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The Dear Leader Gives the Children Candy!

Michael Moynihan | 10.23.2008 4:15 PM

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Via Tina Brown's Daily Beast, an apparently irony-free video featuring a variety of pro-Obama pumpkins, courtesy of the website Yes We Carve. For some reason, I find this video even creepier than the one with those singing robot kids.

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  1. Elemenope   17 years ago

    I don’t know about creepier–personally I don’t think it’s ever a good idea to mix one’s politics with one’s candy–but the side-profile one towards the beginning is nothing if not impressive.

  2. TallDave   17 years ago

    Speaking of carving, anyone else see that Drudge flash?

    Scary, if true.

  3. TallDave   17 years ago

    Ah, there’s a link now:

    http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/17789356/detail.html

    Richard said the robber took $60 from the woman, then became angry when he saw a McCain bumper sticker on the victim’s car. The attacker then punched and kicked the victim, before using the knife to scratch the letter “B” into her face, Richard said.

    Looks like the felon-American community is really taking Obama’s “get in their faces!” exhortations to heart.

  4. Kaganspawn   17 years ago

    I don’t think this Moynihan kid has the intellectual chops to play at Reason. Every time I see his byline it seems to be something sophomoric. Here the point presumably is supposed to be that using kids/songs to sell politics is creepy and propagandistic. Well, there’s nothing there. The market uses kids, cuteness, eroticism or whatever will sell the product. Where’s the critique here? What does this have to do with determining the proper role of government or individual liberty? Does our intrepid cub want to ban propaganda, perhaps?

  5. anarch ben godwin   17 years ago

    02:00 – “We are One People. We are One Nation.”

    00:47 – “It’s the first time I’ve ever been compelled to be part of a movement such as this.”

    Wiki – “One of the Nazis’ most-repeated political slogans was Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein F?hrer – One People, One Empire, One Leader.”

  6. Jordan   17 years ago

    I don’t think this Moynihan kid has the intellectual chops to play at Reason. Every time I see his byline it seems to be something sophomoric. Here the point presumably is supposed to be that using kids/songs to sell politics is creepy and propagandistic. Well, there’s nothing there. The market uses kids, cuteness, eroticism or whatever will sell the product. Where’s the critique here? What does this have to do with determining the proper role of government or individual liberty? Does our intrepid cub want to ban propaganda, perhaps?

    Perhaps this post was mostly tongue-in-cheek? In any case, drink!

  7. Orange Line Special   17 years ago

    Happy Halloween from the Obama-supporting Reason.

  8. Ellen Evans   17 years ago

    Oh, dear. It’s almost enough to make me vote for McCain. If I were registered, that is.

  9. John   17 years ago

    I think anyone who uses the term “chops” to refer to anything that isn’t served at a steakhouse, doesn’t have the intellectual wherewithal to post on Reason. God that is an annoying term.

  10. joe   17 years ago

    You know, I read a story a couple weeks ago about a guy who kidnapped somebody from a sub shop with a realistic looking bb gun because he was wearing an Obama tee shirt, forced him to his knees in an alley, and pretended to execute him.

    I never felt the need to spam the Reason threads with it; but then, my candidate isn’t getting his ass kicked.

  11. Smartass   17 years ago

    Socialists slashing people!

  12. Dave Weigel   17 years ago

    Huh. I was wondering how Fox News would remind people that Obama is a scary black person.

    My best to the woman. It sounds like she made it out OK (“the woman refused medical treatment after the assault”).

  13. joe   17 years ago

    You see, 95% of you, I’ll cut your face.

    Taxes! I’ll cut your taxes!

    Ah, shit.

  14. Kaganspawn   17 years ago

    @Jordan, alas no. @John, too bad the phrasing is not to your liking, but if you think there is something in the post we should care about, let’s hear what it is.

  15. Derrick   17 years ago

    It’s a damn shame that most cute girls are Democrats. Has anyone else noticed that?

  16. TallDave   17 years ago

    I wasn’t going to mention the McCain campaign manager’s house that got shot up, but what the hell.

    http://www.local6.com/politics/17784129/detail.html

  17. Cool Cal   17 years ago

    “Oh, dear. It’s almost enough to make me vote for McCain. If I were registered, that is.”

    Ellen, I think someone needs a talking to from Dustin Hoffman … or Jennifer Aniston, or Laura Linney, or Leonardo DiCaprio …

  18. sage   17 years ago

    I wonder if the ATM camera captured this assault. Seems pretty far-fetched. The guy had his $60; why didn’t he beat feet?

  19. Dave Weigel   17 years ago

    By the way, not every reported hate crime pans out. In my last year at college a latino student claimed he was bashed, then later admitted to cops that he wasn’t.

    http://www.chron.org/tools/viewart.php?artid=758

    It’s best to give this stuff 48 hours to shake out.

  20. Pittsburgh Robber   17 years ago

    This is really unfair. There I am out there working hard, helping Barack spread the wealth around at gunpoint, and this woman has the nerve to put a racist hate speech McCain sticker on her car.

    And when I exercise my freedom of speech by carving a B on her repuke face with my knife, suddenly I’m the bad guy! Sure, blame the victim!

    Man, we really need some hope and change around here.

