Pakistani Government Minister Offers $100,000 Bounty to Kill Filmmakers; State Dept. Responds by Calling Video 'offensive, disgusting, and reprehensible'

As readers of Reason 24/7 already know, the Pakistani government's Railway Minister, Ghulam Ahmad Bilour, offered a $100,000 bounty for the "noble cause" of murdering the makers of Innocence of Muslims. You may be relieved to learn that Islamabad's Foreign Office said that the offer was merely "representative of Bilour's personal views and had nothing to do with the official policy of the government of Pakistan."

How did the State Department respond to a minister from a government that receives more than $1 billion a year in U.S. foreign aid begging al-Qaeda to murder American residents for their free speech? Like this:

The State Department said, "The (US) President and Secretary of State have both said the video at the core of this is offensive, disgusting, and reprehensible - but that is no justification for violence, and it is important for responsible leaders to stand up and speak out against violence."

Considering that the State Department condemned the video before and after the U.S. consulate in Karachi came under deadly attacks, then paid $70,000 to broadcast another video-condemning commercial on Pakistani TV before the predictably deadly riots during last Friday's government-sanctioned national holiday of protest, perhaps it might be time to question whether the film-criticism strategy is paying off in its intended goal of staving off violence.

In the New York Times interview with Salman Rushdie that Ron Bailey blogged about earlier today, there is this relevant passage:

In his new book, Rushdie recounts being urged by the British authorities who were protecting him to "lower the temperature" by issuing a statement that could be taken for an apology. He does so. It fills him almost immediately with regret, and the attacks on him are unabated. He "had taken the weak position and was therefore treated as a weakling," he writes.

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  • Almanian's Evil Twin||

    Railway Minister

    This is what happens when you cross the Choo Choo lobby. Remember this, Californitards, before you think about opposing the Railway to Nowhere™.

  • ||

    Hey we have a Railroad Commission here in Texas and it's actually important (OG regulation).

  • Ted S.||

    Why do you regulate offensive guards in Texas? ;-)

  • Whiterun Guard||

    Hrmm...on the one hand Freedom of Speech, morality, non-aggression and all that.

    On the other hand: A HUNDRED THOUSAND CLAMS.

    Gonna need:

    1. Guns (lots)
    2. Maps (or directions would be good enough. Or even just an addy, I can get a Garmin or something)
    3. Rope (black)
    4. Bag for lootz.

    Am I missing anything?

  • Killazontherun||

    He didn't specify what he needs as a dead proof. What a fucking amateur!

    In this case throw in a portable vacuum seal. Refrigeration units always draw suspicion when you are traveling by plane.

  • OldMexican||

    Re: Killazontherun,

    He didn't specify what he needs as a dead proof.


    Oh, come on. Whatever happened to scalping? How more proof would you need? Or cut ears? Don't tell me you're suddenly squeamish about that!

  • ||

    Just make a beheading video, Al Qaeda-style. Aw crap, now I'm gonna hear from NSA.

  • Killazontherun||

    I keep telling you the gloves on that last job were for protecting my ID and nothing to do with not wanting to get my hands dirty. You're still giving me crap about it!

  • DarrenM||

    He didn't specify what he needs as a dead proof.

    You're assuming there's some intention of paying.

  • Drake||

    Is it taxable income?

  • albo||

    You got guns, you're going to get money. So you just need lawyers.

  • Tulpa Doom||

    A country that doesn't extradite to the US for you to flee to.

  • ||

    Am I missing anything?

    You forgot:

    5. ????
    6. PROFIT!

  • Loki||

    3. Rope (black)

    "Do ya know what we need, man? Some rope."

  • ||

    "Whatta we need rope for?[..]Whatever, take yer stupid rope. -.-"

  • Restoras||

    Appeasement never works. I guess no one in State knows anything about history, but this isn't really surprsing.

  • Tman||

    A few dead ambassadors are just "a bump in the road" Restoras.

    A few more appeasing press releases and everything will be fine.

