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If you have a Times Select membership you can read John Tierney's report from Amsterdam, where Andrew Sullivan, Trey Parker, and Matt Stone attended and spoke at a Reason magazine conference. A sneak peak:

"We're the long-suffering, battered spouse in a dysfunctional political marriage of convenience," said Nick Gillespie, the editor in chief of Reason. "Most of the libertarians I know have given up on the G.O.P. The odds that we'll stick around for the midterm election are about as good as the odds that Rick Santorum will join the Village People."

Andrew Sullivan, the blogger who coined "South Park Republican," was at the conference with a preview of "The Conservative Soul," his new book on the spiritual corruption of Republicans. He said he now prefers to call himself a South Park conservative, not Republican.

"The Republicans have got to be punished for destroying conservatism," he said, explaining why he's rooting against the party this November. "If it requires an idiotic Democratic House to stop these people from doing what they're doing, then good."

Stone and Parker told me they'd previously seen the G.O.P. as a relief from the big-government liberals, particularly the ones preaching to America from Hollywood. "We see these people lying, cheating, whoring," Stone said. "They're our friends, but seriously, they're not people you want to listen to."

The religious right used to be a better alternative, Parker said. "The Republicans didn't want the government to run your life, because Jesus should. That was really part of their thing: less government, more Jesus. Now it's like, how about more government and Jesus?"

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  1. Speaking of drugs, over at Daily Dish, Weigel writes: “I have trouble believing that one missile could make the 6000-mile journey from the Middle East to New York City and we 1)wouldn’t know where it came from and 2)wouldn’t be able to stop it.”

    How would Mr. Weigel propose to ‘stop’ a ballistic missile coming across the Atlantic? Does he know about some super-secret USA BMD defense on the East Coast?

  2. “Now it’s like, how about more government and Jesus?”

    Most of the fights over religion in this country are just one side sticking the other in the eye over stuff that really doesn?t matter. The Jesus freaks tell the atheists “fuck you were putting the Ten Commandments in the front of every court house” to which the atheists respond “yeah, will fuck you we are tearing down cross from the war memorial and kicking Santa Clause off the city hall lawn.” Both sides are equally annoying. That said, I am not too worried about living in a Godless Utopia anymore than I am worried about being forcibly converted to a snake handling evangelical. A bunch of gadflies all get pissed off at each other, but that is really about it.

    As far as big government, that is called any government. It doesn’t matter who is in charge of Congress, they are going to steal our money through taxes and give it their buddies back home. There is no stopping it. I would like to think if I were ever elected I wouldn’t do it, but maybe there is something irresistible about the power of spending other people’s money. Bankruptcy or massive civil disobedience in the form of a tax revolt seems to be the only way to stop it. Certainly, putting one party in power versus another is not going to stop those miserable bastards from spending every dime they can get their hands on on every asinine and wasteful thing they can think of.

  3. Yeah, the past 6 years have been terrible for the Republicans. Outside of the blind partisans and militant Christians, who could possibly call the government of the new millenium a success? You can always say “it would have been worse if the Dems” blah blah blah, and in all honesty, it might have been. But can anyone actually say the GOP has done a GOOD job relative to Clinton or Bush or Reagan or anyone other than Hoover?

    My personal story is: My first election, I voted for Bob Dole and felt like I had done a service to my country. My second election, I voted for Bush and felt like I had cast in with the lesser of two evils. In 2004, I voted Badnarik. He may be batshit insane, but he’s not Bush and he’s not Kerry. I followed the Dem primaries with rapt attention, desperately hoping they would nominate anyone even marginally acceptable (Dean, Gephardt… alright, those were the only 2 I deemed to be marginally acceptable, but still.) In the end, I had to vote for a loon because he had no chance of winning and I didn’t want to repeat my 2000 experience of voting for a loon who did win. Excellent system we’ve got, here.

  4. Legate,

    The economy has done really well. The economy had a very mild recession which was way over due after the tech bubble burst and 9-11. Since then unemployement has come steadily down to where it is now under 5% and growth has constistently been well over 3%, all during an oil price shock. You really can’t do much better than that. The one thing Bush has done exactly right domesticlly were the tax cuts. But of course his own party won’t make them perminent because it is killing them not to have that money to waste.

    Ultimately Americans can blame themselve. If a Republican or anyone came out and said the truth; that the government can’t solve all of your problems and needs to stop your money wasting money trying, he would crucified. Newt Gingrich tried that in 1995 and shut down the government trying to cut medicare and was on the cover of Newsweek as “how the Gingrich stole Christmas.” You can say that Bush should have ran as a real conservative rather than a “compassionate conservative”, whatever the hell that is, but if he had done that, we would President Gore and just as much spending.

