Cops in California Visit Local High School to Tell Parents How You Get High Using an e-Cigarette

she could be enjoying anythingplanetc1/flickrPolice in Sebastopol, California are warning local educators that teenagers could be using e-cigarettes to get high. They held a meeting for parents at the local high school this week so that “parents, grandparents and other community members have a chance to find out about practices like smoking hash oil in electronic cigarettes,” the Press Democrat reported.

Though police say they mean to explain local teenage trends, there’s nothing new, or local, about it. Last year, local police in New York and the media there hyped the “threat” of using e-cigarettes and vapor pens to smoke marijuana without the smoke. It could lead to heroin, one cop said. Opponents of e-cigarettes have been pushing the idea that the safer alternative to cigarettes should be shunned since the product first came out, and tacked the boogeyman of drug use onto them years ago as part of that effort. But from cigarette papers to apples, knives, and light bulbs, a host of everyday household items could be used to get high by the resourceful. There’s no need to demonize any of them, e-cigarettes, or drug use to have an honest conversation, in fact it makes it impossible.

It is, though, the best way for drug warriors to stem the growing opposition to prohibitionist drug policy, and to get comments like this one, from the Press Democrat story: “you better believe some tweeker has come up with a way to smoke some methamphetamine liquid hybrid dope from one of these things.” An internet search finds that yes, naturally there is interest in smoking meth out of e-cigarettes, not by tweakers but by users interested in partaking away from home. The discussion of that possibility in one forum suggests it could be possible, and also includes plenty of advice to keep “use as discrete as possible” when away from home because of the propensity of the media to jump on stories where drug users can be portrayed negatively.  It’s a war on drugs, indeed

Related: Reason TV talks to neuroscientist Carl Hart on what an adult conversation on drug use would have to include:

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  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I THINK MY KIDS ARE SHOOTING UP MARIJUANA WHAT SHOULD I DO

  • From the Tundra||

    Search their room, right away.

    Free weed!

  • RBS||

    I have an 18 month old so naturally my wife is worried about potential drug use 15 years from now... Anyway, that was my response.

  • General Butt Naked||

    You should be worried now. The dope pushers don't care about age and the fiends get younger and younger.

  • From the Tundra||

    Let's let Curtis Mayfield tell it:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCDAfa-NI-M

  • OneOut||

    If Top Men would quite teaching young kids that pot is as bad as heroin maybe fewer of them might actually try heroin.

    Kids are taught that pot is horrible just like heroin. Kid tries some pot because they are going to listen to their friends more than adults. Kid finds out pot was cool and realizes authority lied to him.

    So why not try heroin. They lied about pot right ?

  • Father Jack||

    Feckin' swine. And people wonder why so many people would just as soon beat a cop to death on the street than piss on one if they were on fire. Asshats.

    Drink! Feck! Arse! Girls!

  • Dweebston||

    Sell them out to the police! Nothing fixes kids like relinquishing responsibility to the state, mandatory psychotherapy, community service, and a grabbag of assorted indignations.

  • Doctor Whom||

    Where did I leave that pamphlet? [/Jake Morgendorffer]

  • M. Samuels||

    I don't know, but every time I hear about a cop being killed, I smile inside.

  • Father Jack||

    Feckin' A, matey! Hell, I laugh like a mofo.

    Drink! Feck! Arse! Girls!

  • ||

    Have a quiet chat and show them how to use a bong properly.

  • RBS||

    They should probably go ahead and warn them of the dangers posed by a trash can and a 2L Coke bottle.

  • Jon Lester||

    I haven't done the gravity bong bathtub thing in 25 years, but I haven't forgotten how fun it was.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    Alternately a coke bottle, bread bag, and some duct tape.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I'M AFRAID THE NEIGHBOR KIDS ARE DOWNLOADING HEROIN ONTO E-CIGARETTES I'M AT MY WITS' END

  • PD Scott||

    You'd better make sure your Wi-Fi is password protected or they could hack into your systems and get you addicted, too.

  • RBS||

    In Tulpa's world you'd be charged with possession with intent to distribute.

  • sarcasmic||

    There’s no need to demonize any of them, e-cigarettes, or drug use to have an honest conversation, in fact it makes it impossible.

    That's the point. They don't want an honest conversation.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    That's the point. They don't want an honest conversation.

    THIS.

    An honest conversation means using facts, and so long as BUTT IT LOOKZ LIKE TEH SMOKING exists, facts mean nothing.

  • sarcasmic||

    The latest bit of propaganda I saw was that e-cigarettes are more addictive than tobacco because... chemicals!

  • PD Scott||

    "Local teens were heard to say 'Oh, really?' and were seen taking copious notes."

