Tonight on The Independents: Penn Jillette, Anti-NSA Politics, Minimum Wage Hypocrisy, Beyonce’s Behind, SOTU Preview, and Interview With Prohibitionist Kevin Sabet

Tonight's live episode of Fox Business Network's The Independents (9 pm ET, 6 pm PT, repeats at midnight) will feature an in-studio interview with all-purpose entertainer, bullshit-detector, and super-libertarian Penn Jillette. The conversation with taller, louder half of Penn & Teller will range from his participation in the Rachael Ray Vs. Guy Fieri Celebrity Cook Off to tomorrow's State of the Union address to Afghan President Hamid Karzai's semi-ultimatum for the U.S. to negotiate with the Taliban or get the hell out of Afghanistan. Did you miss Jillette's previous appearance on The Independents? Here's a taste:

In an exchange that will likely be less friendly, Kevin Sabet of the pot-prohibitionist SAM (Smart Approaches to Marijuana) will be on to talk about the split over marijuana between President Barack Obama and Drug Enforcement Administration Michele Leonhart. Tonight's Party Panelists, Townhall Political Editor Guy Benson and Russell Simmons Political Director Michael Skolnik, will talk about the emergence of anti-NSA electoral politics, Hillary Clinton's (lack of) driving record, and Democrats' personal hypocrisy on minimum wage. And the Topical Storm will cover Angry Birds snooping, Sochi's gay-free population, Quentin Tarantino's copyright lawsuit, and whether Beyonce's booty is appropriate for television.

As always, send your tweets out to @IndependentsFBN and they may get used on air.

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  • Fist of Etiquette||

    LIVE EPISODE? Anything can happen. Literally.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Like a wardrobe malfunction...for Welch?

  • SweatingGin||

    Odds on Welch melt down?

    As always, if she says "womb broom", you have to finish you drink.

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    Penn Jillette - hell yeah. I've been sending my daughter links to some of his stuff on youtube last week as a bit of a pre-primer.

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    Also, iphone auto-corrects his name to "Penn killer the". FYI.

  • Smilin' Joe Fission||

    Has Francisco mentioned how much he loves Stossel Penn Jillette?

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    It's a man-crush.

  • ||

    Are you going to jerk us around about the hate mail segment again? I'M ADDICTED NOW.

  • Matt Welch||

    You'll be dining out on that for a year!

  • ||

    Is that a yes?

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Hey Matt, can you have a word with the weekend crew? We don't mind the retread articles, but leaving the retread comments attached is a huge pain in the ass.

  • Bam!||

    First one was a free sample. Henceforth you'll have to pay for it.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    Reason dropped the ball on this one. Yesterday was the 40th anniversary of D&D:

    "... the last Sunday of the month (this year, the 26th) seems like the best candidate. As the El Conquistador advertisement above notes, Sunday was the day when Gary invited the world to drop by his house, at 1:30 PM, to have a first experience of Dungeons & Dragons."

    http://bit.ly/1hGygIh

    Why not celebrate by rolling yourself a...20 sided die!

  • Killaz||

    Some more D&D related trivia:

    http://www.theguardian.com/art.....-game-doom

    We started work on something new in January 1993, putting out a press release announcing all the revolutionary things it was going to do: we said we fully expected it to cause the biggest loss of productivity in the world ever.

    Then one day we were playing Dungeons & Dragons at the Texas HQ of our company, id Software, like we had done for years. John Carmack, lead programmer, was Dungeon Master as usual. I got greedy trying to procure a magic sword and caused the entire world to be overrun by demons. Something just clicked. We all loved sci-fi, especially Aliens: it was a fast-action movie and id wanted fast-action games. So what if – instead of finding aliens, like in every movie in the world – a player opened up a portal to hell? Your character, a space marine on a Martian base, would then have to fight all the demonic monsters pouring out.

  • Ted S.||

    Id, id, id, monsters from the id.

  • Bobarian||

    Why not celebrate by rolling yourself a...20 sided die!

    Followed by years of bad skin, awkward and fearful conversations with girls, and being beaten by bullies!

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    Correlation, not causation.

  • Agammamon||

    Like cigarettes and cancer.

  • Pope Jimbo||

    Oh yeah? If D&D is so great for hooking up, why does like every ad in Craig's List say "D&D Free"?

  • Killaz||

    Describes no one I ever played D&D with as a kid growing up in the eighties. Though one of my buddies is now in the same prison as Charles Manson after killing the rich gay lover in Los Angeles he was hustling and becoming a wanted fugitive when he stole the guy's sports car and an exotic bird along with taking two teen age girls along for the trip.

    Seriously, if someone finds an old clip of this story, Mark Self is the name, I would love to have the link.

  • Killaz||

    He was caught in the forest surrounding Fort Bragg if that helps.

  • Bobarian||

    I think I was stationed there around that time

  • Killaz||

    Glad it wasn't such an ordinary event that it went unnoticed. Yeah, he was a good friend of mine. We shared a lot of interest. D&D, Aleister Crowley, occult in general, Lovecraft, Heavy Metal magazine, classic German print art like Dürer, practically a doppelganger. Well, hustling tail, not so much of that activity on my side.

    As gloomy as that list may sound, it was military school that really fucked him up.

  • SweatingGin||

    And your step mom throwing out all your DnD books because Phil Donahue or someone said to?

  • sarcasmic||

    The same Pen Jillette who's on Rachael vs. Guy: Celebrity Cook-Off?

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    I'm not sure whether that's a step up or down from The Apprentice, since I've never seen either of them. Still, I'm going to guess... "down".

  • sarcasmic||

    The guy has bills to pay, just like the rest of us.

  • Irish||

    Penn has always been willing to show up on virtually any show that will have him.

    I think he just really likes being on T.V.

  • anon||

    More likely just the money generally associated with being on TV.

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    More power to him. He's got a lot of charisma and I've got a few acquaintances whose interest in him as a celebrity became a foot in the door for me to introduce them to his political thinking.

  • sarcasmic||

    Great show. Only one problem: More people watch MSNBC than FBN.

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    I assume that Rachael vs. Guy: Celebrity Cook-Off has more viewers than both of them combined.

  • anon||

    Well, until Fox gets their shit together and starts letting me stream their damned shows without cable access, it's going to stay that way.

  • Trials and Trippelations||

    Someone posted this a few Independent threads ago to help those that don't have cable.
    Only stream 2 works.

