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Writing in the New York Times, Daniel Sperling and Deborah Gordon, authors of the forthcoming book Two Billion Cars: Driving Toward Sustainability, advocate saving the Detroit auto industry by further taxing those who buy their (already overpriced) products:

One way to [fund the bailout] would be to establish a price floor of $3.50 per gallon on gasoline. If the price drops below that, as it recently has, the federal government would impose a variable tax to bring the price up to $3.50. If the price goes above $3.50, then the tax disappears. The money raised by the variable tax would be used, at least in the short term, to provide loan guarantees to the auto companies. (To ease the burden of higher gasoline prices on low-income taxpayers, some of the revenue would be provided to them as tax credits or vouchers.)

Of course higher gasoline prices would burden low-income Americans in other ways too, by increasing the cost of most consumer goods. And good luck convincing those who have recently purchased a Ford or a Chrysler (there must  be someone buying American cars) that an artificial price for gasoline is required, in order to give even more of your money to the selfless members of the United Auto Workers union.

Via Cato, Mark Perry, professor of economics at the Flint campus of the University of Michigan, argues that "Maybe the country would be better off in the long run if we let the Big Three fail, and in the process break the UAW labor monopoly, and then let Toyota, Honda and Volkswagen take over the U.S. auto industry, and restore realistic, competitive, market wages to the industry." He provides this helpful chart (which is further explained here; headline reference explained here):

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  1. I love this whole “if you can’t pay the tax we will give you a voucher” bullshit. What that means is that otherwise independent people who can support themselves are through tax policy placed on the government dole. In Sperling and Gordon’s world, no one but the highest elite is allowed to make and honest, independent living. Everyone must be on the dole in some way. God I hate those fukcers.

  2. How exactly would this encourage the Big 3 to not make gas-guzzlers?

  3. Yeah, wouldn’t the poor who get the vouchers continue to buy cheap gas guzzlers since they don’t have to pay the tax, anyway? WTF?

  4. [begin flashback]

    Waif: You can’t treat the working man this way! One of these days we’ll form a union, and get the fair and equitable treatment we deserve! Then we’ll go too far, and become corrupt and shiftless, and the Japanese will eat us alive!

    Burns’ Grandfather: The Japanese? Those sandal-wearing goldfish tenders? Ha ha! Bosh! Flimflaw!

    [end flashback]

    Mr. Burns: Oh, if only we’d listened to that young man, instead of walling him up in the abandoned coke oven.

  5. Mark Perry, professor of economics at the Flint campus of the University of Michigan, argues that “Maybe the country would be better off in the long run if we let the Big Three fail, and in the process break the UAW labor monopoly, and then let Toyota, Honda and Volkswagen take over the U.S. auto industry, and restore realistic, competitive, market wages to the industry.” He provides this helpful chart (which is further explained here; headline reference explained here)

    Of course Brother Perry is right. The trouble is, you can’t say it like that.

    A “takeover” by “furriners” ain’t going to be popular. Instead you have to frame it like this:

    The fat-cats in Detroit are trying to dine on your tax dollars. They make lousy cars so people don’t buy ’em–and now they’re trying to stick YOU with the bill.

    ~

    Can you dig it?

  6. Dear incoming president Obama and new democratic Congress, please please please take Sperling and Gordon’s advice and see how long you maintain your majority status.

    Heck, go even further and bump the minimum price all the way to four or even five dollars a gallon!

  7. I assume the guy is being sarcastic. Almost the last thing these guys need is $3.50 gas.

  8. Shoulda let Hank Ford bust the union. Course we shoulda let Patton take Moscow too.

    😉

  9. ClubMedSux, I missed that episode, but dam, Simpsons is funny. I know all these youngsters around here think it jumped the shark long ago, but I still think it’s hilarious. Except the Simpsons Movie that is.

  10. TWC,

    A single bad Simpsons episodes is worth more to me than the entire output of that Vortex of Suck, Seth MacFarlane.

    Telling me when to laugh and then begging when I don’t = EPIC FAIL

  11. The problem with the Simpsons is that there will be an entire episode of absolutely unwatchable crap that includes one gem like the one quoted above.

  12. I “got” the headline right off the bat. Local history is fun no matter where you live.

  13. A single bad Simpsons episodes is worth more to me than the entire output of that Vortex of Suck, Seth MacFarlane.

    Such bitterness. You know that he just recently got a $100-million advance from Fox, right?

