Presidential History

George W. Bush: An Easy Act to Follow

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The first rule of being a new coach is to always follow a loser. Ron Hart applies that logic to Barack Obama, who is effectively taking over the Detroit Lions after years of the Marinelli Magic. Writes Hart about Dubya's legacy:

Bush has been a big-government disaster. He was the "outside the Beltway" Texas governor who was going to cut spending and bring Washington under control. Instead, he oversaw the biggest expansion of government in modern times. And the most tragic effect of the Bush legacy is that he has set the conservative/libertarian ideology back 20 years. He did so by not being a conservative or a libertarian.

Now all that is left for him is to pardon a few folks and try to burnish his legacy. To date he has pardoned fewer felons than his predecessors. My guess is that even criminals don't want a pardon from W because they don't want to be too closely associated with him.

And this:

[Obama] has an easy act to follow in George W. Bush, who solidified his position with me as perhaps our worst president when he ignored the will of the country and Congress in giving Detroit all that bailout money (better known as "rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic"). Bush, with help from Dick Cheney, has tried to establish an imperial presidency. In doing so he has always found the desires of Congress and the American people to be quaint and amusing. But W feels he knows best. That would be fine, if he had been right more often.

As a result of bad choices and the betrayal of fundamental principles, W's approval ratings are the lowest of any modern president. The only thing Bush is still above is the law.

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Read all about Bush's "disaster socialism" in the January issue of Reason.

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  1. Johnson was worse President in the way that people who come along first are generally perceived as greater. …from The Great Society to the decision to go big in Vietnam, and then you can throw in the begining of what we now know as the drug war.

    W is worse than Johnson in that from Iraq to the expansion of Medicare, Bush should have learned from Johnson’s mistakes.

    If we judge presidents by how well they defended the Constitution, I don’t think there’s much question but that George W. Bush is the worst president we’ve had since World War II.

  2. Man, what a time to be alive. It’s almost like 2001-2006 didn’t happen.

  3. who is effectively taking over the Detroit Lions after years of the Marinelli Magic.

    Mr. Matt Millen should be getting the lion’s share of the blame for that. And yet, last night I was watching the playoffs on NBC and they’re having him evaluate the teams’ performance on the halftime shows! Isn’t that like having Richard Simmons judge the swimsuit competition during Miss Teen USA?

    I’ve always said that sports reporting is superior to political reporting, because in sports you actually get fired for being wrong. If Bill Kristol and David Brooks were giving advice to fantasy football players instead of presidents, for instance, they would have been thrown out on their asses after eight weeks. Now, I’m not so sure.

  4. The problem is, the whole big government/small government discussion has become extinct. To be the anti Bush, Obama simply has to shower “working people” with the money he prints up. Not fighting a war, pretty much buys him all the antibush credibility he’ll ever need. Oh, and I think he’s black, so that buys him a pass on any Bush policy he continues.

  5. “Mr. Matt Millen should be getting the lion’s share of the blame for that. And yet, last night I was watching the playoffs on NBC and they’re having him evaluate the teams’ performance on the halftime shows!”

    I wondered about that too. I guess it all comes down to who you know.

  6. “I wondered about that too. I guess it all comes down to who you know.”

    To be fair, he does have four or five Super Bowl rings.

  7. To be fair, he does have four or five Super Bowl rings.

    Yes, but he certainly didn’t get them for his talent assessing abilities.

  8. In fairness, the Lions got worse after Millen left.

    bwahahahahaha!

  9. If Jimmy Carter can have his reputation restored, anyone can.

    On another point, those on the left who repeatedly tell me that our Constitution is a “living, breathing document” that “adjusts” to changing times are the last people on Earth who should criticize W, Alberto Gonzales, and the gang. They and their supporters justified the increase in presidential authority (at the expense of the other two branches) and the encroachment on civil liberties by telling us, repeatedly, that “9.11 changed everything,” and that we had to adjust to the “new dangerous world” in which we are “surrounded by people trying to kill us.” Isn’t that simply the “living, breathing Constitution” argument dressed up in different wording.

    The challenge for conservatives/libertarians is to point out that Bush’s failings were from an excess of government, not to little.

  10. The question is, was George W. Bush better or worse than James Buchanan?

  11. Why does every Ron Hart column get posted here, with half the original column blockquoted? Does this piece say anything that Reasonoids haven’t already said much better?

  12. Bush was terrible, but I wouldn’t rank him below Nixon, Buchanan or either Johnson.

  13. yeah, the biggest travesty of the Bush years is definitely his “disaster socialism”. /snark

    you reasonoids have the whole ideology thing down pat. please continue to hang out with the repubs. you guys deserve each other.

