How TV Shows Jump the Shark
Now that GM is saved for another six weeks or so, take a government-backed, pre-lunch coffee break and think about the TV for a few.
Via the wunnerful Arts & Letters Daily comes this National Post essay on how TV shows inevitably hit the crapper like some three-camera Spenglerian civilization:
Most episodic shows tell two stories simultaneously. One deals with fictional characters. The other is the narrative's slow evolution under the pressure of desperate producers and harried writers.
The second story demonstrates that the history of a TV series, like the history of a nation or an art movement, falls into four periods—primitive, classic, baroque and decadent….
The decadent era begins when writers lose interest in their themes and try to maintain audiences by concocting steadily more outlandish storylines…. Happy Days did in 1977 when Fonzie rode water skis over a Seaworld shark, making "jump the shark" a term for a program reduced to terminal silliness. (In 1997, a website, jumptheshark.com, began chronicling self-destructive TV shows.)
Not all shows go decadent (or at least not in a bad way). The last few years of Cheers, say, or Taxi, or the last half-dozen episodes of Get a Life!, etc. all suggest that shows can get decadent, surreal, and increasingly bizarre and be better than ever (at least to longtime watchers). I'd throw Seinfeld into the mix as a show that got more outlandish and better over its run right up to the last, generally rancid final episode. Now there's a challenge: Other than Newhart (the sitcom starring Bob as a Vermont innkeeper) has any final episode of any series ever ever been worth a damn?
TV shows, like the rest of us, die as we live, alone.
Bonus links: The first is to Fonzie jumping the garbage cans on Happy Days (embedding has been disabled!) early on in Happy Days' run. The second is to him literally jumping the shark in a later show, which even HD auteur Garry Marshall has acknowledged as godawful. The real takeaway? Happy Days pretty much always sucked, given that it was never really much more than a rip-off of American Graffiti drained of pathos, wit, and humor. Which is to say, it was a lot like George Lucas' previous movie, THX 1138, with Robert Duvall in the Ralph Malph role.
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The last moment of the last episode of The Bob Newhart Show (which, for its later seasons was a very extended dream sequence) is the best finale ever. In fact, it's the best possible finale ever.
Now there's a challenge: Other than Newhart (the sitcom starring Bob as a Vermont innkeeper) has any final episode of any series ever ever been worth a damn?
Barny Miller
If Nick Gillespie ever goes water skiing I imagine it would look like this.
I think American Office has done a good job of changing drastically without jumping the shark creatively. Some of the characters are changing dramatically, with Michael being humanized while Dwight hardens (perhaps into a workplace shooter, but they're not edgy enough to do it).
Also, they've gotten topical without being preachy. I've seen them cover all sorts of heavy issues without going over into after-school special territory.
Then again, I love Starship and hate Jefferson Airplane, so maybe I'm not the best guy to ask...
You can't fault sitcoms for ending terribly, it's in their DNA. Similarly, soap operas like LOST and HEROES can't have nice endings either. They are designed to keep going until the life has been sucked out of them.
The only shows that I expect good endings are the shows where the ending is known from the first episode. I've only ever seen this done well in a few animes and other eclectic shit.
My recommendations:
Berserk
a good story told well, apparently it's a chunk of a way-too-long manga. It's a little weird (in that queer Japanafag way) Still good.
Perfect Hair Forever
I think it is just six episodes. This show delicately handles complicated plot devices with enthusiasm and grace. However, this show is for true scholars only.
The last episode of Twin Peaks was worth a damn, if you regard it as a kind of meta-shark-jump.
Lynch had returned from vacation to find his show all fucked up, in the usual decadent way, and already canceled, so he seems to have decided to just smash it and throw the pieces around.
It wasn't good, but it was interesting.
The Firefly movie Serenity.
There were seven episodes of PHF, phalkor. The last one was a lame coda tacked on about a year after the run ended. Miss it if you can.
has any final episode of any series ever ever been worth a damn?
Battlestar Galactica.
Hey, anybody else want to become cavemen?
While wildly uneven during its run, Alias did a fine finale. The final scenes with Sloane and Jack Bristow were a downright "Fuck, Yeah!" moment.
to be fair; I watched it only once while heavily medicated. The version I remember is way better than reality.
Now I can't think of a single Williams Street cartoon that isn't downright awful to the sober mind. Rats.
Little House on the Prarie. I'm serious! They were pissed at being cancelled, so Michael Landon blows up the town. How awesome is that?
I have to agree, the speed that shows deteriorate into hella stupid these days, is indeed disturbing.
Mad Men managed to get better in season two. Still, it has enough "wait what?" moments to worry me.
Breaking Bad went flying over the shark with the season finale.
I liked the finale of Boston Legal.
Denny Crane and Alan Shore get gay married. The local chapter of the Gay and Lesbian League, fearing the union would fuel the belief that hetero couples would exploit same-sex marriage for tax breaks, tried to put an injunction on their marriage license, but the judge ruled that the government doesn't -- and shouldn't -- ask couples why they're marrying.
There is also a story line about Denny Crane going to the Supremes to get the OK to use an expirimental drug. The argument was whether one dying man's right to save himself was worth risking the pharmaceutical industry rushing unapproved and insufficiently-tested drugs to a market of 5 million desperate terminal patients, and those patients declining to participate in future clinical studies that could yield better alternatives because they wouldn't want to risk getting a placebo.