    I enjoy his work, but I can appreciate the criticisms of it. Especially criticisms involving manatees.

  14. I have no interest in subsidizing the salaries of guys and gals that make more money bolting together crappy cars than a mid-level engineer makes to design flight critical avionics systems.

    Fuck’em all. The sooner the better.

  15. Fox is always two steps forward and three back.

    Also, Fox, stop ordering shows from Joss Whedon if you are only going to show 9 or less of them.

  16. If the price goes above $3.50, then the tax disappears.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAH-HAAAAAAHA….hahahha…ehhh…oooooohhh…that was funny.

    Wait, what?

  17. One way to [fund the bailout] would be to establish a price floor of $3.50 per gallon on gasoline. If the price drops below that, as it recently has, the federal government would impose a variable tax to bring the price up to $3.50. If the price goes above $3.50, then the tax disappears. The money raised by the variable tax would be used, at least in the short term, to provide loan guarantees to the auto companies

    Oh dear God that’s awful. It’s like socialism and protectionism got together and produced some sort of a horrible mutant offspring dedicated to crushing the productive.

  18. Oh, good news: Obama was on 60 Minutes proudly announcing he’s reading a book that extols FDR’s glorious socialist policies. So, you can expect this to become law shortly.

  19. Family Guy is funny in that mindless, pot-smoking, cough-syrup ODing sort of way.

  20. Also, Fox, stop ordering shows from Joss Whedon

    Full stop. We need to get that man his own cable channel or at least have him go completely postal on a senior management meeting of the idiot SciFi channel.

    I mean, do they have a “Director of Cancellation and Ignorance of Shows with Built-in Audiences” or something?

  21. TallDave,
    “Oh dear God that’s awful. It’s like socialism and protectionism got together and produced some sort of a horrible mutant offspring dedicated to crushing the productive.”
    I understand that Satan-worshippers trying to raise the antichrist were involved.

  22. “The tax disappears”
    Sure. And I can transform lead into gold.

  23. this could be the worst idea ever.

  24. We need to get that man his own cable channel or at least have him go completely postal on a senior management meeting of the idiot SciFi channel

    QFT.

    Fox astounds me. “Let’s cancel Firefly, but then order Drive, and then show 4 episodes. That seems like the thing to do!”

    Fucking morons.

  25. The biggest scam about the bailout is the claim that it’s designed to protect the US auto industry.

    It’s not. The aim of the bailout is to protect Big 3 shareholders, the UAW’s contracts, and Big 3 retirees.

    If all 3 of the Big 3 declared bankruptcy tomorrow, they wouldn’t even stop operating. So all the tales of woe about communities that would be destroyed if the bailout doesn’t pass are BS. The Big 3 should declare bankruptcy tomorrow. Their shareholders should be wiped out, their UAW contracts voided, the unfunded portion of their pension plans either lost or turned over to the feds, and their bondholders and creditors should become the new company owners. All 3 companies would emerge from bankruptcy in a position to actually compete in the world marketplace.

  26. We need to get that man his own cable channel or at least have him go completely postal on a senior management meeting of the idiot SciFi channel.

    SciFi Channel? You mean the Channel That Produces Decent TV Pretty Much By Blind Luck? Once BG ends I’d be fine with burnin’ that motherfucker to the ground. When 99% or your original programming can’t stand up to the quality of the 5th season of Sliders, you need to pack up a go the fuck home.

    Whedon would be better off sticking to comic books than to get in bed with those morons.

  27. The central thing to remember about Fox is that Prison Break is still on the air, three years after they broke out of the fucking prison!

  28. Learn to bartend people! Hide your income while you can! Wait . . . I drive a Camaro. Do I pay an added tax or do you guys pay an added tax? Crap!

  29. Economist,

    Barack Obama is not fascist or Marxist. He is Peronist. There is a difference. He is this odd mix of leftist populism combined with crony capitalism whereby the upper middle class and small businesses are taxes out of exist to provide bread and circuses to the lower classes and to pay off the political and connected industrial elite. That combined with a good dose of personality cult is Peronism.

  30. The central thing to remember about Fox is that Prison Break is still on the air, three years after they broke out of the fucking prison!

    It’s like Gilligan’s Island, only backwards!

  31. Fluffy,

    You are exactly right. If it wasn’t about shareholders, creditors and other big wigs and just about the poor workers, the Feds couls assume the retirement liabilities for a a couple of billion in order to soften the impact of bankruptcy.

