Bush's Cop-Rock-Level Ratings on Eve of SOTU
So how's Bush doing on the eve of his State of the Union address? The short answer: 44 percent approve of "how Bush is handling his job"; 55 percent disapprove; and 4 percent just don't know (they really, really, really just don't know). Here's some more data from a Time mag poll:
Almost two-thirds of Americans (63%) still see the country going down the wrong track, up three points from late November (60% wrong track).
Two in three (64%) disapprove of the job that President Bush is doing to keep the cost of government down.
Bush continues to have negative approval ratings with regard to his handling of illegal immigration (61% disapprove--24% approve) the economy (56%--39%) and the situation in Iraq (60%--38%).
60% disapprove of his handling of the war in Iraq, unchanged since late November.
About half (51%) of Americans say it was wrong to go to war with Iraq, with 44% saying it was right-- little changed over the past year.
Handling the war on terrorism (48% disapprove--47% approve) with approval down 9 points from last January.
In the "red" states, that is the states responsible for Bush's 2004 re-election, his approval rating is split at 48% approve--48% disapprove.
Although Bush's approval among Republicans remains steady at 79% approve--18% disapprove, the President receives negative ratings from his party in handling of the illegal immigrant problem (49% disapprove--37% approve) and split ratings on keeping the cost of government down (47% approve--45% disapprove).
Even more data--including a couple of answers that explain why the Dems haven't capitalized on low Bush and GOP ratings--here.
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Almost two-thirds of Americans (63%) still see the country going down the wrong track, up three points from late November (60% wrong track).
Thanks for doing the math for us... 😉
I'm really surprised by these figures:
Most (73%) favor a guest worker program for illegal immigrants, with a quarter (23%) opposing. The public is split though on whether they should be eligible to register for the program in the U.S. (50%) or have to return to their home countries to apply (46%).
About two-thirds (64%) favor granting temporary visas to immigrants not currently in the United States to do seasonal or temporary work here and then return to their own countries;
About 3-in-4 (76%) favor allowing illegal immigrants in the U.S., citizenship if they learn English, have a job and pay taxes;
As for Bush's low ratings, I don't think he personally, or the people running his political operations, know a damn thing about climbing out of a hole. Every time Bush has found himself in a hole, he has been rescued from it by outside forces. His biography suggests that he has much more experience staying on top once he's there than pulling himself up when he's down.
"About 3-in-4 (76%) favor allowing illegal immigrants in the U.S., citizenship if they learn English, have a job and pay taxes;"
This level of support is probably at least partially explainable by the fact that some non-trivial part of the American public already believes that's how the system works. I've encountered a number of people over the years (including people with graduate degrees) who honestly thought that even if somebody entered the country illegally, they would automatically turn into a US citizen after a certain number of years.
Although Bush's approval among Republicans remains steady at 79% approve--18% disapprove....split ratings on keeping the cost of government down (47% approve--45% disapprove).
i thought it was congress's responsibility to keep the cost of government down, not the president.
joe,
If that's the case, then it says even more about your own party's incompetence than Bush's.
Wow. Opinion polls.
Those are really important. I mean, how else is Bush going to get re-elected with such low poll ratings. Even if Bush doesn't run again, Cheney will never get the Republican nomination with those low poll numbers.
I'm giving up on poll numbers. I've determined that they are completely useless and they have undermined the purpose of government.
For example, here's a good poll result for you:
96% of children disapprove of spankings if they are caught stealing candy. (1047 children polled, +/- 4%. Xmas Polling Co.)
"i thought it was congress's responsibility to keep the cost of government down, not the president."
Bush could help a little bit if he vetoed something at least once a term.
"About 3-in-4 (76%) favor allowing illegal immigrants in the U.S., citizenship if they learn English, have a job and pay taxes"
I wish there was a category for stuff like...
About 1-in-8 (13%) favor allowing illegal immigrants in the U.S., citizenship if they have a job, etc., but don't think it's any of the government's fucking business who American citizens hire or what language those workers speak.
...or something like that.
I can say with a 1% margin of error that I'd rather watch Cop Rock than the State of the Union. In fact, I'd rather watch an actual rock than the State of the union.
Actually, I'd prefer an actual rock to Cop Rock, too.
Did anybody see Cop Rock last night?
I'd rather watch Ruk, the Ted Cassidy android from Star Trek:
http://www.giantsandgirls.com/images/beyond/whatarelgmo2.jpg
but as a Fox affiliate broadcaster, I get to look forward to a thrilling evening of American Idol visiting Vegas, followed by the SotU.