  • Tim||

    We're so sorry Uncle Albert
    We're so sorry if we caused you any pain
    We're so sorry Uncle Albert
    But there's no one left at home
    And I believe I'm gonna rain

  • John||

    We really haven't done a bloody thing all day.

  • ||

    well, you did manage to have a cup of tea and a butter pie, so it wasn't a total write-off

  • WittyName||

    Butter pie?

  • Romulus Augustus||

    "The (US) President and Secretary of State have both said the video at the core of this is offensive, disgusting, and reprehensible.. "

    What, they keep recycling the same statement? This is exactly what Sec. State Clinton had to say after sitting through the vile Broadway play that trashes Mormon and Mormonism. Oh, wait....

  • ||

    It's good to know that our diplomatic arm is craven, stupid, and doesn't seem to understand the first thing about human nature. That's going to end well.

  • BakedPenguin||

    "Yes, all of you rioting were absolutely justified. Now please stop."

  • Pro Libertate||

    So, if someone here doesn't like a film, it's now legal to kill and destroy as a form of criticism?

  • ||

    I'm down with this if we can do it over Michael Bay, Roland Emmerich, and Uwe Boll films.

  • PapayaSF||

    I don't want to see Roger Ebert rioting. In fact I don't want to see Roger Ebert at all any more.

  • DarrenM||

    So, if someone here doesn't like a film, it's now legal to kill and destroy as a form of criticism?

    Book burning will soon be in fashion again. (Except the Koran, of course.)

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Yet somehow the makers of Transformers go unscathed.

  • ||

    No, FoE. Their reckoning is coming. Michael Bay will pay for his crimes.

    (rubs hands gleefully)

  • Pro Libertate||

    Well, murder is illegal in the U.S. How about $100,000 to make a film mocking the filmmaker's mother?

    The administration's emphasis on the content of the film is very disturbing. We either have a commitment to civil liberties, or we don't. I'm thinking "don't" from all of this hedging about the film being 100% protected speech here.

    Frankly, I suspect more videos of the sort will be forthcoming.

  • ||

    Frankly, I suspect more videos of the sort will be forthcoming.

    I'm just wondering when Daniel Tosh is going to have the filmmaker on Tosh.0 for a Web Redemption.

  • PapayaSF||

    Just make the Muslim world aware that they can buy the book Did Muhammad Exist? on Amazon. It's really quite good: a summary of the scholarly evidence about early Islam that doesn't fit the dogma.

    There's no definitive answer, but lots of the Koran and Muslim tradition is subject to doubt. There are early coins showing Muhammed with Christian symbols, or combinations of Christian and Islamic symbols. That big wave of conquest that came out of Arabia after Muhammed's death? In the first 70 years or so, there are no records by the conquerors or the conquered mentioning Muhammed or Islam or the Koran. Apparently Islam was invented ex post facto to justify the conquests and the suppression of the conquered.

    Perhaps a simple YouTube trailer promoting the book would do it.

  • Lost_In_Translation||

    you could say that about all the prophets (and most of the conquests). At this point its an excuse to go nuts, which is all that the jihadis want.

  • OldMexican||

    Pakistani Government Minister Offers $100,000 Bounty to Kill Filmmakers;


    I would like my reward in gold, if you please.

  • Drake||

    Sorry - It will be a U.S. Foreign aid check signed over to you.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    +100,000

  • LTC(ret) John||

    You sure that would clear?

  • The Hammer||

    You think they have foreign aid checks that small?

  • albo||

    it is important for responsible leaders to stand up and speak out against violence

    Even David Blaine couldn't hold his breath that long.

  • Fluffy||

    Surely our heroic drone program is going to remove this minister by the end of the week.

    There's no ambiguity here: he has publicly called for an act of terrorism against specific, named Americans, and is offering a cash bounty to whoever performs it.

    That means there's about eleventy billion times more evidence against this guy than there is against the random guests at Pakistani rural weddings who we routinely kill whenever it suits us.

    So why is this guy still breathing?

    Could it be...because our stated policies are full of shit? Or because members of the political class are immune from our WoT programs, even if they're Pakistani?

