Stern Action
The Hollywood Reporter has all the scoop on Clear Channel's self-righteous dumping of Howard Stern's "vulgar" radio program.
"Clear Channel drew a line in the sand today with regard to protecting our listeners from indecent content, and Howard Stern's show blew right through it," [Clear Channel President John] Hogan said. "It was vulgar, offensive and insulting, not just to women and African-Americans but to anyone with a sense of common decency. We will not air Howard Stern on Clear Channel stations until we are assured that his show will conform to acceptable standards of responsible broadcasting."
The timing is tad (should I say a tit?) bit suspicious, especially since Clear Channel, the frequent target of attacks on "media consolidation," is always in a particularly vulnerable position when it comes to dealing with the Federal Communications Commission, whether we're talking about expanding its network or getting fined for saying bad words on the air (yeah, yeah, content regulation and ownership rules are separate functions, blah, blah).
On one level, this is all as it should be: If Clear Channel doesn't want to broadcast Stern, more power to 'em. Just like the way Wal-Mart either refuses to sell naughty pop CDs or hawks "edited" versions of them. The difference, though, is this, and it's a big one: Clear Channel is in a federally regulated marketplace and the FCC's jihad against "indecency"--including imposing fines on offending broadcasters and threatening license revocation--will mean that certain types of speech will be censored, despite demonstrated audience appeal for same. A minority of listeners in any given place can effectively shut down things.
So much for the "public interest," one of the things the FCC is supposed to look after.
[Thanks to reader Steve Heath of the Drug Policy Forum of Florida for the tip.]
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othello, that's fine if you don't like stern. don't listen!! you and the government have NO right to force your preferences on everybody else
blah blah blah... Howard Stern... blah blah blah... tasteless idiot... blah blah blah... contributions to society: nil... blah blah blah... serves him right.
heh2k -
If the airwaves are supposedly public property - meaning that every one of us "owns" a bit of the radio spectrum, then who should decide what the best use of that property is? What standards should be applied when deciding what is acceptable? It's naive to say "if you don't like it, just turn it off" when, in theory at least, MY property - my bit of the radio spectrum that I, being a memeber of the American public, own - is being used in a way that I do not approve of. Would you be willing to let someone take a little piece of your land that you are currently not using and,say, park their car on it? Hey, if you don't like it, you don't have to look at it, right?
Admittedly, the realities of "public" resources are complex, but the point is that the government - as the representative of the people -has the obligation to act in the "public interest" when it coems to managing public resources. If the majority of the public finds that a resource like the radio spectrum is being used in a way that they don't approve of, then the government HAS to act. You may perceive it as the government forcing my views on you, but how else should the government manage public resources? Before we get into the debate about whether the government should be in that business at all - and that's an important question - let's start with the the situation as it exists now. Assuming that the government will continue in this role, how else should they manage these things?
"If the majority of the public finds that a resource like the radio spectrum is being used in a way that they don't approve of, then the government HAS to act."
Is it a majority or a small number of loud, bored soccer moms? I'm more concerned about the public getting cash for Clear Channel's use of the airwaves. Are they paying fair market value for the use or is it another government giveaway.
I've always hated Howard Stern, but found that changing the radio dial was a hell of a lot easier, and more moral, than trying to impose my taste upon the rest of the country. And I am sick to death of these goddamned Puritans who seem to think that the sole purpose of human civilization, language, music, arts and literature is to set a good example for five-year-olds.
Will:
"blah blah blah... Howard Stern... blah blah blah... tasteless idiot... blah blah blah... contributions to society: nil... blah blah blah... serves him right."
You can call him a tasteless idiot who hasn't contributed anything to society, but his job is not to contribute to society. His job is to get people to listen to commercials.
He is one of the most successful people at doing this in the history of the medium of radio. He does his job better than anyone in the country, making hundreds of millions (and probably more) of dollars for Viacom, as well as tens of millions for the stations that carry his show.
I could say all the same things about Sean Hannity, but do I think he should be fined or dropped from radio stations for the crap he spews? Nope.
I wonder how exercised everyone would be if Rush Limbaugh were getting dumped for letting callers make jokes about 'n-ggers' and watermelon on his show.
Matt:
To answer your question about CC and the Dixie Chicks: no, they didn't organize any CD-smashing parties (that was one station in Louisiana), nor did they issue a company-wide ban on their music (Cumulus Media did on their country stations, the only broad-based ban I recall). They were actually quite hands-off on the Dixie Chicks. As for suddenly being the champions of all that is good and clean, it's all about keeping those broadcast licenses, nothing more.
Kevin, I dont know how fond of rewriting history you are, but Clear Channel did indeed BAN Dixie Chicks from being played on any of thier 1200 stations.