  14. You da man, Wicks Cherrycoke! That’s the best explanation against the prevailing liberal view of the Constitution that I’ve heard.

  15. I guess it all comes down to who you know.

    Which is, not coincidentally, how you become President.

    Bush is more Phil Savage than Rod Marinelli: brash, confident, down with J.C., made a lot of expensive gambles ignored the opinion of his peers, passed the blame on to others as much as possible, and left in shame after having made things worse and wasting a lot of money in the process.

  16. cunnivore-

    Last night my wife asked me why NBC had Matt Millen in the booth. She wondered why anybody would want to hear from a guy who was such a failure as the Lion’s President/GM.

    Well, he was an All-american at Penn State. His head coach was Joe Paterno. He played on 4 Super Bowl winners with three differnet teams under coaches like Tom FLores, Goerge Sierfert and Joe Gibbs. He was a very good, though not great, player. He was generally considered one of the smartest guys in football as both a player and as an analyst.

    Yes, his stint as Detroit’s Pres/GM was an abject failure-but any guy who played football at Penn State and was an All-American and who played on four Super Bowl championship teams for Hall of Fame coaches, and who was a highly regarded analyst for 8-9 years, is not exactly Richard Simmons judging the cheerleaders.

    Just some perspective.

  17. cunnivore-

    IMO, Millen has achieved far more in his world, than either Kristol or Brooks, in theirs. One could argue, that Kristol’s status, to some extent, was made possible by his daddy.

  18. When did the “Rearranging Deck Chairs on the Titanic” idiom get so big? It’s been like, a century. Perhaps we need to say “Washing the Trade Centers windows on the 10th” or something. I’m not pithy, you internet types should get on that though.

    >If Jimmy Carter can have his reputation restored, anyone can.

    Well, because he didn’t actually suck.

  19. From a libertarian perspective, did Bush do anything right? The only thing I can remember was Social Security reform, which he failed to achieve, despite rolling over for every request the Republican congress made of him.

    He combined the worst aspects of modern conservatism (theocratic, warrior impulses) with none of conservatism’s alleged virtues (fiscal conservatism).

  20. Kristol and Brooks achieved a great deal. Their foreign policy beliefs were enacted as official US government policy for over six years (and counting, with Gates staying on in DoD). You probably don’t think those achievements were a good thing, but I’m sure OSU backers don’t like Millen’s achievements either.

    But maybe Simmons wasn’t the best example. It would be like that girl with the “like, such as, US Americans” judging the interview part of the Miss Teen USA pageant.

  21. Frank McStank, I tend to agree with Stephen Colbert that the Bush administration has been rearranging deck chairs on the Hindenburg.

  22. Jimmy Carter didn’t suck? What?

  23. If Jimmy Carter can have his reputation restored, anyone can.

    I don’t see Bush building houses for poor people with his bare hands any time soon. Maybe he’ll surprise me.

  24. BDB, maybe he just sucked in his heart.

  25. Some of us saw Bush for what he was years ago, and fought against him with all our might. Reason and I valiantly opposed his borderline traitorous plans time and time again. Standing strong, both Reason and I pointed out his failings, even despite it not being popular at the time. Yes, both Reason and I took hits for that, but it was worth it to stand against Bush’s anti-American plans.

    Oh, wait, it was just me doing that. Instead of opposing Bush, Reason enabled him.

    Never mind.

  26. The guy whose legacy has really been helped is Clinton’s. Did anyone else think he would be missed and/or look good by comparison when he left office?

  27. Jimmy Carter didn’t suck? What?

    No, Carter blew. FDR sucked.

  28. What did LBJ do, then?

  29. I’ve carried the following around since the Iraq invasion:

    “For as long as I live I will never forget that this whirling son of a bitch exploited the worst American tragedy in our lifetimes in order to launch a war which he had been planning from the first day he took office against a country that had not attacked us, had no intention of attacking us and had no ability to attack us, and then proceeded to lie to the nation and to the world about it.”

    .. good riddance

    .. Hobbit

  30. But Hobbit! THE SURGE WORKED!

  31. BDB, Clinton was massively popular when he left office. That Mr. Nobel Peace Prize couldn’t translate that into a landslide victory in 2000 says a lot about him.

  32. cunnivore | January 4, 2009, 1:15pm | #
    BDB, Clinton was massively popular when he left office. That Mr. Nobel Peace Prize couldn’t translate that into a landslide victory in 2000 says a lot about him.

    *SIGH*

    *Walks up threateningly towards cunnivore, SIGS*

    Lockbox!

  33. The only thing I can think of that Bush did right was appointing pro-gun justices to the SCOTUS. Can you imagine what Heller would have looked like if John Kerry had been responsible for filling Rehnquist and O’Connor’s seats?