  • Killaz||

    Oh, hate mail, hmm, think of something. You are all poopy heads, and your faces look like poop. Your ideas are poop. Prague is the poopiest city on the planet, and veejaying is the poopiest job outside of a Berlin scat show. Hey, that last one was almost inspired, Go with that one!

  • SweatingGin||

    Wearing welch and Kmele as ear rings tonight? Too far, Kennedy, too far.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    This is a tough crowd. The D&D anniversary article hasn't gotten a single nibble so far.

    All right, try this one:

    "School ditches rules and loses bullies

    "Ripping up the playground rulebook is having incredible effects on children at an Auckland school.

    "Chaos may reign at Swanson Primary School with children climbing trees, riding skateboards and playing bullrush during playtime, but *surprisingly* the students don't cause bedlam, the principal says. [emphasis added]

    "The school is actually seeing a drop in bullying, serious injuries and vandalism, while concentration levels in class are increasing.

    "Principal Bruce McLachlan rid the school of playtime rules as part of a successful *university experiment*." [emphasis added]

    http://tvnz.co.nz/national-new.....es-5807957

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    OK, a couple comments on the D&D post. I thought at first I was [spoiler alert] Bruce Willis in The Sixth Sense.

  • SweatingGin||

    No, you're just a figment of epi's imagination.

    we all are

  • SweatingGin||

    I was trying to see if I could still quote page numbers from the DMD and PHB (2nd edition, of course). I can't, but I'm fairly sure a Beholder has 8 hit dice, wish is a ninth level spell, and putting a portable hole inside a bag of holding May destroy the universe or trap the party in a pocket universe.

  • ||

    DORK ALERT

  • SweatingGin||

    Someone failed a charisma check.

  • ||

    "Anyone wanna play Dungeons & Dragons for the next quadrillion years?"

  • Surly Chef||

    Fireball was/is a 3rd level spell and not particularly useful in most classic dungeon crawls.

  • SweatingGin||

    Lightning bolt and fireball are both great ways to accidentally your whole party.

  • Agammamon||

    Yeah, 'accidently', amirite?

  • cryptArchy||

    I don't have a Cyclo handy but I do recall off the top of my head that the portable hole and bag of holding will tear a hole in the fabric of space and time. You are correct sir!!!

  • Hyperion||

    D&D is de debil!

  • Trials and Trippelations||

    One of the many negative aspects of my short teaching career was recess. The school systems are so scared of lawsuits that teachers literally have to write reports and call parents immediately for every little scrape or bump. Waste of my time, students' time, and parents' time.

    The poor kids are so shackled. Schools were never so similar to prisons as they are now.

  • Killaz||

    That reminds me. I ran into a kid this morning when I stopped by the shop to get my coffee fix. I saw a piece of tape on his shirt, and stopped him to tell him, thinking it was part of a tag he didn't see when removing the rest. He told me that they have to cover up labels at his school. They are not allowed to show identifying markers. I said, 'Holy shit, dude. We use to wear Jack Daniels shirts to school.'

    I didn't want to embarrass him further and let it go from there.

  • Ted S.||

    If he goes to a public school, you should have told him to challenge the school on 1A grounds.

  • ||

    Why don't they just introduce uniforms and be done with it? My kid can only wear plain white and blue clothes at her elementary school.

  • Killaz||

    I suspect it's an anti-commercial exploitation asshole in their chain of command who wants to underline that message, and not a concern about strict dress policy because none of the kids on that route along my way to work look very formal.

  • montana mike||

    We used to play a game we called ducks on the pond. 7 or 8 would line up against a brick wall and everyone would pelt them with those soft rubber playground balls that are still around. If you got hit you were out last one standing won. It was great and a good workout. Even broke my nose running into a girls back dodging a projectile. Bled like a stuck pig all afternoon in class but was back the next day. My Mom took it in stride, had 6 rug rats including 4 boys in 4 years she was familiar with bumps and bruises.

    Seems to me concern trolls have succeded in ruining childhood, I had a blast back in the 60's.

  • Gene||

    Seems to me concern trolls have succeded in ruining childhood

    Now that's out of the way, Sabet and others are concentrating on the rest of our lives.

  • anon||

    But you've yet to answer the questions that are of the utmost importance to me: Why do libertarians hate children and want us to let the terrorists win?

  • Hyperion||

    Take up your monocle and travel the roadless path, weedhopper, and one day you may be worthy to learn the truth.

  • Ted S.||

    When are you guys going to have Teller on? ;-)

  • Agammamon||

    They can't. Everything out of Teller's mouth is nothing but a stream of profanity

  • Derpetologist||

    Breaking news- Karl Marx was a complete asshole and hypocrite:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA2lCBJu2Gg

  • ||

    So was Napoleon.

    What he did to Venice is unforgivable.

  • Derpetologist||

    Breaking news- Karl Marx was a complete asshole and hypocrite:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA2lCBJu2Gg

  • Ted S.||

    Somebody broke it just above you. :-p

  • sarcasmic||

    Does that mean we can finally discredit his ideas because he was a bad person?

    Can we finally use the left's beloved ad hominem against one of their own?

  • Bobarian||

    No. no, those ad hominems are only allowed to go one way...

  • Derpetologist||

    Turnabout is fair play.

  • Dead or In Jail||

    If you interview that wannabe dictator Sabet and you don't blow dank smoke in his face and fail put your ashes out on his forehead, Welsh, then you are a giant pussy and I will be ashamed of you until your dying breath.

  • anon||

    you are a giant pussy and I will be ashamed of you until your dying breath.

    But how does that differ from your current opinion?

  • ||

    I think the real question is, when are they going to let Kmele rip someone's head off? You guys are all too reserved. Get angry!

  • kibby||

    I don't think he wants to get blood on his nice cardigans.

  • ||

    It's not about what he wants. It's about what I want. And I've watched several of these. They owe me! You hear me, Matt?

  • Bobarian||

    Isn't this the only reason to have one of those nifty handkerchiefs in your breast pocket?

  • kibby||

    I think the fact that they're amazing is sufficient reason.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    I think that an earlier poster said that if you're nice to guests, they'll keep coming.

    Otherwise, you're reduced to bringing on people who are so starving for attention they are willing to endure public humiliation if only they can get some airtime.

  • Bam!||

    Being nice to guests risks turning The Independents into an unchecked platform for communist propaganda.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    Bill Buckley was polite to his commie guests, unless you count Gore Vidal.

  • Irish||

    I'm pretty sure he called Vidal a 'queer' on someone else's show. I don't think that was on Firing Line.