  32. I am opposed to a bailout, but in favor of raising the gas tax by at least 50 cents or even a dollar a gallon (and straight up, no gimmicks either with variability or with revenue offsets). The arguements 6 months ago against the gas tax holiday (i.e. that it would paradoxically probably raise prices) apply in reverse now.

    And as long as Sci Fi retains their arrangement with the BBC, they’ll always have at least one or two good shows.

  33. “The central thing to remember about Fox is that Prison Break is still on the air, three years after they broke out of the fucking prison!

    It’s like Gilligan’s Island, only backwards!”

    Or Wagon Train where they just kept Wagon training.

  34. The central thing to remember about Fox is that Prison Break is still on the air, three years after they broke out of the fucking prison!

    The central thing to remember about Fox is that 24 is still on. How many times can Bauer save the world, dudes, before it seems a little ridiculous?

  35. Clearly, a price floor on fuel is the best way to help an industry selling inefficient vehicles and getting beaten badly by the maker of the Prius.

    There are good arguments for using fuel taxes to replace other taxes, but I don’t see the argument for using fuel taxes to keep the Big 3 afloat.

  36. John,

    I refuse to believe you meant to be that fucking funny. “Wagon Training”? LMAO!

  37. SciFi Channel? You mean the Channel That Produces Decent TV Pretty Much By Blind Luck? Once BG ends I’d be fine with burnin’ that motherfucker to the ground.

    I did say I wanted him to kill them all.

    What? Not liking Sanctuary? I watch it just to hear the previously endearing Amanda Tapping completely butcher the fake English accent.

    Don’t worry. After they cancel Stargate Atlantis this January, they’ll have a new Stargate franchise show where, ready?, the new cast gets on a Ancient ship that has a pre-programmed route that they can’t change or stop! You never know who’ll get left behind!

    Mind you, I *like* Stargate (not the movie…), but this just. sounds. so. awful. A 3-hour tour….a 3-hour tour….)

  38. The central thing to remember about Fox is that Prison Break is still on the air, three years after they broke out of the fucking prison!

    The root of the problem is the death of DB Cooper at the end of the first season. After dying he was resurrected as a zombie. The zombie ate the writers’ brains. So the show continues.

  39. When 99% or your original programming can’t stand up to the quality of the 5th season of Sliders, you need to pack up a go the fuck home.

    In SciFi’s defense, while most of their original shit is…well, shit, they have been very smart about snapping up stuff that others have passed on. Farscape and Stargate, for example.

  40. Kolohe,

    Raise gas taxes? Making gas more scarce . . . (drifts off into imagination) . . . “I’m just here for the gas.”

  41. “John,

    I refuse to believe you meant to be that fucking funny. “Wagon Training”? LMAO!”

    Before someone else busts me out, I will admit I stole that from a line in Stand By Me. I never liked the movie that much but always loved that line.

  42. After they cancel Stargate Atlantis this January, they’ll have a new Stargate franchise show where, ready?, the new cast gets on a Ancient ship that has a pre-programmed route that they can’t change or stop! You never know who’ll get left behind!

    Please tell me you’re just being super funny and this isn’t the real situation.

  43. Naga-
    I finally saw the middle movie all the way through for the first time last weekend.
    Better start loading up on football shoulder pads.

  44. Please tell me you’re just being super funny and this isn’t the real situation.

    Nope. I wish.

  45. Kolohe,

    Armor up your car while adding a supercharger and start wearing lots of leather. Shoulder pads? Optional. Trained dog and empty sawed off shotgun? Mandatory.

  46. Also, I don’t entire fault the news corp decsions wrt firefly.

    yeah the fox execs mismanaged the timing and order of the rollout. Strong DVD sales indicated they may have had modest success with better scheduling and less corporate micromanaging.

    But the Serenity movie, which wasn’t bad, did absolutely terrible at the box office. Face it, the public was (is?) just not into Star Trek meets Bonanza.

  47. (gives JW a charlie horse for making me know this information)

  48. I will stake out a place as an SF heretic. I do not like:

    Doctor Who (twee)
    Torchwood (bi-curious twee)
    Primeval (“Let’s adapt A Sound of Thunder for TV, not the story, the shitty movie”)
    Stargate (Atlantis or otherwise)
    Fringe (X-Files meets Dawson’s Creek)
    Sanctuary (The Further Adventures of Joan Constantine)

    And Terminator’s on the fucking bubble unless it devlops something resembling a sense of humor.