  5. Speaking as somebody who has only voted for republicans since being eligible to vote…….this election cycle I plan on kicking down every republican lawn sign that I see! Useless fucks!

  6. “..how about more government and Jesus?” Guess I’d better start packing. Whenever Jesus becomes an influential factor in a government, Jews like me end up either being expelled (if they are lucky) or exterminated (if they are not).

  7. This election I plan to sigh deeply and vote against the incumbents. If I bother voting, that is. Other than hating Henry Bonilla I really see no reason to vote.

  8. Yuri,

    Don’t forget Allah. Jews seem to have a hard time of it when he is involved as well. And Marx, Jew don’t seem to do to well under him either. Ah, screw it you are right, everyone hates the Jews.

  9. Hot damn, I knew it all along!

  10. Hot damn, I knew it all along!

    Scooter! Is that you?

    Sorry dude. I know, I know, I was always like ‘errr I gave the last cookie to Miss Stokes’. Well yes, I was talking shit.

    If it’s any consolation, I’ve got man boobs now and when I run they look like they’re trying to pat me on the back. Not so good.

  11. Mark VIII

    If you were stealing biscuits from 6 year olds, you had the makings of a great Congressman. Too bad that whole ethics thing got in the way of your development.

  12. “Both sides are equally annoying.”

    sometimes. but only one side is scary.

    i mean, dude, the jesus crispies – whether or not they’re legitimately religious or if they’re just fucking assholes in search of power – are the ones passing laws keeping people FROM BUYING VIBRATORS.

    let us phrase this again:

    THEY HAVE MADE IT ILLEGAL IN FOR WOMEN TO MASTURBATE USING VIBRATORS IN EIGHT (8) STATES

    let me try a third time:

    HOLY FUCKING SHIT THEY’RE SCARED OF ORGASMS

    so if you live in Texas, Alabama, Colorado, Georgia, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi or Virginia – YOUR GENITALS MAY BE CONTRABAND.

    it’s so crazy it seems like a fucking joke to say both sides are equally annoying. hardcore intolerant atheists are fucking assholes, sure, but they don’t try to ban churches. hardcore religious assholes, if you don’t have the legal firepower to stop them dead in their tracks, are about ten thousand times more invasive and willing to use the might of the state – violence – to keep people from all sorts of consensual activity.

    like, oh, BUYING FUCKING VIBRATORS DEAR GOD WHY DOES ANYONE TOLERATE THIS SHIT?

    sorry. sorry. it’s a problem i’m working on.

    and the first person to say “allah would be worse” gets kicked in the balls so fucking hard i’m going to break a toe. no shit – that’s why i don’t live in afghanistan (or Texastan, Alabamastan, Coloradostan, Georgiastan, Kansastan, Louisianastan, Mississippistan and Virginiastan) there’s about as much of a chance of a muslim takeover of the united states as there is of a jewish or atheist takeover of the united states.

  13. Dhex,

    Jesus. Relax.

    And admit it, Allah (PBUH) would be worse…

  14. so would undead space nazis.

    it’s a nice way of saying “hey, yeah, many of our fellow countrypersons are so out of their fucking gourd it’s frightening and we can’t possibly beat them all so we have to continue carpetbombing the place with porno until folks accept that they own their genitals and no one else’s which will probably happen right after they decide everyone owns their own body and pigs grow wings.”

  15. “A bunch of gadflies all get pissed off at each other, but that is really about it.”

    Yeah, that Plan B thing was just women bitching, and they shouldn’t be able to vote anyway, right?

    Yup, no Jebus influence I can see in this administration.

    In Bizarro World.

  16. John’s claim that our relatively healthy economy is due to Republican Public policy is tired old hat and wrong. Sure the tax cuts were stimulative, but compared to the Fed’s monetary stimulus, and the loans we’ve been racking up from abroad, they were small potatoes. And all three have simply delayed a coming calamity:

    The tax cuts have put us in a fiscal hole, the interest rate manipulation has moved the bubble into housing (now ready to burst) and the lending from abroad has left us in debt and the dollar highly vulnerable.

    It’s like certain drugs: as long as you take them you feel great. But the longer you go on feeling great the worse the withdrawal is gonna be.

  17. “The tax cuts have put us in a fiscal hole”

    No, that would be the spending.