All in all a pretty good finale.
The rpoblem with series' finales is that very few live long enough to have one, or at least one that matters. Even if they do, it's as noted, after the life has been sucked out of the show and lives on more zombie than TV show (I'm looking at you M*A*S*H) or they rush to put one together as the new of cancellation comes down. (Or they get unceremoniously cut off as Farscape did.)
BSG's could have been better, more cohesive, but I really think the well ran dry on the show. Still, it was much better than most other SF shows, including ALL of the Star Treks.
Now I can't think of a single Williams Street cartoon that isn't downright awful to the sober mind. Rats.
Both The Venture Bros. and Robot Chicken are produced by Williams Street.
I have to agree, the speed that shows deteriorate into hella stupid these days, is indeed disturbing.
Seconded.
It seems like there is much more pressure these days to perform, and networks are quicker to cancel these days, so I think shows feel the need to do more and more to generate a buzz.
The other thing I think is that with so many shows on the air right now, and many of the same themes being used over and over and over (esp. in the Sitcom world) I think writers are trying too hard to get theirs to stand out and to be different/edgy rather than focusing on quality writing and characters.
Warty | June 2, 2009, 11:42am | #
has any final episode of any series ever ever been worth a damn?
Battlestar Galactica.
Hey, anybody else want to become cavemen?
OH FUCK NO!!
BSG's whole second half of the last season should never have been made.
And the final episode was the worst quality of episode to series average ratio of any show ever by several orders of magnitude.
It sucked sucked sucked.
Similarly, soap operas like LOST and HEROES can't have nice endings either. They are designed to keep going until the life has been sucked out of them.
Not true. Lost has a definite ending after season 6 last year.
ChicagoTom,
If we're including season finales, then House, M.D. hit one out of the park this year, too.
Dr. House's mental breakdown had been teased from the very beginning, and heavily so over the course of this last season. The contrast between his own lucidity regarding the interactions and conditions of other people with his fatal blind spot (himself) was handled beautifully, especially at the end when his trip to the insane asylum was juxtaposed with the wedding.
I don't watch much TV, but when I do, it's usually one of the two shows I mentioned. And that season finale would work as a series finale if need be, such a strong note did it strike.
Both The Venture Bros. and Robot Chicken are produced by Williams Street
Robot chicken doesn't count, as it is plotless. However, Venture Bros. is a good call. Thank you for saving me from regretting how I spent most of college.
I thought that Buffy ended well, even if the show was crippled during season 5 and rose from the dead to shamble on for two more seasons (oddly mirrored in the plot.) The series finale fit the overall thematic arc of the season finales, hit almost all the right notes and left the plot open-ended, but settled enough to stop at that point.
Uhhm, next year.
I like the last line of the last episode of Deadwood. I was going to say the final episode of Northern Exposure was pretty good too, but then I realized was I wasn't remembering the final episode of Northern Exposure; I was thinking of the one where Rob Morrow leaves. I don't remember anything about the actual final episode, other than that it included an Iris Dement song.
For an interesting critique of the National Post piece, go here.
The Fox show Millenium had possibly the greatest last episode ever, at the end of the second or third season (some kind of genengineered bird flu epidemic has broken loose, Our Hero doesn't have enough vaccine for his whole family, and the final frame is snowy static on a TV, with scratchy radio in the background begging for help).
Unfortunately, they kept making the show for another couple of years.
"has any final episode of any series ever ever been worth a damn?"
MASH
Death Note
Battlestar Galactica
and the best series end of all time goes to Son of the Beach, where some nutcase fires a missle and all of the main characters die. The End.
Now I can't think of a single Williams Street cartoon that isn't downright awful to the sober mind.
Aqua Teen is always great, whether fucked up or not. In fact, if you are really fucked up it becomes too difficult to follow.
It used to be that shows were milked for every drop of life they could get out of them. This resulted in things like the final season of Knight Rider with KITT having Super Pursuit mode; the show was already dead but they got one more idiotic season out of it with gimmicks. More recent shows, who are much more concerned with their legacy on DVD, have become better about pulling the plug before they get too stupid.
BSG's whole second half of the last season should never have been made.
I bet you think that Harlan Ellison should have gotten his way and made Dr. McCoy a drug addict in City on the Edge of Forever.
The 2nd half of BSG's final season were some of the better episodes of the series.
Now, you know what sucked? The Star Trek movie. It SUCKEDSUCKEDSUCKEDSUCKED.
Oh, I'm sorry, but no. Just no. I have watched all Star Trek series and BSG, and BSG is booooooring. I mean it...it just does not hold my interest.
The Fox show Millenium had possibly the greatest last episode ever, at the end of the second or third season...
You kept watching that? Ugh, I couldn't make it past the 2nd season.
The last Mary Tyler Moore show where everyone but Ted Knight gets fired was very good, almost as good as the last Newhart show.
Frazier is a unique example of a show that started out good, became great, then sucked, only to put it together for one last great year like some rock band finally kicking heroine and doing one last good record and tour.
Damn TAO, and here I thought you had some taste.
Adama vs. Picard. Discuss.
"Aqua Teen is always great, whether fucked up or not. In fact, if you are really fucked up it becomes too difficult to follow."