  • Irish||

    I just looked up Firing Line on Wikipedia and found this gem:

    For the show's 15th anniversary in 1981, Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Vernon Jordan, Henry Kissinger, and Louis Auchincloss presided over a party for Buckley at the New York Yacht Club.[1]

    The fact that Buckley had a televised party at a yacht club is one of the least surprising things I've ever heard.

  • Killaz||

    Highly confused commie guy is coming back every other week, isn't he?

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    You think the Independents is going to run for 20 seasons like the Simpsons or something?

    Let go out in a blaze of glory, by that I mean the 3 of them beating Meyerson to death, live on-air.

  • anon||

    I'd buy Satellite/Cable again to watch that.

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    I don't want to win through violence.

    I want them to convince him of the utter futility of everything he believes in, and then offer him the gentleman's way out.

  • ||

    Not without Skinner, Fat Tony, Krusty, Sideshow Bob, Groundskeeper Willie and Uter they ain't.

  • ||

    It's a fine line indeed but if you believe in your principles and you see the person on the other side is an intellectual defective, then, they deserve all the scorn they get. Like that idiot Myserson. He has no principles or ideas. He's just a douche.

  • Agammamon||

    Or, OR! You could just kidnap 'em.

  • ||

    Who is Kmele exactly?

  • Hyperion||

    I thought that he was the token black guy on the Independents. You know, the Uncle Tom who got off the Democrat plantation, where he don't belong. Is that the Kmele we're talking about?

  • ||

    Ha! I was thinking token as well. But you said it first.

    So.

  • Hyperion||

    Well, my reputation as a first class citizen was already ruined when I registered to vote at the DMV as a libertarian, so I can say whatever I want.

  • Raymond Luxury Yach-t||

    He's the articulate and clean one.

  • Bobarian||

    Joe Biden approves this message

  • Killaz||

    Since I have had Diamond Dogs on vinyl for thirty years now, I never saw the need to get it on any other medium. Just two alternate tracks. WTF!?!

    But then I heard this version of 'Candidate' for the first time over the weekend, and holy shit is it ever planted in my skull.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBwDGiGwzE0

  • Bobarian||

    Outstanding!

  • Hyperion||

    I never paid any attention to Bowie at all until that MTV video, Jazzin For Blue Jean.

  • Ted S.||

  • Derpetologist||

    Bernanke the Central Banker, sung to the tune of Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uBLlfNlFxI

  • Bobarian||

    Not outstanding!

  • Sevo||

    Bam!|1.27.14 @ 8:34PM|#
    "Being nice to guests risks turning The Independents into an unchecked platform for communist propaganda."

    Oprah without the charm.

  • John Galt||

    Define: charm

  • anon||

    John Pron.

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    Tiny, stale marshmallow.

  • John Galt||

    I thought maybe he was trying to squeeze a huge massive body into a subatomic particle.

  • Sevo||

    How strange.

  • John Galt||

    Witty.

  • Sevo||

    Not bad on your side; I had to look up the breeds of quarks.

  • Sevo||

    'scuse me; "flavors"

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • anon||

    Opossum meat counts as exotic?

    Fuck, I could've been as rich as Bill Gates by now!

  • ||

    Beaver is listed as exotic as well.

    All I know is I don't think 'exotic' when I think beaver AND Canada.

  • montana mike||

    I was logging in the swamps in Lousiana circa 1980. We had a cajun night watchman. I still recall what he said referring to cajuns and cuisine, "dem coonasses, if has more than 2 legs and can't talk they'll eat it.

  • ||

    My god, that site could be my downfall. I've only eaten a fraction of the meats they have for sale. I need to eat them all.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    I'd fucking eat a lion.

  • Rhywun||

    Too bad the lion penis is sold out.

  • ||

    There have to be some other penises available, right? What is this world coming to?

  • Rhywun||

    It's lion or nothing.

  • From the Tundra||

    How about Lionfish? Kind of a thrill to eat something that can kill you back.

  • Hyperion||

    I'm not making this up. Last time I was at the DMV to renew my license, just a couple of months ago, there was a video showing on their subliminal mind control TVs talking about how we all need to eat Lionfish. I have no idea why. Are they an invasive species or something?

  • Locke||

    They are an invasive species (in the Atlantic). They pretty much vacuum up every other organism in the water. We held massive lionfish hunts in the Caribbean. They taste pretty good! Tender white flesh and a bit fatty.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    It's the eye of the tiger and penis of the lion. That's just the way it is.

  • Hyperion||

    So, if I can get both an eye of tiger and penis of a lion, what sort of a potion can I brew? Is it like cat scratch fever potion or something?

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    According to what I know about Chinese Traditional Medicine, it would make you want to fuck cats. Hard.

    Gong hay fat choy!

  • ||

    My wife is down with lion. She's a carnivore.

  • John Galt||

    How do you feel about bonobo chimp steaks?

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    I'm down with 99.98% cannibalism.

  • Killaz||

    Tastes like people but lacks the moral mayhem. Stick to people, unless it makes someone cry.

  • Bobarian||

    Stick to people, because it makes someone cry.

    FTFY

  • The Bearded Hobbit||

    For my 50th I did a "critter fritter", serving twelve different beasts and fowl, prepared in a similar manner in a blind taste test. Oryx won, hands down.

    ... Hobbit

  • Raymond Luxury Yach-t||

    I want to try haggis. Damn prohibitionist.

  • Bam!||

    Guinea pigs cost $40? That seems expensive.

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    IT'S A 49.99 VALUE.

  • John Galt||

    If only we had known my little sisters were harboring gourmet meat in their bedrooms...

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Just remember it call it cuy.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    INDEPENDENTS GATHER ROUND!

  • anon||

    I'm listening to the commercials. This is fucking horrid.

    "Move to New York, and pay no taxes for 10 years!"

    Fucking Samuel Jackson and Capital One?

    What has the world of TV been reduced to?

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    Was there some previous era when the commercials were not horrid?

  • anon||

    I just don't remember them being this bad. It reeks of desperation, not of promoting products that people might actually want unless separated from their faculties of reason.

  • John Galt||

    I've been getting hit hard by Capitol One ads lately. Smells like another likely huge bailout on the horizon.

  • The Bearded Hobbit||

    You know that you guys are in competition with ST2:WOK on EPIX, right?

    Just sayin'.

    ... Hobbit

  • Bam!||

    They're also in competition with Tight Teen Holes on XREAL.

    Just sayin'.

  • ||

    I own it.

  • anon||

    Wait, Tight Teen Holes or Wrath of Khan?

