"Yes, the price tag has tripled and its completion date is 13 years later. But it's still a gamble worth taking."

That's the comical subhed on an editorial by my former colleagues at the L.A. Times, pledging in the face of massive contrary evidence they know perfectly well to keep on supporting bankrupt California's bullet train boondoggle. Give them an A for consistency, since their original endorsement, back in 2008, contained this classic formulation:

The projections by the measure's opponents, led by the libertarian Reason Foundation in Los Angeles, are much less sanguine and more persuasive [than those by supporters]. If voters approve Proposition 1a, it seems close to a lead-pipe cinch that the California High-Speed Rail Authority will ask for many billions more in the coming decades, and the Legislature will have to scrape up many millions of dollars in operating subsidies.

And yet, we still think voters should give in to the measure's gleaming promise, because it's in their long-term interest.

This is interesting not because people care overmuch about unsigned newspaper editorials, but because it's a window into a still-prevalent mindset. Accurate numbers and good science matter, except when they don't. Official lies are untenably outrageous, unless they're merely the product of understandable over-exuberance. And logic, well, here's your logic:

Bullet trains have been successful in places with even bigger financial problems than California (notably Spain), and we'd like to think that the home of such visionaries as Steve Jobs, Howard Hughes, D.W. Griffith and Earl Warren is at least as forward-thinking on transportation as, say, Japan or Turkey. The state is in a fiscal jam right now, but bonds are repaid over the course of decades, and the train is a major public work whose value to future generations could be compared to that of the California Water Project. [...]

It's a gamble, and not one to be taken lightly. But gasoline isn't going to get any cheaper in the future and the freeways aren't going to get less clogged. We think California can find a way to get the train built. We think it can. We think it can....

I submit that this mindset is part of why we are broke at every level of government that the L.A. Times still covers. When the costs of Project Moonage Daydream just don't matter, when we react to elected officials who brazenly lie about misspending our money by giving them more money, then we get precisely what we deserve–intellectual bankruptcy, followed by the fiscal variety. What'll the next headline be, "Yes, the price tag has grown tenfold, and it won't be finished until the year 2100, but we think it's still worth it, because of Mark Zuckerberg and Spike Jonze"?

Reason has been on the Cali high speed BS beat since like forever, including this fab Reason.tv episode of Supertrain II.

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  • Suki||

    But it's still a gamble worth taking.
    I think you man gambol there.

  • Suki||

    Looks like everybody is still at Epi's troll festival in the weekend thread.

    Good Standard Time reason!

  • Name Nomad||

    If "standard" time is only 1/3 of the year, it's not so standard. Is it?

  • Suki||

    I didn't name it, but yes, calling it what it is would be better.

  • Biden = city-Statist like SUKI||

  • Both SUKI city-Statist dick||

    long time

  • ||

    Closeted gay guy has shown up.

  • Is that you, John Wayne?||

    Well, pilgrim, only after you eat the peanuts out of my shit!

  • ||

    Yeah, but I am sure you would want me to. I hear there is a big scat scene among in the closet gay men. Something about calling everyone gay all day and secretly being so that makes them want to eat each other's shit

  • Gunnery Sergeant Hartman||

    I bet you're the kind of guy that would fuck a person in the ass and not even have the goddamn common courtesy to give him a reach-around. I'll be watching you.

  • sevo||

    John,
    PLEASE do not feed the vermin.

  • Political Officer SEVO is here||

    ...to help you think and act correctly.

    Da, Comrade!

  • sevo's mission in life||

    is to dictate to others whom they may and may not converse with.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Hey, sevo... did Obama grant you magical dictation powers? I tried Googling it, but all I got was clown-porn links.

  • One ping only, please.||

  • barfman||

    And WI's job is to dictate to others that agriculture and technology are bad mmmkay?

  • barfman||

    *barf*

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Personally, I like my refrigerator. It keeps my beer and my other, less-important foods fresh.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Be careful with that acronym. A while back when you were saying WI=vermin shit I thought you meant Wisconsin.

  • Not You Know Who||

    Officer, am I free to gamble on NCAA games?

  • Live Free or Diet||

    If the one is Daylight Saving Time, doesn't that make this Daylight Wasting Time?

  • Joe M||

    Daylight Spending Time

  • Suki||

    Daylight Stimulus Time

  • MJ||

    It's "standard" because 12 pm is actually at high noon (give or take some minutes depending on actual location in the time zone).

  • ||

    Interesting to see if they show up on this thread. If not, that will be pretty strong evidence for Sugar Free's theory that it is an occupy Wall Street thing.

    It is odd. Reason has had comments for over a decade. That whole time we have never had lefty trolls show up. This is a common tactic. Leftist web sites will get their members to go out and vandalize right leaning ones. But they have never done it to reason before now.

  • Suki||

    Only "over a decade"? When did they start H&R?

  • ||

    Hit and Run started around 2000 I think. I can't remember when I first started reading it. But I think it was shortly after 9-11. And it was still pretty new then.

  • Suki||

    Always wondered. I just got here a couple of years ago. Seems like less.

  • PantsFan||

    It was Sometime in 2002.

  • Suki||

    Then that is almost a decade. Close enough either way.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    But... is the word "me" in the word "team"?

  • ||

    I already said it: you can't spell TEAM without going Ass To Mouth.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Tony can relate.

  • ||

    "team" is german, not germanic.

  • Joe M||

    Check the archives. I don't know if there was anything before the current iteration, but we're basically celebrating the nine year anniversary of H&R this week! Woohoo!

  • Suki||

    I knew if I asked enough, someone would do my homework for me ;)

  • sevo||

    "That whole time we have never had lefty trolls show up"
    Uh, Shriek? And Danny boy?

  • ||

    They were not trolls. Shreik was annoying. But he never just posted text walls and put up the same crap on every thread like this group.

    You can't get into the Wilkinson thread anymore. They have effectively conducted a DNS of it. This is a different level. They are out to destroy the site. Either Reason will just say the hell with it and shut it down or they will put up some kind of registration and moderation system.

  • sevo||

    "They were not trolls. Shreik was annoying. But he never just posted text walls and put up the same crap on every thread like this group."
    OK, using that definition, I'll agree.

  • Live Free or Diet||

    Or just wait for them to get bored.

    My first thought is that there might be a user-side filtering method.

  • ||

    MAybe you are right live free. First, the people on here will get bored responding to them. And then they will get board and move on. It is not like they are even interesting. I feel sorry for rather to be honest. She seems to genuinely have problems.