  21. Mr. Nice Guy   17 years ago

    Kaganspawn

    I think it’s supposed to suggest that Obama is kind of like N. Korea’s leader or something because his supporters are enthusiastic about him and that is like a cult of personality blah blah blah.

    MM’s job is to throw red meat to the right-wingers on H&R. I imagine it’s in response to so many posters constant bitching about Weigel’s “shilling” for the Dems. He’s like an affirmative action hire I guess…

  22. TallDave   17 years ago

    It’s best to give this stuff 48 hours to shake out.

    True, it might not pan out, though women are generally not inclined to disfigure their own faces with a knife.

  23. Smartass   17 years ago

    Meh (old news, but still)

    Means nothing. We’re not a third world country yet. Not even close.

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/13/arkansas.shooting/index.html

  24. joe   17 years ago

    Totaly Not TallDave,

    50.0-42.9 on RCP.

    Better find more stories.

  25. Elemenope   17 years ago

    True, it might not pan out, though women are generally not inclined to disfigure their own faces with a knife.

    You apparently have somehow forgotten that we are still in Silly Season. What people are and are not generally inclined to do is of no use in divining what they *will* do in the next two weeks.

    Anything can happen. I’m telling you, we’ll get some Gangs of New York shit out of this here election before we’re through.

  26. Kaganspawn   17 years ago

    MM’s job is to throw red meat to the right-wingers on H&R.

    I did not get the sense he was a political partisan, only that his posts don’t rate with me. They don’t challenge me or tell me something that interests me. But thanks anyway Nice Guy for not ignoring me in favor of the threadjack about overzealous partisans in this political season.

  27. TallDave   17 years ago

    There are pictures of the girl now. She has a pretty good black eye to go with her new Obama campaign material.

    Fortunately, the damage to her face doesn’t look permanent.

  28. Dave Weigel   17 years ago

    True, it might not pan out, though women are generally not inclined to disfigure their own faces with a knife.

    Yes, no 20-year old who’s depressed about something has ever cut herself.

    I hate that hoaxters make it hard to take these sorts of stories 100% seriously. But they do. I reported on such a hoax four years ago. I’d rather give cops two days to chase down the facts than start saying “Obama said get in people’s faces and then this lady got cut!”

  29. Mr. Nice Guy   17 years ago

    Mr. Horton, paging Mr. Willie Horton!

  30. Mister DNA   17 years ago

    True, it might not pan out, though women are generally not inclined to disfigure their own faces with a knife.

    True, they let plastic surgeons do it for them.

  31. TallDave   17 years ago

    Yes, no 20-year old who’s depressed about something has ever cut herself.

    Obvioously, jackass. They generally don’t cut their faces was my point.

  32. John   17 years ago

    Kingspawn,

    Reason spends a lot of time making fun of people from all over the political spectrum. Certainly when the right does something creepy or stupid Reason calls them out for it. A think the strange behavior among Obama supporters ought to be ridiculed. Strange behavior in other political contexts certainly is and Obama supporters would certainly be having a cow if people were doing this for McCain. If Obama supporters don’t like to be called a cult and Obamabots, then they should stop acting stupid.

  33. Mr. Nice Guy   17 years ago

    I’d be curious as to what point TallDave thinks his story makes?

    I’m not sure it makes any point other than bad black man supports black man running for Prez.

    I imagine there are bad black men out there that would like to see the black guy get the win, yes. I imagine that there are neo-Nazi’s who would like to see the white guy get the win. I’m not sure what this says about the black and white guy that are running though.

  34. Mr. Gompers, what do the union   17 years ago

    The guy had his $60; why didn’t he beat feet?

    Samuel Gompers: “More.”

  35. TallDave   17 years ago

    Aaaaand the race gets played.

  36. TallDave   17 years ago

    race card*

  37. Gompers   17 years ago

    I resemble that remark. Blame photo sepia!

  38. TallDave   17 years ago

    Certainly when the right does something creepy or stupid Reason calls them out for it.

    Didn’t we get like three posts referencing a video of stupid McCain supporters saying stupid things?

    I’d say taking a knife to a woman’s face to express support for Obama trumps that pretty easily.

  39. ChrisO   17 years ago

    You don’t have to be a raging conservative to be creeped out by the cult of personality exhibited by the Obamabots. Makes me think of Huey Long.

    Ultimately, of course, this will simply lead to huge disappointment in the next couple of years if he is elected and inevitably turns out to be just another hack.

    The U.S. president shouldn’t have enough power to have a cult of personality formed around him/her.

  40. Mr. Nice Guy   17 years ago

    ChrisO
    Cult of personality and the presidency goes togethe a lot I’m afraid. Did you see Jesus Camp (where they prayed to a card board cut-out of W?)? Reagan certainly had a cult of personality, as did Clinton among blacks I’d say.

    “Aaaaand the race gets played.”

    Yeah, at 4:33

  41. Mr. Nice Guy   17 years ago

    “Didn’t we get like three posts referencing a video of stupid McCain supporters saying stupid things?

    I’d say taking a knife to a woman’s face to express support for Obama trumps that pretty easily.”

    Wasn’t the former at an official McCain/Palin rally? I think that’s a distinction with a difference.

  42. Jacob Brownwood   17 years ago

    These people cannot utter the word “individual”. From here on out, it’s all “us”, “we”, and, the scariest of all, “unity”. These people are the most socialist non-socialists i have seen.

