Ron Paul Interviewed by Time: Video
Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) sits down with Time for a six-minute Q&A video that covers topics ranging from auditing the Fed ("You could call the Federal Reserve a conspiracy") to decriminalizing pot ("Why criminalize marijuana?" he responds) to media bias to his part in the Bruno movie ("No one likes to be tricked") to the wrongness of the income tax ("If you concede the principle of the income tax, you concede the government owns all your income") to Obama's Iraq and Afghanistan ("every bit as bad as the last administration") and much more.
Watch the full interview:
Hat tip: Walter Riley.
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No point it watching it now, what with all the spoilers.
Wow, that dude is a complete and total egg head!
RT
http://www.real-privacy.net.tc
You had your chance America.
Now all you can do is hope for change.
One of his better interviews.
I thought Ron Paul was a RACIST (the word deserves the Caps, italics and bold) who all respectable people should hate for not worshiping at the alter of Martin Luther King.
And he actually got mad when Bruno hit on him. Paul even called him a queer, when a true libertarian would've said "I'm straight but not narrow" and used the story to illustrate how progressive he is.
Shut the fuck up, Dick Hoste.
Honestly on the Bruno thing, he's an old man who has some old man flaws. It does not affect the validity of his economic thought.
Honestly on the Bruno thing, he's an old man who has some old man flaws. It does not affect the validity of his economic thought.
Yes, everybody knows that when young men get hit on in a hotel room by another guy they like it.
Warty,
How's hating yourself going for you?
Shut the fuck up, Dick Hoste.
"If you concede the principle of the income tax, you concede the government owns all your income"
FTW!
Stop hating yourself, Xeones.
I wish that he talked more about those New Hampshire ads that show white people going into buildings and talking about how glad they were to google Ron Paul.
That's racism, straight up.
"If you concede the principle of the income tax, you concede the government owns all n% of your your income after taxes"
Fixed for...um, accuracy.
Wanting to audit the federal reserve is obviously racist.
But not for grammar. Obviously.
Wanting to audit the Fed is a good idea, and one that has some cross aisle support if I'm not mistaken.
Jaybird | September 18, 2009, 10:33am | #
I wish that he talked more about those New Hampshire ads that show white people going into buildings and talking about how glad they were to google Ron Paul.
Did he mention them at all? I may have to watch when I get home. Those ads are near the top of my list of how he misspent my money and fucked his campaign. I've not heard him speak to how anyone ever thought they were a good idea.
How about Peter Schiff entering the Conn. Senate race?
Could you imagine a Senator? From Conneticut?!! This guy's got to be elected!
one that has some cross aisle support if I'm not mistaken.
Considering cross-aisle controls both houses, apparently not.
Or, at least, not enough.
Or, at least, not in the leadership. For example, on the other side, if you switch leadership positions of Bunning and McConnell, TARP doesnt pass.
If Pelosi supported auditing the Fed as strongly as Paul does, it would have already passed (the House).
Mike,
Dont forget Linda McMahon is in the Conn senate race. I assume on the GOP side.
Not sure of her politics, other than pro-steroid.
Stop hating yourself, Xeones.
I will hate you, for a relatively meagre honorarium.
I thought that was one of RP's best interviews. I have a suspicion that he knew the questions ahead of time and so was able to get his thought in order a little more than usual.
I was actually touched by his explanation of the Bruno thing. Which is, it's better to have a surplus of trust, such that you may get tricked from time to time, than to have not enough trust where everyone around you becomes a demon in disguise.
lmnop,
No, RP was right. The principle of the income tax gives full ownership to DC, they then just allow you to keep a portion of it. But, the pinciple has no bounds (As the 94% bracket that once existed makes clear).
I wish Warty and Xeones would stop hating each other and themselves.
"How about Peter Schiff entering the Conn. Senate race?"
Just started his new book this morning.
I will despise Dick Hoste, gratis.
Sorry, Ele, but robc has the right of it.
A mugger is no less a mugger if he deigns to leave you cab fare home.
Really, i like myself ok. I hate Warty, though.
I hate Warty, though.
RACIST
LNMOP,
Set n = 100
Shut the fuck up, anonymity bot.
RACIST
You got me. Fortunately, Wartism is truly the last socially acceptable prejudice.
And for good reason, i might add.
Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde . . .
Every time I see Ron Paul sit down in a chair and have conservation with someone I want him to be in charge of everything.
But the guy that kept running one hideous campaign ad and after another in 2008 was an embarassement.
So which is the real Ron Paul?