People here in Colorado know all too well about that ban since 2 local DJs here protested the ban, played the Dixie Chicks anyway and were suspended by the management of thier respective station. Thier particular station is NOT owned by Clear Channel, but were one of the many independant stations who answered Clear Channels call to stop playing. Here is a link to the article and the choice quote:
"The independent station does not belong to any of the radio conglomerates, such as Clear Channel Communications, that were instrumental in organizing and continuing the witch-hunt against the Dixie Chicks."
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/may2003/dixi-m09.shtml
This is just one of many instances I found of media reporting that Clear Channel was behind the Dixie Chick ban. If you need further evidence, use google, its a great resource. Clear Channel and Dixie Chicks and boycott turn up a number of results.
I don't mean to pee into this conversational pool, but shouldn't libertarians support the Clear Channel ban of the Dixie Chicks? They are a privately owned company. Granted, they were allowed to buy control of a huge percentage of communications outlets, which means that their one decision meant entire areas of the country couldn't listen to the Dixie Chicks, but libertarians are opposed to the regulation of monopolies or oligopolies (if that's the right word). What aspect of unadulterated libertarian philosophy says it was bad for Clear Channel to bully the Dixie Chicks?
(I am playing Devil's Advocate, by the way; I LOATHE Clear Channel, and support the regulation of how many communications outlets any individual person or company should be allowed to control. But that's just me, and I know most Reason readers disagree. Which is why I ask if a true libertarian would oppose the Dixie Chick ban.)
Come on, man. Your words, "will mean that certain types of speech will be censored, despite demonstrated audience appeal for same," are ridiculous. I'm sure there are plenty of people wanting to hear Stern say to a woman many things, but does that simply mean we should allow it? Demand produces supply, but somewhere morals and decency need to come into play.
Late:
What Dan said. The web is full of misinformation. Plenty of stations yanked the Dixie Chicks' music last March, some owned by CC, some not. The Colorado incident was a reaction to a decision by that station's management.
Full disclosure: I work for a CC adult contemporary station that continued playing the Dixie's cover of "Landslide" after the backlash hit. There was no memo from corporate instructing stations what to do. That's all I was saying when answering the question earlier.
Clear Channel is justifiably infamous for one-size-fits-all management in some areas, but not this one.
Ok Dan, I will concede, there are tons of links to clear channels boycott to the dixie chicks, but none of them will satisfy your definition of 'credible' so its useless to post them.
But I will submit for the record, Clear Channel syndicates thier radio programs, and since the station that they syndicate thier country music FM 102.5 KNIX Phoenix AZ DID boycott the Dixie Chicks, then ALL Clear Channel Country stations clearly did not play Dixie Chicks music untill the boycott was lifted by KNIX.
Just like Howard Stern will no longer be syndicated by Clear Channel the Dixie Chicks were no longer syndicated.
Clear Channel DID however sponser pro-war rallies all across the United States, which included Dixie Chick CD mass burnings very outspoken wording against Dixie Chicks and other anti-war supporters, and here in Colorado Springs the Clear Channel pro-war ralley included some of the most disturbing racist comments I have ever heard repeated on local news, by Clear Channel employees no less. If that is not a corporate sponsership then I dont know what to tell you...
Jennifer,
Don't confuse anger at what a private company does with support for the government to come in and "fix" the problem.
Despite what some people think, we are not just a bunch of shills for big industry. We just believe that using the power of government is an ineffective and immoral way to fix the problem.
Equality--
Point taken. But something just occurred to me: when talking about the airwaves and censorship, where does 'the free market' come in to solve the problem?
Consider: if, say, the Wonder Bread company decides to stop selling white bread in my state but sell only wheat bread for some reason, other bakeries will rush in, and the lack of white-bread availability will scarcely be noticed. But suppose a company owns all the radio stations in a particular market? The amount of bread in a given area can be increased by human activity but the size of the electromagnetic spectrum can't.
Right now the government 'owns' the radio bradcast spectrum in the Unites States, which means that if the government banned Dixie Chicks broadcasts (or the 'seven naughty words') I'd have to leave the ocuntry to enjoy them over the radio.
How would things be any better if we allowed Clear Channel or some other scumbag corporation to own the spectrum instead? It would be difficult for someone to get a complete monopoly in a given area, but once they did, how can 'competition' and 'the free market' solve the problem?
Jennifer,
First of all, I am not sure why any company would go to the trouble to buy up all of the EM spectrum only to broadcast things that people do not want to hear. There is a lot more money in broadcasting things that people do want to hear.
