House Republican Discipline Falling Apart: Hooray!

The Hill reports the encouraging news that House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) is losing his grip on his caucus. Some details:

Sixteen Republicans defected Wednesday in a vote on the rule governing consideration of a government-funding bill meant to prevent a government shutdown. The defections could have caused the rule to fail since most Democrats voted also voted against it....

Votes on rules are supposed to be party-line and serve as tests of a caucus’s unity. So it was disconcerting for leaders to see so many Republicans vote against the rule they had crafted....

Republicans were saved Wednesday by the fact that 17 Democrats missed the vote, possibly because of the poor weather in Washington that day. If those Democrats had all voted against the rule, it would have been defeated....

The dissenters were being pushed from the right, and from outside Congress itself:

Several conservatives switched their positions on the rule under pressure from interest groups that on Wednesday morning announced they intended to score votes on the rule.

Freedom Works, for example, was livid that GOP leaders refused to allow a floor vote on an amendment to defund the implementation of President Obama’s healthcare law.

The conservative group sent out an action alert to its members on Wednesday under the heading “Demand Boehner Defund Obamacare.“

Several of the seven lawmakers who supported passage of the bill but opposed the rule vote cited the Obamacare exclusion in explaining their votes.

Erick Erickson at RedState celebrated the 16, splitting them into a group of 10 he considers a reliable "Conservative Fight Club" and 6 fellow travelers on this issue:

The ten members of the Conservative Fight Club are:

  • Amash
  • Bridenstine
  • Broun
  • Gohmert
  • Huelskamp
  • Jones
  • Massie
  • Pearce
  • Salmon
  • Yoho

They are now the gold standard for conservatives in the House....

The other congressmen who stood with the Fight Club are:

  • Brooks
  • Fleming
  • Gingrey
  • Kingston
  • McClintock
  • Rohrabacher

Three of Erickson's "conservative fight club"--Amash, Massie, and Yoho--are interviewed at length in my March Reason magazine feature "Congress After Ron Paul."

Even Ron Paul told me in some interviews for my book Ron Paul's Revolution: The Man and the Movement He Inspired that he tended to blunt his ideological opposition by mostly being a good party man on procedural stuff. 

FreedomWorks explains the importance of resisting the continuing resolution from its perspective:

This CR is the best, and perhaps last, chance that Congress will have for making major reforms in spending for the foreseeable future. Yet the House plans to just pass the CR at current spending levels, and is even using a closed rule to limit debate and prevent any amendments from being offered that might reform spending in the bill. Even in the absence of a budget, Congress must attempt to return to some semblance of regular order, where spending bills are allowed to be debated and amended by members on the floor.

FreedomWorks also notes the 14 Republicans who voted against, not just the rule regarding the continuing resolution (to keep government spending going), but against the resolution itself: 

Amash, Bridenstine, Broun, DeSantis, DesJarlais, Duncan (TN), Gingrey, Gohmert, Kingston, Massie, McClintock, Posey, Salmon, Stockman

Note the presence of both Amash and Massie among the nays.

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  • Hugh Akston||

    The Hill reports the encouraging news that House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) is losing his grip on his caucus.

    Well maybe if he didn't use so much bronzer his caucus wouldn't so slippery in the first place.

  • ||

    And how do you know his caucus is slippery? Were you lending John Boehner's caucus a hand?

  • Jesus H. Christ||

    Boehner, Reid, Pelosi, McCain, Warren, Bernie Sanders etc. Is Congress always this bad? It sure seems like this is the worst shit sandwich in Congress since Gingrich was there. He really doesn't need any help.

  • Anonymous Coward||

    Congress is reflective of the states and districts they represent.

    Based on that, America is more fucked now than it has ever been.

  • Hugh Akston||

    Congress is also reflective of the party gatekeeper apparatuses that fund those who do as their told and weed out the ones who don't play nice with the other kiddies.

  • Ken Shultz||

    "Congress is reflective of the states and districts they represent.

    Based on that, America is more fucked now than it has ever been."

    Yeah, the Baby-boomers (AKA Worst Generation) is running the show now. Their parents suffered the Great Depression and fought and defeated the Nazis and the Imperial Japanese, and the vowed that their children would never know the deprivations they knew...

    They ended up raising the most spoiled, self-entitled generation in American history; part of me hopes all the Baby Boomers' social security checks bounce. It would look great on 'em.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-PA)||

    Too bad we don't have fine statesmen like Dan Rostenkowski, Carol Moseley-Braun, Bill Jefferson, and Robert Toricelli in Congress anymore.

  • ||

    Who?

  • Xenocles||

    Don't forget Traficant.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    Did he actually do anything different than every other Congress critter?

    The prosecution of Stevens shows that fed prosecutors can get a bullshit conviction on anyone they want to.

  • LTC(ret) John||

    And Murtha.

  • Jesus H. Christ||

    Yeah, Murtha was a real charmer.

  • Tman||

    So it was completely predictable disconcerting for feckless RINO's leaders to see so many Republicans vote against the rule they had crafted....

    Seriously?

    That's like saying you're surprised McCain and Graham pooped on the Rand Stand.