  • rather||

     
    Dear fill in the blank, I am fed up of writing the same personal reply and will post this generic form for my convenience; for yours, I have highlighted the portion that applies to you

    http://reason.com/blog/2011/11/04/does-my-alleged-disaffinity-with-ows-hel#comment_2617636
    <i>Again, I'm not defending rather--rather's behavior is indefensible.</i>
    Tell me what that behavior is?  Your astute enough to recognize I'm spoofed but yet you are personally able to know which remarks to attribute to me?

    Either you're a lousy psychic , or you are actually what you criticize, and more so, because you claim to know right from wrong-I'm altogether not sure your fellow libertarians have the maturity to know the difference

  • ||

    If you get banned, whoever is spoofing you should get banned too.

    Spoofing other people's accounts is among the more trollish things a person can do--and IF Episarch or others are spoofing your account, then they're on the short list too for biggest trolls of all.

    ...but you're not claiming innocence here, are you rather? Because that would be ridiculous. Surely, you don't imagine people are just picking on you because they disagree with you, do you?

  • ||

    No....rather made herself a target of convenience based on past behavior, and she might even admit that.

    But the shit that's been going on for awhile now is NOT her MO.

    Someone is yanking our chains for their own sick amusement, or someone who wants to see H&R go down is using her as their running dog.

  • sevo||

    "Or just wait for them to get bored."
    So long as someone 'challenges' the argument, boredom ain't gonna happen; text wall will, once again claiming bullshit that's been debunked many times.
    DO NOT FEED VERMIN. This is not hard to grasp.

  • Mike M.||

    Or just wait for them to get bored.

    Unfortunately, psychopaths never get bored of this kind of stuff. You're going to be waiting for a very long time.

  • Suki||

    Can we wait for them to get board?

  • ||

    They have effectively conducted a DNS of it

    DDoS?

  • Amakudari||

    Nah, I can totally see how this is like the Domain Name System.

  • random troll||

    Again with this "leftist" persecution complex.

    Only leftists disrupt other people's websites. Right-wing people are all good and nice and they would never do anything bad to anyone. All evil acts in the world are ONLY perpetrated SOLELY by leftists, as part of their political agenda.

    Every time a mugger takes someone's wallet on the streets of Hong Kong, it's part of the nefarious leftist agenda.

    There are NEVER, EVER right-wing trolls of leftist websites. Never. Only leftist trolls on right-wing websites.

    You're a fucking moron John.

  • Suki||

    That is part of the key to understanding what leftists vs. rightists are.

    Leftists steal and rightists don't.

  • random troll||

    Yep, there has never been a single conservative thief, ever. FACT PWN'D!

  • Suki||

    If they called themselves conservatives they lied.

  • sevo||

    Suki,
    If you feed vermin, you get vermin shit.

  • Political Officer SEVO is here||

    ...to help you think correctly. Da, Comrade.

  • Suki||

    sevo,

    Point taken.

    If they would just block iWhatever operating systems this flood would become a drip.

  • sevo||

    "If they would just block iWhatever operating systems this flood would become a drip."
    Suki, expecting 'they' to solve problems probably isn't the best move.
    And now John is engaged in a 'discussion' with the vermin shit. And next John will *gripe* about the vermin shit.

  • sevo's mission in life||

    is to dictate to others whom they may and may not converse with.

  • ||

    You are right sevo. I should stop. Closeted Gay Guy is a less disciplined troll than the rest of them. Rather just posts as White Indian and stays in character. Closeted Gay Guy steps out of character making him more tempting to make fun of. But you are right, we should pity them not engage them.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Hey, Suki... I think it's taken on yet another persona.

    Man, those KC Chiefs sucked today...

  • mad libertarian guy||

    I think you mean that my Dolphins looked like a real NFL team today.

  • Pity, John?||

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Hey, Suki... did you realize you and John, make up the entirety of the right-wing?

    I am surprise. Figured there would be at least a dozen more...

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Chiefs had a good season last year... guess they just couldn't do it two years in a row.

  • RoboCain||

    Also, right-leaning websites tend to believe more in free speech. Leftist sites often delete non-troll, civil comments just because they disagree with them.

  • freeforall||

    I've tried to post libertarian comments at americanthinker.com before but they haven't been published. It was just a question or two about conservative positions, nothing inflammatory.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Has anyone here said "only liberals do stupid shit like this", RT?

  • sevo||

    Mr. FIFY, do you love vermin shit? You're sure acting like you do.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    I didn't think it was You Know Who, sevo... just another twit.

  • Random Troll||

    And to answer your question, yes, Suki and John have both stated that ONLY leftists would ever do something like this, period.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    I was right about the "twit" part.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    I'd bet money that it's an Occupy thing going on. The timing is too coincidental.

    Somewhere there's a room of economic know-nothing leftists laughing their asses off, thinking they're making a difference.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Good theory... and there's no shortage of leftist twats with iPads and whatnot...

  • Suki||

    While using up mom & dad's money, or whatever public assistance they get that is just "not enough".

  • Jebus||

    But the JOBZ

  • Why Work?||

    "We Don't Want Full Employment, We Want Full Lives!"
    www.whywork.org

    To hell with Libertarian/Liberal/NeoCon/Socialist city-Statist JOBZ.

  • KPres||

    Yeah, to hell with it!

    "Our vision is of a world where everyone spends their days doing what they love, while all their needs are met, with ease, abundance and joy. Stress, strain, struggle and guilt are unknown and there is no concept of "work." All activity is experienced as play."

    lol!

  • sevo||

    KPres,
    Do you love vermin shit?
    You just fed the vermin, so you must.

  • vermin shit = cityStatist lies||

    No wonder you're so obsessed, Political Officer SEVO.

    Da, Comrade, must keep working for the city-STATE.

  • KPres||

    Sorry im done. No more.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    'Twas a good post, tho, KP.

  • 99% of humans lived that way||

    Snicker all you want, city-Statist submissive.

    “Cave man” and ‘Neanderthal’ are still invoked to remind us where we would be without religion, government, and toil. This ideological view of our past has been radically overturned in recent decades, through the work of academics like Richard Lee and Marshall Sahlins. A nearly complete reversal in anthropological orthodoxy has come about, with important implications. Now we can see that life before domestication/agriculture was in fact largely one of leisure, intimacy with nature, sensual wisdom, sexual equality, and health. This was our human nature, for a couple of million years, prior to enslavement by priests, kings, and bosses.
    ~John Zerzan, Future Primitive
    www.primitivism.com/future-primitive.htm

  • barfman||

    *barf*

  • KPres||

    So if we redistribute all the wealth of the top 1% and everybody get the extra $2K a year that amounts to, is that enough to make thier vision a reality?