But assume for the sake of argument that that does happen. In a truly free market, internet and satellite radio stations would rush in to fill the void. Or something else would. As Julian points out in his Keeping the Faith
post (how do you embed a hyperlink, anyway?), no one can predict what will fill a service void, but if there is enough money in it, we can be sure that something will.
"First of all, I am not sure why any company would go to the trouble to buy up all of the EM spectrum only to broadcast things that people do not want to hear. There is a lot more money in broadcasting things that people do want to hear."
This is assuming that money is the only possible motivation. What about power, influence, maybe even spite?
Internet and satellite radio could not 'fill the void,' because there is no void to fill--all available bandwidth has been taken. So again I ask: how can the free market break this monopoly? I see how the free market can break a monopoly of a manufactured good or service, (let someone else manufacture the good or provide the service) but even the free market can't defy the laws of physics, which ultimately determine how much bandwidth is available.
>"It was vulgar, offensive and insulting, not just to women and African-Americans but to anyone with a sense of common decency.
Since Stern was technically banned for a bad word spoken by a man calling on the phone, shouldn't the phone caller be the one facing a fine?
Stern und drang.
The timing is more suspicious than that. The head of Clear Channel is being dragged in front of a congressional committee today and Stern has been particularly critical of Congresswoman Heather Wilson who sits on the committee.
Even if you think the government has some legitimate need to keep indecent content off the air, criticism of public officials should be beyond the control of same public officials.
Whatever brought this parting to a head,
Stern was singled out for the entirity of his show.
I believe it is only six stations.
Stern will make all the hay of it he can.
no doubt, stern and others (if wilson is aware of them) will be targeted for speaking out against her forcing her puritan beliefs on the whole country.
here in dc, don and mike were suspended for two weeks for "shit" getting on the air. one of the them said "bullshit" about 20 times, thinking the execs would dump it. they didn't so every word was broadcast.
what about a first amendment arguement against the fcc? if ever there were a case of government restricting speech, this is it.
while i'm at it, wtf is wrong with people? are they incapable of turning off the radio or tv, if they don't like it? kids only have access to radio, tv, and the internet through other adults.
so, once again, puritans want to dumb everything down to the level of a 6 year old.
The real villain in all this is FCC Commissioner Michael Copps, the ringleader of the pro-censorship, anti-consolidation faction. The most disturbing thing about Copps is his attack on media mergers based solely on a lack of "diversity"--in other words, he believes that mergers should be approved or denied, in substantial part, based on *racial* factors. I don't know about the rest of y'all, but I think the last thing America needs is a racist telecom regulator.
Did anyone actually hear the offending bit? I listened for a few minutes the day of, and surprisingly Stern said he was supporting Kerry over Bush for various reasons, including the FCC's recent statements regarding tittygate. Stern's been a big Bush supporter post 9/11. Didnt clearchannel execs organinze the DixieChic CD smashing parties and ban their music around the country after the criticized the Prez? Am I the only conspiracy nut on this blog?
A week after Stern starts with the "anyone but Bush" talk, the radio network that airs him discovers that he says indecent things on the air.
Who does he work for again? Pacifica? NPR? No, that's not it...
Anyway, media consolidation doesn't have any impact on what political ideas get broadcast. None. So just stop saying that.
DJ-
I mentioned earlier that I hate Howard Stern, but do you really think it's a good idea to bar speech that's offensive? Right now, you happen to agree with this decision, but what happens when people decide YOU are the one who's offensive? Should you not be allowed to broadcast your religion, if it offends those different from you? I personally am offended by those fire-and-brimstone radio broadcasts common throughout the South, stating that the majority of the world is going to Hell. Very offensive and disturbing for children, but let it stay on the air.
You won't find offensive speech on the radio in Saudi Arabia, that's for damned sure.
Meanwhile, I am still hoping someone will explain to me how the free market will solve the problem of monopolizing things that merely exist and cannot be added to, such as the electromagnetic spectrum.
This reminds me of a great scene in "private parts" (the Stern Biographic movie) his program director is talking to another guy about ratings, the guy tells him, 'the average fan listens to the show for an hour and fifteen minutes' the program director says, why do they listen, the guy replies, 'answer most given, they want to hear what he will say next' he goes on to say, 'the average person that doesnt like Stern listens for two hours and thirty minutes' the program director says 'thats crazy, why do they listen?' 'answer most given, they want to see what he will say next'
Its the truth, the more likley someone is to be offended, it seems the more they want to listen or watch whats offending them. It seems that people like to be offended, I talk to people who bitch about Hannity or Bill O'Reiley constantly and I just have to tell them, change the damn channel, but thats not what they do.
Near as anyone can tell, Janet's tit was the most replayed moment in TV history, we saw more shots of janets tit then we did of the two towers on 9/11. Tivo reported it was the most replayed moment they have EVER recorded, and yes, they were keeping track on 9/11 too....