  43. Paul   17 years ago

    Man, he’s got a lot of support from the clean-cut white folks.

  44. R C Dean   17 years ago

    You know, I read a story a couple weeks ago . . . .

    linky, joe, linky.

  45. Warty   17 years ago

    This reminds me: I hate white people.

  46. Mike   17 years ago

    Oh come on, TD.

    You were bluffing the race card the whole time.

  47. TallDave   17 years ago

    If you’ll notice, the 4:33 post says nothing about race.

    Wasn’t the former at an official McCain/Palin rally? I think that’s a distinction with a difference

    True, but it involved 100% fewer knives to the face.

  48. Orange Line Special   17 years ago

    Don’t blame Reason too much, they just watched this one too many times (my BHO HypnoVideoSatire).

    On a somewhat related note, BHO lied yet again. Remember during the last “debate” when he discussed threats made against him? He knew they both were bogus.

  49. Orange Line Special   17 years ago

    The One has spoken:

    “This is a horrendous act of violence. Our thoughts and prayers are with the young woman for her to make a speedy recovery, and we hope that the person who perpetrated this crime is swiftly apprehended and brought to justice.”

    Anyone notice what’s missing?

  50. bigbigslacker   17 years ago

    don’t know about creepier–personally I don’t think it’s ever a good idea to mix one’s politics with one’s candy–but the side-profile one towards the beginning is nothing if not impressive.

    My brother used a John Kerry stencil last year. It came out looking EXACTLY like Hitler! Wish I had a picture.

  51. YesWeCarve!   17 years ago

    TallDave | October 23, 2008, 4:33pm | #
    Ah, there’s a link now:

    http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/17789356/detail.html

    Richard said the robber took $60 from the woman, then became angry when he saw a McCain bumper sticker on the victim’s car. The attacker then punched and kicked the victim, before using the knife to scratch the letter “B” into her face, Richard said.

    Looks like the felon-American community is really taking Obama’s “get in their faces!” exhortations to heart.

    TallDave FTW!

  52. capelza   17 years ago

    “Richard said the woman refused medical treatment after the assault, which happened outside the view of the bank’s surveillance cameras.”

    Bill Gwatney…maybe.

    What’s really weird is the “B” on her face is backwards..looking at the picture at “Hot Air”

    Tawana Brawley, maybe…

    As for the pumpkins, “Dear Leader”,,,aahhhh…someone lost their kandy korn.

  53. Elemenope   17 years ago

    Anyone notice what’s missing?

    OK, I’ll bite.

    What’s missing, LoneWacko? Please tell me.

  54. Potts   17 years ago

    Where’s Moynihan’s post about the creepy cornfield Sarah?

    Or this?

    People do stupid shit to support their candidate. Get over it.

  55. TallDave   17 years ago

    My brother used a John Kerry stencil last year. It came out looking EXACTLY like Hitler! Wish I had a picture.

    Rofl. Also, Godwin!

  56. bigbigslacker   17 years ago

    Elemenope, I think he’s refering to what yeswecarve! posted – that Barack told his dumbass supporters they need to get in people’s faces and act like the animals they are. Something like that. Could be wrong.

  57. bigbigslacker   17 years ago

    ^^^that was not supposed to come out raciss.

  58. Dave Weigel   17 years ago

    I don’t get the problem with the “get in their faces” thing. Supporters aren’t supposed to hector and canvass and win votes? Really?

  59. LGF Fan   17 years ago

    The Pittsburgh mugging will be the turning point!

    MCCAIN SURGE!!!

  60. Hogan   17 years ago

    a) on Potts’ post, the cindy mccain is by far the creepiest jackolantern

    b)to capelza, not saying the whole story is definitely legit, cuz obviously i dunno any more than the next person, but the upside down b could easily result from her being on the ground and him being behind her head.

  61. John C. Randolph   17 years ago

    It’s a damn shame that most cute girls are Democrats. Has anyone else noticed that?

    Younger women tend to be more attractive than older women. Younger people are more likely to have leftist leanings.

    -jcr

  62. Hogan   17 years ago

    sorry, der, backwards b

  63. X   17 years ago

    Moynihan’s talent seems confined to “exposing” the wacky, irrelevant left-wing fringe. It’s very light on anything that could be properly called “ideas.” I’m so glad I can come to Reason and see heroic conservatives bashing liberal strawmen – the Biased Mainstream Media has deprived us of that pleasure. Hussein!

  64. ACORN Stormtrooper   17 years ago

    Watch out, Republicans!

    Sometime in late January, after Obama’s taken office, he’ll release the internet information of the conservatrolls to “Kool Aid Teams” of volunteers. They’ll wait until you’re sleeping or in a parking lot, and then hit you with bats and tire irons (no guns, of course!) until your arms and legs are broken, then they’ll very carefully carve a ‘B’ with a paper clip on your cheek so it doesn’t break the skin. Even as we speak, special teams of trainees are going to surgical school to learn how to do precision cutting so we won’t break the skin with a resisting opponent. You know how we Liberals are, can’t stand the sight of blood.

    You’ve been WARNED! HUSSEIN!

