Welcome to the 22% Libertarian GOP Presidential Debate Open Thread!

By popular demand, your open thread for tonight's GOP debate. Some conversation starters:

* Ron Paul's new ad:

* Gary Johnson's:

* Lucy Steigerwald sets the scene with "Some Reactions to Another Double Helping of Libertarianism."

* Brian Doherty's epic live-blogging of the prior Johnson-participating debate.

* Transcript of said debate (hint: heroin, heroin, heroin!).

* Right after that 40% libertarian exercise, explanations of why it's awesome to have them both from Jesse Walker and Nick Gillespie.

* Links to transcripts of more 2012 GOP presidential debates.

* Links to the 21 GOP debates for the 2008 nomination; including this Maryland forum for you fours-years-ago-this-week obsessives.

* Reason's topic pages on Ron Paul and Gary Johnson.

* Follow Reason & staffers on Twitter, where there'll be some choice commentary tonight:

Reason: @reason
Nick Gillespie: @nickgillespie
Matt Welch: @mleewelch
Jesse Walker: @notjessewalker
Katherine Mangu-Ward: @kmanguward
Tim Cavanaugh: @barteldarcy
Peter Suderman: @petersuderman
Damon W. Root: @damonroot
Mike Riggs: @mikeriggs
Lucy Steigerwald: @lucystag

And if you're REALLY REALLY NICE, there might just be some live-blogging here tonight from yours truly.

9:06: It's Perry & Romney, then everyone else. Perry's already running out the clock, Romney's already refusing to answer the question, already making numbered lists.

9:09: What do you consider rich? Read the Reason-Rupe Poll on how your answer to that question affects your ideas about taxation!

9:11: Rick Santorum deftly (and correctly, IMO), pivots right-to-work question to the issue of public sector unionism.

9:12: Newt Gingrich hearts government re-training, and "mandatory training component"!

9:14: Chris Wallace continues to be the best questioner of this election cycle. Huntsman continues to sound like he's getting the remote feed, one or two seconds off.

9:17: First question to a libertarian! And a Tenther, too! "Veto every single bill that violates the 10th Amendment," Ron Paul says, simply. "No authority to control us as individuals with what we do with our personal lives."

9:21: Gary Johnson pivots from Ron Paul question, stresses limited-government, veto-making bonafides, then pins his hopes on a consumption tax.

9:26: Let's go to some Twitter. Greg Gutfeld: "i also started a one man handyman business. That's what I called it." Mark Hemingway: "Gary Johnson is actually a really impressive guy. Unfortunately, he's also kind of a weird, jittery guy." Jennifer Rubin: "Good grief- do we care who's a better libertarian?"

9:32: More Twitter, since I missed the "I actually wrote my book" exchange. Todd Seavey: "Now might be a good time to mention that #Romney playing the Great Defender of #SocSec has only led me to vow not to vote for him."

9:35: Let's eliminate department! Herman Cain votes the EPA off the island. Read Reason on "How to Slash the State." He then switches to a Chile-style Social Security privatization. Going for the Todd Seavey vote!

9:37: The sun rises, the sun sets, Newt Gingrich pointlessly bitch-slaps a reporter, then promotes a new Contract!

9:39: Gary Johnson doing well appealing to fiscal conservatives. We're 40 minutes in, and Ron Paul has been asked one question.

9:41: Rick Perry pronounces "school choice" as if he's just discovered this great new thing. Then weirdly attacks Romney, who swats it away with a "nice try." Paul got a question in there, using the phrase "opt out." Whoops! Good follow-up question reveals Romney's biggest flaw -- he is an inveterate flip-flopper who is finely calibrated to swat away legitimate questions about his record.

9:46: Whoopee! Here comes the fence-building part. Bachmann goes for the "every inch" approach. Also wants to "end the magnets" of, presumably, emergency room care and public education for illegal immigrants, since that's about the only "welfare" left.

9:48: Gingrich: Outsource e-Verify! So techno-tastic. I can't wait until I never see him on television again. Though he did say "modernize the legal immigration system," which is more than 95% of English-firsters bother with.

9:50: Romney--e-Verify, fence, Border Patrol, no magnets, workplace verification.

9:51: Rick Perry--"I don't think you have a heart." It'll be interesting to see how that plays. Crowd boos.

9:53: Santorum asks the right follow-up question: Why should those students be subsidized? The question deserves an answer. Not currently getting one.

9:56: YES! Ron Paul gets the fence-me-in question. And attacks national ID card. And attacks "blam[ing] illegal immigrants for everything." Nice to hear a different point of view.

10:01: Quick check of Twitter shows I missed Perry's "aviation assets on the ground" crack, and Ron Paul's implied reference to birthright citizenship. Also, the Angels got out of a two-out jam that coulda ruined their slim playoff hopes.

