Where's the Social Democratic Boom in Europe?
It's not entirely accurate to argue that Europe is, broadly speaking, "trending right" (in the same way that Latin America has drifted left in recent years). And it's a conversation that should be generally avoided, for it is often mired in definitional debates of just what counts as "center-right." But it is nevertheless interesting to observe that while some political commenters search for Scandinavian solutions to the current economic crisis, many voters across Europeāwhich, in recent years, has seen slight roll backs in generous welfare and labor policiesāare ignoring their native social democratic parties. There exist many ruling center-right governments across the pondāFrance, Denmark, Czech Republic, Germany, Italy, Poland, the Netherlands, and Sweden, for instanceāand a few, like Nicolas Sarkozy and the recently ousted Czech Prime Minister Mirek Topolanek, are being challanged by stong opposition socialist parties. And many of the right-leaning, populist, and Christian-flavored parties listed below are supporters of their respective welfare states, though with varying degrees of enthusiasm. What is interesting, though, is that in the thick of a global financial crisis many European voters are not migrating to parties of the left.
For instance:
Britain*: Despite an ever-so slight recent uptick in support for the Labour, according to this YouGov poll, David Cameron's Conservatives (41 percent) are still outpacing Prime Minister Gordon Brown's party (34 percent) by a significant margin. Cameron is no Margaret Thatcher on economic issues, of course, but his policies are significantly better than anything offered by Prime Minister Brown.
Germany: According to this poll by Forsa/Stern, Germans are generally satisfied with the center-right government of Chancellor Angela Merkel, which has called for limiting executive pay and greater regulation of the financial sector, while rejecting calls for further economic stimulus packages. The opposition SPD (Social Democrats) haven't gained much ground during the crisis (hovering around 25 percent), while Merkel's CDU is steadily polling at 34 percent. The free market FDP (Free Democratic Party), which in 2005 federal elections took under ten percent of the vote, is at an impressive 17 percent and is a likely coalition partner in a CDU/CSU government, provided they win in September.
Sweden: A recent poll by Demoskop/Expressen found the Social Democrats losing a staggering 9 percent of its support (down to 30.9 percent), thus making the nominally right-of-center Moderaterna the country's largest party (35.5 percent). According to another recent poll, the only political figure Swedish voters mistrust more than Social Democrat Party chair Mona Sahlin is Lars Ohly, the self-identified "Leninist" leader of the Left Party.
Hungary: If elections were held today, according to recent polls, Fidesz, a right-wing populist party, would pull an astonishing 62 percent of the electorate, with the Hungarian Socialist Party (MSZP) finishing a distant second place, at 23 percent.
Poland: Recent polls show that the right-wing populist/nationalist Law and Justice Party (PiS) and the ruling Civic Platform, a generally free-market party of the right, command the loyalty of almost 80 percent of Poles.
The Netherlands: Geert Wilders anti-immigration Freedom Party (PvdV) is, according to the most recent polling data, the most popular party in the country, with the Christian-Democratic Appeal, a right-leaning party that supports the current Dutch welfare state, running a close second.
Finland: The center-right National Coalition Party (Kokoomus, though labeled here, for some reason, the "National Rally Party"), the country's "classical liberal" party of "individual freedom," currently holds a slight lead over the Social Democrats.
Again, there are a host of country-specific reasonsātension over immigration in the Netherlands, a recent pension scandal in Sweden involving the opposition Social Democrats, Labour Party fatigue in England, etc. Regardless, in the midst of the current financial crisis, Europe, so often a vague watchword for state intervention in the economy, has (for the most part) not seen a widespread increase in support for parties of the social democratic left.
* The Spectator's always entertaining blogger Alex Massie, a native of Scotland, emails, scolding me for writing "England" when I meant Britain. It has been changed. And no disrespect intended to our Welsh, Scottish, and Northern Irish readers.
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"The Netherlands: Geert Wilders anti-immigration"
Maybee I'm wrong about this but anti-immigration is anti-capitalist (neo-mercantilist) and therefore
left wing in my book
This is all interesting, and it is indeed difficult to try to fit them in a definitive libertarian-style political spectrum (probably because of their legacy of feudalism), but what this sums up to is that they're not trending far-Left socialist, as we understand it.
I guess that's a good thing. What of libertarian-style politics? Is it marginalized as racist and lacks-of-planning, even though it would be easier to get a foothold in their paliamentary systems?
Oh yeah, no mention once again of Israel, huh, Moynihan? OK, so they're not in Europe, but still, Chad is utopia compared to the OT.
MaterialMonkee,
In a monarchy where the crown owns everything by default, it's easier to argue that the nationalist restricting citizenship or residency to the "nation" of a people is the traditional mode of operation. The ideal there would have no barrier to exit and high barrier to entry, like an Amish commune.
To the extent that this decision would be voluntary, perhaps unanimous, it seems a righteous exercise of property rights. What makes it imperfect isn't that it's a modern nation-state that would be carrying it out, nor that the purpose is to retard a cultural crusade -- it's that the economics of it do point to mercantalism.
In short: I agree with you, but the line of reasoning that brought them to anti-immigration result is scattershot.
Um, in Germany the SPD isn't in the opposition, it forms a Grand Coalition with the CDU.
Fucking excellent Thatcher link there!
I wonder about the extent to which Europeans associate their left with greater European integration.
Perhaps greater integration is low on the list of things Europeans want right now?
Interesting how most of the "right" parties are welfarists. I guess that's the new spectrum in Europe: socialist left versus welfarist right, with no room whatsoever for a smaller state.
Damn you Bismarck!