  18. Garth,

    People have been bitching and moaning about the trade deficit and “loans from abroad” since the 1980s. Whenever there is a Republican in power and the economy is good, it is all because of reckless borrowing from abroad. When the economy was good in the 1990s and the trade deficit and current accounts deficit boomed beyond anything imaginable in the 1980s, magically all of those “the trade deficit and borrowing is going to end prosperity” stories disappeared only to reappear upon the election of another Republican. The economy boomed after 1995 tax cuts and boomed again after the 2003 tax cuts. Further, it is not the tax cuts that have put us in a hole; the government is taking in trillions in tax dollars. It is the spending that has put us in a hole to the extent that we are in one.

    It is a simple concept, the more you tax people and steal the money they have lawfully earned, the less they work and the less productive they will be. When you cut the amount you steal from them, they will work harder, produce more and the economy will grow faster. I don’t know why people have such a hard time accepting that. Ultimately it is about freedom. Lower taxes give people more money and more freedom and some people just can’t stand that.

  19. Yeah,

    Sandy everyone who objects to abortion or thinks that perhaps life begins sometime before birth does so because Jesus told them that it was their duty to opress women and procreate. In bizarro world maybe. Not that I don’t agree with you about Plan B. The point is I don’t think everyone who comes to a different conclusion than me is a religous fanatic.

    DHex,

    If I recall correctly a lot of feminists seem to have a huge problem with pornography as well. Not that that excuses the religous nuts, but I don’t think running them out of politics is going to get rid of the anti-porn madness.

  20. Is there any more absurd career choice than trying to be a professional politician? It would be laughable if not for all the damage they do. Of course, they do this damage at the behest of the covetous little f**** who elect them.

    I think I may stop voting.

  21. Politics is Janus.
    One face is religion; the other is government, as in govern: control at gunpoint.

    Don’t vote.
    It’s not who plays the game. It’s about playing a different game. The different game is minding one’s own business and letting order arise spontaneously from anarchic chaos.

  22. “there’s about as much of a chance of a muslim takeover of the united states as there is of a jewish or atheist takeover of the united states.”

    I’m an atheist, and I’m here to help you!

  23. I think there’s a better chance of galactic overlords taking over than of your “different game.”

  24. “The different game is minding one’s own business and letting order arise spontaneously from anarchic chaos.”

    But we don’t have anarchic chaos. We have the federal and state and county and local governments. And all that beaurocratic infrastructure leaves the likelihood that a better government will spring forth unbidden and save us from our current situation rather low.

    On the (slightly) sunny side, when all the baby boomers retire in 10-15 years, they’ll have to start outsourcing at least some government functions for simple lack of warm bodies. Privatized government will only be thieves different from the current ones, yes, but at least they’re different. 🙂

  25. South Park Republicans?

    But can they beat the Simpsons Democrats?

    Or the Family Guy Reform Party?

    Or the Naruto Libertarians?

    The Boondocks Greens?

    We should always take our political tips from comix.

  26. Jose,
    So what?
    Isn’t the first step in solving a problem defining it?

  27. “The religious right used to be a better alternative”? In what universe was this in? The biggest problem with Republicans going back 25 years has been the religious nonsense element, not only religious but authoritarian, the number one reason I could never have voted for them. A position I’ve seen validated since the Repub domination of govenrnment. Perhaps the American public was wiser at the time than we thought, keeping the loons out of complete power they way they did.

  28. “But we don’t have anarchic chaos. We have the federal and state and county and local governments.”

    Legate,
    We wouldn’t have if nobody voted, would we?

  29. Here’s an old idea, with no more likelihood of happening than term imits:
    “None of the Above”

    Put that on the ballot and see what happens.

  30. “The tax cuts have put us in a fiscal hole”

    “No, that would be the spending.”

    it bears repeating

    nmg

  31. Maybe Jesus and Friends is trying to move up from the local access cable channel.

    Next caller.

  32. South Park Republicans = “You get your bitch a** back in the kitchen and make me some pie!”

  33. MainstreamMan makes a good point, though I think he should expound a bit further on his post.

  34. KT,

    Two words:

  35. SquidBillies LaRouchians

    Smurf Communists

  36. John: If you believe the Republicans are cutting taxes for any reason other than to buy votes, I’ve got a bridge in Alaska I’d like to sell you (you’ve already bought it once, how about a second time?). Same goes with spending increases. The only reason the Dems are on the outs is that they didn’t think of putting the two together first, although if they had paid any attention to Robert Docking, who got re-elected governor four times in KANSAS in the 1950’s & 1960’s for promising to cut taxes and increase public services, they’d have a nearly unbreakable dynasty right now. People don’t vote for tax increases and spending cuts; it really is that simple. The economic arguments are just window dressing.