10:02: I JUST REALIZED THAT THE LITTLE G-CHAT SOUND THAT HAS BEEN DRIVING ME CRAZY ALL NIGHT IS COMING FROM THE FREAKING DEBATE ITSELF, AND NOT THE LITTLE MAN IN MY EAR. FIE, GOOGLE, FIE.

10:04: Mitt Romney would totally bomb Iran. Also, he really, really wants to be president (that's Peter Suderman's line, but that's the last time I'm crediting it).

10:06: Every part of Rick Perry's body between his chin and his thumbs is paralyzed. He's being a real trooper, considering.

10:08: There have been some lively, valuable GOP debates this season. This ain't one of them. You've GOT to structure this in some other way besides "OK, how much do YOU love Israel and building a border fence and hating Obamacare?" Bad show, Fox.

10:10: "Some kind of investment approach" to government-directed foreign aid has, if anything, an even worse track record than direct aid, FWIW.

10:11: Whoa.... Gary Johnson busts a 43% reduction in military spending.

10:13: Bachmann, who hasn't talked in hours, cuts in to make sure Americans can't travel to Cuba. I won't miss her when she's gone, though I'd vote others off the island first.

10:14: Huntsman steals the America-should-save-America shtick from Ron Paul and Gary Johnson!

10:17: A couple of people in the crowd boo gay soldier who could totally kick their asses. Nice question. Santorum calls it "tragic." Somewhere Dan Savage is cracking up.

10:19: Ron Paul: "We have too many laws already, how are we going to police the day-after pill?"

10:21: I would be willing to sponsor a consitutional amendment to ban word clouds, BTW.

10:23: Though Katherine Mangu-Ward points out, "Have there been any word clouds that didn't include marijuana?"

10:26: Bachmann finally asked about HPV vaccination. Answers it like she's been studying Mitt Romney very closely.

10:30: Big winner tonight: Sarah Palin.

10:32: Rick Perry seems WAAAY too tired to bust Romney on flip-flopping. 

10:33: "I know what I stand for, I've written it down, words have meaning." Oh, Mitt Romney, didn't you realize that this debate is being sponsored by GOOGLE???

10:37: Mike Murphy: "Wow. That last Perry bit was painful; looked like The Great Walender trying to cross the high wire after a three day meth bender."

10:38: "HOW ARE YOU GOING TO TURN THIS COUNTRY AROUND????" REALLY??? This is a t-e-r-r-i-b-l-e job of moderation. Reason needs to get into this racket.

10:39: Mitt Romney seems unfamiliar with the concept of kitchen tables.

10:40: Wait, NO OTHER people in the world put their hands on their hearts during the national anthem, Mitt Romney? I'll take the over on that bet.

10:41: Rick Perry should never agree to debates after 6 pm.

10:43: Crowd goes nuts over Barack Obama defeat that looks increasingly less likely as the evening wears on.

10:45: Gary Johnson gets biggest laugh line of the night. Was not expecting that. Then claims consumption tax's elimination of corporate tax will create "tens of millions of jobs." I'm skeptical.

10:47: Gary Johnson picks Ron Paul as his veep: Liberty, freedom, monetary collapse.

10:48: Though I hate Newt Gingrich more than I love life, I do appreciate his clown-nose act on this type of stuff.

10:50: Ron Paul, awkwardly, refuses to take the bait. But he also stakes claim as a "top tier" candidate. Which he is, IMO.

Wrap: Well, America lost tonight. By which I mean the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim (very upsetting). And especially Fox News and Google, who cooked up a real turd of a debate, especially compared to Fox's previous effort, which was boffo. At the risk of making way-too-premature analysis....

Mitt Romney's strategy is too look and sound very much like an acceptable-to-non-crazy-people frontrunner. Mission accomplished! Except that he's running to defend Social Security, is maybe even a bigger flip-flopper than his doppleganger John Kerry, and will not rest until every American suffers for his desire to chase the last illegal Mexican across the Rio Grande.

Rick Perry is both sleepy and stiff (I feel your pain, bro!), and at this point seems to be preparing for a vigorous run in 2016. No one cares about Newt Gingrich anymore, Rick Santorum and Herman Cain are early-primary novelties, and Michele Bachmann seems like she's headed that way. Jon Huntsman and Gary Johnson seem to be vying for the media/independent vote, and it will be interesting to see which one (if either) gains some traction in contrarian New Hampshire. Parochially speaking, I think Johnson almost certainly improved his chances of being invited to another debate tonight.

So you have a John Kerry-esque front-runner, a Fred Thompson-style fading favorite, and...this stubborn fella from Texas with the Austrian business cycle theory and the hand-waving and the Constitution. Is the GOP establishment so desperate and scared that they're going to coalesce around a guy none of them trust, let alone the grassroots Tea Party types who have provided 110% of all the political energy in this country the last three years? Is Josh Brolin going to reveal a B game, let alone an A game? What, in this fluid scenario, is Ron Paul's ceiling? And what will he do if he doesn't make (as he kept stressing in his awkward final answer) the "final two"? These are the questions I'm left with after tonight's shindig. Good night, and have a pleasant tomorrow.