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    Do you really have to ask?

  • ||

    I would never pay money for porn, dude. Come on.

  • Bobarian||

    You'd probably never pay for ST:WOK either, you pirate!

  • Bobarian||

    I'm gonna guess both?

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    Khan loses, Spock dies.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I.. have had... enough of YOU!

  • Agammamon||

    That's the *next* movie.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Movie?

  • ||

    Dreamcatcher earrings again? I expected more from you, Kennedy.

  • Bam!||

    She bought those earrings from a Native American mystic. Told her they'd bring her good fortune. He lied.

  • Terr||

    But they come with a free frogurt!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Terrible knot on that tie.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    AND FOSTER ISN'T EVEN WEARING A TIE.

  • Bam!||

    Hillary is looking OLD.

  • Bobarian||

    Not LOOKING, IS

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Bitches get old sooner.

  • kibby||

    This is why there are no...you know the rest.

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    Good-looking old bitches.

  • anon||

    Nobody will be surprised Hillary hasn't driven in almost 20 years. She's lived in NY and DC most of the time; neither location could a car be considered an asset instead of a liability.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Seamus had a dog's eye view of Mitt driving his own car.

  • Bobarian||

    That's a good one!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Yes. Yes it was.

  • ||

    Kennedy's English accent is terrible, but she's cute so it's okay.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Organic milk. White host problems.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Ha. Graham's uterus knocked Welch off his game.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Lindsey Graham is the biggest warmongering shitbag on the planet.

  • Ted S.||

    There's some stiff competition for that title. :-(

  • Hyperion||

    It's a tossup between him and chief warmongerer McCain.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    I think Graham is worse. McCain at least denounced torture. I think Graham would put bamboo shoots under his daughter's fingernails if he suspected she stole a cookie.

  • anon||

    BOOOOOOOSHHHH!

  • The Bearded Hobbit||

    Let your guests talk!

    ... Hobbit

  • ||

    Did Kennedy just punk the shit out of that guy? There's a reason I like her.

  • The Bearded Hobbit||

    She sold me tonite.

    ... Hobbit

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    "We're not good on spying but the GOP spied on Muslims!"

  • Bobarian||

    Correction: EXPANDED under the Obama Admin

  • Bobarian||

    Both NSA and Imperialism

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Welch hitting it on the head. Not too many Dems primarying Dems on domestic spying at this point.

  • Bobarian||

    I think Dems won't start primarying themselves until they think their candidates can win

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    They're going to get destroyed in the mid-terms. Now is the time.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    So, what did I miss?

  • The Bearded Hobbit||

    KAHNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!

    .. and back to Kennedy.

    BTW, you guys are on fire tonite.

    ... Hobbit

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I doubt Kennedy would have called a white president a garden slug.

  • Bobarian||

    Lacist

  • SweatingGin||

    This slagging on alcohol is offensive, potheads.

  • Bobarian||

    Yeah, fuck off Welch!

  • Killaz||

    What? I'm not watching this in real time. Fast Forward and I are too close, but did they just slam alcohol? Knowing most of us are toasted?

  • SweatingGin||

    just the anti pot guy, mostly. I was only sorta paying attention, tbh.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Sabet has a nuanced approach to prohibition.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Mental illness? Is he saying reefer really does drive you mad?

  • ||

    It's not a nuanced debate, asshole. You're either able to put what you want in your body or you're not.

  • ||

    Unless what you want comes from, or is attached to, Warty, in which case you should probably be thrown in jail for your own good. As well as that of humanities.

  • anon||

    Right... Heroin's just legal with a prescription.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    DON'T SPLIT SCREEN HIM WITH HIM WITH STONERS.

  • Killaz||

    Split screen him with Steve Jobs dropping acid and then building a company, or Dock Ellis pitching a perfect game. That would screw with the loser prohibitionist.

  • John Galt||

    This is like back when I used to listen to baseball games on the shortwave radio. Play by play - just have to use imagination to fill in the visual part.

  • Sevo||

    So you're not watching either?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    The entire criminal justice system thinks, yes, we should put bags of money, er, I mean, people in prison for marijuana.

  • Bam!||

    Can't let corporations, man! Only organic co-op drug dispensaries.

  • Ted S.||

    And it's Small Tobacco versus Big Government, anyway.

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    The industry I'm talking about is the Prohibition Industry, bitch.

  • ||

    Thank Jeebus Kmele is there. Matt, you need to pay him more than whatever you're paying him. Which is probably nothing.

  • Bam!||

    Now that was a Kennedy interrupt!

  • From the Tundra||

    Get him, Kennedy!!

  • anon||

    "People have been drinking for a long time, so it's ok. Pot's been smoked for a long time too, but I don't like it, so FYTW."

  • SweatingGin||

    She mad, yo.

    Awesome.

  • The Bearded Hobbit||

    Let your guests talk!

    ... Hobbit

  • The Bearded Hobbit||

    He *was* nice! Let him make his bogus argument, it's cool.

    ... Hobbit

  • Bobarian||

    When guests say stupid things, fucking get em!

  • The Bearded Hobbit||

    Sometimes you can let them hang themselves. Subtlety, patience and timing.

    ... Hobbit

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Do you hate Mexicans?

    I love that woman!

  • From the Tundra||

    I love her more, asshole. You just stick to Stossel, OK?

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    BUT SHE'S NEVER GOING TO LOVE EITHER OF YOU BACK!

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    YOU DON'T KNOW THAT!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Sabet agrees with every point you make about criminalization, but he wants prohibition.

  • Rhywun||

    Did I just hear that pot is Sched I because it's so addictive...?! W.T.F.

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    Yes, yes you did.

  • Rhywun||

    I just can't even.

  • From the Tundra||

    Sure you can. Just channel your inner proggie.

  • Rhywun||

    But it's utter nonsense. ... Oh, I get it now.

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    "The idea that repealing alcohol prohibition would fix all the problems we created by prohibiting alcohol is ludicrous."

  • ||

    Kennedy pitbulling someone is a wonderful thing. More, please.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    What is Kennedy on tonight?

  • kibby||

    Something that makes her totally awesome.

  • anon||

    I'd guess some kind of methamphetamine.

  • ||

    Whatever it is, I like it.

  • ||

    Tiger blood?

  • Snark Plissken||

  • SweatingGin||

    So the only argument he has left is "we don't want to create another big tobacco"

    Shit, turn the lights out, we've won. Game's over, closer is in. Go home, we've won. It's awesome.