Was just looking thru historical tax rates. The 1913 tax brackets, even without adjusting for inflation, would be awesome today:
1% tax on 0-$20k
2% on 20k-50k
3% on 50k-75k
4% on 75k-100k
5% on 100k-250k
6% on 250k-500k
7% on 500k+
Maybe we can have a throwback tax rate year like sports teams do throwback uniforms.
kinnath,
Why should a guy who knows how to run things also know how to campaign? Two separate skill sets, IMO.
The 1913 tax brackets, even without adjusting for inflation, would be awesome today:
My father tells me the original ammendment that authorized the income tax was going to have an upper limit; but it was removed because people felt it would encourage the government to raise the tax rate up to the limit.
Oops
Every time I see Ron Paul sit down in a chair and have conservation with someone I want him to be in charge of everything.
But the guy that kept running one hideous campaign ad and after another in 2008 was an embarassement.
So he's the complete opposite of Dear Leader.
kinnath, The Greatest Campaigner Evar!!! is our president. Poor campaigning does not mean Ron Paul would suck as president just as great campaigning does not make Obama good at being president, or ever right about anything, for that matter.
Xeones,
How can you hate someone so pretty and delicate?
Excuse me but what the fuck would auditing the Fed accomplish? So what if we found accounting irregularities or outright fraud? It isn't like anyone would fucking do anything. If a Representative gets admonished for telling the fucking truth about BO, you really think anything would get done about the fed?
You'd be looking at a 1% tax on the first $400k or so of income. Nice.
Tax history chart
An upper limit of 1% would have been nice.
What's interesting is that the top marginal rate bracket jumped from 7% to 77% in three years.
Why should a guy who knows how to run things also know how to campaign? Two separate skill sets, IMO.
It comes down to who Ron Paul hired to run his campaign.
It wasn't the production values of the campaign ads that were a failure; it was the content. I could never reconcile Ron Paul's conversations with Ron Paul's campaing message.
Excuse me but what the fuck would auditing the Fed accomplish?
You're kidding right? Even one questionable secret deal with the Swiss and their goose is cooked.
It isn't like anyone would fucking do anything.
Why the fuck does anyone do anything at all in DC? Usually things happen when the media din is too loud because of something too big to ignore. Like secret overseas deals and what have you.
The 1913 tax brackets, even without adjusting for inflation, would be awesome today:
But we'd have a home mortgage interest deduction, right?
If the Fed is audited and it turns out they are screwing us, then maybe the general public will start to listen to the guy who wrote the bill. How is that bad for us?
kinnath, The Greatest Campaigner Evar!!! is our president. Poor campaigning does not mean Ron Paul would suck as president just as great campaigning does not make Obama good at being president, or ever right about anything, for that matter.
Obama is an empty suit. Looks great, no content.
Ron Paul's problem was the Jekyll/Hyde thing he had going -- he had two dramatically different types of content that were presented to the public.
I was precinct captain for Ron Paul during the Iowas Caucauses, and I have no regrets about that. But remembering the campaign ads still makes me cringe.
Sweet'n'Low, it's surprisingly easy.
Why should a guy who knows how to run things also know how to campaign? Two separate skill sets, IMO.
HEY!
Mr. hoste, just this morning I heard RP praise Martin Luther King for his non-violent tactics.
He urged us, to use Rand's words, to withdraw the sanction of the victim.
His campaign was run by mostly amateurs. The campaign exceeded well beyond anyone's expectations, and took off so fast, that it was difficult to recruit the pros, so RP had to recruit from the minor leaguers who weren't worried about their future reputation for having worked with a certain loser.
. . . so RP had to recruit from the minor leaguers who weren't worried about their future reputation for having worked with a certain loser.
Doesn't matter. RP should have controlled his message. I would expect amateurs to make shitting ads that were sort of on message, not an entirely differnt message.
"And he actually got mad when Bruno hit on him. Paul even called him a queer, when a true libertarian would've said "I'm straight but not narrow" and used the story to illustrate how progressive he is."
Hey dipshit, queer is the preferred self-identifier of young gays now. It makes the older gays a bit uncomfortable, but the kids have reclaimed it.
Kiss kiss!
YFQ
Sweet'n'Low, it's surprisingly easy.
All it takes is dedication and focus.
Or, in my case, an overabundance of hatred such that anything in range can be an appropriate target.
I took a shit on Richard Hoste's bed once.
God I love cocks!
There are those who say, "Why should a guy who knows how to run things also know how to campaign? Two separate skill sets, IMO."
I couldn't agree more.
PS "Dick" "Host" Tee hee!
P Brooks,
I would have to look up 1913 specifically, but in many of the early years ALL interest was deductible.