  65. Orange Line Special   17 years ago

    What’s missing is BHO telling his supporters not to do such things. Really, try to reverse everything in your mostly wee minds: at this point in time, McCain would have already sacrificed two goats on the AltarOfPoliticalCorrectness as well as introduced a bill to drive several red states out of the Union.

    For the slacker who was on the right track as well as the person who asked, I have a special treat, candycorn. Don’t worry, it’s a special caramel coating. (Sorry)

  66. joe   17 years ago

    Linky, RC?

    Well, here’s one story about someone being assaulted with a gun for wearing an Obama shirt for you – although the author has his own theory.

    http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/negroid-wearing-barack-obama-t-529587.html

    Not the one I read about though. Lemme see what I can find.

  67. capelza   17 years ago

    Hogan…I thought of that, but she had to be laying perfectly still to bet that clear a “B”…and look at her “shiner”…no swelling and the white of her eye is clear..no blood. I’ve had an eye or two blackened, and they were never that tidy.

    Something is fishy…

  68. nebby   17 years ago

    Isn’t saying you want the guy caught and to go to jail a pretty direct rebuke of his actions?

    Did you want him to say “Please don’t cut people’s faces”, is that really necessary in your world?

  69. ACORN Stomrtrooper   17 years ago

    We’re just that good at carving, capelza.

    HEIL HUSSEIN!

  70. joe   17 years ago

    What’s missing is BHO telling his supporters not to do such things.

    And how many times have you told your anti-immigrant readers not to commit violent acts, Wacko?

  71. BDB   17 years ago

    Is this really all they have left?

  72. MSM   17 years ago

    We’ll handle this in the usual way.Front page national news for the racially motivated attack and buried in the Pittsburg newspaper local section if it proves to be a hoax. Bwaaaaaaaaa!!

  73. joe   17 years ago

    Is this really all they have left?

    Of course not. That tape of Michelle Obama ranting about “whitey” is going to be coming out any minute now.

  74. NotTallDave   17 years ago

    McCain’s campaign has been just like Iraq–a strategic MASTERSTROKE!

  75. TallDave   17 years ago

    I don’t get the problem with the “get in their faces” thing. Supporters aren’t supposed to hector and canvass and win votes? Really?

    Because if McCain said it, he’d instantly be blamed for every offensive thing any Republican did.

    Sheesh, this from the guy who pimped the McCain rally video.

  76. Mr. Nice Guy   17 years ago

    “Colorado 50.4 45.0 Obama +5.4
    Ohio 49.7 43.7 Obama +6.0
    Florida 47.8 45.8 Obama +2.0
    Nevada 49.3 46.0 Obama +3.3
    Missouri 48.0 45.3 Obama +2.7
    North Carolina 49.2 47.2 Obama +2.0
    Virginia 51.5 44.5 Obama +7.0 ”

    These are the RCP latest numbers for battleground states. Given that Obama’s support is from groups with historically lower turnout, the possible Bradley effect and the Kohut Lacunia I’d say it’s anybody’s ballgame or more likely Obama losing.

    If Obama loses while the Dems make gains in the house and senate I hope there will be some big time hard thinking on the part of the idealistically naive left wing of the party.

  77. TallDave   17 years ago

    BTW, Drudge has the picture now.

  78. joe   17 years ago

    And when he wins, MNG, it’s going lead you to think, what?

  79. joe   17 years ago

    TallDave | March 31, 2008, 10:59am | #

    The problem for Obama is that he’s considerably further from the center than McCain, and with a late August nomination it’s going to be hard for him to tack toward the center in time to win.

    The Wright thing barely scratches the surface of his vulnerability from the right.

  80. TallDave   17 years ago

    I’d say it’s anybody’s ballgame or more likely Obama losing.

    Oh, I still think the MSM can drag him across the finish lines, knife-wielding supporters and all. He’s got huge amounts of voter fraud and credit card fraud going for him too.

    It’s nice to see the Chicago Machine going national. Really makes me proud of the hometown.

  81. Kant feel Pietzsche   17 years ago

    You heard it here first:

    PUMPKINS ARE FOR OBAMA!

    also, ACORN squash came out in support today… while in other news, Zuchinni throw their weight behind the McCain/Palin ticket.

  82. Kant feel Pietzsche   17 years ago

    The majority of Butternut squash are apparently still undecided.

  83. BDB   17 years ago

    John is right. If the Republicans really eat the furniture, all they’re doing is giving him cover to move to the center. If they really wanted to bring down his Presidency, they’d try to contain the insanity so the leftist base will get angry at him rather than defending him out of instinct because the Republicans are going apeshit.

  84. joe   17 years ago

    I’ve never heard the phrase “drag him across the finish line” used in reference to someone with a double digit lead.

    The best part of this election is watching the people who are counting on racist voters to save them make asses of themselves.

  85. BDB   17 years ago

    Joe-

    TallDave is repeating the latest Mark Steyn column from NRO. Really. He used the phrase “drag him across the finish line” today, too. It’s amazing, I tell you. The message discipline!

  86. BDB   17 years ago

    IOW, “drag him across the finish line” is the new “flat footed”.

  87. MAX HATS   17 years ago

    It’s a damn shame that most cute girls are Democrats. Has anyone else noticed that?