  49. “Maybe the country would be better off in the long run if we let the Big Three fail, and in the process break the UAW labor monopoly, and then let Toyota, Honda and Volkswagen take over the U.S. auto industry,

    What is the big obstacle to starting a car company in America? If the big 3 fail, why couldn’t a few U.S. start-ups buy some of the assets and make cars?

  50. I’m actually mostly with you, NutraSweet.

    Doctor Who (don’t find it compelling)
    Torchwood (didn’t even bother)
    Primeval (never even heard of it)
    Stargate (SG-1 got really tedious but Atlantis is OK)
    Fringe (totally insipid)
    Sanctuary (awful; watched 15 minutes of the first one and said “fuck this”)

    Terminator I like.

  51. I will stake out a place as an SF heretic.

    Burn him! Burn the non-believer!

    Add Star Trek: TNG and Star Trek: Voyager to your list.

    Dude, it may not be fucking Shakespeare, but Stargate and Dr. Who have some redeeming qualities. Mind you, on Dr. Who, screaming is not one of them. And, SG: Atlantis hasn’t been all that even for the past 2 seasons. Getting rid of Torri Higginson and Paul Whatshisname was plain old stupid. It really is time for cancellation now the producers have botched the show.

    But yeah, most of it I could care less about. I tried to watch Primeval once and was bored to tears. I was rooting for the animals. Never watched Torchwood, but never really wanted to either.

  52. It was all downhil after Lexx.

  53. JW,

    I don’t require Shakespeare, but I do insist on you not insulting my intelligence (and smirking when I object.) Dr. Who and both Stargates = FAIL

    TNG was OK. It was serviceable SF TV, especially if you didn’t try to apply politics to it. Voyager was boring and DS:9 too obsessed with its own mythology to both making sense. (Also, in comic book terms, it went cosmic, and cosmic basically blows. I’m looking at you, David Brin.)

    I am a cranky old fuck. Most of my SF love is from books, and the TV mostly seems like half-retarded kid’s shows in comparison to 99% SF novels.

  54. I’ll join you in your heresy, SF.

  55. It was all downhil after Lexx.

    Ouch. But what about Cleopatra 2525?

  56. Lets not bail them out, the graph shows just how wonky and uncompetitive the big 3 are. they will fail, nothing can stop that. let the free market pick up the pieces and fill the void, yes it will tough for the workers in the short run, but they will find jobs very quickly being skilled workers. maybe in ALA or Tenn or MS where cars are being made now, yes they might have to move, but in the long run it is the right thing to do. no CORP WELEFARE!

  57. [hands Ravac a sambenito and coroza]

  58. P Brooks,

    Thanks for bringing that back up! I LOVED Lexx.

  59. Off topic, but since others went SF. I have to say that Primevil, the BBC series is very good, plus that hot little blonde english lass helps, lol. For the rest mentioned, stargate was good in the begining, just got old, the others mee, don’t like

  60. “What is the big obstacle to starting a car company in America? If the big 3 fail, why couldn’t a few U.S. start-ups buy some of the assets and make cars?”

    There are several startups that are making electrics. Electric cars are pretty close to being real usable cars rather than eco penalty boxes for the followers of the hair shirt religion of global warming. But instead of letting those companies play out and trying to be ahead of the curve, lets spend $25 billion to stay behind it.

  61. One way to [fund the bailout] would be to establish a price floor of $3.50 per gallon on gasoline.

    Big Oil will love that. It basically gives them the option of collecting the tax and keeping it themselves.

  62. Obama was on 60 Minutes proudly announcing he’s reading a book that extols FDR’s glorious socialist policies.

    He hasn’t reached the end where the country was still in a depression after electing FDR three times. But we LIKE depression.

  63. I am a cranky old fuck. Most of my SF love is from books, and the TV mostly seems like half-retarded kid’s shows in comparison to 99% SF novels.

    [smirking]

    True ‘dat. Which is why I don’t apply the standards of books to TV. I *know* SF TV is going to be substandard compared to SF books, excepting BSG of course. You have to manage your expectations or you will be consistently disappointed.

    I liked the irreverent humor of SG-1 and to a lesser degree, Atlantis. But yes, they did (and do) get tedious.

    Even though I never really got into Lexx, I do miss the old SciFi Friday of SG-1, Farscape and Lexx.

    FWIW I watched the DVDs of Space: Above and Beyond and it didn’t age very well.