Aqua Teen like many of your adult cartoon, Simpsons, B&B, South Park, varies wildly from oh my God hysterical to unwatchable, often within the same episode.
"More recent shows, who are much more concerned with their legacy on DVD, have become better about pulling the plug before they get too stupid."
I think ER and Law and Order either put lie to that theory or are the exceptions that prove the rule. I am not sure which.
Sledge Hammer! blew up the city at the season one finale because they thought they were getting canceled, and it was great...and then they got surprise renewed and that screwed everything up.
The last Wonder Years where he went off to college was good. The only kid show I can think of that was smart enough to end when the actor grew up.
Avatar: The Last Airbender. One of the best TV shows ever made, IMHO. Three season run, the whole story was planned from the beginning, and they didn't try to keep it going just because it was going well. And Nickelodeon actually gave the creators a pretty free rein to tell the story they wanted, without any watering down. Plus, they had a good sense of humor about themselves. If you haven't seen the show and like TV, watch it now. I can't recommend it highly enough.
I like the last line of the last episode of Deadwood.
But that wasn't expected to be the last episode. They were expecting to do 4 more hours. Then the writers' strike hit.
I don't know where the last 4 hours were supposed to go, but Swearengen's place burned down in actuality, Sol Starr became mayor, and Bullock became cozy with Teddy Roosevelt. Who the fuck would want to see that?
Aqua Teen, in the later seasons, is not very good. The earlier seasons (1 & 2 - some of 3) are all classics.
JW - we at least are in agreement about the Star Trek movie. Bad fanfic (unnecessary "throwing the Trekkies a bone" + alternate universe + Spock "emnbracing" emotion = SUCK)
pretty much sums that one up.
Now: Will Riker v. that John McCain-looking MFer. Discuss.
No way, Warren. It was brilliant.
Hey, you know that stuff that didn't make any sense? Angels.
Brilliant.
You have to admire Happy Days. It was the father of so much kitchy 70s TV. The show was to bad 70s sitcoms what the Buffalo Springfield was to 70s country rock. Happy Days spawned, Mork and Mindy, Laverne and Shirly, and Joanie Loves Chatchie. Now that is a legacy.
John, ER is a soap opera--and I mean in a "my stories" kind of way--and L&O is an ultra-formulaic police procedural. Changing the cast is how they "change" the show, so you get "new" eras as new actors come in.
These things make money by churning out the exact same product endlessly. They will only get canceled if they actually do nuke the fridge by doing something actually different. As long as they stick to the formula, they will go on.
"has any final episode of any series ever ever been worth a damn?"
Battlestar Galactica
Babylon 5 (although it was one of only two episodes in the final season that didn't suck)
Cowboy Bebop
The Prisoner
Mystery Science Theater 3000
Actually, the final episode of Mary Tyler Moore always makes me cry, particularly if I've been drinking. Damn it, who can take a nothing day and make it all worthwhile? OK, maybe Angela Jolie, but after that you got nothing.
Hey, you know that stuff that didn't make any sense? Angels.
Brilliant.
Warty, why haven't they been nominated for some kind of award for that? It's just too much genius for people to handle, I think.
and the best series end of all time goes to Son of the Beach, where some nutcase fires a missle and all of the main characters die. The End.
That reminds me of another good final episode: The Young Ones, which concluded with all the main characters dying in a bush crash.
There's also The Prisoner, of course.
The main problem with Williams Street is that they take an idea suitable for a 25 second Robot Chicken snippet and try to make a series out of it.
with all the main characters dying in a bush crash
Kinky.
You have to admire Happy Days. It was the father of so much kitchy 70s TV. The show was to bad 70s sitcoms what the Buffalo Springfield was to 70s country rock. Happy Days spawned, Mork and Mindy, Laverne and Shirly, and Joanie Loves Chatchie. Now that is a legacy.
To do that, one would similarly have to admire the Surreal Life due to spawning numerous bad spinoff reality shows (featuring Flava Flav). Flavor of Love, Strange Love, I love New York, etc. Promiscuity is not worthy of respect.
Avatar: The Last Airbender.
Agreed: excellent ending and not a bad show at all. It is one of the very few shows I don't mind watching with the kids.
Now: Will Riker v. that John McCain-looking MFer. Discuss.
If Riker lost an eye, he'd wimper for mommy. In a fight, Tigh would grind his boot into were he just stabbed him with a rusty tent spike and then spit in his face. All the while Riker is screaming" "Beam me up, Geordi! Beam me up!"
Bus crash, dammit.
OK, really, how do you people sleep at night, actually defending the last episode of BSG? I'm totally mystified.
Captain Picard came back from being a Borg. Adama went into an old-man coma.
Jesse, shut up, or I'll tell everybody here that you have an iron-on cartoon worm on the back of your Y-fronts that says "Girl Bait".
I judge final episodes by whether or not they make me cry.
Cheers, The Wonder Years and The Mary Tyler Moore Show all meet the criteria.
The writers said they were angels as far back as season 1. It's not their fault if you didn't believe them.
Aqua Teen is always great, whether fucked up or not. In fact, if you are really fucked up it becomes too difficult to follow.
The last to Seasons of ATHF have been especially odd -- even by ATHF standards. Not saying they are bad -- but really odd.