  37. “If you believe the Republicans are cutting taxes for any reason other than to buy votes,”

    That may be true, but I don’t really care. Every dollar that the government doesn’t take is another dollar that stays where it belongs; in the person who earned it’s pocket. The fact that the Republicans don’t have altruistic motives for wanting to leave that dollar in you pocket makes no difference to me.

    One other thing, don’t think for a moment that people will not vote to raise taxes, as long as it is someone else’s taxes. Look no further than the crusade to raise tobacco taxes to “pay for schools”. Paying for schools and things “for the children” is always a sure seller when it comes to taking other people’s money.

  38. “The tax cuts have put us in a fiscal hole”

    “No, that would be the spending.”

    No, that would be the borrowing that preceded the spending.

  39. Fritz the Cat Federalists.

  40. DHex, If I recall correctly a lot of feminists seem to have a huge problem with pornography as well.

    This is true, but Dhex wasn’t talking about pornography, but about sex toys that are illegal to own.

    Not to justify those loathsome moralists who try to outlaw porn, but they at least have a half-ass excuse: they think porn harms women. What is the half-ass excuse to justify making certain forms of masturbation (in the privacy of one’s own home) illegal?

  41. “Every dollar that the government doesn’t take is another dollar that stays where it belongs”

    Not really true. I like the way it sounds, but if the government increases spending we will pick up the tab sooner or later, one way, or another.

    “One other thing, don’t think for a moment that people will not vote to raise taxes, as long as it is someone else’s taxes.”

    Agreed. Or as Bloomberg put it, the only good tax is the one that taxes the other guy.

    That goes with a lot of things in this country.
    Delay and Limbaugh were supporters of rule of law, until it knocked on their door. Congress will always support reform that doesn’t affect them.

    Evidence of a self-centered society?

  42. Every dollar that the government doesn’t take is another dollar that stays where it belongs; in the person who earned it’s pocket. The fact that the Republicans don’t have altruistic motives for wanting to leave that dollar in you pocket makes no difference to me.

    Except that sooner or later, government will have to take dollars out of our pockets again, to pay off the debts the Republicans are racking up. Basically, praising the Republicans for their current tax cuts (without spending cuts to accompany them) is like praising them because instead of taking money out of your savings account, they are charging things to a high-interest credit card in your name. In the long run, that’ll cost you more than if they just took the money from you in the first place.

  43. John: You’re right, my formulation should have a caveat; Clinton got the tax hikes through in 1992 because he convinced the majority that the taxes were only going to affect a rich minority. People will always vote to take away someone else’s money and restrict someone else’s freedom–that’s the principal failing of pure democracy. I disagree with you on the tax cuts only because I can’t shake that “eat your vegetables” morality I was raised on, that says you have to pay for what you buy. The economic issue is hopelessly complex, but I still can’t get away from the gut feeling that a tax cut without a spending cut simply shifts the costs somewhere else, such as to inflation or higher borrowing costs.

  44. Ron,
    “Don’t tax me, don’t tax thee, tax the fellow behind the tree.” …Russell Long

    This is the eternal argument behind tax increases.

  45. Does anyone have a SelectTimes login and password they would be willing to share with me? I would like to read this whole article but I’m not paying for that garbage.

    By the way, I’m aware of the irony of asking a group of fiscal conservative capitalists for a free handout. Just gimme it anyway!

  46. John: I suppose I was some less clear than I should have been. It’s not the tax cuts that make the deficit as long as spending us also reduced. I am all for much lower taxes and much less spending. I am a minarchist after all. But if you are unwilling to to the latter, you should forgo the former since then you will simply be raising taxes later to cover the original deficit PLUS interest on it.

    But that was not my main point. My main point was that tha cuts has had less of an impact on economic activity than has the montary stimulus.

  47. John: I suppose I was some less clear than I should have been. It’s not the tax cuts that make the deficit as long as spending us also reduced. I am all for much lower taxes and much less spending. I am a minarchist after all. But if you are unwilling to to the latter, you should forgo the former since then you will simply be raising taxes later to cover the original deficit PLUS interest on it.

    But that was not my main point. My main point was that tha cuts has had less of an impact on economic activity than has the montary stimulus.