  34. That is part of Truth, but not the worst of it.

  35. Hmm, guns for legalized torture? Yeah. No thank you.

  36. Lonewacko is talking again. Why?

  37. What was so bad about Carter? Seems like most of his problems were shit that happened, not his being malicious.

    Also, fuck guns. Most pro-gun people are pro-Republican. Pro-war, pro-torture. What’s the point of guns if we don’t use them to go against tyranny?

  38. jesus yes! no more of this half-keynseian measures, obama will be double or triple keynes!

    not to mention the end of union suppression.

    no more wars with obama either, he is no nixon he is more like lbj there.

    he will bring everybody together to talk things out, just like clinton did and result in a lasting peace.

    the problem with the 8 year long massive deep depression was not enough government spending to stimulate the economy.

  39. “Frank McStank | January 4, 2009, 1:23pm | #
    What was so bad about Carter? Seems like most of his problems were shit that happened, not his being malicious. ”

    He was totally incompetent in his response to those crises.

  40. What did LBJ do, then?

    He reeked. Of ass. Monkey ass.

  41. Here are a few bad Presidents, and Bush’s achievements similar to their own:

    Lyndon Johnson: lied to get us involved in a war with a country that never attacked us. Massively increased public spending on medical care.

    Dubya Bush: did the same (although with fewer casualties in his war).

    Jimmy Carter: had an incredible run up of energy prices during his administration. Allowed the Fed to massively inflate the currency, causing a recession.

    Dubya Bush: the same, then added a massive bailout on top of it.

    Bill Clinton: abused executive power as few presidents had ever done previously.

    Dubya Bush: abused executive power as no president had ever done previously.

  42. frank, thanks, i almost left out carter. he should be the ambassador to the middle east. he even freed the hostages that reagan got captured in iran.

  43. we need to give the troops a big group hug for being forced to do such awful things after being drafted and forced to reenlist so many times.

    obama will end the draft.

  44. i need attention. and love.

  45. “I don’t see Bush building houses for poor people with his bare hands any time soon. Maybe he’ll surprise me.”

    Florida Habitat homes built by Carter, celebrities, crumbling:

    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miami-dade/breaking-news/story/837177.html

  46. Ok, maybe the gas lines were bad, but what else could he do? He had the gall to ask the nation to conserve, there’s his “problem.” He was talking about real “green” stuff before it was chic too.

    As for Iran… didn’t we shoot their leader in 53? Didn’t they release the hostages only when Reagan got in? Seems fishy to me.

    I like Carter, he’s the least worst modern president.

  47. “Least worst” is a tie between Reagan and Clinton.

  48. Frank McStank is a most sophisticated troll indeed. I’d tip my hat to him if I were’t so afraid of exposing my bald spot.

  49. You noticed that too, Warty?

    (knocks Warty’s hat off, exposing bald spot, then laughs like Daffy Duck)

  50. I ain’t trolling, I’m genuinely curious why people think Carter is so bad, when he seems to be the least malicious president this side of JFK.

  51. If JFK hadn’t gotten his brains blown out he would be remembered the same as LBJ.

  52. If Bush wants to restore his reputation, spending the rest of his days emptying bedpans and scrubbing toilets at a Veteran’s Hospital would be a good start.

  53. No Bill Richardson in Obama’s administration.
    2009 is looking up!

  54. Though experiment: if Bush had gotten his brains blown out in 2003, would future generations worship him like JFK?

  55. “No Bill Richardson in Obama’s administration.”

    He’s Secretary of Commerce.

  56. “Warty | January 4, 2009, 1:54pm | #
    Though experiment: if Bush had gotten his brains blown out in 2003, would future generations worship him like JFK?”

    Probably, and Cheney would be hated.

  57. “No Bill Richardson in Obama’s administration.”

    He’s Secretary of Commerce.

    Not anymore he’s not.

  58. Probably, and Cheney would be hated.

    Chaney’s not hated now?

  59. Well, now I know why he chose Clinton over him to become Secretary of State.

  60. What did LBJ do, then?

    Fucked Kennedy in the ass.

  61. Good point, Epi.

  62. If I had to choose one “rock” during the entire Bush admin, it would be Reason Magazine. Reason valiantly stood athwart Bush’s un-American schemes, yelling, “stop, no, you go no further!”

    Every step Bush made, Reason opposed, valiantly blocking him at every turn! And, all at no concern to their careers or the financial interests of their funders!

    Why, Reason Magazine even called him a quisling!

    Oh, wait, that was just me too. Reason Magazine was on Bush’s side.

    Sorry for the confusion.

  63. no one here is confused but you.