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  • Joe M||

    First! Matt, kudos for giving the people what they want.

  • johnl||

    Ditto. Thanks Jeffe.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Not too open, I hope. No fat chicks.

  • Mainer||

    The looser the waistband
    The deeper the quicksand
    Or so I have read.

  • Adam||

    The Paul ad is a good response to couch-commando Santorum's attacks from last week. Amazed he still has yet to mention that he's the biggest recipient of military donations.

  • Name Nomad||

    He's getting better at the useless-but-schmaltzy ads which actually wins voters (rather than the appeals to reason).

  • Joe M||

    Indeed. That ad is a, ahem, "slam dunk". The fact that it's playing during the debates is awesome. I especially like that it builds up for so long before the reveal that it's a Ron Paul ad.

  • Bee Tagger||

    wtf, stephanopoulos takes santorum seriously? i mean, it's sort of like creed telling nickleback they sound awesome, but still.

  • ||

    Let's hope Ron Paul buries them all in 10 feet of shit, shall we?

  • Bee Tagger||

    Do you work for Google? Rick Santorum is probably going to sue you, either way.

  • Rich||

    *Really great* shit.

  • Sudden||

    Gary Johnson's ad is interesting. Is he running for Ron Paul's VP?

  • Joe M||

    Or King of Scotland, perhaps?

  • ||

    There can be only one...

  • smz||

    Cap't I don't think she can take any morrrre!

  • toaster oven||

    Why does his ad have Braveheart music?

  • BakedPenguin||

    I was wondering why Perry appeared more than Johnson in Johnson's ad.

  • Jerry||

    22%, I guess we can already call this debate historic :-)

  • Rich||

    But will it be "unpresidented"?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Bill O'Liarly just called someone a pinhead. Didn't catch who.

  • Bee Tagger||

    One of these days I expect him just to save time and tell us who the patriots are.

  • Bee Tagger||

    Rick Perry, looking especially bushy tonight.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    TOO MANY PRIMARY COLORS THROWN TOGETHER. I'm seizing right now.

  • toaster oven||

    No RP? did I miss his intro?

  • Tman||

  • Adam||

    Wow, the anchor has more orange makeup on that Bachmann!

  • Paultard||

    Why'd Gary Johnson throw a "Sieg Heil!" salute?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    The new sound is a can opener.

  • Joe M||

    Haha, okay, the doorbell joke was pretty funny.

  • Bee Tagger||

    A question from another country in a Republican debate? Isn't that like Supreme Court Justices citing foreign law?

  • Paultard||

    SHARIA!!1!

  • ||

    Which one has the hottest wife? That's who I want Paul to tap as his VP choice.

  • Sudden||

    define tap...

  • Adam||

    Dennis Kucinich, baby!

  • ||

    That kooky ginger retard? I'd rather hit Palin...and that's after Glen "The Wombwrecker" Rice got done with her.

  • ||

    Bachmann

  • Joe M||

    The debate features the POWER OF GOOGLE.

  • Rich||

    Can we have a puking sound for excessively stupid statements?

  • Joe M||

    Ugh, leads with the wrong RP, of course.

  • ||

    Incent my business bitches. Government handouts...not just for big businesses anymore.

  • Joe M||

    The audio sucks online. Is it the same on TV?

  • Rich||

    No.

  • Sudden||

    Rick Perry forgot to mention that part of his economic agenda is creating multimillion dollar political ads produced by Michael Bay.

    Asplosions are the new broker windows.

  • Bee Tagger||

    Perry gets that same smirk that Bush got when he just thought of the next few words he's going to say.

  • Joe M||

    Perry is getting softballs and he's still struggling.

  • johnl||

    The Ron Paul award for stuttering in public goes to Rick Perry.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Also, in Texas, we will speak haltingly and wear a huge ring.

  • Joe M||

    He kind of reminds me of Ashton Kutcher's character on That 70s Show.

  • ||

    It will be interesting to see how they divvy up the questions. Will they treat Johnson with respect or dis him entirely.

  • Bee Tagger||

    Nice, does Mitt have a monochromatic American flag pin?

  • toaster oven||

    sound sucks

  • Bradley||

    Why is it the Google Talk sound? This is so confusing

  • Sudden||

    Shorter Romney: We needz regulatory capturez!

  • Joe M||

    Mitt, government and business already are allies, and it's not going well.

  • Bee Tagger||

    Someone just got a message on gchat.

  • Joe M||

    Ah! That's what that is. I keep seeing if I have an open window with a chat. So they've moved the Pavlovian response from the dogs to the humans.

  • ||

    Will it be proper to call him Doctor President if RP wins? And would Obama demand to be called that if he were given a doctorate?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    If everyone is rich, no one will be.

  • Rich||

    Ask about "reforming the tax code".