  64. Xev was HOTT on Lexx!!!

  65. I really wanted to like Fringe. The John Noble character is awesome, for one thing.

    However, it gets pretty tiresome once you realize that the first person appearing in the show who’s not part of the “team” is inevitably going to be a part of the Pattern conspiracy. I’ve seen 4 episodes and I’ve already figured that out.

  66. The problem with the Simpsons is that there will be an entire episode of absolutely unwatchable crap that includes one gem like the one quoted above.

    The gem quoted above is from one of the all-time great episodes.

  67. Carl: What do we want?

    All: More equitable treatment at the hands of management!

    Carl: When do we want it?

    All: Soon!

  68. Homer: Hey, what does this job pay?

    Carl: Nuthin’.

    Homer: D’oh!

    Carl: Unless you’re crooked.

    Homer: Woo-hoo!

  69. I watched the DVDs of Space: Above and Beyond and it didn’t age very well.

    Is it all because BSG does the exact same stuff better (and handles 9 other things at the same time)?

    Frankly, until BSG I didn’t think a “mass” audience had a stomach for serious SF. Post-BSG? I am even more disappointed in the SF TV offerings. Once I know it can be done, I find it inexcusable to see shoes not even try.

  70. “These pre-date stainless steel, so you can’t get them wet.”

  71. Look at them all, through the darkness I’m bringing.
    They’re not sad at all. They’re actually singing!
    They sing without juicers.
    They sing without blenders.
    They sing without flunjers, capdabblers and smendlers!

  72. “to see shoes not even try”

    Sigh. “shows” obviously.

    But lazy fucking footwear’s on the list too.

  73. “From Hell’s heart, I stab at thee!”

  74. these braces are invisible, painless, and periodically release a delightful burst of Calvin Klein’s Obsession… for Teeth.

  75. How many times can Bauer save the world, dudes, before it seems a little ridiculous?

    You would think that, at least once, they would give him 48 or 72 hours notice.

  76. Is it all because BSG does the exact same stuff better (and handles 9 other things at the same time)?

    I think my own age plays a role as well as the some of the effects. While I really enjoyed the show when it was on, it just seems very wooden and stilted now. Good pathos, I liked the McQueen character when he lightened up and maybe if the show had another season or 2, it would have hit a better stride, but such is life. The music was tedious, which I did remember. We only need to hear the martial drums a few times; not EVERY time.

    The AI’s makeup and sound effects comes off as ultra-cheesy, but such is life with TV budgets.

  77. Frankly, until BSG I didn’t think a “mass” audience had a stomach for serious SF. Post-BSG? I am even more disappointed in the SF TV offerings. Once I know it can be done, I find it inexcusable to see shoes not even try.

    It’ll be interesting to see how the Caprica spin-off will fare.

  78. Big Oil will love that. It basically gives them the option of collecting the tax and keeping it themselves.

    Oh, did we forget to mention that the Feds will be setting the price of gasoline too?

  79. It’ll be interesting to see how the Caprica spin-off will fare.

    [cough]Phantom Menace[cough]

  80. Jack Bauer has returned from the dead more times the Jesus and Lazarus combined. Twice. But he’s no match for Stanley Tweedle.

    [ps- Cleopatra 2025 was never on my radar]

  81. shoes not even fry?

    Chaplin did that one, didn’t he?

  82. Jack Bauer has returned from the dead more times the than Jesus and Lazarus combined.

  83. Cleopatra 2025 was never on my radar

    You’re lucky. It made Mutant X look like Sunset Boulevard.

  84. [cough]Phantom Menace[cough]

    Dear god no! JarJar Binks is the 12th model?

  85. “Yousa saysa peoples gonna die?”

    “Yes, you idiot. We’re going to blow up Caprica. Can you at least pay attention at the meetings?”

  86. Cleopatra 2025 was never on my radar

    You’re lucky. It made Mutant X look like Sunset Boulevard.

    God, that show made even Andromeda look watchable. It took Firefly to get me to realize that Gina Torres can be a good performer if given a chance.

  87. Did her appearance on Fastlane change your mind about Jennifer Sky?

  88. You know, I know you’re joking, NutraSweet, yet I’m still reflexively insulted that you would even jokingly imply I would watch a show like that.

  89. Andromeda

    You bastard. I had almost expunged that heinous memory from my mind.

    At least you didn’t mention Earth: The Final Conflict.

  90. Earth: The Final Conflict.

    Was John Travolta in that one?