    All this talk about the “health of the mother” (air quotes) got bitches confused. I mean look at Palin. She’s an inspiration. She shows that if you just wink and flirt and dress pretty, you too can succeed.

  88. TallDave   17 years ago

    Of course, the best part of all this is we’ll soon find out whether the victim has any outstanding tax liens or questionable licensing.

    The American people have a sacred right to know!

  89. MAX HATS   17 years ago

    Oh, I still think the MSM can drag him across the finish lines, knife-wielding supporters and all. He’s got huge amounts of voter fraud and credit card fraud going for him too.

    You know, when I retreat into fantasyland, it usually involves a lot more sex and a lot less voter fraud – but hey, to each his own.

  90. Kant feel Pietzsche   17 years ago

    capelza | October 23, 2008, 6:06pm | #

    What’s really weird is the “B” on her face is backwards..

    See, what we have hear is another oppressed minority failed by the education system. He makes his S’s backwards too.

  91. Kant feel Pietzsche   17 years ago

    F**K! hear=here

  92. joe   17 years ago

    TallDave | March 18, 2008, 4:14pm | #

    joe,

    LMAO You still don’t get it.

    You sit here mouthing racial pieties about how we’re finally going to make progress, etc, etc — while your candidate’s campaign is crumbling precisely because he chose to closely associate himself with someone who was “whipping up racial animus.”

    Irony and hilarity seldom meet so convivially.

  93. joe   17 years ago

    Seven months later, he’s spamming threads with stories about scary black guys.

  94. BDB   17 years ago

    $5 we get a post about affirmative action soon.

  95. TallDave   17 years ago

    Oh look, socialists!

    Heh. Blank spaces are funny.

  96. BDB   17 years ago

    Can someone find a post about Iraq made by TallDave, from 2003? Please?

  97. TallDave   17 years ago

    Huh. I was wondering how Fox News would remind people that Obama is a scary black person.

    Wow, and I thought you were a jackass before.

    Can we please have Virginia back?

  98. TallDave   17 years ago

    Yes We Carve.

    Haha, I just noticed that. Too appropriate.

  99. -   17 years ago

    March 18, 2008

    Wasn’t that around the time Obama was losing most of the final primary races?

  100. Mr. Nice Guy   17 years ago

    I only count Obama as having a state if he has a >5% lead.

  101. BDB   17 years ago

    I found one!

    joe | May 23, 2008, 9:56pm | #

    Now, Sistani and Sadr are meeting.

    Sadr, who conditioned his agreement to disarm on Sistani, who never directed him to.

    Great. Things are about to get a lot worse.

    Oh, wait, that was joe.

  102. TallDave   17 years ago

    Hmmm, there’s some skepticism on the woman. We’ll see if it pans out. A couple days and we should know.

    She’d have to be pretty crazy to beat herself up, but who knows.

  103. Mr. Nice Guy   17 years ago

    I guess I will be accused of swift boating this girl, and I personally hate to be so cynical when we are talking about victims of what, if true, is certainly a despicable act by a cowardly jerk, but from only looking at the picture I am curious about the “B” scar. I agree it does look pretty straight. Are there stiches? I’m having trouble wrapping my mind around that getting there the way it is said to get there. I mean, I guess it is plausible (who knows how the guy was standing relative to her, maybe he ordered her to “stay still”, etc).

    The fact that his happened to happen NOT to one of the thousands upon thousands of people who simply have a McCain sticker and support him but instead to a young college republican activist that is active in the McCain campaign makes me reserve judgment on it for now. And she declined medical help?

    The story mentions a video camera, I’d like to see that tape big time.

  104. Mr. Nice Guy   17 years ago

    Talldave, if it IS a hoax you should really self-exile yourself from human contact for a few weeks.

    If only to let yourself “air out” a bit…

  105. BDB   17 years ago

    If it’s a hoax it will sort itself out. People really need to quit playing amateur detective on the internet (remember the birth certificate stuff, and Palin’s pregnancy?) it usually doesn’t end well for the person doing it.

  106. Mr. Nice Guy   17 years ago

    BDB
    Oh agreed, there is no fucking way we can find out from here. I’m speculating out loud.

  107. BDB   17 years ago

    Anyway random supporters doing horrible acts (whether it’s this or people spray painting “nigger” on the sides of Obama HQ, or what have you) says a whole lot more about them than it does about the campaign they’re “supporting”.

  108. BDB   17 years ago

    Ok, nevermind, even Malkin is saying it’s fake.

    I think it’s safe to call it “hoax” now.

  109. Elemenope   17 years ago

    Turns out it’s not a person with a McCain bumper sticker. It’s a McCain Campaign Volunteer.

    Huh. Wonder what that means.

  110. joe   17 years ago

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

    B is for Brawley.

  111. joe   17 years ago

    Wait a second:

    If B is for Brawley, then that would make TallDave…?

  112. BDB   17 years ago

    Free Republic says she’s lying.

    Yeah.

    Wo ist TallDave?

  113. BDB   17 years ago

    I think MNG gave good advice.

  114. Beacon of Truth   17 years ago

    You know, these sorts of threads always involve a lot of, “Ooooh, you’re so biased. Why don’t you do the exact same thing to the other side? Huh?! I knew it you’re a [commie leftist, pinko tree-hugger|crypto-fascist right wing looney].”