  • Pro Libertate||

    If I were president, I'd fly to India in response.

  • ||

    DING DING DING

    And with the latter, Fluffy scores.

  • Randian||

    Or because members of the political class are immune from our WoT programs, even if they're Pakistani?

    Look at who gets to declare foreigners as Enemies of the State and I think you have your answer.

  • Killazontherun||

    Consequences are for the non nuclear governments. Pakistan does what the fuck it wants:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1.....y_massacre

    Excerpts from Genocide in Bangladesh by Kalyan Chaudhury, pp 157–158[8]: “...Some army officer raided Rokeya Hall on 7 October 1971. Accompanied by five soldiers, Major Aslam had first visited the hostel on 3 October and asked the lady superintendent to supply some girls who could sing and dance at a function to be held in Tejgaon Cantonment. The superintendent told him that most of the girls had left the hostel after the disturbances and only 40 students were residing but as a superintendent of a girls' hostel she should not allow them to go to the cantonment for this purpose. Dissatisfied, Major Aslam went away. Soon after the superintendent informed a higher army officer in the cantonment, over the telephone, of the Major' s mission. However, on 7 October at about 8 p.m. Major Aslam and his men raided the hostel. The soldiers broke open the doors, dragged the girls out and stripped them before raping and torturing them in front of the helpless superintendent. The entire thing was done so openly without any provocation, that even the Karachi-based newspaper, Dawn, had to publish the story, violating censorship by the military authorities.

    cont.

  • Killazontherun||

    In seven days after liberation about 300 girls were recovered from different places around Dacca where they had been taken away and kept confined by the Pakistani army men. On 26 December altogether 55 emaciated and half-dead girls on the verge of mental derangement were recovered by the Red Cross with the help of the Mukti Bahini and the allied forces from various hideouts of the Pakistani army in Narayanganj, Dacca Cantonment and other small towns on the periphery of Dacca city."
  • robc||

    Consequences are for the non nuclear governments.

    What are they gonna do, bomb India?

    I dont see how that should affect our behavior in any way.

  • Randian||

    well, there is Afghanistan to worry about.

  • robc||

    Really, why? Taliban isnt in power (for now) so that job is done. And has been for years.

  • Randian||

    For one, a strike on Pakistan would have to come from there, so you're talking about maintaining a pretty close launching pad.

    Two, the reality is still that we aren't leaving any time soon.

  • Killazontherun||

    Hey, when Pakistan intelligence crashed a few planes into our buildings the Bush administration went to great pains to blame the piss ants in Afghanistan instead. Those bombs count for something even in the US.

  • Randian||

    WTF?

  • Killazontherun||

    The camps were created and funded by Pakistan intelligence to keep them at arms length. They were never an independent entity.

  • Randian||

    To what end?

  • Killazontherun||

    That's a difficult cipher when you consider the camps were originally created by the 'Westernized' Bhutto government, and the intent of the camps were anti-American from the start.

    It's all there well documented in the mainstream media if you look. I remember first reading about the camps and their Pakistan backing in the nineties when the Clinton administration gently let the Pakistanis know how we felt about them with a missile attack that landed in Pakistan. That was no accident. If you are curious, that incident is the one to go back and reread. WSJ did a pretty good series on the Pakistanis funding at the time.

  • John||

    Not sure if I agree. But here is something to think about. After 9-11, Bush mostly deported Pakistanis. The INS actions after 9-11 concentrated on the Pakistani community more than anything else. The media has reported this and generally chalked it up to the evil cowboy Bush thinking all Muslims are alike. But maybe the Bush Administration knew differently? Just a thought.

    Then of course there are all of those weird stories of Pakistani students in New York who told their teachers the towers were going to be attacked a few days before 9-11. Those stories were never explained and seemed credible.

    So there is all that.

  • Calidissident||

    Pakistan wasn't a nuclear power in 1971

  • Gray Ghost||

    Forget it, he's rolling.

  • robc||

    Im pretty sure that qualifies as an act of war on the part of the Pakistani government.