    And as long as you don't do the state lawsuit to cartelize the weed industry, no big deal.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    One of the guests is totally wearing jeans with his shirt and coat.

  • Hyperion||

    If he's wearing tennies with a shirt and coat, especially the Addidas retro ones, total douchebag and certified loser.

  • The Bearded Hobbit||

    Wait, I've worn jeans with a sports coat. Oh, forgot, I don't care.

    ... "Fashion slave" Hobbit

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Wearing jeans with a sportcoat isn't as bad as wearing a suitcoat with jeans.

  • ||

    Hetero males can't tell the difference.

  • ||

    Have you ever seen Kornheiser when the camera shows him behind the desk? He's practically in bermudas and sandals.

  • Hyperion||

    Ok, I turned this on. Kennedy just called someone perverts... politicians I thinks it was. Commercial...

  • SweatingGin||

    Commercial for *belize*.

    Pretty sure John McAffee's house there is available. sounds like a nice place.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    What happened to that guy? Did he turn himself in before his free and fair trial offer expired?

  • Hyperion||

    He's returned to make the internet unhackable.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Exploding fist bumps, Welch?

  • From the Tundra||

    Hmmmm. How about Belize for a libertarian paradise?

  • SweatingGin||

    You need to read up on John MacAffee's adventures in Belize (they're awesome -- gang came to kill him, so he hired them, more madness).

    There's Galt's Gulch in Chile. Not sure how much of a scam that is yet.

    Honduras has free cities starting soon, and Panama is supposed to be great for starting a company.

  • From the Tundra||

    Well, looks like some CA research is in order!

  • Hyperion||

    I can't see the teevee over the sofa from here in my office. Am I gonna have to get my laptop? Fuck it.

  • kibby||

    ...Dump cakes? Seriously? Who the hell thinks this shit up? TV commercials are endlessly amusing anymore.

  • Bam!||

    Matt's air drumming looked a bit cerebral palsy.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    It took this long for Elvis to show up.

  • Hyperion||

    Kennedy hatez the poor!

  • Bobarian||

    Bondage and Discipline for the guests?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    You can't put a price on training kids to destroy the work market.

  • Bobarian||

    Obviously, you can. Make them pay for the college credits and don't pay them!

  • Terr||

    I'm still looking at the exotic meats.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    I think Reason pays $750 for their interns' stipends.

  • Hyperion||

    Anyone else notice that Kennedy is a way cuter nerd than Welch. Sorry, Matt.

  • Bobarian||

    Isn't any female nerd way cuter than Welch?

  • Killaz||

    I thought that pic he put up from his long haired days looked strikingly handsome like a Viking of a bygone era. He should embrace it, and toss this button down stuff that probably helped land him a gig with FBN. Now he has the gig, surely they are not going to fire him for growing out the emasculating day job business hair attire. If anything, for the greater good of not chasing people away from libertarianism, you don't want to come across as that square looking.

  • Hyperion||

    I'm the one that's been sayin that Matt's gotta get a goatee going and ditch the nerd glasses.

    Of course, a furry helmet with horns can't hurt your image among libertarians.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Who's paying the bar tab? It will have to be Kennedy; she's richer than the Pope.

  • SweatingGin||

    Skolnick: "Seven-six-two millimeter. Full metal jacket."

  • Bam!||

    Race card just got played.

  • Rhywun||

    Took him long enough.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    RACE CARD: PLAYED.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Oh, for the love of Christ.

    But, but he's bleck.

  • Bam!||

    On a hyper scale of "Can of Cola" to "Turkish Coffee," Kennedy is currently at "Undeniably awesome."

  • SweatingGin||

    ^ this.

  • From the Tundra||

    Seriously. They may have to change the name of this show.

  • Hyperion||

    Haha, Kennedy is kicking some ballz!

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    This getting chaotic. Kennedy turned me off with 'oil buddy' joke about Reagan and Tip O'Neill but flipped the switch back by going after this Michael guy. Wow.

  • Lady Bertrum||

    Kennedy is killing it! Go Girl!

  • The Bearded Hobbit||

    Agreed! Best bit of the evening, so far.

    ... Hobbit

  • anon||

    YOU DO THINGS TO PROTECT THE AMURKIN PEOPLE!

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    He seriously reminded me of Lee J. Cobb's character in 12 Angry Men. The one that breaks down into a bitter, vitriolic rant at the end.

  • Bobarian||

    The Racism Card, boiled down to it's purest extraction

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Damn, ON FIRE!

  • The Bearded Hobbit||

    ooo, slip of the ol' mask, there.

    ... Hobbit

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    Kennedy was READY for that race card.

  • Rhywun||

    You could actually see the steam coming out of that guy's ears.

  • Bobarian||

    When he started down that road, I could see steam coming off of Kennedy, too.

    I was aroused...

  • Christophe||

    Lol, racecard.
    Where did you find this guy? In a dumpster?

  • The Bearded Hobbit||

    Kahn is firing up Genesis.

    ... Hobbit

  • The Bearded Hobbit||

    So why did they waste time turning around? Fastest course would have taken them right by it under full acceleration.

    ... "Geek" Hobbit

  • SweatingGin||

    you shut your mouth that scene is perfect.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    They needed to escape the Mutara nebula, which was going to be turned into a new star system by Genesis. So I'm assuming they were heading towards the nearest exit.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Not a new star system, a planet. The nebula, like Regula I, orbits a star.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    From Hell's heart I stab at thee!

  • kibby||

    This is so making up for the abortion that Friday night was.

  • anon||

    What, specifically, is this guy saying Obama should do (via executive order) to "protect the murkin' peoples?" I missed that part of his argument while his head was exploding. Cause what I thought he was getting at was that people need to be "protected" from making "difficult choices."

  • Trials and Trippelations||

    Wow. After last week's boring healthcare show this is awesome

  • Bam!||

    Only one crow, so it wasn't an attempted murder.

  • ||

    I'm terrified too, Kmele.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Knockout game midair.

  • From the Tundra||

    No footage of the bird getting murdered?

  • ||

    Lantern-jawed? That's a generous description of Tarantino.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    It was all downhill since his appearance on Alias.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Kids watch the Grammys?

  • Rhywun||

    Maybe pre-teens. Can't imagine anyone over 15 or so watching it.

  • kibby||

    I was tempted to this year because of Josh Homme. Yum. But even he wasn't worth sitting through something like that.

  • Rhywun||

    I don't know who that is - yep, still over 15.

  • kibby||

    For shame! That man is a ginger god.

  • Bobarian||

    Gingers can't be gods, they have no souls.