  64. LBJ fucked Kennedy in the throat wound, fuckwad. Get your hilarious conspiracy theories straight.

  65. What did LBJ do, then?

    Why, he set an entire nation on fire, from the air. That’s what.

  66. I’m not sure what confuses me more about Lonewacko: his vanity, his delusions of importance, or his presumption that everyone hates Mexicans as much as he does.

  67. Warty, I think his delusions of importance are the most amusing part.

    ‘m still waiting to get served a SpoofageSubpoena by LoneWacko.

  68. If Obama is the new FDR, doesn’t that make Bush the new Herbert Hoover (in the sense that he will become the butt of jokes, but few will actually remember what he did because it will be overshadowed by the majesty of Obama’s reign)?

    Policy and personality-wise I’d say Hoover and Carter were more alike – both engineers. Whereas Bush reminds me of Wilson – his successes hurt the country even more than his failures.

  69. I’m not sure what confuses me more about Lonewacko: his vanity, his delusions of importance, or his presumption that everyone hates Mexicans as much as he does.

    Don’t hate LoneGonad because he’s beautiful, Warty. A beautiful soul.

  70. Bush’s most worthy accomplishment was this…

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/hivaids/

  71. I’m not sure what confuses me more about Lonewacko: his vanity, his delusions of importance, or his presumption that everyone hates Mexicans as much as he does.

    It’s gotten to the point where I’m reminded of this exchange from “Plan 9 from Outer Space” whenever I read one of his comments.

  72. See, EJM, I figure he’s more the Glen or Glenda type, furiously typing while dressed like this.

  73. Bush’s most worthy accomplishment was this…

    Agreed. Also, in general, Africa was the one continent that for the most part he failed to fuck up further.

  74. Bush’s most worthy accomplishment was:

    Allowing firearms carry in National Parks

  75. I’d take Carter over GW Bush any day. A president who can’t solve the problems of a country already in bad shape beats a president who inherited a country in decent shape and turned it all to shit.

    And while Carter failed in his attempt to rescue our hostages in Iran, at least he went gunning for the right country. Bush’s attempt to solve the Iranian-hostage problem would’ve involved bombing the hell out of Bolivia.

  76. Jimmy Carter’s ineptitude cost me a business, GWB cost me the fantasy hope of someday seeing a constitutional republic.

  77. That is just a perfect cover and a perfect way to say it. Sometimes you guys amaze me.

  78. That is just a perfect cover and a perfect way to say it.

    What — your comment about losing a business? Toot not thy own horn, dear. (Insert wink emoticon here.)

  79. Carter will *always* be a better president than GWB for one word: deregulation. He allowed for the deregualtion of interstate trucking, the airlines, the rairoads and started the process of eliminating price controls on oil. He was a total basket case beyond that, but at least he got *something* right.

    One thing to about Dubya to give him credit for is the personal interest he took in making sure that he royally fucked each and every one of us in the ass. You have to admire that attention to detail.

  80. Well, my family came up with Ayatollah Assaholla shirts, so I owe the man that much.

    Seriously, what business did you lose.

  81. Bush’s best?
    Tax cuts
    Holding firm on CO2 classification
    Scotus justices
    Missle defense

    His worst:
    Plenary executive
    Bailouts
    Spending
    Campaign finance reform

  82. Sure, Clinton was already popular when he left office, but look at the rest of the ex-presidents. Even liberals are now talking favorably of George HW Bush’s pragmatic, responsible, effective foreign policy. Jimmy Carter is now viewed as a wise man. And who can forget the Ford-gasm?

    But even Bill Clinton saw a revival – his reputation was in the toilet after the Republicans spent a couple years blaming him for 9/11, and now it’s back to where it was when he left office.

  83. “Now all that is left for him is to pardon a few folks and try to burnish his legacy. To date he has pardoned fewer felons than his predecessors.”

    I heard on the radio the other day that he had pardoned at least one person for non-violent drug offenses. If Mr. Bush would make the pardoning of non-violent drug offenders a focus of his remaining days in office, he could at least do some good worth remembering and even praising.

  84. “And the most tragic effect of the Bush legacy is that he has set the conservative/libertarian ideology back 20 years.”

    I would say that was his greatest achievement. It’s amusing to watch you market fundamentalist fanatics try to turn this crisis of capitalism into some sort of failure of socialism. The Jesuits could learn a thing or two from you fuckers.

  85. And the most tragic effect of the Bush legacy is that he has set the conservative/libertarian ideology back 20 years. He did so by not being a conservative or a libertarian.

    At least he had the wisdom to appoint people who resisted efforts to regulate mortgage derivatives.

  86. jimmy carter for iran ambassador!

    maybe iran and israel at the same time.