    Guess what, people. In the real world, things aren’t always fair and balanced. It’s not a matter of bias. It’s just that we don’t always have time to present both sides of every issue in an easily accessible, point-counterpoint fashion.

    Get over it.

    That is all. This thread has grown tiresome.

  115. joe   17 years ago

    October 23, 2008: The Battle of the Daves.

    TallDave | October 23, 2008, 4:33pm | #

    Ah, there’s a link now:

    http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/17789356/detail.html

    Richard said the robber took $60 from the woman, then became angry when he saw a McCain bumper sticker on the victim’s car. The attacker then punched and kicked the victim, before using the knife to scratch the letter “B” into her face, Richard said.

    Looks like the felon-American community is really taking Obama’s “get in their faces!” exhortations to heart.

    Dave Weigel | October 23, 2008, 4:57pm | #

    By the way, not every reported hate crime pans out. In my last year at college a latino student claimed he was bashed, then later admitted to cops that he wasn’t.

    http://www.chron.org/tools/viewart.php?artid=758

    It’s best to give this stuff 48 hours to shake out.

    One of these Daves is a shill, who allows partisan wishful thinking to interfere with his ability to accurately distinguish and understand the truth.

    One of them is not.

  116. VM   17 years ago

    TallDave – bist da?

    wo bist Du?

  117. NotTallDave   17 years ago

    DRAG HIM ACROSS THE FINISH LINE!

  118. BDB   17 years ago

    $5 TallDave says something about Dan Rather.

  119. TallDave   17 years ago

    Talldave, if it IS a hoax you should really self-exile yourself from human contact for a few weeks.

    Shrug. I said it might be fake, however the socialists mischaracterize me. If it’s true, it’s obviously newsworthy. If it’s fake… well, still waiting for the apology from the reporter who made the “Kill him!” claim that the Secret Service debunked.

    Right-wing hoaxes generally don’t make it far, as they don’t have an army of Dan Rathers to push them.

    Malkin is suspicious but did not say it was fake, she just said it looked odd. And it does. It would also be very odd if she did this to herself. Right now, the latter seems more odd, but we’ll know more after the re-interviews.

  120. TallDave   17 years ago

    Oh well, let the socialists play their “hate TallDave” games.

    Kind of flattering how they spend half their posts on me.

    Anyways, I have a pretty girl and a Corvette, and not much time left with the top down this year.

  121. joe   17 years ago

    I said it might be fake, however the socialists mischaracterize me.

    Orly?

    Looks like the felon-American community is really taking Obama’s “get in their faces!” exhortations to heart.

  122. BDB   17 years ago

    BDB | October 23, 2008, 8:20pm | #
    $5 TallDave says something about Dan Rather.

    TallDave | October 23, 2008, 8:21pm | #
    Right-wing hoaxes generally don’t make it far, as they don’t have an army of Dan Rathers to push them.

    Literally a minute later.

  123. joe   17 years ago

    Right-wing hoaxes generally don’t make it far, as they don’t have an army of Dan Rathers to push them.

    See, I was going for “Al Sharpton,” but I guess you can make a case that you’re Dan Rather, too.

    Oh, btw – the African guy in London who got shot three times with an air pistol for wearing an Obama shirt? Not debunked.

    Kind of flattering how they spend half their posts on me. I know the feeling, except the part about getting caught out like this.

    Anyways, I have a pretty girl and a Corvette… Ma, bring my dinner down here, I’m playing Matchbox cars!

  124. Reason Board Monitor   17 years ago

    $100 BDB and joe say something about TallDave.

  125. Reason Board Monitor   17 years ago

    Boom! I win!

  126. joe   17 years ago

    Gee, you sure you want to stick your neck out like that? We’ve only been mocking him for hours.

  127. MAX HATS   17 years ago

    *****BREAKING*****

    A MEMO FROM COMRADE SCHMIDT, CHAIRMAN OF MINISTER OF INFORMATION, AGITPROP COMMITTEE

    Comrades, in our Glorious Struggle against the international forces of the proletariat TERRORR, it is now neccessary to refer to our opposition as socialists.

  128. BDB   17 years ago

    I’m waiting for a SpecialStatement from OLS, too.

  129. joe   17 years ago

    Hey, BDB, did you catch this on fivethirtyeight.com?

    The day before, in McCain’s Loudoun Regional Victory Center in Sterling, VA, we stopped by the office immediately after our Falls Church Obama visit. A full-time volunteer had just papered the office walls with GOTV shift lists, and all were empty except two names on one day. It was 5 pm, and the office was closing. Six of one, half dozen of the other, as it only held one lonely phonebanker who complained to us about ACORN and the media.

    Ha ha!

  130. BDB   17 years ago

    Yeah I saw that. Somehow it doesn’t surprise me.

  131. Orange Line Special   17 years ago

    Somewhat on the actual topic of this post, yet another airhead has joined the cult with his own video.

    Please, help me help you make it go viral! As you’ll see, I especially urge you to send it to all those who are deeply religious, especially those familiar with Revelations.

  132. BDB   17 years ago

    I have been getting about three robo calls a day from the McCain campaign, though.

    Did you know Barack Obama puts Hollywood ahead of AMERICA?

  133. Reason Board Monitor   17 years ago

    We’ve only been mocking him for hours.