  • kibby||

    They can if they're Josh Homme.

  • anon||

    Kids don't watch grammys anyways. Next.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    This is why I watch teh Independents.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    When is Arbor Day this year anyway?

    Still beats the shit out of Welch's Arbor Day song.

  • Bobarian||

    SugarFree'd it

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Answer my question and I shall free the link.

  • Bobarian||

    I will not be subject to your silly reindeer games!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    The desk is hiding it for Foster.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Kmele just called himself a primate. Racist?

  • Bobarian||

    Should the Grammy's be viewed.

    NO!

  • JW||

    That was a knowing touch on Kennedy's shoulder there, Penn.

  • Bobarian||

    Knowing, like in the biblical sense?

  • JW||

    Your call. It wasn't quite immaculate.

  • anon||

    NSA bird house, lol.

  • JW||

    Damn it!

  • ||

    This bird commercial is creepy as hell.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    For future NSA agents.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Penn is in studio and sitting next to Kennedy. Which means we won't be able to see what her leg and foot is doing underneath that desk...

  • JW||

    She's blinking messages to me in Morse code, which is all that really matters.

  • JW||

    NSA BIRDHOUSE!

  • Bam!||

    I think the CIA used something similar on terrorists until it was banned.

  • Hyperion||

    I'm very impressed with Kennedy. Nice acquisition, Reason.

  • Bobarian||

    Can't MTV get some love?

  • Hyperion||

    Too much water under the bridge, Bobarian, the love is lost.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    I'm still waiting for Dr. Dre and Ed Lover to get a show on ReasonTV!

    I mean, WTF Reason!

  • JW||

    I can't wait for The Jacket to absorb her essence.

  • Bam!||

    Penn looks like a giant compared to Kennedy.

  • Bobarian||

    He looks like a giant compared to most people.

  • anon||

    That reminds me, I need to get a penis mightier.

  • ||

    Does Penn have a crush on this guy?

  • SweatingGin||

    Tim's Veneer seems *too NPR* for me to want to see it. But Penn and Teller involved is damn interesting.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    How long until Jillette reminds us he doesn't do drugs including alcohol.

  • anon||

    I give it til 9:45.

  • Bam!||

    Off by a minute.

  • kibby||

    Only a minute off!

  • ||

    You have the prescience of a god.

  • Bobarian||

    It's how he gets to be first...

    by cheating!

  • Rhywun||

    One minute early.

  • JW||

    Did you forget already?

  • ||

    Reality is for people who can't handle drugs. Tom Waits said so!

  • Killaz||

    Work is the curse of the drinking classes. If he learned the pleasure of drugs and good booze, Penn would have to get a real job.

  • anon||

    FUCK! OFF BY ONE MINUTE!

  • JW||

    And there we have it folks!

  • From the Tundra||

    Anyone seen this movie yet?

  • From the Tundra||

    Booom!! 9:44

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Maybe he's got a job lined up with the coke lobby.

  • ||

    Kennedy sure knows how to mumble.

  • anon||

    Yeah, that's making me question my earlier assumption; I now think it's good ole' fashioned cocaine.

  • JW||

    I'm sick of these motherfucking reward cards on my motherfucking tv!

  • SweatingGin||

    “I’ve had it with these monkey fighting snakes on this Monday to Friday plane.”

  • ||

    I'm figuring there are TOO MANY FUCKING SNAKES ON THIS MOTHER FUCKING PLANE.

  • Bobarian||

    You are obviously not as prescient as JW or Fist.

  • JW||

    Who is?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I am.

  • JW||

    F-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-ST!

  • From the Tundra||

    Holy shit, Fred! What happened to you?

  • ||

    Stop calling me Fred. My name is Adolph.

  • John Galt||

    The Internet has allegedly Live The Independents

  • ||

    Is Kennedy coming on to Penn? I hope so.

  • From the Tundra||

    Shut up. Just. Shut. Up.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    That's good advice for him in general.

  • ||

    You shut up!

  • kibby||

    Everyone shut up or so help me, I will turn this thread around!

  • ||

    I regret that we meet in this way, kibby. You and I are of a kind. In a different reality, I could have called you friend.

  • kibby||

    *cries*

  • Bobarian||

    Hopefully those are tears of joy, because I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want that...

    /shivers

  • kibby||

    You don't know me!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    He was quoting Star Trek to you, if that helps you make your decision. (I don't know why he was; maybe because the Romulan was threatening to turn his warbird around.)

  • SweatingGin||

    You don't know me!

    That's a Wesley quote, right?

  • kibby||

    I should be ashamed because my dad raised me on Star Trek, but I'm woefully out of touch with it now.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Warming themselves at tire fires? That has got to smell great.

  • JW||

    Things have gotten so bad, they're eating the Michelin Man.

  • SweatingGin||

    Matt: "offered some members of the opposition places in government"

    Ukraine government told them "we know you're at a protest that we just made illegal a week or so ago. We know who you are, where you live".

    After the government sent that text message, there's no going back for those revolutionaries. They have to win, or they go to the gulag.

  • The Bearded Hobbit||

    Excellent point.

    ... Hobbit

  • ||

    Oh look, Matt worked up the courage to talk to Penn. Crush much, Matt?

  • JW||

    "Look, just keep your hands and feet away from Kennedy and no one gets hurt."

  • anon||

    Hah. I wonder if Matt's wife has gotten suspicious yet.

  • anon||

    "Hey, watch this, I'll make your wallet disappear."

  • Christophe||

    I forgot just how much ads are on TV. Holy crap.

  • Bobarian||

    How many rabbits can you pull out of your hat?

  • SweatingGin||

    you need fat, too. If you're just eating rabbits with no fat, you'll go crazy.

  • John Galt||

    Rabbit starvation madness.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    You can get that fat by not neglecting to eat the brains.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    That's easy. The real trick is pulling a hat out of a rabbit.

  • JW||

    You keep your rabbits in your hat?

  • ||

    Oh god, Kennedy talking to people on the street. This is extremely dangerous.

  • From the Tundra||

    Bring back the love!

  • Rhywun||

    OK I hate "man on the street" but it's better than the morning news.

  • SweatingGin||

    If by dangerous, you mean awesome.

  • JW||

    They edit out the murders.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Holy crap, conflating hizzoner and Obama?

  • anon||

    That canadian dude was awesome.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Oh Canadians, it's so cute when you act like your country is important. **pats head**

  • JW||

    What do you call a guy you hang on the wall, eh?

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    Serge?