  • toaster oven||

    epic fail on the debate interruption sound if watching on the computer

  • BakedPenguin||

    "Don't you dare make me speak in anything but glib generalities!"

  • MWG||

    Romney: 'energy secure' 'cheaters like China' in one breath.

    Barf.

  • toaster oven||

    megan kelly is so hot

  • Paultard||

    The audio is fucked on Faux News.

    Romney wants government to be an ally of business. You know who else based his political system on government allied with business?

  • ||

    Ross Perot.

  • johnl||

    Der Gropenfuhrer?

  • Anonymous Coward||

    Il Duce?

  • Joe M||

    Okay, now, is everyone going to get extra followups to talk even more like the plastic twins did?

  • Joe M||

    No.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Did Bachmann just come out against the income tax?

  • Bradley||

    No. If you suffered through her answer long enough, there was a "but..." near the end of it,

  • ||

    Yes, you should be able to keep all the money you earn. But then you have to give some to the govt.

  • johnl||

    With no quantitative limit. This was a meatball over the middle for her and she's called for a strike.

  • ||

  • Bee Tagger||

    Oooo, Michelle Bachmann wants to be the biggest libertarian. No more taxes.

  • Rich||

    Just "give-backs" for gov't services.

  • Jerry||

    Bachmann: "You can keep all your money ... government needs your money."

  • Douglas Adams||

    42

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Ha! Hitting Santorum with Google right off the bat.

  • smz||

    google mapz!!

  • MWG||

    Whoa Bachamann! Big red!

  • Apatheist||

    Why is Bachmann wearing a clown suit?

  • Paultard||

    She knew Gary Johnson was participating and assumed it was the theme for the debate?

  • ||

    BTW, does anyone know how long is this jircle cerk supposed to last?

  • kilroy||

    2hrs

  • ||

    OY, I'm too old to stay up that late. I hope to see GJ speak before I have to shut down for the day

  • MWG||

    I was just wondering the same thing...

  • ||

    Santorum...uh, what was the question? Is it federal law or state law to decide right to work?

  • Bee Tagger||

    Rick Santorum, we here at Fox want you to be taken seriously so we're going to ask you a question 4th, in the order we've ranked the candidates for the American people: Perry, Romney, Bachmann, Santorum.

    Ha, nice. Now Gingrich.

  • Joe M||

    And Huntsman, and then Cain, and then, if we have time, Paul. Then commercial break and cycle around again.

  • Joe M||

    Ha called it.

  • Joe M||

    Oh good, they put Santorum and Gingrich next to each other, so they can love each other even more.

  • Sudden||

    Shorter Newt: Instead of just throwing away money on paying people to do nothing, we should pay them to attend our ridiculously expensive training programs!!

  • smz||

    Experiment!! States!! 50!!

  • Adam||

    57 if you ask our President

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Re-newtucation camps for the unemployed.

  • Rich||

    Newt comes out for "the lab of democracy".

  • Bradley||

    "Good evening, Canada"?

  • Bee Tagger||

    You may be wearing a lemon tie, Huntsman, but your face is still more citrusy

  • John Boehner||

    I want that tie!

  • smz||

    Huntzy ketchup going for the cheap pop: ORLANDO!!!

  • ||

    Huntsman..the Un candidate.

  • johnl||

    Asked specifically for a number, Michelle can't think of a number.

  • Sudden||

    The first thing in her head was a letter that's why

  • MWG||

    Nice question to Huntsman. A subsidy is a subsidy is subsidy...

  • Bee Tagger||

    Of course, Huntsman also gets a question before Ron Paul

  • Sudden||

    Shorter Huntsman: Don't subsidize solar; subsidize natural gas!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    "Unprecedented, unnatural, and un-American."

    Much like a Huntsman presidential run.

  • Joe M||

    And fucking Huntsman gets a followup.

  • smz||

    9-9-9 Pizza!! Tuesday night only.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    WooOOooohoooOOoooo! Nines!

  • johnl||

    Huntsman wants subsidies for profitable businesses?

  • ||

    It's the 999 deal. 9% income tax, 9% sales tax, 9 breadsticks all for $9.99.

  • kilroy||

    Except when I support a subsidy.

  • Bee Tagger||

    USPS Free delivery when you order 3 taxes.

  • smz||

    no there's no danger in that?! WTF?! CAIN!!!

  • ||

    He won't have any Muslims in his cabinet, so America will be safe.

    Next question.

  • Sudden||

    Shorter Cain: I'ma run da govt like a run da pizza bidniz. Ya get it all for $9.99

  • smz||

    Cain touches his fingers a lot.

  • kilroy||

    And it's catchy. We need a 9/9/9 mascot.

  • Rich||

    How about "nein-nein-nein"?

  • ||

    Cain wants a mutiny.

    Too many taxes, all teasing politicians to raise them

  • ||

  • Bee Tagger||

    Audience: WE LOVE COLLOQUIALISMS!