  • Mr. FIFY||

    That's Tony's theory, KPres.

  • The Bearded Hobbit||

    It looks like the massive troll-fest will hit 2k comments soon. Sad.

    Q: What is the project that requires 100% of New Mexicans to subsidize 90% of the commuting costs of 4% of the state's residents?

    A: Bill's FailRunner!

    ... Hobbit

  • ||

    But Europe has trains Hobbit. How can we not have trains?

  • Suki||

    Trucks. Pickup trucks!

  • Random Liberal||

    TRAAAACKZ!!!ONE1won!exclamation point3-2

  • Suki||

    +1

  • Elder Scrolls Enthusiast AuH20||

    Eh... needs a better punchline. So fucking true, though. Goddamn Richardson, what an ahole.

  • V-22 Osprey||

    "Yes, the price tag has tripled and its completion date is 13 years later. But it's still a gamble worth taking."

    Somebody call my name?

  • ||

    You have just killed a few hundred marines. Still worth the gamble.

  • Suki||

    gambol

  • Live Free or Diet||

    Hey, I offered the poser his chance to gambol. He didn't even pretend to want it.

  • SOMALIA! you're not there yet?||

    REGULATION VACATION CELEBRATION!
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QDv4sYwjO0

    Lest we be accused of misrepresenting their views, actual Libertarians have been kicking around this take on Somalia with a straight face for some time now. No shit:
    mises.org/story/2066

    A more nuanced completely insane view is that Somalia has been awesome-ized by Anarchism, not Libertarianism.
    reason.com/blog/show/117519.html

  • barfman||

    *barf*

  • John "few hundred": Reality 30||

    John, you had best square your ass away and start shitting me Tiffany cufflinks.

  • sevo||

    "Bullet trains have been successful in places with even bigger financial problems than California (notably Spain)"

    Define "successful".

  • Paul||

    The editorial never once made the connection that the possible/probable major cause of the "bigger financial problems" started with things like the trains that are high speed and run on time.

  • Suki||

    Italy did not have any high-speed trains when Mussolini broke the strike with his socialists. On time is irrelevant.

  • Rhywun||

    The difference with Spain and the like is at least they managed to build a network of trains that go where people want to go while burning through all those piles of money. We can't even get that right.

  • ||

    You mean people in San Fransisco don't want to visit garden spots like Fresno?

  • Rhywun||

    That's assuming it will ever reach SF. Currently, it's connecting two towns in the Central Valley I can't be bothered to look up.

  • Suki||

    If it went straight between SF and LA, it would hasten the civil war.

  • ||

    Of course, being the capital of agricultural California, Fresno is, literally, a "garden spot." (Or a city in the middle of one.) But it is a hot-as-hell garden spot, I must admit.

  • Rhywun||

    Oh and - WTF is this thing with 1900 comments? I'm afraid to even click.

  • Jebus||

    Don't bother

  • Rhywun||

    I think I won't - I have better things to do. Like root against the LA Galaxy.

  • ||

    What are the LA Sparks? Chopped Liver?

  • Rhywun||

    I don't know what that is but the Galaxy are playing now and I would so love to see their meticulously-plotted playoff dreams crushed.

  • sevo||

    It's largely vermin shit and those who continue to respond to vermin shit. And then gripe about vermin shit.

  • Zampolit SEVO being the worst||

  • Vermin Shit||

    You remembered us!

  • Suki||

    Truly it is the biggest wasted of electrons on the internet, ever.

  • ||

    And they have moved on to this thread. Same guy running around gamboling and calling people gay and praying the homeless guy in the tent next to him rapes him.

    I think there are enough of them to do this to every thread. I don't know what you do about it. Ignore them, yes. But they can still fill every post with walls of text and make it impossible for anyone to talk to each other.

  • John called people gay first!||

    Same guy running around gamboling and calling people gay

    John|11.6.11 @ 8:52PM|#
    Closeted gay guy has shown up.

    John, you have indicted yourself, as you were the first to mention gay.

    I think you've got an obsession.

    And zero honesty. Really. It's sad; really sad.

  • ||

    Dude. Everyone knows the guy who runs around calling people gay as an insult is the gay guy. If you are going to troll on this site, understand you are and forever will be "Closeted Gay Guy". It is obvious when you are trolling versus rather. And it is obvious you are an in the closet gay guy. It is who you are. You earned it.

  • John = Gay. Real Gay. Obsessed||

    John says: Everyone knows the guy who runs around calling people gay as an insult is the gay guy.

    John|11.6.11 @ 8:52PM|#
    Closeted gay guy has shown up.

    Oh dear, John, seems as if you outed yourself.

  • ||

    I am not insulting you, you just are. You only think it is an insult because you are in the closet and have a lot of issues. That is why you are "Closeted Gay Guy".

  • You are an obsession. ||

    You're my obsession.

    Who do you want me to be, to make you sleep with me?

  • Gojira||

    Sorry to "feed vermin", but I have to give a shout out for that reference, I do love that song.

  • And to be fair...||

    calling people gay is hella funny because it's so childish.

  • John sics his Personal Jesus..||

    ...on your sinner ass.

  • sevo||

    John|11.6.11 @ 9:05PM|#
    "And they have moved on to this thread."

    Yeah, well John, look here:
    John|11.6.11 @ 8:52PM|#
    "Closeted gay guy has shown up."
    Sorry, once you feed the vermin, you really can't gripe about vermin shit.
    You fed the vermin; you must *love* vermin shit.

  • ||

    I know. I mentioned closeted gay guy's moniker and that drew his attention. My fault. But he would have been on here jerking off dreaming everyone on here was gay no matter what I said. But regardless, point taken.

  • u mad bro?||

    gaymbol

  • LOL||

  • KPres||

    All of the sudden, "officer, am I free to gaymbol?" just took on a whole new meaning.

  • ||

    It does. I think closeted gay guy actually finished jerking off after that one. He seems less manic. Now he is just in the self loathing stage.

  • Not all over the mouse, John!||

    quick, clean it up before mom finds out, John!

