Is Fred Thompson the New Coke of 2008? Is He "Smoother, Rounder Yet Bolder?"
That's what George Will thinks, after looking at Sen. Fred's "rocky rollout" and recounting Thompson's Nixonian dissembling when it comes to his own record regarding the role he played in pushing McCain-Feingold campaign-finance reform. Though he was a major player in getting that legislation passed--and he objected when the Supreme Court struck down some of its most boneheaded, speech-strangling provisions--Thompson now sounds like a befuddled old man on it all. And, says Will, Thompson's grasp of the current scene--when asked what made him different than the other GOP candidates, Thompson replied, "Well, to tell you the truth, I haven't spent a whole lot of time going into the details of their positions."
Then there's this fun tidbit:
Is there, however, a huge cash value in the role for which he is auditioning -- darling of religious conservatives? Perhaps. But their aspiring darling recently said in South Carolina, "I attend church when I'm in Tennessee. I'm in McLean right now. I don't attend regularly when I'm up there."
"Right now"? He has been living "up there" in that upscale inside-the-Beltway Washington suburb, honing his "Aw, shucks, I'm just an ol' Washington outsider" act, for years. Long enough to have noticed that McLean is planted thick with churches. Going to church is, of course, optional -- unless you are aiming to fill some supposed piety void in the Republican field.
Will concludes:
New Coke was announced on April 23, 1985, with the company's president piling on adjectives usually reserved for Lafite Rothschild -- "smoother, rounder yet bolder." Almost 80 days later, the public having sampled it, the company pulled the product from stores. Perhaps Thompson's candidacy will last longer than New Coke did.
Whole thing here. Smoother, Rounder Yet Bolder would make one hell of a campaign slogan, that's for sure.
Hat tip: Alan Vanneman.
All this being said: Wired's Threatlevel blog reports that Right Said Fred's website has been going gangbusters.
But reason's David Weigel asks How do you keep a moonbeam in your hand?
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Perhaps Thompson's candidacy will last longer than New Coke did.
Perhaps not. I just don't see anything to get excited about here.
On the AP wire this morning Fred also claimed he had no position on the Terry Schiavo matter as he doesn't recall the details.
OK. That's it. I'm re-subscribing so that I can cancel my subscription. I think we can all agree that for a site called Reason, this magazine has sucked since Virginia Postrel (HOT!) left. You people are not real libertarians. Libertarians are nuts. Hitler.
Drink! Drink!
TWISTED MERKIN??????
you're back!!!!!
may I guess that you're familiar with my favorite web site, "merkinworld.com"?
At least he's not Pepsi, the drink of the godless commies.
People of Earth:
Fruit juice!
Does that make Ron Paul Royal Crown (RC)? Shasta maybe? Would you believe Grape Nehi?
It is a trick question: Old Coke (by '85), New Coke, Fred Thompson and Pepsi are all loaded with HFCS.
Related news: Joseph Sobran, one of my all-time favorite writers, has had to stop writing his weekly column and is apparently in bad ill-health. I wish him well and am greatly saddened by this news.
Ron Paul is Cheer Wine.
Whats Giuliani?
Whats Giuliani?
I was going to make a joke here, but I can't think of any evil, freedom-hating soda...
Tab, I guess?
LOOSE LIPS, HAM SANDWICH!
Frankly I think a befuddled, sleepy, carbohydrate -rich President is what the world needs right now.
Matt-
What did we have the last six years then?
John Edwards is Faygo.
VM,
Sadly, that site is blocked here at work. I'll check it out at home. It sounds pertinent.
What Beer is each Presidential candidate? I think that would reveal more. Mike Gravel is definitely PBR.
Ron Paul is a great German wheat beer, clearly better than the normal swill that the vast majority of Americans drink, but not purchased by most of them nevertheless.
Giuliani is Steel Reserve 211. An extremely strong, harsh, and disgusting malt liqour.
Mike Gravel is definitely PBR
Holding out for McCain-Rheingold here.
George Bush is the beer running in the gutter in the French quarter in New Orleans. Or perhaps the beer-and-pee-and-river smell that is always in the air. I don't know, is that a brand?
Gravel is not PBR. He's bar rag sqeezins.
Actually RC beats both coke and pepsi in blind taste tests.
Gravel is not PBR.
Sure he is. Hes the candidate for liberal hipster art students. Just like PBR is the beer for them.
Whats Giuliani?