    They are a dying breed. They are done. The will lash out horribly to our detriment in their acquiescence.

    Let's get the marginalization started already.

  • Ken Shultz||

    The Tea Party sprang into existence outside the Republican Party specifically becasue Boehner and others were inside the Republican Party.

    That the Tea Party victory put Boehner in the Speaker's chair is an incredible irony--they should have sent him packing back in 2010.

    Until Boehner is out of the Speaker's chair, we'll know that the Republicans in the House aren't really serious about solving our problems.

  • RBS||

    Boehner should have had the decency to remove himself from any leadership position after the 06 midterms.

  • Rights-Minimalist Autocrat||

    That the Tea Party victory put Boehner in the Speaker's chair is an incredible irony--they should have sent him packing back in 2010.

    Until Boehner is out of the Speaker's chair, we'll know that the Republicans in the House aren't really serious about solving our problems.

    I've been saying this to my conservative father ever since Boehner's been speaker. In fact, I told my dad that I'd know the Republicans weren't serious if they chose Boehner as speaker. They haven't disappointed.

  • Jesus H. Christ||

    I had the same conversation with my father-in-law. He was hoping team red would come in, gut Obamacare, etc. Nope. Not as long as Cry-Baby Boehner is in charge.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    Fuck J0hn B0ehner

  • Ken Shultz||

    I want to see him cry like a girl again, but this time when he's giving his resignation speech.

  • Ken Shultz||

  • Paul.||

    I still haven't figured out what the first rule of Conservative Fight Club is...

  • Ken Shultz||

    Is it that although Barack Obama and John Boehner imagine themselves adversaries, they're actually just different projections of the same tortured personality?

  • Hugh Akston||

    Well played.

  • LTC(ret) John||

    Indeed..."Barack Durden." "Tyler Boehner"?

  • Alien Invader||

    Freedom Works, for example, was livid that GOP leaders refused to allow a floor vote on an amendment to defund the implementation of President Obama’s healthcare law.

    No shit sherlock. Somebody tell me, if you can, why the hell we're still saddled with that abortion known as Obamacare. If it's really that unpopular, and the Tea Party has the house, then why the hell haven't they killed it through the simple expedient of not funding it?

    Tell me the Republican party is worth a shit today. What continues to astound me is that most of the world seems to be looking at Obamacare like "ho hum, no big deal".

    It's gonna be the straw that breaks the camel's back and finishes bankrupting us.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-PA)||

    You won't be laughing when Boner lets the House vote on Feinstein's AWB bill, and a coalition of mushy Republicans joins the Dems in passing it.

  • ||

    I don't really see how this is going to lead to Boehner capitulating on AWB.

    Shit, if Boehner did that he would seal the end of his speakership, or worse.

  • Xenocles||

    I'm not laughing now.

    But on that note, the only thing these people understand is challenges to their power. If you live in one of these districts with an R who's mushy on gun control, let him know there'll be a primary challenge if they cave. Then be that primary challenge if you have to. You don't have to beat him, you can just bleed him - and they know that.

  • R C Dean||

    You won't be laughing when Boner lets the House vote on Feinstein's AWB bill, and a coalition of mushy Republicans joins the Dems in passing it.

    If the bill makes it to the House, that's the way to bet.

    The biggest barrier to Feinstein's bill right now is Red State Dem Senators. They got rolled for OCare, they can be rolled again.

    I really don't have the scratch for it right now, but I'll be checking to see of that combat shotgun I have my eye on would be effected by this, since I want to get the high-cap after-market tube for it.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-PA)||

    The prices for ARs are starting to slightly creep downward again because the same dolts who ran out to buy one because the MSM was talking gun control, now think because the media's not talking about it anymore that the threat has passed.

    Toomey made a stand-up move last week in blocking that awful judicial nominee (and standing with RP on the filibuster), and Rothfus sent me a letter pledging to oppose all gun control.... but I'm still keeping the pressure on them. Casey is just hopeless.

  • SIV||

    Sure are a lotta Christ-fags on that list. Now who again wants to purge them from the Republican party?

  • Jerryskids||

    Sure are a lotta Christ-fags on that list.

    Yep. And Georgia's got three of 'em!

    Much as I despise Boehner and the Establishment GOP, I can't say that an opposition party run by the likes of Broun, Kingston and Gingrey wouldn't be worse.

    At least - since Kingston and Broun have both announced they'll be running for Saxby Chambliss' Senate seat - we'll have the opportunity to see if one of them can top the 'evolution, embryology and Big Bang theory is a lie straight from the pit of hell' line.

  • SumpTump||

    Gotta love those bought and paid for politicians lol.
    www.EliteAnon.tk

  • LTC(ret) John||

    Better, anonybot, better.

  • phandaal||

    Like a veliciraptor when confronted by a kitchen door, the anonbot is learning.

  • ||

    If so, it's only learning how to repeat himself. He's said this exact line many times before. I'll take this to his "Naked children? Pics or it didn't happen!" line though.

  • wareagle||

    This CR is the best, and perhaps last, chance that Congress will have for making major reforms in spending for the foreseeable future.

    ah, poor Freedom Works. Still clinging to the antiquated notion that congress is actually interested in making reforms.

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