Further Adventures Down the Rabbit Hole

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The "Michelle Obama tape" rumor mill started churning a lot more slowly this weekend, a development that, I'm sure, had nothing to do with Hillary Clinton's exit from the race. It would be odd if Clinton supporters were only spreading the rumor to keep superdelegates on the fence before it was too late, wouldn't it?

Never fear: The thickly-populated Hillary diehard fever swamps are ready to keep this going. Ex-Hillary Supporters for John McCain, a site apparently designed by people who went into cryogenic freeze in 1994, has a new version of the story.

I heard about 2 minutes of her ranting at Bill Clinton and Hillary over the phone… it is a DVD, I only heard the audio part, they would not send me a sample. I understand that it is over 30 minutes long some of it had been edited. From what I was told, this will make every white American angry.

This is pretty convenient, as the last rumor revolved around a "30-minute rant" at a two-hour event where Obama wasn't even a speaker. But if it's edited for length? Sure!

The tape was made at the conference in June or July of 2004. It was of a conference at the Trinty church. Louis Farrahkan wife was there as was her body guards, who taped the event.

Another departure from Larry Johnson's "breaking news" from one week ago, that Louis Farrakhan himself was on the tape. Commenters are led to ask when this tape is being limited to VP listening sessions over the phone, instead of a confetti-and-fireworks rollout. The answer, of course, is that black people are terrifying.

Doug Wilder, former governor of Va or WV, I cannot remember [ed- it was Virginia], said on more than one occasion, "If Obama does not get the nomination, then all blacks will consider it stole from Obama, and the riots of 1968 will be nothing compared to those of 2008." More than just this leader has made those statements. The person that has the DVD is afraid to release it before the date they have set. They do not want to be the person that started the riots. This person feels that all the thugs are waiting on is a reason to start and destroy this country.

Robert George has established the long provenance of the "proof of a Democrat's wife hating America" rumor, but the "black people getting ready to riot" rumor has an even more storied history. It's at least as old as pre-Jacksonian America. And it pops up in all sorts of modern contexts, like the popular "blacks ready to start race war when Nelson Mandela dies" trope. It is also an example of pure, lizard-brained, slope-browed racism. That's where this rumor is ending up.

Meanwhile, Larry Johnson is slowly spinning away his previous rumors. On Saturday, he wrote an update:

I have not spoken directly with the people who have seen the tape, but I have spoken to two of my friends who are friends with those who watched the tape/dvd.

This was five days after he claimed contact with "five separate sources who have spoken directly with people who have seen the tape." Two, five, whatever. He explains that the two friends "live on opposite sides of the United States geographically and politically," which makes sense, since it's incredibly difficult to pass information from one part of the country to another part. Have you seen the Pony Express rates these days? And at the height of the rumor, I was hearing it bandied about from a liberal blogger in Chicago and conservative movement worthy Richard Viguerie. Anyone with cable news heard it from Florida-based Republican Roger Stone and D.C.-based Democrat Bob Beckel.

Johnson also admits that one of his previous updates might be, uh, totally wrong.

We made the mistake of putting up the claims from Hillbuzz, but have no way of verifying Hillbuzz's claim that it is a recording that features Michelle Obama with the wife of Louis Farrakhan. That is not what the sources who have seen the "tape" have reported to me.

At the time, Johnson claimed that Hillbuzz was "breaking important news." I'm not sure what "no way of verifying" means from a guy who defines "verification" as "two friends who are friends with those who watched" the evidence.

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  1. I would just like to officially state for the record: I do not care.

    I ignored the first 18 posts on this in hopes that someone at HnR would remember that HnR isn’t supposed to suck. But now it’s back again for another week, and I say: Cover the tape when it appears and not before. This is ridiculous.

  2. Ex-Hillary Supporters for John McCain, a site apparently designed by people who went into cryogenic freeze in 1994, has a new version of the story.

    David, you have to put a warning or something. I had to dive for my epilepsy meds after clicking through…

  3. Wow. Hillary supporters are even more bitter than I thought. Wonder if thats why they cling to their . . . ummmm . . . guns and religion?

  4. Cover the tape when it appears and not before.

    They’re not covering the tape, dipshittius. They’re covering the tape hoax, which is relevant to the political discourse.

    From the story:
    … all blacks will consider it stole from Obama, and the riots of 1968 will be nothing compared to those of 2008.

    Damn niggers have been griping ever since we gave them 60-percent personhood.
    I just knew it was a damned mistake.