  • sevo||

    "9:12: Newt Gingrich hearts government..."
    'Nuff said.

  • hazeeran||

    Hey Cain, didn't the income tax start out as a flat tax? And when we revamped it in the 80's, how long was it simplified?

  • Joe M||

    WTF what fucking rule? Romney gets even more time?

  • hazeeran||

    convenient!

  • ||

    So, can Gary Johnson and Ron Paul name each other back and forth to abuse that "30 second response"

  • Bee Tagger||

    Ha, website url across his hat. Fantastic.

  • ||

    I bet President Camacho could have given better answers than the first four halfwits.

  • Sudden||

    OMG!!!! the white guy is wearing MOOZLEM GARB!!!1!1!!!1!

  • kilroy||

    Wow. Paul gets a real question!

  • ||

    Softball right down the middle.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    That head gear, whatever it was, got the votes.

  • Joe M||

    Haha okay is this a tailor-made question for Paul?

  • smz||

    PAUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111!! Answer a complex constitutional question NOW!!! 15 seconds!

  • Adam||

    YES VETO!!!!

    Perfect answer.

  • Ron paul||

    Veto everything!

  • Gary Johnson||

    I veto everything!

  • Rich||

    Yeah, Dr. Paul!

  • Bee Tagger||

    Gary Johnson, just say the same thing as Ron Paul so we can belittle you.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Fight over the scraps, Paul and Johnson. GO!

  • Joe M||

    Oh fuck them. They are not going to do this. Just pitting Paul against Johnson immediately?

  • Sudden||

    I said it in the other thread. The only reason the power that be are letting him in the debate is that they're scared at how well Ron Paul is polling and they're hoping like hell that GJ will sipher away some of his supporters.

  • pendant||

    GJ will sipher away

    Is that anything like siphoning?

  • Sudden||

    Shorter Brett Beier: How can we use you to take steam away from Ron Paul? He scares the establishment.

  • Adam||

    GOD not the effing "one man handyman" line again. this guy is a broken record.

  • ||

    One man handyman? Is that innuendo?

  • SIV||

  • kilroy||

    You might have noticed that people are concerned about jobs.

  • Matt||

    "this guy is a broken record"

    He's staying on message. There's a school of thought that says you need to stay on message, keep drilling the same points. Works great for advertisers, why not for a political campaign?

  • Rich||

    Gary, lose the thumb.

  • ||

    oooh...split screen on the two libertarians!

  • hazeeran||

    has that ever happened before?

  • ||

    two libertarians haven;t been on the same debate stage before, so I am guessing no ;)

  • Matt||

    My, how far we have come!

  • Bee Tagger||

    Great start for Gary Johnson.

  • kilroy||

    Way to go Gary!!

  • ||

    Go GARY!

  • Lurker||

    Nice work Mr. Johnson!

  • smz||

    Gov Johnson, thank you. Now we don't have to ask you another question.

  • smz||

    Gov Johnson, thank you. Now we don't have to ask you another question.

  • toaster oven||

    I hear an IM sound but no one is IMing me. How odd.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Most interactive, indeed. I've been punching my TV screen all night.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    (And, yes, that is a euphemism for doing my girlfriend.)

  • Joe M||

    Johnson did a nice job getting his points out.

  • SIV||

    Gary Johnson is a damn "fairtaxer"? Doesn't he know Boortz is in the bag for Perry?

  • ||

    So? It is one of the better ideas out there, why not support it?

  • SIV||

    Because it is a stalking horse for a VAT.

  • ||

    Yeah, that is a danger. But done correctly it would be better than what we have now. far from perfect though.

  • ||

    Yeah, that is a danger. But done correctly it would be better than what we have now. far from perfect though.

  • BakedPenguin||

    Hah. Good deflection by GJ.

  • bill||

    what a useless online poll

  • ||

    Very classy ad from governor Johnson. If Ron Paul hadn't run this time, I'd be supporting Gary Johnson. As it is, I think he'd make a fine vice president or secretary of the treasury.

    -jcr

  • Joe M||

    44% is not a majority, Shannon.

  • johnl||

    Nice dodge Gary! The moderator can attack Paul himself if he wants to.

  • Joe M||

    Hell yes he's got better things to do.

  • smz||

    charts hurt my head.

  • toaster oven||

    WORD CLOUD

  • Bradley||

    ILLEGAL

  • hazeeran||

    44% is a PLURALITY

  • Bradley||

    These techo-interludes are incredibly boring

  • Joe M||

    The internet idiots are talking shit about Paul.

  • SIV||

    Fairtaxer GOP candidates:

    The Huckster (in 2008)
    Herman Cain
    Gary Johnson?

    I guess when Cain made up 999 Johnson picked up the loose ball?

  • kilroy||

    There are a few more. fairtax.org has a scorecard.

  • A Serious Man||

    NumbersUSA: Making 1850s nativism cool again!

  • Joe M||

    Paul is in favor of a strong defense, bitches.