Also, Moral Orel had a very very dark final season/series finale.
I can't believe we're having a Riker vs. Tigh argument. Really?
Captain Picard came back from being a Borg. Adama went into an old-man coma.
Only after he and Data had that one lust-filled night after a bottle of Romulan Ale and a hacked emotion chip.
And, Adama would never quote Shakespeare. Not at least without getting his drink on and first flushing Picard out an airlock.
How about the last episode of Night Court where aliens from Jupiter recruit Bull to come with them because they need someone who can reach stuff on the high shelves?
John
Happy Days also spawned that technocolor hurl and enormous diarretic dump I found in my toilet after it ended. So not funny, not clever, not entertaining on any level. I couldn't watch more that 1.5 minutes without becoming ill (and not a little pshycotic)
SugarFree,
The last season of Buffy was awful. Better than season 5, but, really, that isnt saying much (although Season 5 has one great episode). Im still pissed that they didnt follow my story line idea in season 7 - I wanted Faith to die and have an episode where potential after potential becomes a slayer and then gets whacked. Go thru 4 or 5 in a single fight.
Not really. There's nothing to argue. A one-eyed Tigh can not only beat the crap out of Riker, he can beat up Riker and Riker's transporter-accident clone at the same time.
Funny for those that have watched Airbender. (It's in the "skepticism" section.)
The Shield had a perfect ending. The Office UK too.
Not only was the BSG finale bad, the whole 4th Season was lame.
"To do that, one would similarly have to admire the Surreal Life due to spawning numerous bad spinoff reality shows (featuring Flava Flav). Flavor of Love, Strange Love, I love New York, etc. Promiscuity is not worthy of respect."
I don't see why you can't respect a job well done, even if the job is being a whore.
Also for you consideration:
St. Elsehwhere: it's all the kid's imagination
Quantum Leap Sam meets God (the Bartender)
Warty, why haven't they been nominated for some kind of award for that? It's just too much genius for people to handle, I think.
The Episiarch Memorial Award for pointless mindfucking. All proceeds from the awards show go to an autoerotic asphyxiation awareness charity.
The Black Adder where everyone goes over the top and dies was a good if very downer ending to a show.
"St. Elsehwhere: it's all the kid's imagination"
That is a totally forgotten show. Much better than ER ever was for my money.
I can't believe we're having a Riker vs. Tigh argument. Really?
It's more bar fight porn.
Interesting to look at the arc of dramatic radio shows v. TV. In radio, it was not uncommon for a show to last 15-20 years with the characters completely unchanged throughout. Because you didn't see the characters getting order, it was easier for the audience to accept that Archie was always a teenager or that Gildersleeve never got married or that Phil Harris' kids were always in grade school. Having a camera around ruins that.
Aging actors can often have the effect of pushing the writers out of their comfort zones, which leads to the problem referenced of forced, outlandish plotting.
Also, the last episode of Justice League rocked.
Sean Dougherty
SeanDD@optonline.net
The Shield had a perfect ending.
I still have to watch Season 7 on DVD, but I assumed it would. It had the perfect beginning, why not a perfect ending?
If I am recalling correctly, didn't SCTV have a completely fucked up and surreal finale? Or was that the finale before the last season with the reduced cast?
Other than Newhart (the sitcom starring Bob as a Vermont innkeeper) has any final episode of any series ever ever been worth a damn?
I agree with MTM and Barney Miller.
Everybody overlooked The Fugitive.
All the Star Trek finales were pathetically weak.
TNG's series finales was quite the snooze fest-another episode with Q once again 'testing' the crew, time travel and characters with 'old' makeup on. Whoopty-doo.
DS9 had the everyone surviving prom, graduating high school and moving to different colleges and Sisko was now an angel/prophet whatever.. Weak, but not TNG weak.
Voyager couldn't resist the whole time traveler saves the day deus ex machina style. At least some Borg cubes got blown up and Q, er...the prophets...er the Borg Queen was there to make things trivially harder then they had to be.
TV shows with series finales have gone down the path to suckage (TNG Season 7 was probably the worst) or they've written themselves into a corner where the viewers would be disappointed in essentially character regression if they simply went back to 'daily life' after winning the big game (DS9 war, etc.)
MASH had to end eventually as a series about a war probably shouldn't last 4 times longer then the actual war. Then again, there were only so many medical discoveries 50s doctors could make in an army tent hospital and only so many moral lessons that could be delivered by moonshine swilling, skirt chasing surgeons and clerks who were still pathetically naive after 3 years of witnessing 'meatball surgery', body stacking, and various other behaviors at a military hospital not too far from the fighting.
If the show has a series finale, it probably sucked-both the show leading up to the end as well as the finale that finished it off.
But because John McCain is really a 2000 year old toaster! or something!
Six Feet Under
Other than Newhart (the sitcom starring Bob as a Vermont innkeeper) has any final episode of any series ever ever been worth a damn?
Since you didn't include the qualifier "prime time", I would suggest "Rhyme and Reason" (one of ABC's "Match Game"-inspired daytime shows from 1975); during the course of the finale, some of the guest celebs essentially destroyed the set.
And, of course, you can't forget the finale of the '78-80 version of "High Rollers"--because of Alex Trebek's unusual behavior throughout (part 1; part 2; part 3; part 4).