  • From the Tundra||

    Local teens? Fuck, *I'd* be taking copious notes!

  • sarcasmic||

    “parents, grandparents and other community members have a chance to find out about practices like smoking hash oil in electronic cigarettes,”

    You've got my attention! Hash oil? Oh yeah!

  • Ken Shultz||

    Oh we got trouble!
    Right here in River City!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI_Oe-jtgdI

  • Dweebston||

    I'm guessing vaporized hash oil ain't going to smell like roses, and getting hold of the stuff can't be any easier than smoking the leafy variety, so explain me why this is any more imminent a threat than spliffs of pot ever were?

  • Doctor Whom||

    It's got that new-fangled technologicalness, so it's even scarier than the normal scary stuff.

  • ||

    Actually I have a friend who would do this when he had a med card in Cali and has cooked up his own outside of Cali. He said it didn't smell like anything at all if you mixed it with flavored e-liquid. It was something you could buy at the dispensary and making the tincture himself was also apparently not that difficult.

    Not that I think "local teens" are bothering to do all that.

  • Dweebston||

    I stand corrected. This IS the most dangerous drug affecting kids since all of the rest of them.

  • ||

    I mean the most basic e-cigs are just an atomizer with liquid being dropped on to it. There are lots of things you could do with it.

  • Dweebston||

    With the wooly-headed prohibitions on using them it seems like most of the danger involved with e-cigs comes of huffing solvents.

  • ||

    Also I don't believe it was hash oil just a tincture made with regular pot but I don't know much about it.

  • Invisible Finger||

    Thanks for your information-free anecdote.

  • Zeb||

    The really high grade oil has almost none of the smelly stuff that is in pot. The active parts aren't what smells.

  • Dweebston||

    You're talking me into buying a vaporizer.

    Two hits and it's goodnight, world. Better than benadryl.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    A vaporizer is the shit. Nothing else compares.

  • C. Anacreon||

    A California friend who was in hospice with end-stage cancer had some of us over a few years ago. He had the medi card and what he said was the top of the line vaporizer. It was indeed all that you say! I will recommend against, though, getting stoned with someone who only has weeks to live. Your mind goes to some places you'd just as soon avoid.

  • Brett L||

    Chirrens doing solvent extractions with volatile non-polar solvents and heat? What could possibly go boom wrong?

  • Rich||

    Police in Sebastopol, California are warning local educators that teenagers could be using e-cigarettes to get high

    on *krokodil*!

  • wareagle||

    Sebastopol. Sounds like a place in one of the former Soviet Republics. Then I read California, which these days seems a harsher place to live.

  • Jon Lester||

    I'm pretty sure the port city in Ukraine remains very smoker-friendly.

  • C. Anacreon||

    Sebastopol is actually in Sonoma, in the middle of the wine country, just north of the wealthy ultraliberal 60's hippies of Marin County and south of the big marijuana growing areas of Humboldt and Mendocino Counties. I don't think MJ use is a real shocker to anyone living there.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I'M AFRAID LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL KIDS ARE BUTT CHUGGING SMARTIES MAGGOTS WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THEM

  • ||

    It could lead to heroin, one cop said.

    Getting a job as a cop could lead to heroin, too.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Recently, at my regular watering hole, a couple of people Democrats were discussing the health hazards (for the unenlightened proles of the world) of going outside to smoke when it's twenty degrees out (and the wind is blowing forty miles per hour). Smoking is bad, children, mmmkay?

    I said something about how e-cigs would fix that, and they both got all huffy and started blabbering about the evils of e-cigs, and how they should be banned. I stopped short of calling them idiots outright, but I asked why it should be any of their business, as long as the stinky second hand part of cigarette use has been eliminated. But Republicans are the ones who want to control everything you do.

  • Dweebston||

    If you needn't be subjected to my harmless water vapor, why should I suffer your idiotic ramblings?

    Ban politics in bars. Take it outside, asshole.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    ps-

    HEROIN IS EVERYWHERE!!!1!!111!1111!

  • Suellington||

    The kids are way beyond this. The cool ones have been anal vaping for months now.

  • ||

    anal vaping

    Don't you have to practice years of Hatha Yoga in order to be able to do that?

  • ||

    This story reminds me of:

    "Next on FOX News! It's the newest drug craze. And it's killing your kids! All over America, kids are getting high... on cat urine! Huffing cat urine apparently causes a euphoric state and is also referred to as... cheesing.