  87. Hey, guyz, those libruls think The Modern Churchill was a worse president than Jimmy Carter! What a larf, right?

    Guys?

    Hey, where’d everybody go?

  88. Also, if Mr. Bush would denounce the Drug War on his way out, as Mr. Eisenhower warned us about the “military-industrial complex” when it was his turn to vacate the Oval Office, that would do a lot to redeem him for some truly heinous crimes against liberty and the American people. I won’t be holding my breath, but I guarantee that five decades from now, people would still be watching and citing GW Bush’s “end the drug war” farewell address, as they now watch and cite Eisenhower’s farewell. If such a thing matters to Mr. Bush, he might want to consider making that speech.

  89. What we are suffering now is no “crisis of capitalism.” It is the inevitable, predictable result of mercantilism — which many of us here predicted and warned of long ago, long before Lefti came along (unless Lefti is the new name for an old troll on these boards, which wouldn’t surprise me).

  90. jam, you are right. the government needs to be more involved in everything. proper planning is the solution.

  91. something not mentioned, fdic insurance needs to be lowered to 20,000 because any more than that is hoarding and nobody needs that much money in savings.

  92. For some reason, my keyboard keeps dropping the extra “i” in Lefti … er LefIti (there, it did it again!). No offense intended.

    And of course “nobody u no” apparently captures names as they pop up in the thread and attributes arbitrary (opposite?) opinions to them, as I am sure people have realized by now.

  93. jam, i misread you and you are not as awsome as i thought. maybe you should leave the progressive boards and hang out with the regressives?

  94. James Anderson Merit

    People who use all three of their names to post banal dogmatic drivel have to have a screw loose somewhere. Go fuck yourself.

  95. It’s not a coincidence that sub-sahara Africa is the one part of the world that still likes us as much as they did in 2000.

  96. I wonder what joe thinks of his new “fan”.

  97. James – I believe lefti was formerly posting as the Ron Paul-hating troll edward, fondly known as edweirdo, though I could be mistaken.

  98. BDB,

    I think I continue to be blessed in my enemies.

    Holocaust deniers. Victor David Hansen admirers. People who spammed the face-cutting story all over the comment threads. A racist old Zionist creep who’s obsessed with gay people.

    And now, a self-proclaimed economics expert who didn’t realize that Keynesians support paying down debt during economic booms.

    Doo doo doo doo doo…I’m lovin’ it.

  99. But I do have to say, James, that Lefiti makes a good point about your silly name.

  100. That’s why I use my initials. People would shorten it to three letters if I used my real name or had a nick name, anyway. So I save them the trouble.

  101. I have endless respect for Ron Paul’s ability to get away with publishing the most outlandish racist tripe under his own name and getting away with it. CNN and other mainstream media hardly touched the rscist newsletter story and continued to cover Paul’s campaign with great respect. Amazing.

  102. That’s why I use my initials. People would shorten it to three letters if I used my real name or had a nick name, anyway. So I save them the trouble.

    I always thought it was an homage to the little robot dude on Buck Rogers.

  103. Oh, sorry, Ron Paul couldn’t be a racist because racism is collectivism and libertarians hate collectivism. Somebody tricked him into publishing those newsletters. See, I’ve been paying attention in catechism class.

  104. ask not for whom the ur-troll trolls; he trolls for thee, edweirdo

  105. Second on the Africa thing. Bush’s Africa policy was much better than Clinton’s.

    When Foday Sankoh and Charles Taylor’s butchers were chopping off arms and legs, Bill Clinton threatened the government of Sierra Leone with cutting off their aid if they didn’t agree to negotiate a power sharing agreement with the rebels.

    Disgusting.

  106. Sorry, that wasn’t even close to clever.

  107. That’s why I use my initials. People would shorten it to three letters if I used my real name or had a nick name, anyway. So I save them the trouble.

    if i posted as nunaabfojpbamaj it would make no sense.

  108. yes, but spoofing my handle is oh-so-clever, isn’t it?

  109. nobody u no and a big fan of joe p boyle and mng and jennifer | January 4, 2009, 5:56pm | #
    That’s why I use my initials. People would shorten it to three letters if I used my real name or had a nick name, anyway. So I save them the trouble.

    if i posted as nunaabfojpbamaj it would make no sense.

    That would be different from now, how?

  110. but joe, no american troops died in sierra leone.

  111. Lefiti has been posting stuff under my name, so I posted some under his name. I do repect Ron Paul, but not for the reasons I had lefiti claim he respects him for. The funny stuff is generally mine and the stupid stuff is Lefiti’s. This one is really mine, as you can no doubt tell. Damn that Lefiti!