"...excellent Thatcher link there!"
In the old days, there were giants.
Nah, it was probably the times that made them. We could use another lot like that again. ...right about now, actually.
um...tag closed.
Well, they havn't been living under a faux-market system for the last 8 years, so they can't blame "deregulation". They do kinda blame the US and Bush, but since that's only indirectly responsible for their problems, the free-marketeers over there only get indirect flack. Plus they can view the results of top-heavy welfare statism up close and personal, so they are less inclined to turn further in that direction.
Fucking excellent Thatcher link there!
Hear, hear!
Oh, for an American pol who could deliver a punch to the port-side solar plexus like that. Too many blow-dried Ken dolls in Congress for me.
Actually, I think you mean "United Kingdom".
Thatcher was awesome.
Yep, it sucks. What they really need is egalitarian international welfare from cradle to grave.
The system of social welfare on a grand scale simply can't sustain itself over time as taxes increase. Eventually, the taxpayers get fed up, even if it takes a seemingly really long time, eventually it happens and things start to change.
Gosh, any place near a Communist nation during the cold war went far right.
"Interesting how most of the "right" parties are welfarists. I guess that's the new spectrum in Europe: socialist left versus welfarist right, with no room whatsoever for a smaller state."
There's nothing new about that. Since World War I most of Europe's political parties have either been right or left-socialist. The exception was Great Britain, but now that the Conservative party's rejected Thatcherism they've also become more and more continental.
And yes, monkee, anyone who doesn't want large numbers of anti-libertarian Muslim voters/potential rioters is a leftist.
And this is the short-sighted idiocy that has doomed small-governmentism in the U.S. for the long term.
Well, moreso than it was doomed already at least.
It's mostly conservative parties that are doing well, not libertarian or "classical liberal" parties, though, unfortunately.
The UK doesn't really have a strong libertarian/classical liberal party. At least "anybody but Labour" is doing well.
By far the most libertarian party in Germany is the FDP. 17% is an improvement but they're still not really in a position of power.
In Sweden, the small Liberal People's Party is probably slightly more libertarian than the Moderates, and they're losing support. Sweden doesn't have much of a strong libertarian party to choose from either way.
The most libertarian party in the Netherlands is the VVD, who are doing well to not have their support drop, since Geert Wilders' party is an outgrowth of it. Even so, 15% is not impressive. At least Geert Wilders is not too unfriendly to most libertarian causes besides immigration.
Finland is the most promising at this point. The National Coalition Party is too centrist to be really called a libertarian party, but they're the best Finland has.
sage | April 9, 2009, 8:10pm | #
Oh yeah, no mention once again of Israel, huh, Moynihan? OK, so they're not in Europe, but still, Chad is utopia compared to the OT.
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Is Stormfront down? Since Jew hating seems to be your only concern, you will find lots of similar minded "people" there.
You admit that the article is talking about Europe, and that Israel isn't a part of Europe, but then have to attack them anyway? Do you read histories of the Holocaust and feel nostalgia for the "good ole days"?
Who cares what the article is actually about, you simply NEED to blame some Jews for something? Sad.
Marshall Gill,
I suspect your sarcasm detector is on the fritz. Also, even if he were serious, being critical of Israel does not automatically equal Anti-Semitism.
Actually, I think most of the Stormfront guys think Jews living in Israel is a splendid idea.
It means "they" won't be living here.
Britain*:
Labour is really a centre-right party these days, but just not very good at it.
You have to love "sage" for trying a spoof of a months old post of mine and actually inviting the kind of Likudian fanaticism that I was complaining of originally in the form of Marshall Gill...The Right really has trouble with subtle humor, it often backfires on itself and it really sails over their head like a kite a kid let go of on a breezy March day...
I wouldn't consider this particular trait to be characteristic of the right or left but endemic to wingnutty types in general.
"The Right really has trouble with subtle humor, it often backfires on itself and it really sails over their head like a kite a kid let go of on a breezy March day..."
subtle humor isn't much of a sell with anyone these days. i see your likudniks and raise you feministing! š
Yo, fuck social democracy. To buy into that kind of benevolent despotism, you have to believe that people who go into politics are both smarter AND less self-interested than the average, which in turn requires a mind-boggling amount of disconnect from, like, facts and stuff.
Indeed, it's interesting to note that despite the global recession we don't watch the social-democrat boom. Where is the phantom of Communism? According to the left expectations this phantom should already haunt Europe. Europeans ignore the native social democratic parties and prefer to vote for the right-center. Of course, the ruling right-center government is often far from the Thatcher's pro-market conservatism. But as a rule it's better than socialists. Although in Hungary the former left prime-minister provided the economic policy in the best traditions of fiscal conservatism. Here we can find the example, when the exception proves the rule.
Also we should avoid the labels, because in recent years several left governments of Latin America including for example Brazil and Chile carry out more market-oriented policy than so-called right government of such European countries as France or even Germany.
That introductory couple of sentences were too timid. Europe has been trending right, pretty solidly, for 3-5 years.
It's not that surprising. Democracies tend to oscillate around the center regardless of what's happening.
Agreed.
I think the first trend we have as a result of Globalization is an averaging of values. The US will move more towards socialism and the rest of the world will move more towards capitalism. After people in each country get a decade to try out ideas that are new and foreign to them, they will shart shifting towards the ideas that work best for them.
It's not that surprising. Democracies tend to oscillate around the center regardless of what's happening.
Circa early 1930's says different....
Maybe the internet HAS made us better.
"they" being the oligarchs, of course.
"Damn you Bismarck!"
Yo, fuck Bismarck!
Nope, not feeling it.