    If congress would pass a DoW, Im okay with carpetbombing the motherfuckers out of existence. Hopefully they would unconditionally surrender before the bombing begins.

  • Rich||

    Interior Minister Rehman Malik said Bilour's comments were an "expression of his own personal feelings and the government has nothing to do with it".

    It's Ministers all the way down.

  • Ayn Random Variation||

    This is so close to what Obama and Hillary are saying about the magic video that it's scary.

  • Tulpa Doom||

    No, it doesn't. The government isn't offering the bounty and we haven't asked for him to be handed over for prosecution, so there's no casus belli.

  • Sudden||

    , and is offering a cash bounty to whoever performs it

    Sean Payton is a Pakistani minister now? Damn, he must miss coaching a lot.

  • LTC(ret) John||

    "Could it be...because our stated policies are full of shit? Or because members of the political class are immune from our WoT programs, even if they're Pakistani?"

    Yes.

  • John||

    Yes fluffy, we should absolutely drone strike his ass and leave no doubt who did it. If you put up a bounty on American citizens, you can expect a cruise missile coming through your front door. The fact that we haven't done this is disgraceful.

  • DarrenM||

    The fact that we haven't done this is disgraceful.

    Get used to it.

  • OldMexican||

    The State Department said, "The (US) President and Secretary of State have both said the video at the core of this is offensive, disgusting, and reprehensible - but that is no justification for violence, and it is important for responsible leaders to stand up and speak out against violence."


    "We hate it! We find it to be full of caca-poopoo! We want to stomp on it, burn all media that contains it and release a fatwa of our own against anybody who's responsible! But, it is no justification for violence - c'mon, people, be reasonable!"

    He [Rushdie] "had taken the weak position and was therefore treated as a weakling," he writes.


    That was only because he IS a moral weakling, just like many of his fellow leftists.

  • sloopyinca||

    Muhammad was a pederast, a rapist a thief, a murderer and a false prophet. Someone should find his bones, dig him up and let every Israeli man defecate on the body before having it buried upside-down with a flagpole flying Old Glory buried in his asshole.

  • Lost_In_Translation||

    subtle...

  • PapayaSF||

    If he existed at all: see my post above.

  • Randian||

    RAH RAH TEAM JESUS

  • LTC(ret) John||

    Somebody does not believe Mohammed existed and that makes them a Xtianist Christfag?

    William of Occam called, he's offering you use of a razor?

  • PapayaSF||

    Indeed, Randian, you are jumping to a conclusion that isn't true. I'm agnostic.

  • Calidissident||

    It does make them gullible. There are in fact sources mentioning Muhammad just a few years after he died for example. To say there's nothing for 70 years is false

  • PapayaSF||

    There are mentions of Muhammed, but many are ambiguous and do not indicate that he or Islam inspired the initial conquests.

  • ||

    There is a pretty good case to be made that he didnt exist either.

  • Invisible Finger||

    The US State Department doesn't believe in the First Amendment, and Moslem spokesmen don't believe in the First Commandment.

  • Tim||

    The State Department said, "The (US) President and Secretary of State have both said: "You're a towel!"

  • Randian||

    This Administration is so fucking weak is makes me tremble in anger.

    "The (US) President and Secretary of State have both said the video at the core of this is offensive, disgusting, and reprehensible - but that is no justification for violence, and it is important for responsible leaders to stand up and speak out against violence."

    What a two-sided, wishy-washy, mealy-mouthed pack of gibberish. Fuck these people.

  • ||

    "I'm literally angry with rage!"

  • Lost_In_Translation||

    don't forget to vote for cthulu, because why choose the lesser two evils

  • Tulpa Doom||

    What do you expect them to say? They condemned the threat of violence.

  • R C Dean||

    What do you expect them to say? They condemned the threat of violence.

    "There is an absolute right of free speech in the United States.

    Any violence visited upon United States citizens or property will be repaid 100-fold.

    If you doubt me, recall that there is an election in a few weeks, and nothing would improve my prospects more than lighting up a bunch of murderous goons. American voters are funny that way."

  • ertdfg||

    I'd like them to condemn MURDER more than they condemn FREE SPEECH.