  • Out-competing the competitors||

    They're sorta whiny right now, as much as any leftist ever has been.

  • barfman||

    *barf*

  • Tony||

    I'm missing the part where you explain why pinny penching the country into irrelevance is a good thing.

  • sevo||

    Shithead, why do you love killing people?

  • Are Sevo + John fudgepackers?||

    John|11.6.11 @ 8:59PM|#
    ...I hear there is a big scat scene among in the closet gay men...

    sevo|11.6.11 @ 9:02PM|#
    Shithead...

    Comrade Commissar SEVO! You must not be distracted from rooting out Enemies of the city-State!

  • barfman||

    *barf*

    Tell me WI, is homosexuality a product of agriCULTure?

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Careful, barfman... that's one of the trolls. Probably those idiots from Anonymous, or maybe DU.

  • ||

    You might be a sock puppet Tony. But it is good to see you back. So much better than the ordinary leftist you are.

  • Peen Punching?||

  • Mr. FIFY||

    So, we should just spend like there's no tomorrow? Just spend on whatever the fuck makes people *feel* like they're doing something positive?

    Sure, whatever, Tony. I think I'll start running up credit-card debt, because obviously that's the wave of the future!

  • Mr. FIFY||

    And what does that have to do with NOT blowing holes in budgets for railway boondoggles?

    I'll bet you thought The Big Dig's cost overruns were no big deal, either.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    Can you point out even one penny being pinched?

    Just one.

  • ||

    Good luck with that. Their version of pinching pennies involves pinching them from the taxpayer's pockets and putting them into the general fund.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    +1 x 2

  • ||

    I'm just trying to figure out why anyone's pinching garments meant to distinguish two teams from one another in informal practice sessions.

  • The Lake Highlands Crank||

    +1

  • Paul||

    Because we have greece * to show us what spending our way into irrelevance looks like.

    *and california.

  • Paul||

    Because we have greece * to show us what spending our way into irrelevance looks like.

    *and california.

  • Spoonman.||

    I'm not even going to read it, but I'd never thought I'd be happy to see a Tony post.

  • Suki||

    +0.5

  • ||

    I liked the Moonage Daydream reference, Tim, but I would have linked this story:

    CAPE CANAVERAL, FL—NASA officials announced today the successful launch of the new shuttle Moonage Daydream, marking the beginning of a long-anticipated two-week conceptual mission inspired by British rock star David Bowie.
  • Mr. FIFY||

    That crazy Onion! How DO they manage to make fake news sound so real??

  • ||

    I am going to keep posting over there. The sick fuck in me wants to see it hit over 2k.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Wow, that Captain America movie really did a number on you, Banjos...

  • Metazoan||

    Or maybe it was the opportunity cost of the captain america movie...

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Could be, Metazoan. Bad movies get greenlighted all the time; there has to be something in it for the backers.

    Meh. The fanboys will help them recoup the cost, in any event.

  • ||

    We think California can find a way to get the train built. We think it can. We think it can....

    The Little Boondoggle That Could.

  • Suki||

    +1

  • ||

    It's a train - as fast a bullet! What could be better?

  • db||

    These boondoggles are gambles, certainly. They are gambles with other people's money in which the gamblers never are exposed to the consequences of losing. And as the post points out, when I oters keep giving the gamblers more money, it's hard to so how this will end short of financial collapse.

  • ||

    Come on DB, we can win this time. I have a system. They won't stop until everyone is broke.

  • db||

    Banjos, same here. But I'm still eschewing threaded comments.

  • ||

    Brooks was right this whole time. Fuck threaded comments!!!

  • ||

    He was right banjos. If we had the old unthreaded system, you would just ignore Closeted Gay Guy and respond to posts by cutting and pasting. It worked really well. I don't know why they switched.

  • John = Gay. Real Gay. Obsessed||

    John says: Everyone knows the guy who runs around calling people gay as an insult is the gay guy.

    First mention of "gay"....

    John|11.6.11 @ 8:52PM|#
    Closeted gay guy has shown up.

    Oh dear, John, seems as if you outed yourself.

    Now put your personal HayZeus back in your trousers.

  • barfman||

    *barf*

  • Suki||

    Some notion of "progress" I think.

  • Gojira||

    Holy hell, I check out the site for the first time since Friday, and there's a 1900+ thread, and this one has already hit over 80.

    What the hell is going on? Was there a memo I missed?

  • Rhywun||

    Yeah, same here. At least it's pretty easy to let my eyes glaze over the many posts that make absolutely no sense.

  • Nipplemancer||

    Jim, there are no words for the clusterfuck that happened. At first it was quirky and amusing. The "Me" in "team" debate blew my mind. And then there was a wall of copy pasta that pretty much set up the course of the next thousand or so comments. say And nothing else happened, but an evil sort of nothing happened. So evil and so full of and nothing. I weep for the commentariat. And my balls kind of hurt.

  • Random Troll||

    I'm still upset over all trolling being the result of liberals, who are all good and clean and pure and never do such things.

  • JMW||

    And nothing else happened, but an evil sort of nothing happened.

    A giant black hole of "And nothing else happened" more like it.

  • prolefeed||

    I found the clusterfuck amusing. Not amusing in the sense of actually reading the mindless 2K or so comments, but kind of meta-amusing that anyone would feed so many fucking trolls so much fucking Purina Troll Chow TM.

  • Gambol! No Threads!||

    Run free, baby, run!

  • sevo||

    Folks, this is not hard to grasp:
    There is no reason to engage vermin shit to 'prove' you are smarter than vermin shit; vermin shit's 'arguments' have been debunked by everyone who has tried. If you do, you are not smarter; you just proved otherwise.
    If you engage vermin shit, you will get unreadable threads. If you do *not* respond to vermin shit, vermin shit will finally get tired of shouting down an empty pipe.
    As long as *one* poster responds, it will extend vermin shit's presence, since the hint of food keeps it coming back.

  • Vermin Shit||

    You remembered us!

  • Debunked, I telz ya! Debunked!||

    LOL...the desperation is getting clownish.

    We'll take you in our circus, sevo. You'd be a real hit.

  • barfman||

    *barf*

    People who refer to themselves as "we"

    a. Royalty

    b. Newspaper editors

    c. Mentally challenged individuals

  • Apatheist||

    Lots of overlap there.

  • ||

    Gorira

    A group of leftist trolls (Rather and the Closet Gay Guy who keeps calling every one gay and maybe a few others) showed up and and started posting text walls and various crap. They are just trying to shut the site down.