  • Joe M||

    Anyone watching on TV? Is the Ron Paul ad playing?

  • ||

    Holy crap, the commercial break people on YouTube are ripping Ron Paul too on foreign policy.

  • 44%||

    That one over there he makes more than a million! Get him!

  • Congresscreature||

    Yeah! Get that one over there!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Is Rick Scott from the future?

  • SIV||

    He's harnessed the neutrinos.

  • Sudden||

    Good evening, I'm florida governor rick scott, I have the same haircut as Slap the Enlightened!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Ugh, no one wants to hear specifics from Rick Perry.

  • johnl||

    Perry and I both believe that you *can* read his book.

  • bill||

    here we go perry,romney, FIGHT!

  • Bee Tagger||

    Holy. Crap. More social security?

  • Joe M||

    That's right, Perry, walk it back, nice and easy.

  • Apatheist||

    I hope that whatever beast is dropping all that bullshit goes after Bachmann instead of Kelly.

  • ||

    Perry's been near incoherent so far tonight.

  • Bee Tagger||

    Robot Romney make joke.

  • Joe M||

    Romney, very weak, sir, very weak. Are you suggesting he's a flip-flopper??? Takes one to know one, I suppose.

  • toaster oven||

    you've got mail

  • Sudden||

    Shorter Mitt Romney: I advocate scaring old people. Old people don't like the colored fella in the white house, we can't afford to lose them.

  • Matt||

    Okay, everyone, let's find that Social Security hating Perry. $1mil dollar reward from Romney!

  • Rich||

    Mitt, listen to yourself! "Real", indeed.

  • Joe M||

    This debate is officially a farce.

  • Mitt Romney||

    I have a plan for everything.

  • Bradley||

    How did I know this was going to turn into a 2-man debate?

  • Bee Tagger||

    Badminton? He just undid all of the tough guy Texan stuff in 1 word.

  • Joe M||

    And... back to Romney. Fuck this.

  • ||

    He mentioned himself so he gets 30 seconds.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    The rest of you can go home.

  • Joe M||

    Whoa audio online just went to shit. Or I'm having an acid flashback.

  • toaster oven||

    you've got mail

  • Joe Biden||

    I'd like to think I had something to do with Perry's grin.

  • alexdroog||

    What the fuck is this?

    "We have plenty of questions for the other candidates... but fuck 'em."

  • A Serious Man||

    Weather update for Orlando: bitchy with a chance of faux indignation.

  • bill||

    uh oh the "S" word

  • Bradley||

    Damn right. Let's have some all-American fascism. None of this eurofag socialist shit.

  • Matt||

    God these Romney and Perry guys are mighty petty.

  • Apatheist||

    Mitt Romney: "It's time someone had the courage to stand up and say: I'm against those things that everybody hates."
    Rick Perry: "Now, I respect my opponent. I think he's a good man. But quite frankly, I agree with everything he just said."
    Mitt Romney: "I say your three cent titanium tax goes too far."
    Rick Perry: "And I say your three cent titanium tax doesn't go too far enough."

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Opening the door for Nixon's head on a robot body.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Finally, someone gets around to trashing Europe.

  • Joe M||

    Hello, is there anyone else on the stage? This is becoming offensive.

  • Matt||

    Romney and Perry, nobody gives a darn what you wrote in your crappy books that nobody reads.

  • toaster oven||

    I wonder if Europe ever said, "America doesn't work in America, why try it here?"

  • ||

    Yes, in 1815.

  • Rich||

    22%, biotches.

  • Matt||

    I didn't inhale? WTF?

  • Matt||

    I didn't inhale? WTF?

  • ||

    That Mitt Romney, he sure is polite. Thank you.

  • ||

    Romney didn't inhale for four years? That must have been some serious autoerotica.

  • Bee Tagger||

    +1

  • JJJ||

    America is the hope of the earth? wtf is this a Michael Bay movie?

  • Apatheist||

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    It's about time someone dragged out Reagan's corpse.

  • Jerry||

    Yo Huntsman, Reagan raised taxes.

  • Joe M||

    Drink baby.

  • toaster oven||

    you've got mail

  • Joe M||

    How original to hate your ex-boss, Huntsman.

  • ||

    Man, Gary Johnson and Ron-Paul just get to hang out on stage.

  • Bee Tagger||

    I would eliminate the EPA, SO I COULD BUILD A BETTER ONE.

  • Sudden||

    It's the Paul Krugman model:
    1. Destory
    2. Rebuild
    3. ?
    4. Stimuluz!!!

  • Sudden||

    Shorter Cain: If I was forced to eliminate a department, but only if I was forced to.

  • ||

    EPA is not a department.

  • Herman Cain||

    The EPA is having Gone Wild parties in Cancun.

  • Matt||

    EPA GIRLS GONE WILD!!! WOOO!! $59.95 per month

  • Jerry||

    First dept. to eliminate, the Treasury Department of course.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    So, he's eliminating the EPA, but not really.