  112. It would be awesome if we could have a Lefiti vs. nobody u no vs. LoneWacko flamewar for the prize of “Most Obnoxious Troll”.

  113. everyone knows that, edweirdo. shouldn’t you be practicing your wide stance in a public restroom?

  114. It’s not true. The funny stuff is mine.

  115. Knows what?

  116. if i posted as nunaabfojpbamaj it would make no sense.

    You never let that stop you before.

    For example, but joe, no american troops died in sierra leone. You mean, as opposed to Israel? WTF?

  117. bdb, you are the troll. go find a non-socialist board to post to and leave us progressives alone.

  118. You know what I mean, Lefti/Edweirdo.

  119. No, I really don’t

  120. go find a non-socialist board to post to and leave us progressives alone.

    Waah! I can’t even get the libertarians to take my side on Hit & Run! Screw you, Reason! I’ll bet you cosmotarians even use deodorant.

  121. This is a progressive board because joe posts here?

    Then it must also be a conservative board because RC Dean and John post here.

  122. Though joe never did call himself a progressive, but a liberal. But I’m not sure there’s a difference anyway.

  123. I apologize to Lefiti for suggesting that he’s obnoxious. the innominate one is obnoxious.

  124. You’re the obnoxious one, BDB.

  125. bdb, no. if a progressive is present it is progressive in spite of the regressives in the general area.

  126. also, reason was all for obama which is sort of in the progressive direction.

  127. Weeding through the crap at H&R is getting as bad as waiting for an intelligent comment on the Washington Journal.

  128. James Ard – I hear you. I think registration or banhammering was in order a loooong time ago.

    I sense that I will get a fake post for my troubles.

  129. Carter will *always* be a better president than GWB for one word: deregulation.

    I also give Carter credit for his attempt at zero-based budgeting. Too bad that didn’t work out any better then most of his other efforts.

  130. toa, i agree with you

  131. James Ard,

    If you want intelligent comment, what the fuck are you doing here? Try the Huffignton Post.

  132. wonkette is still around, isn’t she?

  133. Hopefully the end of the holydays will rid us of the desparately desparate posters that don’t have a bunch of pagan bullshit to clean up.

  134. i hope the first act president reason obama does is enact a ban on transfats, unhealthy food and tobacco.

  135. Jennifer – I believe TWC was referring to the reason issue cover shown in the blog post.

  136. Shit, I can’t even drum up any of the local pacifists to argue thet missle defense does more harm than good.

  137. That’s really an “a”, don’t believe your screen.

  138. James Ard, all the political blogs are pretty bad during the holidays. Especially if they have a Lefiti. Who, by the way, fails at spoofing me.

  139. This thread is one big turd ball.

  140. Who do you think is mostly responsible for that, Marcvs?

  141. Uhhh…is it George W. Bush? People tell me he’s at fault for everything.

  142. BDB, this blog recovered some non-political substance once the election was over and Weigal shut his trap. Unfortunately, you are right, people with lives don’t need this crap this time of year. But my Tide and Falcons have driven me to diversions, and damnit I need someone to argue with, other than my wife. BTW, fuck Philly.

  143. LoneWacko said Weigal is leaving. I didn’t think it was true, but I haven’t seen him around lately. So I’m thinking LoneDipshit might have been right.

  144. I have the one and only Lefiti over ay Urkobold.

  145. LoneWacko said Weigal is leaving. I didn’t think it was true…

    That’s probably a good default assumption for anything he says.

  146. TAO – well, really Cheney told Bush what to do , so he’s the root cause.

  147. Word on the street is that Weigel is now bloging here

    To which I say: “Ooh look at me, I blog for The Economist! Aren’t I cool? Aren’t you impressed with me?” Does he blog for the Economist because he’s smarter than everyone else? Or is he smarter than everyone else because he blogs for The Economist? Now there’s a conundrum!

  148. The Angry Optimist | January 4, 2009, 7:01pm | #

    Uhhh…is it George W. Bush? People tell me he’s at fault for everything.

    True story: TAO is a registered lobbyist for the little, tiny violin industry.

    Don’t mess with Big Little Violin.

    😉

  149. Weigel is posting at The economist from what i heard.

  150. BEYOND THE PALIN

    VICTOR DAVIS HANSON likes to write his columns from a parallel universe much like our own, except that he was right all along about everything

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2008/12/beyond_the_palin.cfm

    Sounds like Dave W. to me.

  151. wow, smoked by Kolohe. Good show.

  152. Somewhere on a comment board in Britain, Lonewacko’s equivalent is posting PoorlySpacedRants about how BloodyColonials like DaveWeigel shouldn’t be allowed to take jobs away from hardworking native British bloggers.