  • SweatingGin||

    Art, eh. Have you seen him aboot?

  • ||

    America's hat? That's hate speech, Penn.

  • Bobarian||

    America: Canada's dingleberry?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    If we go down, we're taking our hat with us.

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    wait, what?

  • anon||

    Well ok, but it's going to be a bit awkward unless she's a ballerina.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    And Justin Bieber.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    There better be a Two Minutes of Hate segment on Wednesday's show!

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    And black market 100W incandescent bulbs.

  • SweatingGin||

    they're wonderful.

    Will traffic in black market 100W incandescents for Bitcoin.

  • playa manhattan||

    I'm keeping mine all to myself.

  • SweatingGin||

    I'll offer some for sale. I'm come up with a decent supply.

  • anon||

    That was only perfect because it made you look like a chinese salesman for either illegal or reverse-engineered cheap light bulbs.

  • SweatingGin||

    meh, if typos help, I'll play the part of sleazy salesman if it makes me those sweet-sweet bitcoins distributing black market light bulbs.

  • playa manhattan||

    I've gone to the trouble of adjusting the ramp rate on all of my switches so they'll last twice as long.

  • SweatingGin||

    Please explain.

  • playa manhattan||

    If you have a switch that goes from off to on instantly, it wears on the filament, and that's when most light bulbs burn out. If you have it come up to full brightness slowly, it extends the life of the bulb. In my dinning room, it takes 5 seconds to go from off to full brightness, which on average, will double the life of the bulb.

  • SweatingGin||

    Gotcha, thanks. I have those style of switches in my kitchen, nowhere else.

  • ||

    What kind of switch do you use?

    Any special kind or just turn on the variable slowly?

    I've tried variables switches with CFLs but they killed immedately.

  • playa manhattan||

    This only holds true for incandescents. I use these switches, so that I can also control the lights with my phone:
    http://www.amazon.com/Insteon-.....eon+dimmer

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

  • Bobarian||

    The president will say: Obamacare good. Republicans bad. Look over there! Elvis!

  • Sevo||

    You left out: Everybody should get paid the same amount!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Obamacare doesn't cover Bieber Fever.

  • Bobarian||

    Because religious fanatics are blocking O-Care's healing light?

  • SweatingGin||

    AHHH!! LOU DOBBS!

  • From the Tundra||

    LA and San Jose on NBCSP, stat!

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

  • SweatingGin||

    Hey man nice shot (not really, different vid)

  • playa manhattan||

    I'll never think of that song the same again after FdA's link a few weeks ago.

  • SweatingGin||

    yea, me neither, but I think I'll watch the vid of the fight again.

    Michigan Proletariat Radio had an interview with Darren McCarty on right before I picked up the Ginlette from school. It's the best journalism they've done in months (probably 18+). No,really. Everything they have is about fucking wolf hunting in the UP.

    /rant

  • ||

    The ONE fucking year I choose to not take Pavelski in my hockey pool he decides to have a #^^&@& career year. Fuck.

  • Killaz||

    Lol!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    AH! Lou Dobbs.

  • Christophe||

    Oh, fuck. Lou Dobbs is still alive.

  • Hyperion||

    Dobb Zombie!

  • ||

    AIGGHHH LOU DOBBS

  • Sevo||

    So did they bust the commie's chops this time?

  • SweatingGin||

    No Commie, but we got the prohibitionist from Patrick Kennedy's anti-pot org.

  • anon||

    Holy shit, did that guy have a stroke or something recently?

  • JW||

    You've been Dobbsed!

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    worse than a rickroll!

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    FYI: 'Rush' and '1: The Film' are out on blu-ray/dvd tomorrow.
    Get them.

  • JW||

    About damn time.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    The live stream is a repeat.

  • ||

    Will the episode be shown say in a few days on the site?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    They seem to have a place on the site to show clips from the show.

  • Hyperion||

    OMG, it's Opie Cunningham, talking about the Keystone Pipeline. What a fucking suckass job. He must really hate himself.

  • Hyperion||

    REPUBLICAN OBSTRUCTIONIZM!!!

    We don't need to stinkin government. We needz some executive action, AKA a dictatorship.

  • Bam!||

    Live stream buffering issues makes it unwatchable.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    It's okay for me at the moment. Check your dialup.

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    Is that what the AOL icon be for?

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    Working pretty well for me tonight too, but certainly been problematic on previous occasions.

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

  • ||

    Very nice. Thanks!

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    The guests actually get to talk a lot more during the ASS. Enjoying hearing Penn get the chance to give more than a soundbite response.

  • Hyperion||

    It's too fucking cold outside. Goddamn you lying ass warmmongers. You promised that I would have beach front property by now, and be able to grow pineapples, right here in Balmer. Lying pieces of shit, a pox on all of you, and my lawyer is now drawing up that lawsuit because I don't have enough winter clothing after investing in pineapples instead.

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    Roger that, -4F here at the moment.

    Prezident Obama, DO SOMETHING.

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    -22F.
    wind feel is -43.

    -4 would be amazing right now.
    Road salt/sand isn't effective at this weather.

  • SweatingGin||

    Probably doesn't compare to your arctic wastelands/ice-road-truckers winters, but I've had two windows break from the cold this winter (in the Detroit area, not like it's crazier here).

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    Those were actually bullets.

  • SweatingGin||

    I live in Detroit. I know what fucking bullet holes in windows look like.

  • All-Seeing Monocle||

    You're not supposed to fuck the bullet holes.

  • SweatingGin||

    Uhh... you go first.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Double-paned?

  • SweatingGin||

    Yea, just one pane of the two, on both windows. Not *that* old (15-ish years), either.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    That's cold....slither.

  • SweatingGin||

    oh come on, not even the version where Cobra Commanders slags the union for fucking up the shoot?

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • Hyperion||

    Damn, +20 here. They are saying it could go down to +3 tonight. It's TOO damn cold. Coldest winter in 100 years is what they are saying round these here parts.

    It's a maunder minimum, I'm telling you mini ice age deniers. The science is settled, mini ice age, biaatchees! Freeze your fucking ballz off, cooling deniers!

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    It's been warm here for all of January. We had -32 for a few days in December, but January has been in the 40s with a handful of days in the 50s. Chinook winds.

    8 tonight though.

  • playa manhattan||

    Blackuweather says it's going to be high 60's here this week, low 70's next week.

  • SweatingGin||

    Zero here now, low of -9.

    For our Canadian friends, that's really freaking cold.