The drippings in a bed pan.
Ron Paul is Clamato.
Whats Giuliani?
Fries.
John Edwards is Faygo.
Appreciate the reference to a hometown biz, but WTF the link? Am I missing a pun here?
"I attend church when I'm in Tennessee. I'm in McLean right now. I don't attend regularly when I'm up there."
I'm too sexy for this church.
Back in 1985, my girlfriend and I both got cans of Coke from a vending machine on campus. She popped hers and made a grimace. "There's something wrong with this!" I popped mine and took a sip, and immediately spit it out. "It tastes like Pepsi!" To this day people express incredulity that I can actually taste the difference between Classic Coke and Pepsi.
Fast forward to 2007. Fred Thompson enters the race. My girlfriend is horrified, "there's something wrong with this!" I take a look at the television, and spit up. "He's sounds like a Bush!"
Am I missing a pun here?
All I can think of is that ICP is a Detroit icon just like Faygo is. And Vernors.
I agree, Ron Paul is Cheerwine: Those who have heard of it, know how great it is. Everyone else is oblivious (and missing out).
All this being said: Wired's Threatlevel blog reports that Right Said Fred's website has been going gangbusters.
From that post, Fred! is soliciting questions from yes-men right-wing blogs. Give his campaign credit, he's going to milk that blogmentum to the fullest, since every one of the blogs mentioned will be sporting woodies over being taken seriously by a Real Live Presidential Candidate/Famous Person?.
J sub D,
At ICP concerts, they spray bottles upon bottles of Faygo on the crowd. It's like their gimmick or something...
All I can think of is that ICP is a Detroit icon just like Faygo is. And Vernors.
OK. And Better-Made potato chips.
How do you keep a moonbeam in your hand????
When did Jerry Brown enter the race for the Republican presidential nomination?
Appreciate the reference to a hometown biz, but WTF the link? Am I missing a pun here?
Faygo is their official drink or something. If you look at the guy in the pic he's holding a bottle of the stuff.
Which, strangely enough, I never saw for sale in Atlanta, but which is for some reason available at the Bi-Lo down the road from my house.
In, er, SC.
Faygo trivia alert - Their #1 selling flavor is, drumroll please, Red-Pop.
Jim Bob, if you're in SC, then you need to check out Blenheim's Ginger Ale. It's probably the most apt analogy to Ron Paul. Totally awesome, wholly authentic, but almost nobody's heard of it, and it's way to strong for most people to swallow.
But damn if it doesn't make for one helluva gin-and-ginger.
Yep, Blenheim's.
That's a real gingery Ginger Ale. Almost burns. Yum.
Virginia Postrel (HOT!)
I haven't subscribed to the dead tree version since those days.....
This is Hit & Run comments and you are making like Fred Thompson not going to church is a negative?
I've got to ask joe how to get those tags right.
SIV,
THERE'S A BOOK, YOU KNOW.
Maybe Thompson is more like Near Beer. It had a great add, tasted kinda like the real thing, but just couldn't deliver.
Maybe Thompson is more like Near Beer. It had a great add, tasted kinda like the real thing, but just couldn't deliver.
So that would make Gravel the penguin from the Bud Ice commercials. Random, kinda creepy, yet oddly endearing.
Doobeedoobeedoooo
George F. Will is a big time Rudy fan... so instead of trying to find nice stuff to say about Rudy he makes bad stuff up about Rudy's rivals. And it's no wonder he's taking shots at Fred now. Have you seen the latest polls? RCP has Fred within 5 of Rudy... Rasmussen has Fred in front by 8.
George Will is full of Red Bull!
http://www.fredstates.com/fred_thompson.html
But damn if it doesn't make for one helluva gin-and-ginger.
I'm on it- it's been a long time since I had a premium ginger ale (because they're so difficult to find). My wife will probably love the stuff if it's good, as well. Thanks for the tip.
Faygo is [Insane Clown Posse's] official drink or something.
Yeah, I've got a friend who's a huge ICP fan. They mention Faygo in several of their crappy raps.
I suspect that the segment of the population that will be taken in by Fred's "regularly guy you could have a beer with" shtick is considerably smaller than it was in 2000 or 2004.
Of course, they are still likely a significant majority of Republican primary voters.
President of 9/11 vs. someone you could drink a beer with.
Seriously, this is what passes for political thought on the right these days. He stood on the rubble! Yeah, wail hee tawks lahk mah momma...