  153. Hey guys, I heard Wiegel is blogging at the Economist.

  154. Jennifer–

    The British LoneWacko is posting about how the IndianGovernment is invading their pure AngloSaxon land.

  155. Wiegal, I miss you, please come home. We need someone to tell us how Obama is God and will save us from all of our troubles.

  156. Damn this Hart guy is a good writer. Best column I have read on the Bush legacy.

  157. Why the Weigel hate? While he was rarely spot on, he was never out to lunch. That much cannot be said for some of the posters here . . .

  158. I just don’t get enough man on man action now that I’m a civilian.

  159. Keynesians support paying down debt during economic booms.

    I knew it. There aren’t any Keynesians, after all. Because “paying down debt during economic booms” is certainly something that never happened. Or at least not since the 19th century, long before anyone paid any attention to JM Keynes.

    And, joe, that is not a critique of either Keynesianism or the Democrats. Just a simple observation that when a politician looks at his constituency he will always find someone having hard times who need a little “stimulus”.

  160. hay gaiz – if you’re gonna talk econ, couldja at least maybe get your terms and schools straight in maybe 1995? if you’re ambitious, 2000?

    plllleeeeeezzz?

    and at least make like big boy and girl ekon. not the ekon 79. but where you use like a LaGrangian or Hamiltonian and like differential calc and linear and stuff? pretty please?

  161. I really enjoy Hart’s work, he is like a Dennis Miller with out the smug attitude. Seems like a guy I’d like to have a beer with.

    He is dead on about Bush.

  162. HART HAS SOME OF THE FUNNIEST LINES I HAVE EVER HEARD. HIS COLUMN IS IN OUR NORTH CAROLINA PAPER AND IS A BIG HIT. HE FINDS THE SENSIBLE MIDDLE IN THE LEFT VS RIGHT CRAP.

  163. More fodder for Hart: New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson on Sunday announced that he was withdrawing his nomination to be President-elect Barack Obama’s commerce secretary amid a grand jury investigation into how some of his political donors won a lucrative state contract.

    Let me guess, he hired Mexicans to do the work.

  164. We’d better be concerned with the path to destruction which the Dems seem to have planned for even larger federal govt and dependency of the masses.

  165. oh, now I have an impersonator! (the 8:20 post) – this is just getting adorable.

  166. The Angry Optimist | January 4, 2009, 9:10pm | #
    oh, now I have an impersonator! (the 8:20 post) – this is just getting adorable.

    Lefiti has a man crush on you, TAO.

  167. BDB – that’s two established man-crushes now. Y’know, I get hit on by men all the time IRL; it was only a matter of time before it started happening on the Interwebz.

  168. At least I think Lefiti is a dude. He may be a girl, I dunno. Either way, he/she/it has a crush on me too since I was spoofed by “it” upthread.

  169. Capitalism works. America should try it someday.

  170. When you come across a theory that is never wrong, you know you’re dealing with some fanatical fuckwits. Nothing personal.

  171. I don’t see Bush building houses for poor people with his bare hands any time soon. Maybe he’ll surprise me.

    He does have a very green house, though.

  172. That is just a perfect cover and a perfect way to say it.

    What — your comment about losing a business? Toot not thy own horn, dear. (Insert wink emoticon here.)

    That’s the trouble with this medium….

    I meant the Reason Magazine Cover is a perfect cover with a perfect photo and the Exit Stage Left bit was perfect as well.

    The Reason folks sometimes amaze me.

    My comment was just idle mediocrity

    🙂

  173. Open letter to Obama:

    Good news: Bush sucked, this should be easy.

    Bad news: Bush screwed up stuff that will affect your administration.

    Good news: You’ve got a stimulus plan.

    Bad news: It’s the same one George Bush had, but bigger.

    Good news: The economy will probably recover despite any stimulus plans.

    Bad news: Your stimulus plan is bigger than George W. Bush’s, so it’ll probably take much, much longer to recover.

    Good news: Democrats are uniformly controlling the federal government.

    Bad news: The democrats are uniformly controlling the federal government.

  174. Sorry for causing trouble, ever since I had my lowered ribs removed so I could suck my own dick I don’t think as clearly as I used to to. My bad

  175. Ok, maybe the gas lines were bad, but what else could he do? He had the gall to ask the nation to conserve, there’s his “problem.”

    He could have decontrolled oil, like, ahhh, Ronald Rayguns did, and voila, problem solved. Instead, he came up with the Windfall Profits Tax.

  176. glob?al? warm?ing [gloh-buhl w?rm-ing]

    1. When you come across a theory that is never wrong, you know you’re dealing with some fanatical fuckwits.

  177. the innominate one | January 4, 2009, 6:40pm | #
    Jennifer – I believe TWC was referring to the reason issue cover shown in the blog post.