  • Gojira||

    Explains why my shit kept freezing up trying to open that other thread. Huh.

    Are you sure they're leftists and not just random weirdos? I never knew rectal to have an expressed political preference one way or the other particularly (unless hating Epi counts as a political inclination).

  • ||

    I think they are leftist. But who knows. They are definitely random weirdos. Closeted Gay Guy falls out of character and becomes just an ordinary leftist. Rather, I think you are right is just a random weirdo more than anything else.

  • Rosebudding.||

    In you're heart, you know it's true.

  • Gojira||

    I see what you mean. This would get real old real quick.

  • ||

    Yeah, they will start posting big text walls of cut and paste white indian eventually. And then the whole thread is screwed.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    More than likely leftists, John, but there's a chance they're/it's Team Red.

    But they/it sound more leftist, unless they're putting on a hell of an act.

  • ||

    But why would Team Red be doing it? As a false flag? On a website that only a few thousand read and maybe a few hundred comment? That would be odd. And I would think if they were Team Red trolls they would be trolling about social issues like drugs and abortion rather than property. When I think Team Red Troll I thin Juanita not this.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Good point. Right-wing trolls would, logically, troll about morality-based issues.

  • Comrade Commissar...||

    ...we must root out the Enemies of the city-State!

    Hooligans, all!

    Da, tovarisch Vassili.

  • barfman||

    *barf*

  • Mr. FIFY||

    And we know - from the sheer bulk of cut/pasted material - there is no moral component to any of the troll shit in the other threads.

  • Leftist Troll||

    Ignore John, he's just having a hard time coming to grips with his budding homosexuality. See further up-thread.

  • Rosebudding.||

  • ||

    Fortunately, not everybody is falling for it.

    The California High-Speed Rail Authority has created a set of models and scenarios to answer the objections to its earlier models and scenarios. These will be parsed in much more detail than I can do here, but it is best to note the assumptions. First, its model assumes that the rail passenger fare will always be cheaper than airfare or driving. A ticket from San Francisco to Anaheim will be $72 in 2005 dollars. This is projected out to 2030.

    Second, the ridership will be immense — anywhere from 28.6 million to 37.1 million. This admittedly may appear realistic compared with the 90 million once promised. It is, however, not far from the 39 million projected in 2009. The agency can't go much below this. It needs high ridership or the model for turning a profit falls apart.

    But these kinds of projects always overestimate their ridership. Actual ridership of the BART line to San Francisco's airport, for example, was in 2009 only 25% of the 2003 prediction. If California high-speed rail captured the same percentage of riders as Amtrak's Acela does today in the Northeast corridor, an area with a long tradition of rail travel and a higher population than California, it would have about 5 million riders, not 28 million to 37 million. Uh-oh.

  • sevo||

    "Actual ridership of the BART line to San Francisco's airport, for example, was in 2009 only 25% of the 2003 prediction."

    He's being kind. The ridership was far below that until BART offered cheapo rates to airport workers.
    It's not surprising; who wants to wrestle their luggage on and off a mass transit vehicle?

  • Suki||

    The people of DC every time I bother to use their government drone commuting system.

  • Suki||

    *government drone and street bum system.

  • Rhywun||

    "You mean people in San Fransisco don't want to visit garden spots like Fresno?"

    I can only imagine the reason they're not targeting some place useful like the NE corridor is that the graft and spendiness endemic to this region would raise the price so high that even its boosters would blush.

  • ||

    The real estate costs alone would make it impossible. Also, you would have to run the trains through the cities and towns. What do you think the liability insurance is for insuring against a 200 mph train derailing in the middle of a city or suburb?

  • Rhywun||

    HSR in places like Spain and Germany is largely on new track that bypasses most towns except the few cities where it stops.

  • sevo||

    Which means you get to where you don't want to go *really* fast.
    Oh, good.

  • Rhywun||

    Well, that *is* the point of "express" service. But yes, America has largely encouraged a decentralized approach different from Europe.

  • sevo||

    I'm not sure about 'encouraged'; explain?

  • Rhywun||

    Major example is the interstate highway system which went much further than similar schemes in other countries by demolishing large parts of "inner cities" rather than just connecting one city to another.

  • sevo||

    I agree that the cross-town freeways had that effect, but I'm pretty sure that process was far after the moves to the suburbs; that began pretty much immediately after WWII.
    What I see is simply that people had the opportunity to 'get out of town' in the US; not available in Europe.

  • Rhywun||

    Sure we had lots more space to spread out but it was no excuse for the damage that was done, even when it was egged on by 'the majority'.

  • sevo||

    What 'damage'?

  • Rhywun||

    Take a look at any American downtown in Google maps sometime. All those expressways and cloverleafs were eminent domained just like the horrible "urban renewal" schemes that everyone rightly ridicules - and usually by the same people (Moses et al.).

  • ||

    If you think it costs a lot of money to lay a mile of track in Bakersfield, just wait 'til they get to Palo Alto

  • ||

    Or Brentwood. I am sure they will have it built some century or another.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I will brook no malignment of comment nesting by the Don't Thread on Me crowd. You have used threaded commenting in the past and you will do it in the future because it is the future. The glorious future.

    As for the previous post, if Matt Welch wants to use a fly paper strategy for containing divisive elements which we all know exists in every corner of the internet, then it would be unpatriotic of us to publicly dissent. To do so means the terrorists win.

    (And, hey, there's an article up there. What do you know?) We can't act like Vulcans and govern on logic alone. On occasion we must search our feelings and base public policy on what we find. We just need to employ some good old fashioned American know-how and get some Chinamen to lay the track and we'll probably get it done in half the time anyway. (Which we'll have to do in any case, because I have it on good authority that matter-to-energy-to-matter teleportation is a mere six years away.)

  • Lyle Taggart||

    Dock that Chink a days' pay for nappin' on the job.

  • ||

    Best. Opening. Line. Ever.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Thanks. I just had to go dig it up.

    That movie could *NOT* be filmed today, sad to say. Most of the script would look like a redacted paper from the desk of Eric Holder.

  • Why is John SO gay obsessed?||

    He's written more gay posts than there have been Jarheads killed in the V-22 Osprey.

    I think he's hinting something, even if he's being coy.

    And it's making me so hot.

  • Gaymbol! Come on, gaymbol!||

    Sir... does this mean that Ann-Margret's not coming?