  • Sevo||

    Well, now things are different in CA. Here, we've been warm under sunny skies with no rain, 'cause global warming. Very similar to the drought we had in the late '70s, but that was because the earth might be entering a new ices age.
    So I'm a bit uncertain as to whether I should stock up on ski-clothes or bikinis for Ms Sevo.

  • SweatingGin||

    seriously? You toss an under hander right over the center of the plate like that?

  • playa manhattan||

    I had some friends email pics from Mammoth and Kirkwood this week. It doesn't look good.

    If the season continues the way it has, there might be some condos for sale on the cheap at the end of the ski season.

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I have unlimited data but I have a five-year-old android. I was going to hang onto my phone until it actually bricked but just looked at my data usage and it's something like 80MB a month. I do Wi-Fi almost exclusively, I guess. On the other hand, if I had a better phone I might actually use it more and eat more data. It's literally a catch-22.

  • SweatingGin||

    I have unlimited data on an iPhone. Cold dead hands.

    Even if I don't use it all the time, sooner or later, I'll drop satellite and listen to Pandora all the way to work.

  • Hyperion||

    1 GB? 1 TB of data is not enough, bee-otch.

    Don't fuck with my dataflow, bee-otch, don't go there.

  • SweatingGin||

    I'm still waiting for Fiber To The Brain.

  • Hyperion||

    I'm still waiting for my commercial HD release of the Oculus Rift. Direct Brain input... not for a couple of years, anyway.

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    I'm trying to convince my city that heated streets would save money over constant plowing operations.

  • Hyperion||

    See, this is where they don't understand the genius of us libertarians. 100,000 orphans polishing monocles under the streets WILL melt the snow under a city of 1 million. Do the math, they don't get this, derp.

  • ||

    100,000 orphans polishing monocles, if harnessed correctly, could power a small town in India.

  • Hyperion||

    Wow, this thread could break 500 posts.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    470

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    471

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    472

  • Irish||

    Don't cheat, you son of a bitch.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Late night's been kinda quiet lately.

  • Sevo||

    Tom Perkins woulda done better with "Fascists!"
    "Tom Perkins plays the Holocaust card – and that’s always a bad idea"
    http://blog.sfgate.com/cwneviu.....relations/

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    Everyone's favourite Dragon/Shark Kevin O'Leary will be doing SOTU coverage on CNBC.

  • Sevo||

    Courts keep Park Service from closing a business. For a while:
    "Court gives Drakes Bay Oyster Co. a bit of a breather"
    http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/.....180269.php

  • BiMonSciFiCon||

    Round two!

  • ||

    Only 27 more comments to break 500. Lets see if I can be all of them.

  • BiMonSciFiCon||

    Kennedy's face there was priceless.

  • BiMonSciFiCon||

    "Punch him in the uterus?" Also priceless.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    I'm watching some bizarre awards show on the science channel. The Breakthrough Awards. Celebrities giving awards to scientists...

    Kinda messed up.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Zuckerman is on stage with the chick from Twilight...Anna Kendrick.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Okay Kevin Spacey is doing impressions...and he's good.

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    er...Zuckerberg

    derp

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    Now that was science we can use.

    Very informative, liked it except for the last two lines...

    drink responsibly and with company.

    Drink with reckless abandon and...

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    I thought the Lord counted as a person.

  • Bobarian||

    Kind of enjoyed the linked video below

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XztPtK7yAUk

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    Mental Floss videos make me break out in hives.

  • Francisco d Anconia||

    I just poured the perfect beer, a Salmon Fly Honey Rye, Madison River Brewing Co, into a frosted glass.

    Thank you Pants.

    *wipes tear from corner of eye*

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Archer Vice has been pretty good so far.

  • playa manhattan||

    Lorde without auto tune
    I hope this makes comment #500.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Nope! THIS IS COMMENT NUMBER 500!

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    PROVE IT

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    There are 501 comments according to the counter at the beginning of the comments section.

    And as you can see with Reasonable, your comment is 501 and mine, the second most recent one, is thus number 500.

  • Bam!||

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

    The trap was partially sprung in climate research when a number of the relevant scientists began to enjoy the advocacy business. The enjoyment was based on a considerable increase in funding and employment opportunity. The increase was not so much on the hard-science side of things but rather in the emerging fringe institutes and organisations devoted, at least in part, to selling the message of climatic doom. A new and rewarding research lifestyle emerged which involved the giving of advice to all types and levels of government, the broadcasting of unchallengeable opinion to the general public, and easy justification for attendance at international conferences--this last in some luxury by normal scientific experience, and at a frequency previously unheard of.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    You'll never be as tough as this guy: New Zealander fights off shark, stitches himself up, and goes to the bar for a beer before going to the hospital

    Junior doctor James Grant was spearfishing with friends near Colac Bay at the base of the South Island on Saturday when he was attacked.

    The 24-year-old was in about two metres of murky water when he felt a tug on his leg, which he initially thought was a friend playing a trick on him.

    "I looked behind to see who it was and got a bit of a shock," he told Radio New Zealand.

    He didn't see the shark and had no idea how big it was. He said he thought it might have been about 20 centimetres across the jaw.

    However, he wasn't scared. "[I thought] bugger, now I have to try and get this thing off my leg."

    He quickly made it onto rocks on the shore. It wasn't until he took off his wetsuit that he saw the bites, up to about five centimetres long. He said he was thankful for the seven millimetres of wetsuit neoprene

    He tried to get the attention of his three friends, who were spearfishing just around the bay, but they did not take him seriously.

    His friends carried on fishing while Dr Grant tacked the wounds together with a needle and thread from his first-aid kit for his pig-hunting dogs.

    The group then went to the Colac Bay Tavern, where he was given a bandage because he was dripping blood on the floor.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Every time you smoke a joint, a cute cuddly carnivore dies of warfarin poisoning.

    Rat poison used on illegal marijuana farms is sickening and killing the fisher, a rare forest carnivore that inhabits some of the most remote areas of California, finds a team of researchers led by veterinary scientists at the University of California, Davis.

    Researchers discovered commercial rodenticide in dead fishers in two widely separated locations - Humboldt County near Redwood National Park on the California coast and also in fishers more than hundreds of miles away in central California's Sierra Nevada mountains in and around Yosemite National Park.

    And there's even an FSP connection.

    Matthews said, "Fishers play a vital role in the forests of the Sierra Nevada Mountains and the Pacific Northwest...keep forest rodent populations in check and are one of the only predators with the tenacity to regularly prey on porcupines."

  • Archduke von Pantsfan||

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