  48. “Since then unemployement has come steadily down to where it is now under 5% and growth has constistently been well over 3%, all during an oil price shock. You really can’t do much better than that. The one thing Bush has done exactly right domesticlly were the tax cuts.”

    Eh, give me a $4 trillion credit card, I’ll throw a hell of a party, too. You think the tech bubble was a recession waiting to happen…

    Now, an extended period of growth accompanied by a shrinking national debt – that’s a real feat. Has anybody apologized yet for predicting babies starving the street during the 1993 Congressional debate?

  49. Joe,

    I don’t why I bother anymore but I will try it again. Debt is only a meaningful term as it is applied to GDP. To put it in simple terms, to be $100,000 in debt is a big deal if you only make $20K a year. If you make a million a year, it is not so much of a problem. U.S. national debt peaked at 120% of GNP at the end of World War II. It fell all the way to 40% in 1964 and stayed there until 1984 when it began rising again, peaking at about 65% in 1995. It fell to below 60% in 2001 and has risen afterwards to peak again at a little under 65% in 2005. Basically, the national debt is in real terms about where it was in 1995 and is falling again. As long as the economy grows faster than the deficit grows the debt, the debt as a percentage of GNP will continue to fall and the debt will become less and less of a problem. The idea that the current expansion is the result of a $4 trillion creditcard is so stupid and insulting as to be beyond belief. Would I like to see the debt come down? Absolutely! But there is no reason to do that by raising taxes. The federal government already takes about 18% of the GDP of the country. That should be enough for the government to function. Truthfully, the government doesn’t even have to cut spending. It just needs to hold spending constant and let the revenues rise to meet the expenditures. Long term issues with entitlements aside, which is a whole other debate, the current budget deficit and national debt is not, when viewed in real terms, historically large, and should not be a particularly difficult problem to solve.

  50. John: I would like to believe you are right about the deficit, but between you and Greenspan, I think I’ll go with Greenspan. And, by the way, ignoring entitlement spending in this discussion is a totally pointless exercise. The irony will be that when the crisis inevitably hits, no one’s position in this debate will change–the left will say it was due to the failure to raise taxes on the “rich”, and the right will say it was the failure to control the spending (although it will be hard for them to keep a straight face while saying it). At this point I’ve given up hope that people will come to their senses and stop spending money they don’t have. I used to support the Concord Coalition until I realized they weren’t accomplishing anything, although I find some merit in any organization that is attacked by both the left and the right.

  51. they are charging things to a high-interest credit card in your name.

    Well, no, actually they are charging it to a very low interest rate credit card. As low as they come and certainly lower than any rate you can borrow at.

    In the long run, that’ll cost you more than if they just took the money from you in the first place.

    Why is that? As mentioned the government borrows at such a low rate that you can, with little effort, take your tax savings, invest them, and come out ahead when the bill comes due. At worst, if you really don’t want to chance trying to beat the lowly risk-free rate, then simply lend the government the money it is borrowing on your behalf and stop worrying. The mistake that seems to be made in these discussions is recognizing that the debt grows over time but failing to recognize that so does the money left untaxed in the economy.

    None of this should be taken as a defense of either the GOP or the Dems in fiscal matters. It is just that all this worrying about borrowing vs. taxing is largely pointless, or worse, in that it can divert attention away from the real problem. It is the spending that matters, not so much the choice of financing that spending. When that spending is pure waste, that waste is the true loss to the economy, however we end up paying for it.

  52. To John, Brian, and the “deficits don’t matter” crowd: http://www.theothernews.com/article.asp?article=1119&dept=1.

    In anticipation of the standard ad hominem attacks on the Concord Coalition, it would be interesting instead to see an actual reasoned argument against their assertions.

  53. Ron,

    I wouldn’t necessarily say that deficits don’t matter at all, I would say if they do it is at the margin and orders of magnitude smaller than the real problem which is spending, so I stand by my point that a focus on tax/borrowing issues distract us from the real problem of spending. Also, the way they matter would be rather different than presumed in the typical argument raised against them, which was the main subject of my comment above.

    Here’s an example: Say the government decides to build a $100 million monument to fiscal responsibility. It can take the $100 million from the public now or it can borrow it from the public at the T-bill rate (say 5%) leaving us with $100 million to invest, but knowing that, say in 10 years the government will tax us that $100 million plus about $63 million in interest to pay it off. Since we can, in the worst case, simply take that $100 milling and buy T-bills and collect the 5%, our extra $100 million has (obviously) become about $163 million, so how are we worse off under the second scenario? If you have a better alternative than T-bills you come out ahead, if not you break even – where’s the problem (aside from the wasteful spending, that is)?