Kill me now.
Since the only possible use of government these days is to provide cynical entertainment while the country spirals down to Hell, I'd favor a Constitutional amendment requiring political speeches to be sung entirely in verse, but that would cause problems for Bush since there are few good rhymes for "nine-eleven."
I don't see any connection at all between my point and yours, crimethink, except for the umbrage you take whenever someone criticized the president.
In another poll, 72% of those polled would prefer to watch Chris Rock, compared to 18% for Cop Rock and 10% for Bush's State of the Union Address.
Nine-eleven
lucky seven
go to heaven
bread's unleavened
Actually, maybe this would work after all.
Jennifer;
I'm sure you watched that news at 7
On the day of 9/11
those turrists wanted to go to heaven
so watch your ass if your bread's unleavened
it could work
A president that owes his loyalty to big oil, OPEC, and the saudis before we the people of the USA and fuel prices double in a few years.. consumers paying 50 bucks a tank fillup.. and seeing duuuhbya in shiek's clothing everytime they pump gas?
And that president's poll ratings follow the price of gasoline?
The real surprise is that he hasn't been impeached for criminal neglience and treason.
eerie. didn't see your comment before I posted
But Randolph, the comment about unleavened bread might be considered a slight against the Jewish population.
I've learned to take polls with a grain of salt, mostly because they can be easily manipulated to give you the answers you want to hear.
But here's something for you to consider... do you REALLY think that the Bush Imperium gives a rat's ass about what the polls say? Bush Junior isn't running for re-election. As long as his friends in Congress are making sure that the words "Articles of Impeachment" are not even whispered under the great corrupt dome, he knows that he can pretty much do whatever he wants without having to worry about what "the people" think.
joe,
You are definitely arguing with the crimethink in your head, since I've criticized the president myself roughly 1,277,504 times on this blog.
That said, the "outside forces" you note that keep saving Bush from electoral failure often take the form of his opponents' incompetence.
Randolph, are you serious about not having seen my comment before you wrote your poem? Wow, that is kind of spooky.
I thought unleavened bread was the standard in middle-eastern countries... I have so much to learn from this internet
It's those collective consciousness, esp mirror neurons at work.
yes I am serious -- apparently while Joe has a crimethink in his head, I'm renting space to a Jennifer
Good old internet synchronicity.
And you're charging too much rent, too, Randolph. But that's okay--I once invited Jesus into my heart and had to evict Him three days later. It wasn't the morality thing that bugged me so much as the way He kept playing His stereo too loud.
I just wish Jennifer had a me in her...
And creepy demonstrates the exact opposite effect!
9/11
trifectin'
hehehey (john stewart bush laugh)
but as a Fox affiliate broadcaster, I get to look forward to a thrilling evening of American Idol visiting Vegas, followed by the SotU.
Is the State of the Union going to be critiqued by the American Idol judges?
They would love duuuhboy. He would gave a whole popstar career! American idiot..er..idoliot.
I can't stand these speeches. It has nothing to do with who's giving the speech, I just can't stand the theatrical format. A bunch of platitudes that everybody stands to applaud, a bunch of applause lines that the opposition party refuses to applaud, and some theatrical gestures to people in the gallery. Totally boring.
Considering how badly Time's pollsters screwed the pooch in the 2004 election, I'm surprised anybody pays any attention to their polls.
I will say this ad infinitum: Most polls today are not accurate because the pollsters are adjusting their data based on outdated assumptions about the American political landscape.
Jeff P., Ruk would make a fine president. Here's his first and last State of the Union speech: "To maintain your existence would be illogical".
Captain, didn't the Times polling come within a point or two of the final result?
Is it just me, or did we all get a warm fuzzy feeling at a reference to Cop Rock?
I just can't stand the theatrical format. A bunch of platitudes that everybody stands to applaud, a bunch of applause lines that the opposition party refuses to applaud, and some theatrical gestures to people in the gallery. Totally boring.
That's why all speeches should be sung in rhyming couplets.
It's been five years since the towers fell,
the deficit is going to hell,
two thousand Americans are dead in Iraq
from all those dang insurgent attacks. . . .
You get the idea. We can have Toby Keith write the soundtrack for it.
It's never boring in the World of Warcraft and except for gold farmers everyone loves each other.
Raise a toast to the Lunar Festival.
Another idea for a SOTU format change inspired by the Tauren who just posted - the State of the Union culminates with a televised pvp (party versus party) raid or capture the flag game on either WoW or Counterstrike. The winning party gets to put a special logo on the American flag for one year, until the next uncompromising battle takes place. WooT!