  5. First sentence in my post should have been italicized.

  6. I ignored the first 18 posts on this in hopes that someone at HnR would remember that HnR isn’t supposed to suck. But now it’s back again for another week, and I say: Cover the tape when it appears and not before. This is ridiculous.

    I absolutely concur. Bored, Dave?

  7. Yeah? Well I talked to this guy who knew someone that saw the tape, and he said it had Michelle Obama teaching Oswald how to shoot. Then she helped film a fake moon landing, and planted canisters of fuel oil in the World Trade Center towers.

    Come on people. I’m not voting for Obama, but even I don’t believe there’s a tape. How many elections are we going to have to go through before we quit believing this tripe?

  8. Cover the tape when it appears and not before.

    They’re not covering the tape, dipshittius. They’re covering the tape hoax, which is relevant to the political discourse.

    otoh, this path is taking Weigel to every half-baked kook with website.

    Don’t get me wrong, it’s terrifically entertaining, and both Art Bell and George Norry have made a fortune doing the same thing.

    But I would think it’s beneath Weigel’s dignity.

  9. Why oh why do you keep giving this story feet by posting articles denouncing it every damn day?

    Cut. It. Out.

  10. I’d also like to state, for the record, that this ghost tape business is one of the biggest wastes of time I’ve seen on here.

    Give it up, David. No one cares.

  11. I just have to say that website is awesome. Makes me feel like I’m in high school again.

  12. The person that has the DVD is afraid to release it before the date they have set. They do not want to be the person that started the riots. This person feels that all the thugs are waiting on is a reason to start and destroy this country.

    What? Another excerpt from Ron Paul’s newsletter?

  13. slope-browed racism

    Pull over.

  14. No, you.

  15. 2 minutes of her ranting at Bill Clinton and Hillary over the phone… this will make every white American angry

    This is one white American — and I’m sure I am among millions — that would not respond to two minutes of ranting at the Clintons with “anger”. Uh, “childish glee”, yes, but not anger.

    Only two minutes?

  16. slope-browed racism

    Dave is merely stating that the people behind this have a low parietal width. Stop reading insults to gooks into everything.

  17. Dave is merely stating that the people behind this have a low parietal width. Stop reading insults to gooks into everything.

    Well, it’s hard not to when he posts stories this fucking stupid.

  18. Stop reading insults to gooks into everything.

    NEVER! Not until McCain apologizes to the Vietnamese for the free room and board they gave him for five years!

  19. Well, it’s hard not to when he posts stories this fucking stupid.

    Hey, I’m with you. But we might as well turn a stupid thread into something fun.

  20. Well, I suppose you guys can post (or not Post) whatever articles you want when you get hired as a Reason staffer.

    I find this story interesting because I guarantee the right-wing media will run with this, true or not. (If they haven’t already, my cable/internet is being transferred right now).

  21. Doug Wilder, former governor of Va or WV, I cannot remember [ed- it was Virginia], said on more than one occasion, “If Obama does not get the nomination, then all blacks will consider it stole from Obama, and the riots of 1968 will be nothing compared to those of 2008.”

    Why on earth would anyone believe someone who doesn’t even know the difference between VA and WV and is too lazy to look up Doug Wilder? Idiots.

  22. Why on earth would anyone believe someone who doesn’t even know the difference between VA and WV and is too lazy to look up Doug Wilder? Idiots.

    Give em’ a break. It’s hard to get every fact right when you base your stories on a game of Telephone.

  23. “It’s not just the Panthers. The FBI says busloads of white crazies are coming in from all over the country– to mix with the crowd and attack all at once, from every direction.”

  24. That’s Wacist!

  25. I have to reluctantly agree with Weigel. In fact, all the times in the past when the LAPD has gone on TacticalAlert due to the possibility of riots, it’s just been racism (by the Oppressors).

    Also, there is no tape, and everything bad about BHO is already out there.

    Cosmos can relax!

  26. So they’re looking for a magic bullet to stop the Magic Negro.

    I don’t get this. Why not just point out how far to the left his policies proposals are and he will be buried by the realization that he’s a pinko.

  27. Lonewacko “sat for a moment, looking hurt and confused and not quite able to digest all this terrible news. Then he cried out: “Oh. . . Jesus! What in the name of God is happening in this country? Where can you get away from it?”

  28. I have to reluctantly agree with Lone Wacko:

    Don’t click there.

  29. NO ONE CAN STOP THE MAGIC NEGRO!!!

  30. I don’t get this. Why not just point out how far to the left his policies proposals are and he will be buried by the realization that he’s a pinko.