  • Dan||

    I swore this headline was sarcasm. I think the LA Times editorial board is just trolling Californians.

  • Ann-Margaret||

    I'm going to be in Branson. Swing by and help me give Andy Williams CPR!

  • Lt. Lockhart||

    Joker... I want you to get straight up to Phu Bai. Captain January will need all his people.

  • Gen. Jack D. Ripper||

    It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids, without the knowledge of the individual, certainly without any choice. That's the way a hard-core Commie works.

  • ||

    It was that bad, Fify, it was that bad.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    I was thinking it would be.

    Was it as bad as the first Hulk movie, or as bad as... this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcpmM-eTESI

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Bear in mind, Banjos, I made it through the non-MST3K versions of both Monster A-Go-Go AND Manos: The Hands of Fate, so "bad" movies is a relative term...

  • Anonymous||

    We warned you all, we were going to ruin right-wing websites.

    But you did not listen.

    So... we have done it. And now, we sit back in our parents' basements, sipping their hot cocoa, and we laugh at you filthy capitalist pigs.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    That WOULD be a plausible theory...

  • Suki||

    Told you it was MNG.

  • ||

    Hey Baltimore, kiss this!

  • Mr. FIFY||

  • barfman||

    *baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarf*

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Dunno, barfman... that looked like one tasty fuckin' hamburger.

  • barfman||

    Epic Mealtime is so lame

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Lame? I *love* that shit.

    To each their own, yo.

  • ||

    I wish it was as bad as that, then it would have fallen under MST3000 level amusement. Instead it was just boring.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    No cheese content, then? Well, shit.

  • ||

    You sick bastard sloop, you know many of us use Reasonable.

  • ||

    Just so you know I'm not sexist.

  • ||

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Yikes. I need to bleach my eyes now.

  • ||

  • Mr. FIFY||

    You bastard!

  • barfman||

    *baaaaaarf*

  • JMW||

    That qualifies as cruel and unusual punishment, Sloopy.

  • db||

    sloopy, while I agree with the sentiment, i must protest the imagery.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Someone's been feedin' that gal some serious sammiches, yo.

  • ||

    Gravy sammiches at that.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Bread would just get in the way of the gravy.

  • ||

    That's why God invented the Double Down by KFC.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    I had one of those... wasn't horrible, but I haven't enjoyed KFC for some time now. Something just doesn't taste the way it used to from that outfit.

  • ||

    They changed their oil. They went to no trans-fats in 2007 or 2008...just about the time their food started tasting like shit.*

    Except their mashed potatoes and gravy. Those are still like manna from heaven.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    THAT'S what did it.

    And Popeyes couldn't make it in my area.

    I have no good fried chicken in a box.

  • ||

    Where do you live, Canada?* No Bojangles? No Church's? No mom&pop; chicken joint?

    You give me the metro area, and I'll have a place found for you within 15 minutes.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Springfield, MO area.

    Church's was around when I was a kid, but Popeye's/Bojangles flopped in this market.

    Oh, there's little mom'n'pop joints, and some of them are okay, but if I want real fried chicken I hafta make it myself.

  • ||

    Doesn't The Big Easy have fried chicken?

    At least as a special once in a while, or I thought they did last time I went through there.

  • JMW||

    Even Canada has Popeye's. My city has one and it's not big enough to be a metro.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    We HAD Popeye's, for about two years, but the entire operation folded.

    The KFCs are still around, but they suck.

  • Rebecca||

    I think it's still worth talking.

  • ||

    There is some sick form of ironing in how so many sports enthusiasts are disgustingly fat.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    My ex made ironing look sexy.

    Sorry, it was there, I had to say it. Mwahaha.

  • ||

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Whoa Nellie!

    But it would take all three of them to make ONE of the other female fans... yep, that's about the right ratio.

  • ||

    My posts are like garlic to these vampire trolls. It's working! It's working!

  • ||

    I will brook no malignment of comment nesting by the Don't Thread on Me crowd. You have used threaded commenting in the past and you will do it in the future because it is the future. The glorious future.

    I have seen the light of unthreaded comments. My Gadsden flag has nice, neat rows of text proclaiming, "Don't thread on me!" As Banjos said, "P Brooks was right all along."

    You've been vindicated, Brooksie.

  • ||

    There is some sick form of ironing in how so many sports enthusiasts are disgustingly fat.

    It's genetic. The analogue to this the large and aesthetically challenged (and usually quite stately) moms who enter their daughters (and sons nowadays) in those awful kiddie pageants.

    Living vicariously through others is the original contact sport in the US.

  • ||

    Wait a minute, doc. Boy pageants? I'm calling bullshit on that one. There's no. fucking. way.

  • ||

    Well, it should make police work easier in future serial killer cases.

  • ||

    Goddammit! Baltimore is just head-hunting out there and haven't been called on it once.

    And Roethlisberger throws a dart for a TD!!!

    Haha fuckheads!!!!

  • Devil's Advocate||

    :(

  • ||

    The Return of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars is up there among my favorite albums of all time. And not just because it makes for a great mushroom trip either.

  • PantsFan||

    Even the fat one on the right looks skinny in comparison
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZJII.....00x347.jpg

  • ||

    Wait a minute, doc. Boy pageants? I'm calling bullshit on that one. There's no. fucking. way.

    Behold, sloopy, the power of stupid and creepy!

    The Girl Scouts are also letting boys in. I kid you not. Apparently, transgenderism is decided by children in their toddler to preschool years.

  • ||

    I saw the GSA thing the other day. It's just an organization trying to recapture relevance in a world that is leaving them behind.

    The other thing is possibly the dumbest thing I've seen since somebody said the NHL could succeed in Arizona.

  • PantsFan||

    GO JETS GO!

  • ||

    There's Coyotes billboards all over town saying that despite what people think, this is indeed a hockey town.

    Not sure that they're very convincing. This should be a soccer town, but the demographics for MLS suck, and the Mexican league can't expand here.

  • ||

    and the Mexican league can't expand here.

    Why the fuck not? UEFA has allowed it with Welsh teams in the FA, so I know FIFA would let it go.

    My sister lives in PHX, and her oldest daughter plays soccer. That shit is serious business there.

    And what's gonna happen with Goldschmidt? The D-backs need to lock him down for a long time. I watched him all last year in A-ball. Motherfucker is gonna be a 30/100 monster for quite a while.