    Sorry if that was too much to ask.

    Hopefully we can end this offensive, disgusting, and reprehensible Legal Free Speech... then maybe we can condemn murder more harshly?

    Or should I pretend they condemned murder more than a youtube video?

    Can I have some of that laced kool-aid before I try to deny reality?

  • The Late P Brooks||

    State Dept. Responds by Calling Video 'offensive, disgusting, and reprehensible'

    What, no matching funds?

    I am disappoint.

  • robc||

    I wish our government had said this:

    $100k?

    If he IS killed, we will spend $100B killing every member of the Pakistani government.

  • Rich||

    AND we'll make a movie about it.

  • ||

    Well, he might have been killed anyway without the Railway Minister's involvement.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    We could do that a lot cheaper.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    We either have a commitment to civil liberties, or we don't.

    Rip van Winkle, is that you?

  • Pro Libertate||

    I eagerly await the long list of other works that the administration must now condemn.

  • Rich||

    ** hides VHS of Desperate Living under sofa cushion **

  • Sudden||

    2016?

  • Pro Libertate||

    Maybe that's what all of this hemming and hawing is about--they're upset that people aren't rioting, murdering, and looting in response to that film.

  • Rich||

    Interior Minister Rehman Malik said Bilour's comments were an "expression of his own personal feelings and the government has nothing to do with it".

    The irony -- it BURNS.

  • Christina||

    I've ben trying to come up with the most offensive video possible. So far I've decided it should be titled 2 Girls, 1 Koran. After all the poopy good times are had with the Koran, it should be set on fire and Muhammed should put the fire out by peeing on it.

  • Rich||

    *cough*SugarFree*cough*

  • ||

    needz moar bukkake

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Are you trying to tell us something about yourself, Ms. Hand?

  • ||

    no, my dear sir, merely helping this thread in its inevitable race to the bottom. Which you may take as a pun if that pleases you

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Well, so much for my boner.

  • ||

    My condolences on your sad loss

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Like the South, it will rise again.

  • ||

    I like the way you think. When HitUndRun has its "draw Mohammed" contest (but then didn't print it), I sent them my Photoshop of goatse with the South Park drawing of Mohammed on his balls. Moynihan was suitably appalled.

  • ||

    Why did you not pop that on cafepress and share the love? Summer's coming and I need some new t-shirts.

  • ||

    Somehow I don't think they'd allow pictures of gaping assholes on t-shirts. But enough about NutraSweet.

    ZING

  • Paul.||

    We do not condone gaping assholes on the internet. It's still no justification for violence, though.

  • Paul.||

    If Muhammed is depicted in a clown suit, I'll fund this venture...

  • Christina||

    Pennywise the Clown as Muhammed. I like it!

  • Paul.||

    Done. There's a check for $11.50 in the mail...

  • Tim||

    "If I could pray with my cock, I would be much more religious." – Tyrion Lannister [62]

  • sarcasmic||

    Why do you think all those messed up cults revolve around sex?

  • Lost_In_Translation||

    ...said the crow to the raven...

  • Mr. Soul||

    the serious answer is that in gnostic dualism, what the body does does not effect the spirit. Epicurianism Stoicism are two sides of the same coin.

  • Ayn Random Variation||

    I hope you're not on probation.

  • Christina||

    Nope, I've never even been arrested! But I'm sure they could dig some dirt up on me anyway. Like that time I drove on expired tags for over a year. I'm such an outlaw!

  • Ayn Random Variation||

    Drone deployed

  • Jumbie||

    Two GUYS, One Quran.

    They gayness adds an extra touch of insult. Of course, given the way these extremists hate women, maybe you're right after all.

    If you do go with two girls, they have to be menstruating girls. Menstruating women aren't supposed to touch Qurans.

  • Paul.||

    Islamists in Pakistan stormed embassies this morning in response to the American custom of homosexual marriage.

    The administration responded by saying, "A marriage is between one man and one woman..."

  • Rich||

    Now you've done it, Paul!

    You KNOW how those Islamists react to metamocking.

