gamer actually, Jim. My micro is terrible.)
using PS in a post is so arrogant.
I feel like such a douche.
Is it? Well gosh.
Yes, I'm sure that's how Anderson Cooper found out about it.
Have you asked him? Until then your assumption really doesn't carry much weight.
I'll take the view that there are at least 10 million people estimated to be playing or have played just one MMO where this practice of virtual teabagging has been common. Just one MMO of many. Of course, it could always be blamed on the /b tards. They can be blamed for everything.
I like how you picked the gay guy to make the point. That wasn't convenient or anything. The sexual connotation has always been present, after all it is a sexual act. But up until this summer if you googled teabagging you got page after page of gaming references with a smattering of college humor style pranks. I guess the gay guys didn't talk about it much back then.
I'll credit the meme to gaming. Now to figure out who to pin lolcats on.
"Can you prove people DIDN'T find out about ballsack-dipping through videogames?" You should probably try to be more indignant.
I like how you picked the gay guy to make the point. That wasn't convenient or anything.
Considering he's the one who went on his newscast with it, yeah. But he probably got it from Halo.
You can match that 10 million plus number to most studies putting gamers as a percentage of the US population from 50% to 65%. Some countries like South Korea are higher.
I can bring more to the table than Anderson Cooper is gay and probably doesn't play video games. You know, like anecdotal evidence such as Google hits, percentages of gamers, numbers of people playing games.
I could be, but what's the point. All you bring to the table is some weak connection between a gay reporter and relatively snide comments.
I'm pretty sure more than one blog picked up on the connection before MSNBC. I think Olberman beat Cooper to the punch as well.
For the record I didn't say Cooper got the slang from gaming. I even acknowledge that he might not have. So can we just let that strawman stay out in the field?
The meme was created or pushed into pop culture through gaming, and now the tea parties. I won't dispute the current push is greater in scope than the former. But the meme existed in mass prior to its current form.
You seem to be awfully anti-gamer. Did you get pwned like a noob and teabaged in Halo or another MMO?
You seem to be awfully touchy, gamer.
I'm only touchy when teabagging newbs.
And I haven't actually played anything in years.
Try girls.
Why? Maybe I like bagging noobs. Who says girls can't be noobs? Does it matter if noobs are male or female? Do I detect a hint of homophobia, or is it just an assumption that gamers are all fat guys living in their mom's basement who can't get girls.
Either way, and to quote another meme.
Epic Fail.
and
/teabag
congratulations. You may be the first person to get pwned and teabagged in the Reason comment section.
You're definitely the first person to make such an assertion as if you've got something to be proud about.
I'm always proud when I teabag someone. After all it is seen as as sign of dominance.
At least it was more of a gaming oriented teabagging and not a more Anderson Cooper oriented teabagging. I assume you prefer the former based on your "try girls" comment.
You missed your saving roll by that much.
So you just babble, is that the idea?
Kind of, except it's babble with more teabagging. Well, there's also more content than shitty analogies and strawmen, but that really isn't too important.
Your responses are getting more and more non sequitur in nature. Are you trolling me?
When do you start?
Soon.
Jim... The *point* I made was that while it might be sexually appealing to a minute fraction of the human population, the main use I'd ever heard of it in relation to was as an insult...
How many men have you actually talked to who don't like getting their balls sucked? I have tons of males friends and I can't imagine one of them saying 'having my balls sucked is gross!! icky, icky coodies!'
I wouldn't project whatever prudish issues you have onto other people.
Well, no hurry.
I don't think that was necessarily what he was getting at. I'm seeing a different context there than prude.
For the record I haven't asked any of my male friends if they like having their nuts sucked. I just can't come up with a good segue into the conversation.
Just look up and smile.
Why would I hurry? I already pwned and and bagged you. Hurrying would be like running to the car after winning a marathon. Remember the silly Cooper analogy and strawman you threw out.
How would I smile with nuts in my mouth? Again with the homophobia. Maybe I like nuts in my mouth? Is that a bad thing?
You aren't very good at this. Dare I say you suck at it.
You'll get the hang of it.
So you keep insisting.
So now the female protesters can start calling themselves rollmoppers.
So now the female protesters can start calling themselves rollmoppers.
Not I but I doth protest too little.
I had a similar reaction when I heard a commentator refer to the "fisting" of the President and First Lady. Turns out they were just fist-bumping.
Don't journalists watch the same pornography we do?