    But, as I said, it isn’t that there are no subtle ways in which borrowing might be marginally worse for other reasons, just that it isn’t worse in the commonly thought of way (e.g. comparing the government to an individual borrowing on a credit card). And, even if you do come up with some way in which the borrowing is worse than taxing, it is going to be very hard to convince me that the differential between the two scenarios will even begin to approach the magnitude of the $100 million of pure waste that the spending represents in the first place.

  54. The Jebus freaks — no, wait, those are a type of hippie — make that the Religious Right — are a factor against OTC Plan B. But the Jesus Whatevers aren’t the reason there’s an FDA to begin with. Plan B is just a minor detail. And weighing onto the scale against OTC Plan B are all those paternalist-progressive types like Sidney Wolfe (regardless of his position on this particular drug, which I don’t know), who are uncomfortable with any drugs’ being dispensed without an anointed expert’s prescription.

    Same with vibrator sales. Not possession, because no state now makes their mere possession illegal. Would there be laws against their sale if there weren’t already a broad “consumer protection” ethic allowing for such bans?

  55. John: I would like to believe you are right about the deficit, but between you and Greenspan, I think I’ll go with Greenspan.

    Ron, you mention Greenspan, and if it’s the speech I think you’re referring to, Greenspan spoke very carefully when talking about debt, tax reductions etc. Greenspan had a problem with tax cuts because they might not be combined with reductions in outlays– and boy was he right. The problem we have right now is we have two parties: one which wants to cut taxes and increase government spending, and another which wants to increase taxes and increase government spending. Picking between the two is a difficult choice. If you pick the former, you might die before the bill comes due *fingers crossed*, if you pick the latter, you’re simply giving the nod to bigger government, shrinking wages (via taxes being skimmed off the top) and a ballooning public sector hanging over America which endlessly complains about not having enough of my money.

  56. Haggar the barbarian, hmm….

  57. No wait Haggars Barbarians

  58. vibrators outlawed in Louisiana…

    Odd…
    In fact for Secret Santa about 2 years ago, one of my med school classmates got a butt-plug.
    They even got it from an adult gift store in Shreveport…
    I guess the law says that it’s dandy to stick things in your (oriface of preference) as long as it doesn’t jiggle…

  59. Brian: I agree with you as far as you go, but the real issue is the impact of borrowing on the money supply, and the resulting inflationary pressures. Where we are eventually headed with entitlement spending, for instance, is simply the equivalent of printing the money. You’ll get your social security check, but it will be worthless.

    Paul: You lose either way. If the government prints the money (e.g., borrows it), you pay through higher interest rates and higher inflation. Some have argued that economic growth will outstrip the inflationary pressure of increased borrowing, if you can keep the current annual deficits under control. That was Bill Clinton’s stated sttrategy. What I would really like to see is an analysis of how much growth we are going to have to have to offset the entitlement spending on the boomers. I fear our economy is eventually going to look like France’s.

  60. “What is the half-ass excuse to justify making certain forms of masturbation (in the privacy of one’s own home) illegal?”

    i’m sure there’s plenty of ways to dissect this, but the most basic is:

    1) women get pregnant
    2) therefore female sexuality must be controlled

    alternatively, you could say it’s because such advances in hedonic engineering are a form of individualism that doesn’t require the intervention of church or state. furthermore, the ability of women to experience multiple orgasms using this technology creates a barrier between people and their transcendent physical experiences. this is, of course, a deep offense to the neo-platonic types who wish to view all discourses of matter as fallen a priori.

    alteratively to that, these sorts of people worship a very strange, primitive and angry type of god – the preferred terminology is “blind drooling idiot slave god” – and as such believe the entire universe is as humorless and devoid of pleasure as their own lives.

    and finally, maybe they’re just fucking assholes with tiny dicks?

  61. another howler….” As long as the economy grows faster than the deficit grows” yup, a inexorably growing economy, fueled by pizza deliveries, dry cleaners, zoning lawyers, “consultants”, squeegie guys, the defense racket, PACs, reality TV payrolls, more “consultants”, and anything else that hasnt been exported cuz it cant be done cheaper by gunpoint labor. OOps, I mean, the “free market”…..
    Thank Red Emma for cheap vodka
    Happy Daze Are Here Again……….

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