"MASH had to end eventually as a series about a war probably shouldn't last 4 times longer then the actual war. Then again, there were only so many medical discoveries 50s doctors could make in an army tent hospital and only so many moral lessons that could be delivered by moonshine swilling, skirt chasing surgeons and clerks who were still pathetically naive after 3 years of witnessing 'meatball surgery', body stacking, and various other behaviors at a military hospital not too far from the fighting."
It should have ended quietly four or five years before it did. But of course that would have cost a lot of people a lot of money. Easy for us to say that. If I were David Ogden Stires or Harry Morgan playing golf every day off of my residual checks, I would probably disagree.
All In The Family is a great example of a show going waaaaaaaaaay past its prime. Not to mention the laundry list of bad spinoffs.
Maybe Riker could get the drop on Tigh and sucker him with his trombone.
The Episiarch Memorial Award for pointless mindfucking. All proceeds from the awards show go to an autoerotic asphyxiation awareness charity.
I like it. Next nominee: the entire FOX network, for pulling the plug in things like Firefly and Sarah Connor.
EJM,
Wow. I didn't know anyone knew so much about game shows.
I don't know much about Riker or Picard, but that doctor, OMG. She could rubber glove me anytime.
"All In The Family is a great example of a show going waaaaaaaaaay past its prime. Not to mention the laundry list of bad spinoffs."
No kidding. You have to admire Newhart, MTM and Carol Burnett for killing off their shows while they were still good and leaving money on the table. Self respect is a pretty rare comodity in Hollywood.
I think that with some shows one problem is the way the shows are written.
Generally the first season of a show exists conceptually in somebody's head when the show is being developed as a pilot. Think "Heroes" or "Battlestar Galactica".
Then the series gets renewed, and they need more content to film fast, so more writers get brought on board and the showrunner needs to devise a through-line that coordinates the different work those writers are doing. And then the show sucks. Again, think "Battlestar Galactica".
In fact, BSG is pretty much the perfect example because sections of seasons 2, 3 and 4 are good - the sections where a writer or small group of writers is allowed to write a cohesive multi-episode story. [Like the Iraqtica episodes.] The scattershot nature of the storyline and the vast differences in episode quality seem directly related to the "guest writer and guest director" phenomenon. I've never watched "Lost", but my friends who do tell me this has happened to "Lost" also.
The Fox show Millenium had possibly the greatest last episode ever, at the end of the second or third season...
You kept watching that?
I think I watched two episodes of the zombie Millenium, then pulled the plug.
Fluffy,
Same thing happens to music acts. A tight band works for years getting better and writing a catalog of songs. They do a first record that is a hit. And then the "talent" people from the record company move in. The band then does a quicky second record under the tootelege of A7R "geniuses" who are supposed to know what sells. And the band quickly slips into terminal suckatude. Only the really remarkable talents can survive that kind of abuse.
Yes to all. I'm amazed that in hindsight I've only watched maybe five series finales in my life. Why did they cancel Greg the Bunny and On the Air?
I don't know much about Riker or Picard, but that doctor, OMG. She could rubber glove me anytime.
Doc Cottle? Kinky. You do know he was "Dutch" on Soap?
Soap didnt have a good send off. Screwed by the network as Farscape was, ending with a cliffhanger.
JW, I was speaking of Dr. Crusher. (thanks wiki)
Fluffy, you used Heroes and BSG as examples, but what also connects those two shows is the fact that they both have many, many character arcs going--some would say too many.
This creates confusion in all but the most dedicated watchers, and gives less time to individual character development. And how do you handle more characters? Hire more writers.
I think BSG actually handled it pretty well, with Heroes less so. But it will always eventually get out of control.
Soap is one of those things you watch now and wonder "How the fuck was this on broadcast TV?" (I mean that in a good way.)
"Soap is one of those things you watch now and wonder "How the fuck was this on broadcast TV?" (I mean that in a good way.)"
I haven't watched that in years. I am kind of afraid to. I don't want it to turn out to be not as good as I remember it being.
And then ABC did it again years later, ending Benson with the cliffhanger election between Benson and the governor.
Forgot one: Babylon 5. Killer ending to a grand-arc show. (and yes, most of season 5 sucked)
God knows the show had it's problems, but it's still enjoyable.
Fluffy--I don't think it's reasonable to expect every episode to be as good as the last. There will be suckage in-between brilliance.
Budget has something to do with that. On BSG, for example, they had to get rid of the Pegasus because its set was too damned expensive to keep. However, the eps with Pegasus were good episodes that broke up the show's plot a bit.
If I recall, Soap holds up pretty well. That show is nuts, and I remember all the adults freaking out over it when I was a little kid (freaking out in that they loved it).
John,
It holds up fairly well. You realize that the possession storyline line goes on a little too long, but everything else is still quite zippy. And if you watched as a kid like me, the multiple-level innuendo is great.
Most of the watchable shows are like the hotty at LaVela during spring break. Fun to watch at first. Doin shots and flashing and kissing her bff. Eventually you get to the power puking and she pisses herself and well, that's when you are in "Archie Bunker's Place" territory.
brotherben-- I know, just having a little fun at your expense.
Let's not forget, "Mary Hartman Mary Hartman."
I re-watched Soap about ten years ago, and I thought it was still pretty funny.