  91. At least you didn’t mention Earth: The Final Conflict.

    Ah, the show where Majel Barrett-Roddenberry proved that besides not even having the acting chops to play Dianna Troi’s mother, she has zero ability to produce good shows.

  92. Earth: The Final Conflict

    Pitch Meeting:

    “Hey guys, let’s remake V but only with really old Canadian actresses!”

    Of course, that’s pretty much the entire SciFi Channel strategy:

    “Let’s remake [crappy old SF TV show] but only with really old Candadian actresses!”

    BSG was blind fucking luck. They went with a younger, lesbionic Canadian actress. (And, of course, with the divine Grace Park.)

    Tricia Helfer has terrible hair and man jaw. There. I said it.

  93. that show made even Andromeda look watchable.

    I thought for what it was, Hercules in Space, Andomeda wasn’t bad. Yeah, it was a show of limited ambition, but worked with what it had fairly well.

    Speaking of which, what Sci-Fi and (NBC Universal as a whole) is missing is a show like Xena with its good wholesome saphic fun. The Rachel Madow Show is simply not the same thing.

  94. Majel Barrett-Roddenberry

    She couldn’t even do a good impersonal computer voice! A fucking 1985 Mac could do a better acting job than that!

  95. “Yes, you idiot. We’re going to blow up Caprica. Can you at least pay attention at the meetings?”

    Meesa get confuused at deses meetings. Yousa all look da same! Meesa getsa so confuused dat I blowed up da Eart, not dis Caprica! Ouch time!

  96. Tricia Helfer has terrible hair and man jaw.

    Dude. You’re actually looking at her hair and jaw? Now I understand why you drive a CR-V.

  97. Dude. You’re actually looking at her hair and jaw? Now I understand why you drive a CR-V.

    Thank you for pwning him so I didn’t have to.

  98. JW,

    Look. If a woman is going to be created and touted as the ultimate sex-pot, attractive enough to make hundreds of thousands of copies of her, the actress should be better looking than the average washed up catalog model.

    Yes, she’s got a fairly nice rack. But you can match rack with looks easy in Hollywood. I have never understood the utterly average actress playing a role that is suppose to be “beautiful.” Actresses that can act better and look better than Helfer are a dime a dozen.

  99. Uh, NutraSweet, this isn’t rocket science. You can’t please everyone with casting choices, so they decided to go with “striking”–which can even include ugly–instead. It was to make an impact during the advertising and whatnot.

    You need to think like a scumbag producer, dude. You want to save the really hot ones for roles where they fail and come to you for help.

  100. You want to save the really hot ones for roles where they fail and come to you for help.

    Good point. But I remain grumpy.

  101. SugarFree,

    Actresses that can act better and look better than Helfer are a dime a dozen.

    But they needed a few hundred thousand, not just a dozen.

  102. robc,

    That’s only $10,000 per hundred thousand. They spend that much on pancake make-up for Olmos every episode.

  103. Helfer doesn’t do all that much for me, but she does have a tremendous bod and I think her acting chops are very good for the role. Not sure if she could pull off a role that made heavier and more subtle demands, but she nailed the cylon bitch part, as much as Xena did as #3.

    I’m really annoyed at BSG for not going full-frontal with Grace Park. Stop teasing us! It’s basic cable damnit! I’ll buy the uncensored DVD set. Enough!

  104. JW,

    Fuck, yes. That scene of a thousand naked Parks when she was setting the bomb? Bastards. Denying bastards.

  105. My blood’s up. I’m going home and making angry soup.

  106. I really wanted to like Fringe.

    Me, too. I got through two and a half eps, and decided it was too contrived, predictable, and formulaic to waste another pixel on.

  107. Stupid creative writing degree…

    That’s only $10,000 per hundred thousand.

    Fucked that math up spectacularly… only $833 per one hundred thousand.

    I’ll be in my shame corner.

  108. Me, too. I got through two and a half eps, and decided it was too contrived, predictable, and formulaic to waste another pixel on.

    But…but….it’s JJ Abrams! He’s a 1.5 hit wonder!

    This does not bode well for the upcoming Star Trek recycling. It is an odd-numbered film, so the die, evidently, is cast.

  109. I believe I predicted an Obama “fuel price floor tax” before the election on this very blog comments.

  110. SIV,
    He hasn’t actually said he’s going to do it, yet.

  111. economist,

    No but it is on record as proposed Democrat public policy.His opponents should have made him deny it.Energy taxes weren’t even brought up before the election.I thought about them anytime the “tax cut” was promised.

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