    Not very effectively, sadly. Mostly you just look petty.

  134. Mister DNA   17 years ago

    Well, since so many predictions are coming true in this thread, I predict that at any moment, Scarlett Johansson and Diane Neal are going to bust down my door and demand a three way.

    Oh, and OLS, there is no book of “Revelations” in the Bible. It’s a singular Revelation. That’s a pet peeve of mine… they’re always doing that in movies, saying “Revelations” in a serious vouce, meant to impress others with their knowledge of scripture…

  135. Kolohe   17 years ago

    Man, here I thought the calls to the local talk radio host about the Obama Birth Certificate Suit would be the most retarded thing I would exposed to all day.

  136. joe   17 years ago

    Hollywood?

    What the hell does Hollywood have to do with anything?

  137. Mister DNA   17 years ago

    also, it’s voice, not vouce.

  138. BDB   17 years ago

    “Hollywood?

    What the hell does Hollywood have to do with anything?”

    You got me there. That was the whole robo call, really. “I’m so-and-so from the John McCain campaign, and YO NEED TO KNOW that Barack Obama puts HOLLYWOOD before AMERICA”. That was all, no further explanation.

    There’s another one I got where Rudy Giuliani tells me I need to know that “Barack Obama opposes mandatory sentencing for drug users”. Oh, that’s sure to swing MY vote!

  139. joe   17 years ago

    So, to get off the McCain supporter in western Pennsylvania:

    How about Obama supporters in western Pennsylvania? What are they up to?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QIGJTHdH50

  140. Mister DNA   17 years ago

    Damnit.

    David Johansen and Diane Keaton busted down my door, demanding directions to the freeway.

    Oh well, I was close.

  141. joe   17 years ago

    The McCain campaign is so effing lame.

    They’re going to run against Hollywood? Like Dan Quayle? Now?

    They think people are out there are worried about Hollywood?

    What is wrong with these people?

  142. Mr. Nice guy   17 years ago

    Hey, if it were Diane Keaton from her Annie Hall days I would not be displeased at all…

  143. Mr. Nice Guy   17 years ago

    joe
    What else are they going to say? That they are the ones to take it to CEO compensation? The GOP has no ideas that appeal to people in the current situation, so attacks is all they have…

  144. BDB   17 years ago

    My theory is hes sticking it to the Republican Party for what they did to him in 2000.

  145. Mister DNA   17 years ago

    I’m so-and-so from the John McCain campaign, and YO NEED TO KNOW that Barack Obama puts HOLLYWOOD before AMERICA”

    Unfortunately, a $700 Billion bailout of the movie industry doesn’t seem all that ridiculous.

  146. JB   17 years ago

    Weigel, why don’t you move to somewhere in America-land? You know, maybe some place where people know the normal usage of “get in someone’s face”.

  147. Schempf   17 years ago

    I can’t wait for the BHO presidency. It should help reduce the screams that America is a racist society and the notion that feelings can solve our problems.

  148. Orange Line Special   17 years ago

    Schempf: I note an undercurrent of hostility and racism in your comment. Thankfully, I have access to a beta version of Barack Obama’s Neighbor2Neighbor program, so I signed you up. (Note: the rumors about Reason helping with that program are completely false and I must deny them in the most stringent terms possible. Do not believe those internet rumors!)

  149. TallerDave   17 years ago

    Did anyone catch that radio broadcast just now? Scary if true, apparently alien spacecraft have landed in New Jersey. Looks like word has already gotten out about Obama’s loose borders and amnesty-for-all aliens policies.

  150. TallerDave   17 years ago

    nevermind, Karl Rove told Steve Schmidt to tell Hugh Hewitt to tell K. Lo to tell me that my source may have been drunk.

  151. joe   17 years ago

    The GOP has no ideas that appeal to people in the current situation, so attacks is all they have…

    OK, fine, but Hollywood?

    Everything they thought they had is a dud.

    They thought they could make the country jump with race panics and accusations of treason, and those don’t work anymore.

    This is a better country, because of Barack Obama’s campaign. It’s gotten better before our eyes, and it’s what’s going on in the Richard Trumka video I keep linking to that shows it happening.

  152. prolefeed   17 years ago

    This is a better country, because of Barack Obama’s campaign.

    HAHAHA! Democratic partisans are so cute before they grow up and get all disillusioned, yeah?

  153. X   17 years ago

    The Obama Administration will likely be a disaster. He’s riding in on a cloud of charisma, and I don’t think ANYONE could reap the post-Bush whirlwind and come out looking good. That means in about 100 days we’ll have a chorus of disillusioned lefties joining the loathsome, pathetic whining we’re already getting from conservatives. Whupee.

  154. I finally figured out what Ach   17 years ago

    In an interview on NBC Nightly News that aired Thursday, host Brian Williams asked Palin: “Governor, are you a feminist?”

    “I’m not gonna label myself anything, Brian,” she responded. “And I think that’s what annoys a lot of Americans, especially in a political campaign, is to start trying to label different parts of America different, different backgrounds, different ? I’m not going to put a label on myself. ”

    But Palin gave a different answer in September when Katie Couric of CBS News asked her, “Do you consider yourself a feminist?”

    “I do,” Palin answered.