    Pink is the new black. Didn’t you get the memo?

    Or, maybe it was the other way around…

  31. Jesus, that message board was like stumbling into a borderline personality disorder convention. Leave your spellchecker and factchecker at the door and put some glue under your caps lock.

  32. Why not just point out how far to the left his policies proposals are and he will be buried by the realization that he’s a pinko.

    That’s a good plan, but it needs a lot of help: you need to take it to “the people”. Such as by going to a BHO appearance, asking him real questions, and then uploading his response to video sharing sites.

    By doing that, non-Cosmos would strike back against the establishment, including the Ds, the Rs, the MSM, and the Cosmos. Yet, apparently actually doing something is too much for them.

  33. Why are we still talking about this?

  34. There is a video of Obama’s youngest daughter wagging a finger in a white boy’s face, yelling, “Honky, that’s MY juice box!”.

    Obama is done for it now.

  35. The awesome part about this tape story is that it’s totally fake and yet still gets coverage.

    By November a substantial portion of the voting population will believe the tape exists and will probably believe they’ve seen it, or a close friend has seen it.

    I wish I could harness this power of willful stupidity for my own ends.

  36. I wish I could harness this power of willful stupidity for my own ends.

    The pet rock has already been used. Keep trying.

  37. I think the real story here is that this is not the real Larry Johnson behind this website which is using “him” and his book as a front. Larry Johnson is one of my heroes. When I first followed a “viral” email linked to this site I was horrified and mystified. Then I noticed that there was nothing actually of Larry Johnson’s on the website. I think this is a faux website using his name and fine reputation as cover. I think this is very Rovian. David, you need to find a way to contact the real Larry Johnson immediately. This thing needs to have it’s cover blown. ASAP

  38. WHO WILL SAVE US FROM THE MAGIC NEGRO???????

  39. “I have not spoken directly with the people who have seen the tape, but I have spoken to two of my friends who are friends with those who watched the tape/dvd.”

    In other news, Kevin Bacon has seen the tape.

  40. Is it just me or does LoneWacko have a chip on his shoulder since KausFiles linked to him?

  41. “I don’t get this. Why not just point out how far to the left his policies proposals are and he will be buried by the realization that he’s a pinko.”

    After 8 years of Bush and Cheney’s spending, what does it mean to be a pinko?

  42. Is it just me or does LoneWacko have a chip on his shoulder since KausFiles linked to him?

    Nah, he’s been an ass since crawling out of the primodial blog ooze:

    Yeah, but I’m still depressed. It’s been 5 days since I sent lablogs.com an email requesting a link. I sent them another email two days ago. I check their site every few hours, but it still hasn’t shown up. I believe I’ve been officially ostracized from the blogosphere.

    Sep 29, 2002
    http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/000021.html

    but it’s odd to be on a quixotic quest to upend the political and not even be registered to vote.

  43. Don’t you all get it Hillary is still running for President. The Judge in her case Peter Paul vs: Hillary and Bill Clinton states she will not have to answer charges of fraud until after the election is over, this is her way biding for more time to stay out of jail.
    The Clintons will try any thing. Do you church put on plays? all churches do, so now Hillary has sent out a search party do dirty up Barack and Michelle,That’s why she suspended her campaign and want to hold onto her delegates. Why CNN is not telling the american people about her fraud case pending?
    WAKE UP AMERICAN DEAL WITH FACTS NOT PLAYS
    I know this will not be printed

  44. Well, it’s finally surfaced here. You can say that Mrs. Obama was just caught up in the moment, but the GOP knows how to expertly use this sort of thing to their advantage. Not pretty.

  45. I have reason to believe a tape
    a) exists
    b) is in the hands of a french television net
    c) has been broadcast already
    d) has slightly different content- it contains a picture of Obama and his family listening to a racist Rev. Wright sermon and clapping along.
    This contradicts his assertion that he had no idea of the “hatefulness.”
    Source: Seen by my french cousin on French satellite TV, before Obama became a hot candidate.

  46. I heard about 2 minutes of her ranting at Bill Clinton and Hillary over the phone…

    See? I told you Michele Obama was all right.

  47. …and then, when you get home and develop your film, you discover a picture of Michele Obama with your toothbrush is her ass.

    Bwah hah hah hah haaaaaa!!!!

  48. Even though Weigel is evidently riding this one ’till the wheels come off, it was totally worth this thread. That site for embittered Clinton supporters was classic.

  49. Unclaimed Mysteries FTW

  50. You have to admit, Nate: that is definitely a whitey tape.

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