  • ||

    "UEFA has allowed it with Welsh teams in the FA, so I know FIFA would let it go."

    Apparently they wouldn't as the MFL has inquired about a team in LA and has been turned down (by CONCACAF I believe) every time.

    "And what's gonna happen with Goldschmidt?"

    I think he'll be a good but not great player, because I just think he won't hit more than .270 overall (.300 in his best years, .240 in his worst). He'll hit homers, draw walks and be acceptable at first and that's more than they've gotten from first base pretty much ever. He's like a right handed Jim Thome, but being a left handed hitter was a tremendous asset for Thome that Goldschmidt doesn't have.

  • ||

    But LA is a protected market with 2 CONCACAF teams already there. PHX isn't, so I bet they'd get a different answer.

  • ||

    FIFA has other concerns, mainly that every country has the same number of votes. So it is in the interests of the smaller countries' football associations to keep the English, Spanish, Italian, etc. leagues out of their country.

    FIFA generally wants to protect every country running their own little football fiefdom because that's the policy that's going to get them the most votes come election time. This is the same reason why the Caribbean ran the US and Mexico's region for so long: they had a block of votes that the bigger countries in the reason couldn't do anything about.

  • Ted S.||

    FIFA has other concerns, mainly greasing their own palms.

    Wait a second; that's the same concern that UEFA has.

  • ||

    USSF wouldn't allow it. The FMF is very, very powerful, but the USSF has an unusual amount of pull in North American matters, due to its fucking huge reserves of cash.

    Arizona could do it provided they used a 100% roofed stadium. Too bad MLS is probably going to stand pat at 20 teams once it gets there. On the other hand, Chivas USA is like the poor sister in LA and is ripe for a move. If someone could buy the Goats from Vergara, PHX could have a team no problem.

  • ||

    Voros also makes a good point. Vote-wise, neither the US nor Mexico matters one bit.

  • JMW||

    There's Coyotes billboards all over town saying that despite what people think, this is indeed a hockey town.

    Time to fire Bettman and put someone who actually gets hockey in charge.

    The experiment failed, Gary. Time to pack up and move on.

  • Ted S.||

    Now that Brodeur is getting close to retirement age, they can get rid of the Trapezoid Designed to Punish Brodeur's Puck-Handling.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    You've been vindicated, Brooksie.

    Pee Broox is wrong. Wrongheaded. I will thread until the day I die. You can have my nested comment when you pry it out of my cold, dead browser.

  • PantsFan||

    Mosaic?

  • Paul||

    Nice.

  • ||

    THANK FUCK Smith dropped that ball.

  • ||

    You can have my nested comment when you pry it out of my cold, dead browser.

    Still using Netscape 1.0 I see. Almost as reliable a technology as this train boondoggle.

    You probably still use Lycos too.

  • ||

    DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!

  • db||

    FUCK!

  • ||

    I saw the GSA thing the other day. It's just an organization trying to recapture relevance in a world that is leaving them behind.

    True; it's unfortunate though. It's hard for Scouting to compete with the other things that life has to offer tweens. I guess it's perceived as passé and antiquated. Which is a shame. I have found the most polite kids are the ones that went through scouting.

    I also want my Thin Mints and Do-See-Does to be made from real girl scouts. Do you really want some kid selling "Transgendered Cookies"?

    I guess I'm having an under 40 "Get off my lawn" moment.

  • ||

    There's a Tagalog fudge joke in there somewhere, but I'm not gonna be the one to make it.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Wow, that's a seriously narrow fetish there, sloopy.

  • ||

    Don't you judge me!

  • Mr. FIFY||

    I'm just sayin', how many people could be into Tagalog fudgeplay?

  • ||

    Well, I know of at least 6.

  • ||

    Oh, I mean, eww gross. Why would anybody even think to ask that question.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    I swear, if there's a fetish enjoyed by more than three people, there's a website chock full o' porn about it.

    Dyslexic Eskimo/aborigine Elvis impersonators with cleft palates? Click here! One-eyed pre-op female-to-male trannies who'll pop out the glass ball and give you a wink job for $3.50? Does Craigslist cover that?

    Anyway, it's fun to imagine.

  • ||

    You forgot the links to the sites, asshole.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    I made 'em up.

    Do I hafta use The Google to vindicate myself now? I'm kinda a'scared to.

  • Chef's Dad||

    I ain't gonna give no Loch Ness Monsser no t'ree-fiddy for no wink job!

  • ||

    For the love of God, no.

    I'll do it later tonight.

  • ||

    So you don't spend all your time here, huh?

  • Who IS Eric Cartman's father??||

    Is it Chef? Poet Laureate slooypinca? Tony? A Tagalog fudge fetishist other than Poet Laureate sloopyinca? Mr. Mackey? Tony Robbins? The 2005 Cleveland Browns? Mr. Hat? Tony Perkins? Troy McClure?

  • Homer||

    Mmmm... Tagalog fudge.

  • Gojira||

    Even better...Tagalog is the language spoken by the majority of people in the Phillipines. So you can add that context to any sex jokes.

  • ||

    "I also want my Thin Mints and Do-See-Does to be made from real girl scouts."

    Soylent GirlScouts??

  • ||

    "I also want my Thin Mints and Do-See-Does to be made from real girl scouts."

    Soylent GirlScouts??

  • ||

    "I also want my Thin Mints and Do-See-Does to be made from real girl scouts."

    Maybe we can outsource the Girl Scouts overseas.

  • db||

    Unthreaded comments are where it's at, Fist. When are you going to get on board for the big win?

  • ||

    Maybe we can outsource the Girl Scouts overseas.

    If I wanted inferior China crap, I would be on board with this trend for High SPEED Rail and Solar Boondoggles. I'll have my Girl Scout cookies mercury and GHB free and full of USA goodness, thanks.

    Besides, with that one child policy, China needs all the kids it can keep to maintain an even population replenishment.

  • ||

    Why would you want them GHB-free?

    Sebastian Janikowski vehemently disagrees.

  • Canman||

    In the previous 2K pileup, I've suggested Reason should have a dustbin to sweep the dustbunnies into. I mentioned that I'm not an expert on how the suirrels operate behind the scenes, and that this would be a way ghettoize rather than delete these obviously abusive comments.

    I think this is not so much a technical matter involving filters, as getting a temp janitor with a big dustmop. These comments could be transfered to the dustbin, where they would be visable for all to see. Hell, readers could go there and argue with the troll(s). This measure should obviously only be used in extreme situations like we have now.