JW, I kinda figured that. I just didn't want Epi to think I was oriented in that way. NTTAWWT.
If I recall, Soap holds up pretty well. That show is nuts, and I remember all the adults freaking out over it when I was a little kid (freaking out in that they loved it).
I'll second this. I remember just LOVING it as a child - I used to stay up late to catch it (it was on at 10:30PM when I was a lad). I saw it again recently and it still is pretty funny and watchable. Although I am biased
brotherben, the fact that you dig Gates McFadden is frightening enough.
TNG: a show that couldn't even manage to include some eye candy in the cast. Even VGR quickly got Jeri Ryan.
Speaking of TV, anybody else think Breaking Bad's season finale was completely awesome?
Epi, does Marina Sirtis count as eye candy"
Fine, I'm a sick man. Gates McFadden stirs my loins in that show.
Epi - what? you're not a Whoopi Goldberg fan?
But, hey, IMO, Marnia Sirtis > Kate Vernon. And who's the eye-candy in BSG? Six? I mean, yeah, I guess, but what a terrible character.
It's not their fault that Denise Crosby wanted out by season 1's end.
And who's the eye-candy in BSG?
Grace Park. Thousands of naked Grace Parks.
Eight. All of them.
Fluffy--Another exception that comes to mind is Babylon 5.
The entire last season was written by the show's creator, as were the previous 2 seasons, but 2/3 of the last season sucked, mostly due to the psychics story line, which didn't really add anything to the arc and a lead character leaving the show.
TNG's series finales was quite the snooze fest-another episode with Q once again 'testing' the crew, time travel and characters with 'old' makeup on. Whoopty-doo.
Fuck you, with a rusty Klingon dildo of pain.
Speaking of TV, anybody else think Breaking Bad's season finale was completely awesome?
SPOILER WARNING!!!!!!!
737 Down Over ABQ - that was pretty clever. A little OTT for me though. Good episode and a good season however.
EJM,
Wow. I didn't know anyone knew so much about game shows.
Compared to, say, the many tape-traders and YouTube posters, I actually know very little.
Speaking of YouTube, here are Betty White destroying the Ca$hword "magic toaster" on the final Super Password, a set of fake Winner's Circle subjects from the final $20K Pyramid, various G-T staff (including Mr. Goodson himself) dropping by during the final ABC Password, Monty Hall and Jay Stewart dropping by during the final ABC Split Second (cancelled on the same day as Password; yes, that's the late Judd Rose as a contestant), and Richard Dawson's goodbye on the final ABC Family Feud.
And who's the eye-candy in BSG?
That's a joke, right?
It's not their fault that Denise Crosby wanted out by season 1's end.
My god, you're worse than brotherben. Crosby? Really? Mary Crosby, sure, but...Tasha Yar?
That's OK, brotherben, I'm just relieved you weren't talking about Dr. Pulaski (second season). I just saw The Icarus Factor for the first time a couple of weeks ago and nearly threw up while she and Riker's dad were talking about their torrid love affair.
She was in Red Shoe Diaries. If you're saying Zalman King doesn't know attractive women, well, I wouldn't let him hear that if I were you.
Whenever The Simpsons finally ends, the last episode will be awesome. Just by virtue of being the last episode.
I should add that I always thought "jump the shark" referred to the shape of the shark's dorsal fin (ie, the show rises up slowly along the gentle curve of the front of the fin, and then "jumps" over the tip and drops precipitously).
"My god, you're worse than brotherben."
Epi, There's no justification for being that ugly with people.
I'm not into Asians.
Oh yeah, I remember another lame plot line. "I'm in love with this sworn enemy of mine who just shot you! Please, Edward James Olmos, don't push her out of the airlock!"
"Uh, OK"
WTF?
Epi, Geordi and Data had serious hots for her, so he's in good company. Of course they were blind and artificial, respectively, so it might not help.
Epi - not really a joke. Like I said, there's Six, but her character was so painful to watch.
The real DS9 finale was the second-to-last episode and it whupped the llama's ass with a belt. What was technically the "finale" will never be spoken of again.
I also remember the finale of The Adventures of Briscoe County Jr as being pretty strong, but I'm not sure that counts as I haven't seen it in years.
She was in Red Shoe Diaries.
All this proves is that you watch low-grade soft-core porn.
Epi, There's no justification for being that ugly with people.
I'm not the one into Dr. Crusher.
Epi - not really a joke.
Normally people here stun me with their attraction to ugly chicks. Congratulations, you have done the exact opposite. You deserve some kind of prize. Warty, what does the man win?
"She was in Red Shoe Diaries.
All this proves is that you watch low-grade soft-core porn."
Who doesn't? I recall the Red Shoe Diaries having a lot of really hot women running around naked. What is not to love?
Now there's a challenge: Other than Newhart has any final episode of any series ever ever been worth a damn?
I thought the final episode of The Wire was fantastic. Same with The Sopranos.
I just saw The Icarus Factor for the first time a couple of weeks ago and nearly threw up while she and Riker's dad were talking about their torrid love affair.
Wasn't that supposed to have been when they were younger, though? Because if you run the wayback machine on Dr. Pulaski, you get what she looked like when she guest starred on TOS, and she was TEH HOT.
TEH HOT + 25 years = Dr. Pulaski. Unfortunately.