  • Ayn Random Variation||

    You win this thread.

  • MJGreen||

    I'd say it's more like, "We do find homosexual relationships gross and antithetical to American culture..."

  • Killazontherun||

    But, you are promised the buttholes of little boys in Paradise!

    Koran 76:19
    And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.

    From the classic period Muslim poet,Abu Nuwas:

    O the joy of sodomy!
    So now be sodomites, you Arabs.
    Turn not away from it--
    therein is wondrous pleasure.
    Take some coy lad with kiss-curls
    twisting on his temple
    and ride as he stands like some gazelle
    standing to her mate.
    A lad whom all can see girt with sword
    and belt not like your whore who has
    to go veiled.
    Make for smooth-faced boys and do your
    very best to mount them, for women are
    the mounts of the devils

  • Ayn Random Variation||

    "In his new book, Rushdie recounts being urged by the British authorities who were protecting him to "lower the temperature" by issuing a statement that could be taken for an apology. He does so. It fills him almost immediately with regret, and the attacks on him are unabated.."

    Is anyone in this Administration capable of feeling regret, or shame? I hate these people and their enablers/cheerleaders/apologists in the media.

  • Paul.||

    Roman Catholics stormed American embassies in Chile and Rome in response to permissive American abortion laws.

    The administration responded by saying, "All life is sacred, and we find the use of abortion as a form of birth control reprehensible and disgusting."

  • Rich||

    Good. You've lowered the temperature.

  • Randian||

    Jews stormed the American embassy in Israel as a result of permissive American pork laws.

    President Obama responded by saying, "Pigs sleep and root in shit. That's a filthy animal. I ain't eat nothin' that ain't got sense enough to disregard its own feces."

  • Tim||

    But you ate dog?

  • Randian||

    "A dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way."

  • ||

    The President replied, "I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy but they're definitely dirty. But a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way."

  • Randian||

    PWND

  • ||

    i wear that taunt with pride

  • Copernicus||

    That would have to be one charming mutherfuckin' pig. He'd have to be 10 times more charming than Arnold on Green Acres

  • Paul.||

    What I wish is that the President would start walking the earth, getting into adventures 'n shit. He'd be much more useful in that role.

  • Pro Libertate||

    President Dredd? With drone powers?

  • ||

    Obama is Jules? That does fit with the known facts: ""The truth is you're the weak. And I'm the tyranny of evil men."

  • Copernicus||

    My girlfriend's a food Nazi, which pretty much makes me a food Nazi, but I do love a tasty burger

  • Killazontherun||

    That's just four years of studying at the madrasah talking.

    Wait a second. When he was here in Charlotte for the convention it is impossible that someone didn't shove some pulled pork barbeque in his face. Are there pics of his reaction?

  • Killazontherun||

    But then again, he would have had to have visited South Side Chicago soul joints when he campaigned for the State Senate. No way he could have gotten away with not eating a plate of ribs on those trips.

    I don't doubt the dude is some form of Christian. It's the apostate status that I find curious. It's not something you just walk away from.

  • Ayn Random Variation||

    Racist

  • Killazontherun||

    Just on my white side. No, wait, the spic side is actually much, much worse.

  • Killazontherun||

    When my late grandmother on my dad's side came to visit twenty years ago, I took her to a restaurant, and we ran into one of my professors whom I had a good bond because she was a science fiction fanatic. The prof was from El Salvador. After we departed, my grandma informs me that my prof reminded her of an uppity mulatto servant girl who kept asking the family for an allowance to go out on town. For a good Christian girl with no reason to dance, booze it up and carouse, room and board should have sufficed.

  • Paul.||

    If I were the President, I would dispatch a message to the president of Pakistan, telling him to have the government minister retract the statement with an unqualified apology, or the Pakistani government is going to have a serious international incident on their hands.

  • ||

    How the fuck the media is spinning Obama as anything but disastrously incompetent, foreign policy-wise, I don't understand.

  • Lost_In_Translation||

    neither do they...they're just following orders

  • sloopyinca||

    Jews stormed American embassies in European cities in responsive to permissive American banking regulations.