Neeehaaaww, how about a songwriting contest jen?
Enjoy this SOTU preview!
http://homepage.mac.com/jholzner/iMovieTheater43.html
Cop Rock! LOL!
Boomers like me are doing just fine
We?ve got Gen X to hold the line
It?s money for all while I?ve got my sway
Keep your own cash, let the government pay.
Iraq is just great and so is the oil
My nefarious schemes aren?t kept out with tinfoil
Just look at Exxon?s great profits this quarter
There?s money for all if we continue the slaughter
The DOHS is meeting it?s goals
They come up with alerts at each dip in my polls
The war on drugs and also on terra
Keep my base activated when I speak like Y. Bera
In the previous State of the Union thread, I suggested that Bush should read "For Those About to Rock" (with cannons), and ChrisO astutely added that Cheney should do the whole Angus Young head-movement thing. I'm sticking with that recommendation.
Unless Bush wants to use haikus 🙂
If you don't like where our country is at,
remember: it's the fault of the Democrats.
Black Gold, Texas tea
Raison d'etra to elect me
Georgie Dubya Bush
It's usually 5-7-5, though there's a lot of leeway. And, of course, they're meant to be done in Japanese, so you're already "wrong" in using English.
Thoreau:
I can't stand these speeches. It has nothing to do with who's giving the speech, I just can't stand the theatrical format. A bunch of platitudes that everybody stands to applaud, a bunch of applause lines that the opposition party refuses to applaud, and some theatrical gestures to people in the gallery. Totally boring.
Could be worse - could be a PowerPoint presentation.
You've sat through your share of PowerNoPoint Presentations, I gather.
A PowerPoint presentation would be an improvement on most political speeches.
NATIONAL PROBLEMS
--terrorists suck
--war is expensive
--Democrats
CAUSES OF PROBLEMS
--they hate our freedom
--stop criticizing the President
--Democrats
SOLUTIONS
--expanded government powers
--stop criticizing the President
--Republicans
RELATED ISSUES
--War on Drugs: we're winning!
--war on terrorism: ditto
--deficit: no biggie
--civil liberties: Constituion is death pact
--Democrats: suck
IRAQ
--turned the corner
--insurgency in its last throes
--everything is fine
We can include patriotic clip art showing eagles and the Statue of Liberty. And the whole thing should be done in less than five minutes.
Tell me that's not an improvement over current political discourse. I dare you.
They say I don't have all power
But Gonzales says it's easy
To convince my court appointees
Of the unitary theory
I was told if it's action
Of the President's discretion
Then the President can do it
So go win the next election
- Josh
How about a short, Disney-produced film on the State of the Union? With Jiminy Cricket, of course.
A puppet show. With members of the Saudi royal family pulling the strings.
Or a monologue, ala Spalding Gray.
Considering his lack of public-speaking skills, Bush might also want to consider mime.
In a bold move to recapture the libertarian arm of the GOP for the 2006 elections, Bush invites Penn Jillete to use magic, guile, nudity, and dark humor to deliver the State of the Union address. Adopting Jennifer's latest suggestion, President Bush will be playing the role of Teller.
Only one solution: A mission to Mars!
"In the previous State of the Union thread, I suggested that Bush should read "For Those About to Rock" (with cannons), and ChrisO astutely added that Cheney should do the whole Angus Young head-movement thing. I'm sticking with that recommendation."
Aw jezus that's funny. What a mental picture. If that was on pay-per-view, I'd buy it.
I suggested that Bush should read "For Those About to Rock" (with cannons),
Depending on who the cannons were aimed at, I could get behind that.
a,
Get ready for the Blast Off!
And don't forget the Hype!
We're going into space.
Distinguished scientists
A pesky senator
And monkey turds leaking from the lab
All brought to us play-by-play by Howard Cosell
Have you noticed?
You're gong the wrong direction
We have,
But that's your problem
We planned it that way
We had to dispose of all of you so
We can spoil the final frontier
How dare you question our Star Wars plans
For the farce that they are?
You're going where no man has gone before
For rocking the boat
In our temple of doom
You're on a one-way ticket to Pluto
We wash our hands
Of you and your lost Ark
thoreau:
Totally boring.
Some betting or drinking games might help. E.g., how many times will Bush use the word family or families ? I'm saying 23.
I heard a rumor that if you play a recording of last year's SOTU backwards, you hear a message from Satan.
You mean it isn't backwards already? Damn.