The Rome series finale was good, and an adequate stopping point... but it was supposed to have another season.
Marina Sirtis was hot enough in her own way, I suppose, but the Deanna Troi character seemed so ridiculously vapid that I quickly lost interest. I mean, her bodacious rack* only provided so much distraction. The drivel that came out of her mouth soon took over.
Brotherben, I think one has to be a more mature type to appreciate Gates McFadden. These callow youths cannot be expected to have such finely developed tastes.
*I wanted to give Tim C or Nick G credit for that but can't check which one because I can't access Suck.com because it doesn't meet '[my firm]'s Acceptable Internet Use Policy because "Tasteless & Offensive" is not allowed'. Fucking prudes.
@ The Angry Optimist | June 2, 2009, 11:46am:
Blowing up Walnut Grove and walking off singing Onward Xian Soldiers. quite the image.
@John 12:06 - good call on the Wonder Years. It had to end that way!
What about NYPD Blue? I watched that through the 1997 season, stopped watching until the final one, and kinda like how they did that.
Then, the all-time bestest end was the final episode of TJ Hooker. You know - the one where Hooker knows the victim, and the aging guest-star-has-been turns out to be the guilty party, and Hooker gave his tough cop-toe-the-line speech? gold.
THX1138 is a GREAT MOVIE. Came out in 1970, when a lot of people pointed to long-haired hippies and drugs as what was wrong with America. In THX1138, everybody has short hair and it's illegal not to take your drugs and they're all being oppressed by fascists. Just like in real life.
It's out on DVD with 5.1 audio, etc. Sordid story of Warner fucking Francis Ford Coppola's movie company over it, nearly driving them out of business. It would be a different world if that movie had gotten the attention it deserved when it came out.
Warty, what does the man win?
He wins the mental image of Goatse man. Yeah, just try to get it out of your head, fuckwad.
Isn't that every episode of TJ Hooker?
ding ding ding ding ding.
yay!
*brays happily, ambles off*
I have never seen an episode of TJ Hooker. I want that on my gravestone.
Warty, now you're just into shameless self-promotion territory.
RickRoll, Sugar? It's just a harmless Rick Roll...
I didn't say the credits sucked. They were the only good part.
Who doesn't? I recall the Red Shoe Diaries having a lot of really hot women running around naked. What is not to love?
The lack of penetration shots?
I have never seen an episode of TJ Hooker. I want that on my gravestone.
No way, dude. The first time you see Shatner whip that baton between the legs of some punk running away from him, you have a certain type of epiphany: that THE SHAT IS BACK.
I have never seen an episode of TJ Hooker. I want that on my gravestone.
But, what about Barbary Coast?
My nomination for best, most consistent, long-run-but-not-too-long series with one cast and a good finale has to be Friends.
TNG: a show that couldn't even manage to include some eye candy in the cast.
You're just suppressing the memory of that massive boner that you got every time Wesley walked on camera.
SUPPRESSING????
HELL NO!!!!! CELEBRATING!!!!!
*heads off to Stevo's bunk to perform "the Crusher"*
You're just suppressing the memory of that massive boner that you got every time Wesley walked on camera.
That was a boner of rage, not lust. At least that's what I tell myself.
"Let's go watch some gay porn to get our hate back."
My nomination for best, most consistent, long-run-but-not-too-long series with one cast and a good finale has to be Friends.
Seriously? I guess they're right when they say there's no accounting for taste...
Friends has got to be the worst hit shit-com of all time.
Yes, shit-com is intentional.
"That was a boner of rage..."
That's what I'm naming my band: Boners of Rage.
"The lack of penetration shots?"
Generally the super hot chicks won't do those. You either have to give those up and have super hot women or get them and have not so super hot women. I will take the former. Some penetration shots just shouldn't be made.
The first season of Friends was watchable. It all ended when the monkey left the show.
Didn't Star Trek NG have Bing Crosby's daughter in it? The one with the short blond hair? I recall her being in Playboy and looking pretty good.
.......given that it was never really much more than a rip-off of American Graffiti drained of pathos, wit, and humor.
Absolutely. And well said.
The Office UK
If you mean the final episode of season two, you are correct. If you mean the subsequent Christmas special that served as a tacked-on happy ending, you're wrong.
Silly me, I've been on the Friedman thread arguing about deregulation and monetarism, when the action has been here all along...
"TNG: a show that couldn't even manage to include some eye candy in the cast."
I would've done it with Gates McFadden....
Boners of Rage? The plural is a little much imo...
Maybe Rageboner.
But the more elegant "The Hate-Fuckers" would be better.
"But the more elegant "The Hate-Fuckers" would be better."
That sounds like a porn paperback from the 70s.
The Rome series finale was good, and an adequate stopping point... but it was supposed to have another season.
I liked the finale as well although you could tell in the last half of the episodes they were cramming a lot of ideas into the story. It was obvious they were trying to sum up a lot of strands they had planned for another season. I couldn't help but feel the Egyptian episodes were meant ot have been told over an entire season.
I must say that the five minutes or so that I've seen of Friends made me realize that Newton Minow was a prophet after all.
I did not care for the way Voyagers! ended.
... with Jon Erik Hexum saying, "hay gaiz. check this out..."?