  • rather||

    Canman,

    Dear fill in the blank, I am fed up of writing the same personal reply and will post this generic form for my convenience; for yours, I have highleted the portion that applies to you

    http://reason.com/blog/2011/11/04/does-my-alleged-disaffinity-with-ows-hel#comment_2617636
    <i>Again, I'm not defending rather--rather's behavior is indefensible.</i>
    Tell me what that behavior is?  Your astute enough to recognize I'm spoofed but yet you are personally able to know which remarks to attribute to me?

    Either you're a lousy psychic , or you are actually what you critize, and more so, because you claim to know right from wrong-I'm altogether not sure your fellow libertarians have the maturity to know the difference

  • barfman||

    *barf*

  • db||

    WHOA WHAT THE FUCK!!!! 249 comments!!!!!?????!?!?!?!?

  • db||

    um, wups. I thought the double-kilo thread got chopped. Wrong tab. My bad.

  • ||

    OK, here's a good question:

    Dale Arden or Princess Aura?

  • ||

    Even Canada has Popeye's. My city has one and it's not big enough to be a metro.

    Yes, but does the US have a Tim Horton's? EH?

  • JMW||

  • ||

    Yeah, at least those of us with an In N Out Burger near them do.

  • Beavis||

    Heh heh. He said "burger".

  • JMW||

    That'd be tasty if it didn't have processed cheese oozing out of it.

  • ||

    That'd be tasty if it didn't have processed cheese oozing out of it.

    If I had a dollar for every time a woman said that to me...

  • JMW||

    If I had a dollar for every time a woman said that to me...

    You're scaring me, Sloopy.

  • Bingo||

    This is the image that makes me realize that I've forgotten to eat for the last 12 hours... damn you cold meds.

    My kingdom for an animal-style double-double.

  • ||

    Over 2000 mother fuckers!!!!

  • ||

    Dale Arden or Princess Aura?

    NOOOOO! Not the BORE WORMS!

  • ||

    I'd probably go with Princess Aura as well.

    Only, she was fucking Timothy Dalton on her hideaway on the ice planet. I mean...Timothy Dalton? Makes me think she had a scorching case of herpes and that was the best she could do.

    I swear, I love this movie. Flash just got hit in the headpiece with a metal football by Dr. Zarkov, though.

  • ||

  • ||

    Over 2000 mother fuckers!!!!

    So many ways to go with this one...:-)

  • Metazoan||

    WE HAVE VICTORY!

  • ||

    Oh, the difference a comma makes.

  • ||

    Oh, the difference a comma makes.

    But it was time well spent!

    Or, was it time, well, spent? :-)

  • ||

    You people don't even know what thread you're on.

    And I swear, my Yinzer pics worked to ward off the demons. Henceforth, I shall post them in every thread.

  • ||

    Shows what you know. I adblocked the first one already.

  • ||

    **opens new window**
    **clicks "Commish Tools" tab**
    **manually adjusts FFL scoring**

    I was busy and missed what you said, Tulpa. Could you repeat it?

  • ||

    I said your teeth are all yellow and your butt smells and your semen tastes like castor oil. Now whatcha gonna do about it, Mr Goodell?

  • ||

    I mean, that's what I've heard. About the castor oil.

  • Some Lawyer Named Arthur||

    I'LL take the case!

  • ||

    You're a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and your butt smells and you like to kiss your own butt.

  • ||

    You people

    What's this you people, kimosabe? We worked hard on that, with Banjos and db taking the bull by the horns and leading us to the Promised Land.

    I curse you with a face full of Reubenesque gunt.

  • ||

    Not the gunt!

    **runs upthread**

    Ahhhhh! It's there too.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Not this, I suspect:

    http://www.gunt.de/static/s1_1.php

  • ||

    I mean, that's what I've heard. About the castor oil.

    Sure, Tulpy Poo, sure. You drank the Dimetapp, didja now?

  • ||

    Yeah. Tell me, is it normal to have green poop and abdominal pain and reptilian life forms crawling out from your navel after that?

  • ||

    Choose your passage...into this world or the next. May Arbor guide you.

  • ||

    Uh-oh, one of them is carrying something that's shaped suspiciously like an enlarged prostate.

  • ZORK!||

    >go up chimney

    Kitchen

    On the table is an elongated brown sack, smelling of hot peppers.

    A bottle is sitting on the table.

    The glass bottle contains:

    A quantity of water

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Have you had sex with Tony Robbins in the past three months, Tulpa?

    If not, there's another reptilian hiding under human form out there. Might be one of Mitt's team.

  • ||

    ARRGGH! I misfired! Now I know how sloopy feels.

  • ||

    Yeah. Tell me, is it normal to have green poop and abdominal pain and reptilian life forms crawling out from your navel after that?

    I see your pregnant, too. That explains your moodiness as well; there must be something in the water. Have you been hanging around Banjos' man?

    Clearly this can be blamed on high speed rail.

  • Liberal Twat||

    TRRRAAAACCKKKZZZ!!!!ONE!1!won!!!one

  • ||

    I swear, if there's a fetish enjoyed by more than three people, there's a website chock full o' porn about it.

    Rule 34, FIFY. It knows no bounds.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Well aware of the manna which is Rule 34. But now I gotta find a way to outdo "Tagalog fudge", and it's almost my sleepy-time.

  • ||

    Whatever you come up with, prepare to have it topped.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Damn your eyes, sloopy! I is defeat!

  • Mr. FIFY||

    The Google is stumped. "Tagalog fudge joke" got me nowhere.

    I am frown.

  • ||

    1st: This is not a 'bullet' train like those around the world. CA High speed rail will NOT run on electricity nor levitate on magnets like those in Japan and China. It's just gonna be a 'fast' train (I think about 140mph top speed?) that runs on diesel.
    2nd: I worked on this project at my last job and the only complaints were that we "weren't spending enough money." No joke! actual quotes from my supervisors. No wonder they told us all in a meeting to vote 'yes' just so we could win contracts. Some of the plans require the purchase or taking 50,000 properties in the bay area alone. What a horrible waste of money, when all the pols say that no one will ride it.

  • skylin||

    This might sound a little overblown,13years!

  • Paul||

    So if it is some ows crank spamming the threads, can we conclude she got her $5,500 laptop back?

  • Suki||

    +69

  • Nike Dunk Shoes||

    thanks

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