    The administration responded by saying, "All money is sacred, and we find the misuse of it reprehensible and disgusting."

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Historically, wouldn't it be the other way around?

    I mean, Christians and Muslims are the ones with the silly laws preventing them from any occupation that deals in "usury".

    Because, it's just so much more noble to be a shit-farmer than to handle that dirty gold-money.

  • sloopyinca||

    I don't know, man. I was just trying to make a joke about Jews being money-grubbers and stuff because that's the caricature. The line about the admin pandering to an interest group was all real, however.

  • sloopyinca||

    Mormons repainted and cleaned the land around American embassies around the world today in response to the mocking of their religion on Broadway.

    The admnistration responded by saying, "Mormons? They're all gonna vote for Romney anyway. We have no comment."

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    The Amish held a series of barn-raisings to rebuild American embassies which had been damaged by rioters.

    This is in protest of the prosecution of the Amish haircutting guy.

    "If you disrespect us again," said the Central Amish Committee, "we will shun you so bad you won't know what hit you."

  • widget||

    I've been to Pakistan a few times. There is no social injunction against discussing religion and politics at the dinner table, in the cab, at business meetings, anywhere. It's blog-time 24-7 there. I even took to watching cricket matches in my hotel room at night so I could steer conversations away from the buzz-kill.

  • Ayn Random Variation||

    It's like that in the NYC area.
    Unless you're not a leftist.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Is anyone in this Administration capable of feeling regret, or shame?

    I'll bet the whole pile on "NO".

  • Ayn Random Variation||

    Then I fold.

  • Paul.||

    Dear Barack Obama,

    At some point in my life, I or someone close me may make a statement which could offend the people of a foreign nation who may make threats against me and attempt to have me killed. I have one question: Do I have the unqualified protection of my government?

  • sarcasmic||

    "Of" or "from"?

  • widget||

    No, but if you like to hunt for sport, you can still buy a gun.

  • Anonymous Coward||

    The State Department said, "The (US) President and Secretary of State have both said the video at the core of this is offensive, disgusting, and reprehensible - but that is no justification for violence, and it is important for responsible leaders to stand up and speak out against violence."

    My response:

    Either this fuckwit Bilour is out of a job in the next 24 hours or the Foreign Aid spigot runs dry.

    Tick-tock.

  • Paul.||

    Fuck that... drones on standby. We have a state-actor who made direct, recorded, on-the-record threats against specific, named American citizens who is being harbored by an identified foreign nation. We invaded countries for less.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Oh please, Sen. Paul's bill to cut funding to Pakistan until they freed the doctor who helped us find bin Laden was defeated in the senate 90-10.

    Think about it, 90 fuckin' percent would rather piss away money by allowing Pakistan to continue it's protection racket.

  • Paul.||

    And I had never even heard this story. So it also tells you how the media prioritizes such a story.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • Lost_In_Translation||

    you don't just stop giving money to the blackmailer...it has consequences.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • R C Dean||

    you don't just stop giving money to the blackmailer...it has consequences.

    One of them being, you still have your money, and he doesn't.

  • Drake||

    You are assuming conviction and courage on the part of our President and Secretary of State.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    it is important for responsible leaders to stand up and speak out against violence.

    "Now hand me that kill list."

  • ||

    Again I'm reminded of a scene from Michael Palin's Himalaya where he's on a train through the Khyber. The "passengers" were all clearly journos and tourism officials, begging for people to come ride the train in the very safe, very welcoming environs of tribal western Pakistan. Yeah, right. Good luck with that, especially now that the railway minister is calling for murder.

  • Cyrano||

    Oh, but this whole threat is really about how bad US foreign policy is as a whole, not the film. It's our fault. Reason magazine told me last week.

  • Lost_In_Translation||

    who knows how much of this is false flagging, but you don't just sit there and agree with the false flaggers about their flag?

  • Randian||

    No one said anything like that, fuckface.

    Seriously, why do people get their jollies lying through their teeth?