While not the best finale per se, when the sitcom Action was cancelled in the middle of it's first season, the lead character has a heart attack just prior to the final commerical break -- apparently as part of the regular story arc. Returning from the break, a paramedic in an ambulance declares the guy dead at 8 pm Thursday night -- that's all folks . . . .
It's not their fault that Denise Crosby wanted out by season 1's end.
Actually, it is. The weak-ass writing of the first season, especially for Yar, was what drove her off.
... with Jon Erik Hexum saying, "hay gaiz. check this out..."?
Actually, that happened while he was on Cover Up.
My 13 year old son's favorite TV shows are professional wrestling and Friends. We're going on Maury next week.
Other than Newhart (the sitcom starring Bob as a Vermont innkeeper) has any final episode of any series ever ever been worth a damn?
Six Feet Under
100% in agreement here. Best series finale ever. I still go back and watch the last 15 minutes sometimes out of nostalgia. True to whole series, true to characters, closes all doors with finality.
They built up Battlestar Galactica to have all kinds of potential, but it all came crashing down in epic failure. Heavy handed, rushed, and behaviors completely out of character for all the majors. Ron Moore made it very clear that they were winging it week to week, with little regard for the endgame, and it really showed.
John, thanks for mentioning Blackadder. That was a good one.
165 comments and no one mentions Arrested Development?
Sure the last episode wasn't all that great, but the series had the most awesome "Jump the Shark" reference ever.
And if we're including anime finales, the last episode of R.O.D. the TV was great.
I think Married With Children deserves an honorable mention here because how many shows can jump the shark (the Seven season) and then show the wisdom to reverse it by killing off said shark jumper. Well played.
Freaks and Geeks, people. Of course, the show was canceled during its first season so it didn't have a lot of time to degenerate into suckage, but Lindsay and Kim running off to follow the Dead brings me to tears every time.
As for really bad ones, well, Chris Carter deserves his own circle in hell, doomed to watch seasons 6 through infinity of The X-Files for eternity with only occasional breaks for the straight-to-hell arcs of Millennium and The Lone Gunmen.
@Mister DNA: Yeah good call on AD
Also, I still say that The Wire and The Sopranos both had finales that lie somewhere between solid and spectacular.
It would be a worthwhile project for a small group of film editors to edit out Will Riker & his dotty mother out of every episode of Star Trek TNG. Even though I'm not a Treckie fan, and only enjoy the show on the occasional channel flip through, I have to admit we could possibly wind up with the greatest show ever. And speaking of strong ending, actually this one had a pretty good one. Better than the TNG movies.
I'm with TAO, I really do despise BSG.
You can't fault sitcoms for ending terribly, it's in their DNA. Similarly, soap operas like LOST and HEROES can't have nice endings either. They are designed to keep going until the life has been sucked out of them
Here you couldn't be more wrong. The producers had in mind a five year story arc because the last thing they wantedto do was to repeat X-Files failure. They negotiated with ABC and got a six year story arc deal, but with reduced episodes from 23 per season for the first three (I think twenty-one story episodes, plus two clips was the standard) seasons and varying afterward with 17 story episodes this year. So they maintain around the same number of episodes they had planned without a lot of filler (I agree about the tailsectioners, that was season 2 a long time back, and even that season ended very well).
Lost has had a history of good finales. 2,3, and this seasons were very good mind fucks, and off centered events ('come on, damn you, why. wont. you' fade to white). I'm sure the series finale next year will be off the top of the charts.
Other good series finales -- Cowboy Bebop, and The Wire, even if someone didn't get what was coming to him, after all, the theme of the show was TANJ.
"TNG: a show that couldn't even manage to include some eye candy in the cast."
I would've done it with Gates McFadden....
Blehhhh!
I'm with TAO, I really do despise BSG.
SPLITTERS!!!
Man, I am pissed that the Sarah Connor show ended, but it did kind of end on a cool note.
BSG suffers in its ending in that many of what the writers had told the audience were plot points with great significance to the overall story arc were thrown in for other reasons without much aforethought as to how it was going to fit together (yes, Hera, I am looking at you). The writers having had fun throwing crap in the mix the first three seasons had to somehow tie up in a neat little bow in the fourth. No wonder the package came out a bit lumpy. I did overall enjoy that series
Babylon 5 at least had an excuse for its fifth season. They thought they were not getting the fifth season until almost the last minute and rushed the overall arcs to a conclusion at the end of the fourth. Leaving the fifth season with not much of a reason for existing.
The hotties in BSG,
Starbuck, not really hot, but good enough
The asian cylon
xena, getting older, but still hott.
number 6, in her various forms.
the hot dog hispanic pilot that got bitchy with starbuck
The indian cylon that murdered Chief's wife
Some of the harem of the funny little english guy.
That is just off the top of my head.
Was a good show but ended in the suck. Who wants to be a cave man indeed.
Hey, were there still cylons on Caprica?
And after 150,000 years wouldn't the Cylons evolve to near Godhood?
Starbuck, not really hot, but good enough
Starbuck is "not really hot," am I watching the same show as everyone else?
Maybe I just have a thing for pilots ....
Not only will the concluding installment of Lost be a record setter, it'll really sell the DVDs of the complete serial. Viewers will have been so thoroughly mindfucked, they'll want to figure out how that was accomplished.
Marshal Law had the same thing happen to it as Sledge Hammer!.