  155. Turtles   17 years ago

    Obama doesn’t scare me. It’s his whacked out supporters, apologists, and drones, all with blinders on who scare me. Including some posters above.

  156. Turtles   17 years ago

    Obama supporters = cutters.

  157. joe   17 years ago

    HAHAHA! Democratic partisans are so cute before they grow up and get all disillusioned, yeah?
    ‘
    Even if Barack Obama suck as a president, this country will have still gone through this campaign. We will have seen Helms/Southern Strategy/TallDave style race-baiting as a political strategy fail miserably, for the first time in American history.

    We will have had activists and organizers like Richard Trumka calling out his own people and helping the country work through its original sin.

    We’ve already seen African-Americans have their “Holy shit, he can win!” moment.

    Try to get past your partisan blinders, prolefeed. There’s something more important going on.

  158. joe   17 years ago

    Yeah yeah yeah, you hate liberals. You hate “lefties.” You hate “socialists.” You hate unions. You hate Democrats.

    Watch this video, and see if you can figure out why I keep posting it on a site frequented by people who hate liberals, lefties, socialists, unions, and Democrats.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QIGJTHdH50

  159. BDB   17 years ago

    “TallerDave | October 23, 2008, 10:59pm | #
    Did anyone catch that radio broadcast just now? Scary if true, apparently alien spacecraft have landed in New Jersey. Looks like word has already gotten out about Obama’s loose borders and amnesty-for-all aliens policies.”

    HAHAHA!

  160. BDB   17 years ago

    One bad thing to come out of this campaign is now after both Mondale/Ferraro and McCain/Palin, there’s going to be the myth of a “curse” if a woman is on the ticket. A “curse” that leads to a landslide loss. I can hear Chris Matthews yammering about it already.

  161. joe   17 years ago

    And Hillary.

    Of course, that’s grossly unfair. The Democrats lost in 1984? The Republicans in 2008? Must be that woman VP.

    But since when has that ever stopped the cable noozies?

  162. BDB   17 years ago

    “Of course, that’s grossly unfair. The Democrats lost in 1984? The Republicans in 2008? Must be that woman VP.

    But since when has that ever stopped the cable noozies?”

    Yeah, like I said, can’t you just hear Chris Matthews talking about the “woman curse” already if someone picks a female VP in 2012 or 2016?

    The real reason is of course that both the 84 Democrats and 08 Republicans picked a female because they needed something, anything, to shake up the race they were losing.

  163. BDB   17 years ago

    Hillary didn’t lose the primary in a landslide though. She came very close to winning.

  164. joe   17 years ago

    Tweety got some gender issues.

    Remember when he used to speculate about which Republicans have a manly scent?

  165. BDB   17 years ago

    Yeah. I think Chris Matthews is one example where someone really does hate Palin mostly because she’s a woman.

  166. R C Dean   17 years ago

    Yeah. I think Chris Matthews is one example where someone really does hate Palin mostly because she’s a woman.

    Hard to say what, if anything is going on in Mr. Thrill-Up-My-Leg’s head, but I’ve always assumed his hostility to Palin is of a piece with the rest of the coastal elites.

    “She’s just not one of us, dahling.”

  167. BDB   17 years ago

    RC–

    He really hated Hillary Clinton, too, and she’s part of the “coastal elite”.

  168. BDB   17 years ago

    And he hated Hillary long before anyone even knew who Barack Obama was, extending back into the 1990s.

  169. joe   17 years ago

    Matthews is like David Brooks and Rich Lowry – one of those guys who idealizes the “noble savages” in red states, and talks about how much more authentic they are than blue states. He’s famous for his division of the country into “John Wayne states” and “Jane Fonda states.” He spent the entire primary campaign talking about Barack Obama not being able to “close the deal” with “regular folks.”

    But he doesn’t like Sarah Palin, so therefore, it’s because he dislikes red staters.

    There is a cultish faith behind the media theories of the right, one that dictates everything they see.

  170. BDB   17 years ago

    Apparently police are making the woman submit to a polygraph test because her story doesn’t add up. Fail.

  171. Mo   17 years ago

    Dave,

    Apparently, the police don’t believe her:

    Police planned to administer a polygraph test to Ashley Todd, 20, because her statements about the attack conflict with evidence from the Citizens Bank ATM where she claims the incident occurred, police said.

  172. joe   17 years ago

    It’s the writing on herself that’s the tipoff.

    Tawana Brawley wrote on herself, too.

  173. BDB   17 years ago

    So did Morton Downey, Jr. He said he was attacked by white supremacists who carved a swastika in his face, but it came out backwards because he did it in the mirror.

  174. Hey joe   17 years ago

    Maybe you could “educate” workers about the GREAT reasons for them to vote against Barack Obama. Let them know that jobs are lost when the minimum wage goes up, or when unions strongarm employers. Or show them this:

    http://www.paulgraham.com/gap.html

  175. joe   17 years ago

    I don’t need to educate low-income workers about Barack Obama.

    They’re one of his strongest voting blocks. I think it’s the insurance thing, but the blatant disrespect with which they’ve been treated by Republicans is a good explanation, too.

  176. guy in the back row   17 years ago

    bama supporters = cutters.

    Is this a reference to the Stirling books? I’m on the new one, it’s great!

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