  • toaster oven||

    Chilean models. YES!

  • Joe M||

    Oh my god, what a cop-out of an answer. "I'd eliminate it, then bring it right back, but this time, it would work!"

  • Matt||

    Does the Chilean model also include "disappearing" political dissidents?

  • Rich||

    "The solution is: Fix it!"

    Brilliant!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Warshington.

  • Bee Tagger||

    The carpital of the United States of Amurrica.

  • Joe M||

    Haha, okay, Gingrich, go after the moderators! Sic'em!

  • Bee Tagger||

    Is Gingrich gonna have to smack a bitch?

  • ||

    Gingrich complaining about the question again.

  • alexdroog||

    I don't want to think about going down together with Newt. *barf*

  • Apatheist||

    That greek bonds bit was actually pretty good.

  • Newt||

    The 2oth century is killing the 21st.

  • Matt||

    "Socialism" , DRINK!

  • Joe M||

    Oh god, not this shit again. Gingrich is Uncle Rico throwing the football.

  • BakedPenguin||

    Okay Newcular Titties, would you follow it, unlike 1994?

  • toaster oven||

    you've got mail

  • JJJ||

    wtf is that beeping sound?

  • Bee Tagger||

    Stella's eyeshadow has a question about education.

  • ||

    I don't know how he does it, but Noot manages to somehow sound serious ev'ry time he be talkin'

  • ||

    We've never had a 2.7T surplus, Newt. Projections are worth the toilet paper you wiped your ass with this morning. (assuming you wiped)

  • toaster oven||

    He did not wipe. No time. Too many big ideas.

  • Rich||

    "All of the candidates" includes Paul and Johnson, I hope.

  • Teacher||

    Administrators are bending over for the Federal gubment hiring more administrators and not helping teachers.

  • ||

    I know it's superficial, but what hte hell is with GJs hair?

  • kilroy||

    It froze on the summit of Everest.

  • Apatheist||

    Gary Johnson hates children!

  • Sudden||

    Shorter Santorum: Exactly what Gary Johnson said, except without all the potsmoking and abortions

  • ||

    Santorum mentioned Johnson, so he gets 30 seconds. Right?

  • Joe M||

    Hahaha, riiiiiight. You have to be at least six feet tall for that ride.

  • Bradley||

    No, only Perry and Romney get to respond.

  • Joe M||

    Oh Santorum, you can't agree with Johnson! He's another one of this stinky peacenik libertarians.

  • WWNGD?||

    I watched the first 12 minutes and got a really bad headache.
    I have listened to Gary Johnson before, unfortunately he is just not ready/polished enough for prime time.

  • johnl||

    Rick Santorum just said "It's like Gary Johnson just said".

  • A Serious Man||

    So far Gary Johnson has been the most coherent. RP doesn't exist so I can't really comment on his performance.

  • Santorum||

    We need a teachers union of parents and a Federal Dept to tell them how to raise their children.

  • ||

    it's exactly what Gary Johnson just said
  • ||

    That was Santorum who said that just above.

  • Matt||

    AWESOME answer about education by Santorum. I'll tell you what, when the guy's right (which is extremely rare, I admit), he really does articulate his positions well.

  • Adam||

    Paul should just say "get rid of it, and remember it was bush that did NCLB"

  • Apatheist||

    Well weren't you prescient.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Opt the fuck out.

  • Ron Paul||

    The most feared words in the English language should be "I'm from the gubment I'm here to help". Veto everything!

  • ||

    opt out...Ron Paul won;t be getting hte teacher's vote!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Of course, no non-Democrat will.

  • Joe M||

    Really nice answer from Paul on that, one of his more coherent. ;)

  • bill||

    Perry is the front runner? HOW?

  • Bee Tagger||

    no kidding. he's terrible on so many levels.

  • smokey back room||

    He just is. Deal with it.

  • SIV||

    Perry: "Romney is a dirty Obama lover!"

  • ||

    Wow Ron Paul rawked and shocked the nation with his answer...

  • ||

    They'll hate him when he talks about foreign policy though!

  • ||

    Is that a Wu-Tang reference?

  • Joe M||

    At least Romney is next in line anyway, so he can't double dip on his time, right? Right?

  • Joe M||

    Oh my god! Those fuckheads!

  • Sudden||

    Shorter Rick Perry: I'mma spend all night pickin on that damn yankee Romney.

  • Bee Tagger||

    Mitt Romeny would eliminate the Department of Education so that HE COULD BUILD A BETTER ONE.

  • A Serious Man||

    Quick, some trick Rick Parry into saying his name backwards.

  • Rich||

    Whence "the standards that must be met"?

  • Matt||

    Translation: Romney wants to expand NCLB

  • Joe M||

    And they'll give Perry more time because Romney is talking about him.