  • MWG||

    There has to be at least one of the idiot comments on these Muslim threads.

    So let me see if I understand your reasoning...

    Because many of these protestors are protesting a video about their prophet, there's nothing wrong with US foreign policy?

    Or maybe... Because many of these protestors are protesting a video about their prophet, they're never angry about our foreign policy?

    I'm having a hard time understanding your comment... perhaps you're just trolling.

  • cheaurelio||

    The filmmaker shouldn't be killed for the subject matter, but for the horrendous quality of the film. If someone were to kill him and collect the $100K then could use that money to remake the film properly.

  • Bobarian||

    Maybe get Mel Gibson to play the part of Mohammed?

    He's a pretty good actor and would bring an air of believability.

  • cheaurelio||

    Or he could fake his own assassination, collect the money, and use it to finance a sequel.

  • widget||

    I don't have HBO and I am rarely interested in anything Bill Maher has to say. But he did make a film called Relgulous that pwned all religions including Islam. Has he been chirping about this?

  • LTC(ret) John||

    Ha, he'd rather not end up all Theo Van Gogh-y.

  • Loki||

    Hey, maybe Obama could add the film makers to his death list, drone process them, then collect the $100,000 dollars and appease the murderous barbarians all in one fell swoop. Nothing else seems to be working.

  • widget||

    I don't think it's possible to overstate the goodwill of teh Google in insisting that the video remains online. Google owns Youtube. The ghays and libruls at Google are doing what the USG will not. More than "Do no harm".

  • Ballz||

    Railway Minister, Ghulam Ahmad Bilour ? Hey he is former neighbor of mine, he stole my camel! He must die!
    -Mabal Zarhari

  • Ballz||

    give back camel, bastard!

  • Rob Ives||

    Is this a case where a Republican administration would be just as bad or worse than a Democrat administration? Whatever a libertarian may believe about the Federal government, defending the rights of the people of the United States is a core function. The Obama administration's reaction is pathetic.

  • Ayn Random Variation||

    Kind of OT, but not really:
    To the statist Obama spooge slurpers who say that the video maker was not arrested, but just questioned on a voluntary basis or whatever the talking point is, here is something from a form I have to fill out for a license to work in a certain industry:

    "DEFINITIONS: For purposes of this question:
    A. “Arrest” includes any detaining, holding, or taking into custody by any police or other law enforcement authorities to answer for the alleged performance of any “offense.”"

  • ertdfg||

    “We found the video that’s at the core of this series of events offensive, disgusting, reprehensible,” Clinton said. “But that does not provide justification for violence"

    Ok, so violence = bad.

    Freee speech she disagrees with =
    offensive, disgusting AND reprehensible (as well as bad).

    So free speech she disagrees with gets MUCH more condemnation than violence, is her prepared official well thought out statement.

    ...

    Any questions which is considered worse by this administration?

    I mean sure killing people is bad, but not as bad as offensive but legal free speech in America,... right guys?

    Or is there some other reason we reserve most of our condemnation for speech and not murder?

  • IVillageIdiot||

    Hmmm.... why hasn't this guy been charged with conspiracy to commit murder under US law? The person who has been contracted for death, IS a naturalized citizen. If the perp is not in the US, it's not a crime to contract the death of an American?

    I don't think so...

    THIS guy... is an OFFICIAL of that Government! He made a big point of saying it was HIS OWN MONEY... not Pak money,… but what difference does that make with regard to US Law?

    Wait... If I take up a collection outside of Wal-mart, to have a person in Pakistan murdered, I would be just fine? It wasn't MY MONEY... It wasn't Federal money, it wasn't State money... so... its just fine, because it was charity!

    At a minimum, why not take this to ICC?

    I'd rather we place a Warrant for his arrest and then talk to the Pakis about extradition.

    Why doesn’t the AG of California file a charge?

    WE ARE BEING “DEFENDED” BY WEENIES!

  • Copernicus||

    Interior Minister Rehman Malik said Bilour's comments were an "expression of his own personal feelings and the government has nothing to do with it".

    Kind of like free speech. What, wait, huh, who?

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