The home mortgage interest deduction wasnt a special interest add-on, it was what was a special interest fight to keep when the rest of the interest was taken away as a deductiion. If the CC industry had been bigger, Im sure more of it would have survived.
I would have to look up 1913 specifically, but in many of the early years ALL interest was deductible.
Wasn't credit card interest deductible until Reagan?
I thought the original income tax was essentially a flat tax, and that the exclusions and deductions were a result of the increase in the tax rate; but I was probably wrong.
1913 tax form
#2 on the deductions was "All interest paid within year on personal indebtedness of taxpayer".
#4 on deductions includes losses due to shipwreck.
The deductions (other than the personal deduction) did not apply to the "normal" tax, which was the first 1%.
Dividends were taxed at the normal tax rate, but then were part of the deductions towards the "super" tax (their term, not mine). Capital gains, it appears, were regular income while dividends werent.
Assuming Im reading tax instructions correctly. Form 1040 was only 4 pages in 1913, but that doesnt mean it is completely easy to understand.
Way to incentivize shipwrecks, Congress.
The hostile tone of "discussion" on this page is discouraging... and not fitting the name of the site and its slogan.
BTW, Nick: I very much enjoyed your interview with Judge Napolitano on Freedom Watch this week.
Wow, I sugarfreed that link bad.
Trying again 1913 Tax Form
Drink!
I just finished teaching for the week, setting up for a class next week, so I can join in the drinking festivities in about 20 minutes.
The hostile tone of "discussion" on this page is discouraging... and not fitting the name of the site and its slogan.
That's how we roll around here. It's like a mosh pit, and Lonewacko, Dick Hoste, and Underzog are like the high school football player meatheads who aim elbows at people's faces. Fuck them.
I am, of course, just giving myself an excuse to post some metal.
Lol! Thank you for the enlightenment.
losses due to shipwreck.
Do German torpedoes fall into the category of "shipwreck"?
an excuse to post some metal.
Sigh. I miss the prog threads.
Sigh. I miss the prog threads.
Post up a link, then. Emulate Warty.
Wait, did I really just offer that as advice?
It's worth noting that in 1913 a basic exemption of $3000 meant that most people that worked for wages paid no income tax.
According to here, anyway.
$3000 in 1913 = $65,404.24 in 2009.
Rate of inflation change since 1913 = 2080.1%
But that's old news to Hit and Runners, isn't it.
Thanks for the data on income taxes ROBC and Joe M. I'd liek to add another link though.
I get a little peeved that when many people discuss tax history, they focus almost exclusively on income tax.
However, payroll taxes have grown from less than 9% of the government revenues to almost 40% in the last 40 years. Payroll taxes steal almost as much from the people as income taxes and the growth rates are far greater.
Federal Revenue History
Does anyone else get annoyed at Republicans who claim that "rich people pay all the taxes" while pretending that payroll taxes don't even exist?
When a MSM liberal is arguing agaisnt he republicans you can be sure they will never mention payroll taxes in his rebuttal, because hey....the MSM liberals love payroll taxes!
IMO the 10% of Democrats who have legitimately high IQ's are far more ready to turn libertarian when we rail against the Democrat and Republican hypocrisy related to payroll taxes, than when we focus exclusively on income taxes.
Middle class republicans (40-70k/yr)pay as much or more of their salaries to payroll taxes as they do to income taxes. This is a lot of votes! why ignore that?
We always here about the great dangers of a rising wealth disparity? isn't this classic MSM complaint an easy way of entering into a discussion about eliminating payroll taxes?
When we rail against income taxes then we are easily written off/smeared as republicans(which everyone knows are hippocrites). We sidestep that mindless rebuttal by focussing on Democrats actively trying to f*** the working poor and minorities with their payroll taxes(especially the way it penalizes the coal miners and inner city black men dying in their 40's, 50's and 60's...while benefitting the healthy rich white people who live to be 70, 80 or 90.)
Payroll tax history
See the upper cap rose $7,800 to $106,800 over the last 40 years a factor of 13.6. While at teh same timet he tax raate rose from 9.6% to 15.3%...this is massive growth! This is what made a big impression on me from the first non-blackmarket jobs I had as a 18 year old.
Wanting to audit the Fed is a good idea, and one that has some cross aisle support if I'm not mistaken.
Not wanting to audit the fed seems pathalogically insane to me. To actually believe that we have a government agency with that much power over the economy that shouldn't be scrutinized-- even on occasion-- shows how far from our original vision we've strayed.
You can't use that word! That's our word for you!
An unjustly criticized song from a justly panned album:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NO8h_uTkdU&feature=related
Wasn't credit card interest deductible until Reagan?
From the time of the Founding, I think. 😉