    Thank you, IO. I guess I wasn’t that clear, but yes, I loved the Reason Cover.

  178. “I think I continue to be blessed in my enemies.”

    While I’m not your enemy, I don’t think well of you. Only pity.

  179. “Hey guys, I heard Wiegel is blogging at the Economist.”

    David is the gayest boy I’ve ever borne.

  180. TWC . . . how, exactly, did Reagan “decontrol” oil? While I am on the outside ring of Reagan fans, methinks your terminology is a bit misleading.

  181. BTW . . . it was his deft job at convincing the Saudis to flood the market with oil in the mid 80’s that did the trick.

  182. If you want intelligent comment, what the fuck are you doing here? Try the Huffignton Post.

    Now THAT’s funny I don’t care who you are.

  183. I have never seen so many libertarians cheering the coming of the second FDR.

  184. Hey, seriously, what do we have to do to get some sort of registration? This board has gone downhill fast.

  185. I’ll worry about “Weigal” after I find out what happened to Kerry Howley. Did she take that full-time gig on Red Eye or is she in hiding?

  186. cunnivore – young Ms. Howley is pursuing a degree of higher education somewheres.

  187. Dear President Obama,

    In a field of domestic policy, I put in the forefront, a large volume of loan expenditure under government auspices. I put in the second place the maintenance of cheap and abundant credit. With these policies I should expect a successful outcome with great confidence. How much that would mean, not only to the material prosperity of the United States and the whole world, but in comfort to men’s minds through a restoration of their faith in the wisdom and the power of government.

    Free money, forever and ever amen,

    Yours truly,

    JM Keynes

  188. Thank you Mr. Keynes,

    For sharing your wisdom, and I know it will be of great value to me and my forthcoming administration. You need not worry that I would doubt your advice and seek council else where (unlike the apostate William J Clinton) for I have a little white liberal perched on my shoulder whom I cannot get through the day without his constant approval. If I veer off course, I am overcome with a feeling of anxiety, guilt and generally I feel lost to a greater extent than I can possibly bear. You can rest as easy in your grave during the years of my administration as you have done so for Bush II. For every dollar of stimulus, rebate checks, expansion of
    regulatory oversight, pages in the Federal Register, public personnel in the surrounding DC metropolitan area,
    percentage of GDP devoted to government services, and deficit spending created by GWB (I hope you understand, for political purposes we call him Mr Laissez-Faire around here), I will easily double it as his great error (like FDR) was not going far enough.

    Yours in Spirit,

    BHO

    PS. I’ve been squirreling away cash for years for a college fund for my two daughters. I feel so terrible about this as I did not realize how detrimental savings is for the economy. However, I have corrected the error of my ways and Michelle is down at the The Fashion Centre with that money hand over fist as I write this.

  189. Testing. 1-2-3. Again.

  190. rwr, in case it was not obvious to you this is a progressive board.

  191. mark my words. today we think the pinnacle of economic thought to be keynes, but after the obama administrations it will be boyle.

  192. the american recovery and reenvestment plan is a step in the right direction. our crumbling infrastructure needs to be repared and the only enterprise in america that can do it is the federal government.

    we can do this while giving 95% of the americans who pay taxes getting a tax cut.

  193. i cant believe that richardson is being forced to step down by the same latant racism that infects our whole society, even some white progressives.

  194. As Hart says, maybe he (Bush) will get around to reading about the Shites and Sunnis to determine that they will never get along. Maybe then we can ask for our Trillion dollars back and 4000 kids who died.

    Hart is dead on, and I love the way he writes. Reminds me of PJ O’Rourke.

  195. Minor quibble, but “stage left” would have had Bush (in the cover photo) exiting in the opposite direction. Details, people, details.

  196. The Angry Optimist | January 4, 2009, 9:10pm | #

    oh, now I have an impersonator! (the 8:20 post) – this is just getting adorable.

    The “nobody” guy is getting increasingly pissed off that he can’t even get other libertarians to side with him, so he’s lashing out.

    Fun to watch.

  197. ed – Bush doesn’t know stage left from stage right

  198. And now, a self-proclaimed economics expert who didn’t realize that Keynesians support paying down debt during economic booms.

    Not my problem if you no idea what it means to monetize debt.

  199. VM,

    Care to share any of the deep insights into the current state of the economy that you’ve gained from your academic wonkery?

  200. Hart spoke at a convention I attended, he called the attack on Bush a shoe-acide attacked with Rockports of mass destruction.

    Funny guy and really the best libertarian humor columnist working.

  201. Loved it. One of Mr. Hart’s best however I love all of them.

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