America has an obsession with feigned outrage....
lftb, I'm outraged that you would suggest such a thing! In fact, I'm going to have to re-read your message to make sure.
Thanks for the plug, Nick. It's funny, that when I sent that into Hit and Run last nite, I told my wife, "I don't know why I'm doing this, they've likely already received a dozen mails on this topic."
As noted in my message to H&R last nite, this is by far the most interesting read of my day ever since I first got reefered to youse by my friend Josh in that Big Apple.
The offending bit wasn't even a bit. The guest was the guy from the Paris Hilton video and they took a phone call from a guy who asked him if he made sex tapes with any black celebrities. But he used a very bad word instead of black.
So the offending statement wasnt even made by Stern or any his cast. But they didn't dump the offending question.
"so, once again, puritans want to dumb everything down to the level of a 6 year old"
well, that's about the right age group for Stern et al. It seesm that by kicking this crud off the airwaves, the "puritans" are actually...what's the opposite of "dumbng things down"?..."smartening things up"
Steve--
Huh?
FCC fines & suspensions are free publicity for Howard. He could not buy this much free advertising.
You can say "Chingar", "Mierda" and all of their derivitives on Spanish language talk radio. The announcer will dress you down for it, but the FCC doesn't care.
lftb,
I bet lots of things TIVOed today would be more replayed than 9-11. TIVO has a significantly larger customer base now than it did only 3 and a half years ago. That's kind of like saying more people went to the Internet for news about the Cole bombing than they did for the OK City bombing.
"A week after Stern starts with the "anyone but Bush" talk, the radio network that airs him..."
More correctly, it would be 'a radio network that airs him.' Only six Clear Channel stations air the Stern program. Six, out of hundreds on other networks.
DJ--
I know a lot of educated, well-off people who like Howard Stern. I don't know why, but they like him.
Now here's my question: when and how did you become so important that your sensibilities trump those of others? Stern's fans can no longer have access to him, so that YOU don't have to take a second out of your life to change the channel?
Equality--
Please, stop talking about how "unlikely" an electromagnetic monopoly would be and just answer my question: How would the free market solve this problem? To answer your own question, no, I'm not fighting Bill Gates or any such thing. But I know from personal experience that there are many evil or spiteful people in the world, who will fuck around with the powerless not for money or personal gain, but simply because they can.
> do you really think it's a good idea to bar speech that's offensive?
dj,
I don't think you are paying for the Stern E show. I believe that the cable companies pay very little, or even nothing, for second tier cable channels like E. E makes its money off of advertising and if you dont watch than they make nothing off of you.
If it bothers you that much, you could always switch to satellite and put a block on any channels you find offensive.
Jennifer,
So your question is what if someone buys the entire EM spectrum (AM/FM/UHF/VHF/Satellite etc.) and then decides not to use the bandwidth supplying content that people want?
That's a little like asking what if someone bought the entire city of Pittsburg and then would not let anyone live there. Theoretically possible, but it seems like a lot more trouble than it is worth.
You asked before about the possibility of a zillionaire trying to force someone off of their land out of spite. This seems to be a big concern for you. Are you involved in a blood feud with Bill Gates or something?
For those of you who side against me in this,
and side with the Cable company (shame)
in my fight to have a minimum price for cable,
and then the shows bought a la carte,
that is the way the cable says it is, and will be.
I will pay my bill, will get Stern and can block him,
and the same for Springer, BET, ESPN, Home Shopping,
QVT, NASA channel, the fire dept channel,
and my local congressman's propaganda show, etc.
My premise: nothing is free.
When you say I get the channel for free,
forgive me for not believing you,
not when I pay a set monthly bill.
It's like the buy-one-get-one-free deal at the store,
it ain't free, if I can't get the free one
and not have to get the one I have to pay for.
I'm fighting windmills.
DJ-
You still didn't answer my question: why does your taste trump that of the many Howard Stern fans out there, and why must Stern's fans be required to pay for his broadcasts just so you don't have to spend a precious second of time changing the channel?
By the way, right now it is technologically not feasible to have "a la carte" cable; if they installed systems where you only chose specific channels, it would actually cxost MORE than the current system of paying for entire blocks of channels.
Forgot to mention, while you may be paying for Stern's show on cable, you never spent a penny for his radio show, and it's the radio show that was yanked from the air.
> I don't think you are paying for the Stern E show. I believe that the cable companies pay very little, or even nothing, for second tier cable channels like E....If it bothers you that much, you could always switch to satellite and put a block on any channels you find offensive.
> I know a lot of educated, well-off people who like Howard Stern. I don't know why, but they like him.