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Electoral College Surprise

Jesse Walker | 12.21.2004 9:47 PM

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In an upset victory, all of New York's electoral votes went to dark horse "John L. Kerry."

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Books Editor Jesse Walker is the author of Rebels on the Air and The United States of Paranoia.

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  1. joe   20 years ago

    I know...

    for a FACT...

    that John L. Kerry was never wounded while commanded a Swift Boat.

  2. TJ   20 years ago

    Further proof that casting my vote in Brooklyn for John F. Kerry was a pointless exercise.

    I may never vote again.

  3. rastajenk   20 years ago

    Good.

  4. crimethink   20 years ago

    What a bunch of f***ups we elected to the college this time. In Minnesota, one of the electors accidentally voted for Edwards for president.

  5. thoreau   20 years ago

    crimethink-

    I recall reading that during the debates at the Constitutional Convention, one of the delegates gloomily predicted that the electors (paraphrasing) "won't be men of the first degree or even the second, but of the third or fourth."

    History has proven that guy right.

  6. JorgXMcKie   20 years ago

    Uh, crimethink, it's worse than that. Someone voted for John Ewards, not John Edwards. And what makes you think it was an accident. The Elector probably got confused by the butterfly ballot they use for Electors in Minnesota. (And he/she was probably around 90 years old, so it was hard to see and read the ballot.)

  7. Fenrisulven   20 years ago

    The Democrat Dilemma: Identifying voters dumb enough to fall for their propaganda, yet savy enough to cast a valid ballot.

  8. WSDave   20 years ago

    So this means that Kerry got even fewer vote than previously thought. Does this, in turn, mean that Bush really does have a "mandate"?

    WSDave

  9. Spear Shaker   20 years ago

    Obviously these electors were not on par with John Kerry's high I.Q. . .

  10. russ   20 years ago

    I'm guessing that, "John L Kerry" wasn't the seditious & treasonous swine that John F Kerry was and still is...

  11. Peter K.   20 years ago

    Isn't it "L. John Kerry"? I seem to recall some talk show guy stating the first name as "Liberal".

  12. clark   20 years ago

    John L. Kerry

    Maybe they remember him talking about Dick Cheney's daughter and just finished watching 'The L Word'

    L stands for lesbian outer!

  13. SixSigma   20 years ago

    In an upset victory, all of New York's electoral votes went to dark horse "John L. Kerry." ---

    Proving once again, that the government is incapable of even the easiest of tasks.

  14. David   20 years ago

    SixSigma this isn't a government problem, the government had nothing to do with it, it is a Democratic Party problem. I just want to know where the Democrates got these electors (Psst, wanna fifth of Jack Daniels?).

  15. Jesse Walker   20 years ago

    Uh, crimethink, it's worse than that. Someone voted for John Ewards, not John Edwards.

    It's even worse than that. The same elector voted Edwards for vice-president, too.

  16. SixSigma   20 years ago

    David -

    Ah yes, the Democrats screwed up the actual form, but I'm assuming the election commision in the state of NY reviewed and accepted it as is.

    I wonder if there's any election law stating the electoral votes have to go to someone actually on the ballot? I know they differ state by state, and most don't require you to cast the electoral vote for the person recieving the most ballots cast in their favor, but am curious if you can just simply pick anyone you want.

  17. thoreau   20 years ago

    I'm glad that we have an elite body to act as an intermediary and make sure that the people don't elect the wrong person.

    Oh, wait....

  18. Isaac Bartram   20 years ago

    I'm just grateful for politicians ready to deliver my god-given right to entertainment.

  19. crimethink   20 years ago

    SixSigma,

    In the case of Minnesota, the story said that, since the electors cast unsigned, secret ballots, that the votes could not be retracted --even if one of them realized and admitted their mistake. So I'm guessing the election commission isn't allowed to proofread them.

    What would be funny is if Kerry had won Ohio. Would he still get credit for NY's electoral votes? Or would some unknown John L Kerry from MA (and I'm sure there are plenty of them) get 31 electoral votes, leaving JFK with less than 270? Of course, there would be tremendous pressure on Bush and the House Repubs to play nice and let Kerry win, for the good of the country. But if Bush won the national popular vote, the scenario might be more complicated...

  20. tough love   20 years ago

    Let this be a lesson to possible future Libertarian electors:

    Do not, I repeat, do not get high the night before the vote!

  21. Faithless Elector   20 years ago

    tough love: really, I didn't mean to vote for Dick Bush, but it just looked so rad, man, I mean, dick and bush on the ballot together, far out

  22. LibertsforJLK   20 years ago

    Does anyone know JLK's views on gun rights? The war on drugs? Gay marriage?

    Libertarians should seek common ground with this political titan immediately, as he has already won more than the LP has achieved in four decades of existence.

  23. Hilary P Clinton   20 years ago

    Liberts,

    That's the ticket! The LP just has to nominate someone with a name deceptively similar to the Democrat candidate. Even if that doesn't confuse the ordinary voters enough to generate a victory, we still have a chance when the electoral college convenes...

  24. Lemuel   20 years ago

    L. stands for Lammergeier... (dont ask.)

  25. thoreau   20 years ago

    I'm waiting for joe to explain that the Democratic electors were disenfranchised by a system that did not allow them to cast a valid ballot.

  26. joe   20 years ago

    There's a very useful legal term called "scrivener's error" to take care of situations like this, thoreau.

  27. Seamus   20 years ago

    Let's not let any of the electors' errors distract us from the fact that Bush voters are stoopid and that trivial errors only matter when you're spelling "potato(e)."

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