    So how can you tell if your child is cheesing? 1. Your child seems distant, preoccupied. 2. Your child's face smells like cat urine. 3. When you see tigers at the zoo, your child starts grinding his or her teeth. You might also notice by certain phrases your child says to school friends, such as 'Hey, let's go cheese.' or 'Do you feel like cheesing, guys?' or 'Dude, I'm cheesing my F-ing brains out right now.'"

    "Twenty percent of American students aged six to twelve say they have tried cheesing at least once. Kids also refer to it as 'the cheese game,' or 'vitamin cheese,' or 'Mary Jane piss in your face fun time.' Cheesing is spreading fast."

    Ah, the sages of SP.

  • Lady Bertrum||

    I watched the vid.

    So, meth is basically Adderall?

    Sad or ironic? or sadly ironic?

  • Lady Bertrum||

    Heisenberg told me the blue stuff was special. liar!

  • Brett L||

    Different salts. The Adderall is way smoother (and, you know, more consistent since its manufactured by pharmaceutical companies in clean rooms, although the facility under the laundry in BB was essentially the same and would yield a very consistent product).

  • Lady Bertrum||

    Something like 10% of the boys in my son's school are on a variety of ADHD meds- Adderall being the most common. While I'm glad their getting the controlled variety, should we be jailing those using the dirty stuff? Rhetorical question: of course not.

  • Brett L||

    I intend to have my son make straw purchases for me when he is old enough. I find the stuff very useful for doing a weekend's outdoor chores when I don't really feel up to it.

  • Invisible Finger||

    Note that first we shove kids into say-no-to-drugs DARE indoctrination, and then one hour later 10% of them are forced into the nurse's office for their daily dose of meth-lite.

  • Loki||

    They held a meeting for parents at the local high school this week so that “parents, grandparents and other community members have a chance to find out about practices like smoking hash oil in electronic cigarettes,” the Press Democrat reported.

    It's an e-cig, so there's no smoking involved. Geesh, they can't even get a basic fact like that right. Fuckin' "journalists."

    from cigarette papers to apples, knives, and light bulbs, a host of everyday household items could be used to get high by the resourceful.

    A former college roommate of mine knew a guy in high school who allegedely made a bong out of a Bible.

  • ||

    Are you sure these are e-cigs and not just single-hit pot pipes that look like cigarettes? Those were pretty common at one point.

    In either case, so what? Someone invented a new device to smoke weed in. Why is that any worse than the old devices?

  • GILMORE||

    These things are "E"-Drugging people. WITH AN E. Like "E"-commerce or "e"-mail: new, improved, totally uncontrollable and likely to destroy the lives of millions of children if parents DONT PANIC NOW. If your teenager seems sullen, withdrawn, and appears to have an unusually large amount of batteries, get him to a deprogramming center *STAT*. Which means Now.

  • Invisible Finger||

    Then let's call it a i-cig so we can stimulate the economy.

  • Edwin||

    the comments in all caps are hilarious. Thank you guys.

  • GILMORE||

    CHILDREN EVERYWHERE ARE TWISTING THEIR DRUG-KNOB TO HEAVY METAL, STUFFING CRYSTALLIZED-WRONGROCKS UP THEIR HAPPY HOLES AND JUMPING THE SANITY BUS TO CRACKTOPIA WITH AN ARMY OF LESBIAN DOPE-MUNCHING CRIME-ADDICTS

    This, and more, on tonight's special episode of Brass Eye

    Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4f4oy2M_Og

    Seriously, please watch this whole thing ASAP

  • GILMORE||

    Dear Frank and Oak:

    "Beardo-in-a-suit" is no more 'modern fashion' than 'beardo in skinny jeans and a ski cap. Because 'just add Beardo' does not make you the next Yves Saint Laurent.

    That is all.

  • JimMelloan||

    Of course marijuana vaporizers are pretty much the same idea, and they come in handy portable versions. http://marijuanavaporizer.com

  • VicRattlehead||

    How to make MJ Glycerine for your E-Cig
    Need
    1 Quart Ball Jar
    1 Cup of Dried MJ ground into a fine dust
    3 Cups of FOOD GRADE glycerine
    2 flOz. of Grain or other alcohol

    step 1
    Freeze MJ in Ball Jar

    Step 2
    Pour in 3 cups of glycerine

    Step 3
    Screw on cap and shake vigerously for 1 min

    Step 4
    Place jar on its top for 24 hours then flip it to base and wait 24 hours continue this process for 3 weeks

    Step 5
    Day 21 remove the top from the jar and strain out the waste plant matter

    Step 6
    Add 2 flOz. of grain Alcohol and shake until mixture is uniform without bubbles

    Step 7
    Repeat step 4 for 1 more week

    step 8
    Enjoy your new E-cig flavor
    WOOT!

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