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Policy

What Was Obama's Biggest Health Reform Lie?

Peter Suderman | 9.17.2009 9:03 PM

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Arnold Kling investigates.

Previously, Reason editor-in-chief Matt Welch argued that Obama's lies matter, too. 

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  1. $   16 years ago

    I went to the transcript looking for a line to make a joke about and was shocked to find this:

    AUDIENCE MEMBER: You lie! (Boos.)

    Racist.

  2. disgruntled employee   16 years ago

    Dear Reason,

    please discontinue spamming my facepage.

    sincerely,
    Loyal Reader.

  3. TrickyVic   16 years ago

    Sadly, lies only matter to the opposite team.

  4. JW   16 years ago

    What Was Obama's Biggest Health Reform Lie?

    Everything after "I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

  5. Hugh Akston   16 years ago

    I haven't even read the article yet, but I'm willing to bet that this Arnold Kling is a racist.

  6. SusanM   16 years ago

    Obama lied, freedom died

  7. Gilbert Martin   16 years ago

    "What Was Obama's Biggest Health Reform Lie?"

    The same lie that every other liberal tells when they claim that their motivation for advocacy of a government power grab and forced redistribution (i.e. theft) of wealth is "compassion" or "concern" for others.

    Without exception every single one who says that is a flat out liar period.

    It is all about a desire to exert control over other people and grab control of property that they have no legitimate claim on whatsoever.

  8. 24AheadDotCom   16 years ago

    Kling is pretty much the definition of a low-level tool, and it's hilarious how MattW wrote an article about BHO's speech without referencing JoeWilson. Apparently that only happened in our universe and not the one inhabited by the FreeStateAndUniverseProject.

  9. Some Chick from OH   16 years ago

    What Was Obama's Biggest Health Reform Lie?

    Everything after "I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

    FTFY

  10. Some Guy   16 years ago

    Without question, you could probably break down "This will save us money in the long term" into 3-4 separate lies and they would still trump all the others.

    The greatest irony is that the part about illegal immigrants not getting subsidies was one of the few truthful statements in the speech.

  11. Hugh Akston   16 years ago

    Shut the fuck up, LoneWhacko.

  12. DU poster   16 years ago

    What a racist question!

  13. anonymous   16 years ago

    "The greatest irony is that the part about illegal immigrants not getting subsidies was one of the few truthful statements in the speech."

    It was "true".

    Certainly, that language was in the bill, but there's a good chance that a court would overturn it. Conservatives would be justified in suggesting that placing it there, gambling that it would be excised later by courts (rather than being used to strike the entire law, of course), was a tactical move from the left rather than an actual attempt to keep illegal immigrants from receiving government subsidies.

  14. Episiarch   16 years ago

    "You want me to take your wife upstairs and show her what it feels like to be deep inside a big house?!?"

  15. ed   16 years ago

    We Americans were the first humans to walk on the moon and, apparently, the last to discover that politicians lie.

  16. Attorney   16 years ago

    Arnold Kling is The Man!*

    *In a good way.

  17. Johnny Longtorso   16 years ago


    Certainly, that language was in the bill, but there's a good chance that a court would overturn it. Conservatives would be justified in suggesting that placing it there, gambling that it would be excised later by courts (rather than being used to strike the entire law, of course), was a tactical move from the left rather than an actual attempt to keep illegal immigrants from receiving government subsidies.

    Or just leave out an enforcement mechanism and count on those implementing the law, the permanent bureaucracy, to make sure that portion remains unenforced.

    Has anyone ever explained how opposition to illegals getting govt funded treatment is racist, Obama clearly opposes illegals getting treated (its in the bill, after all), but those two statements together does NOT make Obama a racist?

    Its almost like Obama gets a pass because they know he's lying.

  18. Joe   16 years ago

    We are not allowed to say that our dear leader lies, that would be racist. The chosen one doesn't lie.

  19. Scared Stiff   16 years ago

    "Certainly, that language was in the bill, but there's a good chance that a court would overturn it. Conservatives would be justified in suggesting that placing it there, gambling that it would be excised later by courts (rather than being used to strike the entire law, of course), was a tactical move from the left rather than an actual attempt to keep illegal immigrants from receiving government subsidies."

    I'm sorry dude, but you are seriously reaching, here.

  20. Johnny Longtorso   16 years ago

    We are not allowed to say that our dear leader lies, that would be racist. The chosen one doesn't lie.

    When a leader speaks, the reflection lies.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ5SVDYBNrY

  21. PR   16 years ago

    a shorter list would be what he told the truth about.

  22. Gilbert Martin   16 years ago

    "Or just leave out an enforcement mechanism and count on those implementing the law, the permanent bureaucracy, to make sure that portion remains unenforced."

    Which is exactly what is goind on with Medicaid right now. In some cases, the bureaucrats are actively and willfully subverting the law to give it to them.

  23. Johnny Longtorso   16 years ago

    Which is exactly what is goind on with Medicaid right now. In some cases, the bureaucrats are actively and willfully subverting the law to give it to them.

    Gilbert demonstrates his racism for the class right here. Straight up. 🙂

  24. P Brooks   16 years ago

    Kling is pretty much the definition of a low-level tool

    Yet, strangely, when I read something by Kling, I assume he knows what he's talking about. The same is not true of you.

    STFU, LoneWanko.

  25. Jimbo   16 years ago

    I don't think that it is such a reach for someone to suggest that language was inserted into a bill for political expediency, while expecting the courts to overturn it after passage.

    My hazy memory of W's signing of the McCain-Feingold bill was that he did so because he didn't want to have the big fight his veto would have caused.

    At the time everyone expected it to be struck down by the Supreme Court because everyone thought it was a no-brainer violation of the 1st amendment. Unfortunately it didn't work out that way and we are stuck with that piece of crap.

  26. creech   16 years ago

    Again, we are unjustly calling Obamessiah a liar. Take the oath to support the Constitution. It says, and he said, "to the best of my ability..." If you have little or no ability to support the Constitution, then he didn't lie did he?

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