  • bill||

    lets just give Romney more time, thank you

  • ||

    Note that Santorum mentioned Johnson but they didn't give him any extra time.

  • ||

    Well, Santorum agreed with Johnson when he mentioned him. Perhaps it was a clever scheme by Santorum.

    Santorum actually is doing very well, though some of his answers may be too nuanced (but philosophically well-grounded.)

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Does Romney not understand he's running against Perry, not Obama?

  • ||

    God dammit, I'm the frontrunner! The nomination's mine, dammit! MINE!!

  • Bradley||

    Holy shit, Michelle Bachmann is still on stage?

  • ||

    Romney: Put Parents in Charge ...wow

    That's some hard shit that Chief head mormon is pushing right there...

  • Joe M||

    "Mother of all repeals." I see what you did there.

  • Sudden||

    Jesus Christ, I can't fucking stand Rick Perry. He's making me think Romney is smart. He accuses Romney of some shit, and then just stands there with this gawdawful smirk on his face like a 7 year old who just saw his classmate get busted for calling someone a poopoo head.

    Perry is a petulant fucking child. Keep this man away from the oval office.

  • Apatheist||

    Welcome to the hell we Texans have been through for the last decade. I hope he wins, a cocksucker is going to win anyways and at least he won't be Governor anymore.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Turn out the lights. Oooooohhhhh yeeaaaahhhhh.

  • Matt||

    School choice is a false front. It is another form corporate welfare. No better than public education and maybe even worse. Just as bad as investing Social Security in the stock market, which picks winners and subsidizes big businesses at the expense of others.

  • ||

    Social security was never invested in the stock market, so I'm not sure how you know it subsidized big biz.

  • Matt||

    i know that, but some GOPers proposed it!

  • ||

    I do think some of the candidates are decidedly more articulate at this stage than earlier debtaes...Perry excluded.

  • A Serious Man||

    Does Michelle Bachmann diferentiate between her adopted and biological kids at home? That struck me as odd.

  • SIV||

    Foster, not adopted. She sent her own kids to private Christian school and was appalled at the Public school her foster kids went to so she got in to politics to try and fix it.

  • toaster oven||

    you've got mail

  • ||

    Bachman gives you that Church-lady hawtness that makes me want to take her to the Rectory Basement and get to work on her...

  • Apatheist||

    Bachmann's vagina cures the gay.

  • kilroy||

    I laughed at this.

  • ||

    The only problem with localization is that you get creation "science" and stuff like that.

  • ||

    No problem...the creation studiers languish in manual labor jobs serving the states where they value real education.

  • SIV||

    No. They become public school teachers.

  • ||

    true, but with local control, they will be fenced in with their like minded relatives.

  • SIV||

    Not if they move.

  • ||

    Freedom is funny like that. People will make choices you don't like.

  • EscapedWestOfTheBigMuddy||

    This.

  • Summariazed Tulpa||

    People will make choices you don't like.

    Well then freedom is fucking horrible.

  • Joe M||

    There's really not much disagreement here, except most of them would have zero follow-through on eliminating the DoE.

  • Bee Tagger||

    Tim Emerson, you have a future in the media. You embedded your prejudices in the wording of the question, just like a good journalist.

  • Apatheist||

    Ok I've pinpointed it now, Bachmann looks like the alien from Mars Attack who sneaks into the White House.

  • Adam||

    Spot on!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Text message. omg imgrantz on mi lawn wtf O_o

  • Rich||

    How about some video questions *from* illegal immigrants? That oughta precipitate some action.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Magnets. How they work.

  • Joe M||

    Bachmann's ribbon is really shiny. Almost hypnotic...

  • Huntsman's Tie||

    I can't take my eyes off it.

  • ||

    Fox News Barbie's fake eyelashes, driving me nuts!

  • ||

    Small Government National ID check...

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    shhhhhhhhhh

  • ||

    AND Small Government Berlin Walls, double WIN!!!

  • Joe M||

    *sigh* I hate these questions.

  • ||

    National id Newt????

  • Joe M||

    I thought Gingrich was going to say we should outsource e-Verify to India.

  • toaster oven||

    he did kinda

  • Apatheist||

    Shorter immigration question:

    You know what will improve the economy, more regulation of businesses by the federal government?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Bachmann heard her name.

  • Bradley||

    Corporate-run fascism is so much more efficient than government-run fascism.

    Thanks Newt!

  • toaster oven||

    English #1!

  • Bee Tagger||

    wow, just wow. english as the official language of the government literally had nothing to do with that question. that's just how excited he is about that idea.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    OMFG.

  • Joe M||

    And... back to the plastix.

  • ||

    Newt: I'm a small government conservative. I want to make sure everyone in the whole country has their name in a database so we can keep track of them. That's a core small-government principle of mine.

  • ||

    Why would employers object to....

    Because it's one more goddamn thing on the backs of business owners. Keep piling on Newcular.

  • Joe M||

    Uh, wait a second, that's rate is not for illegals. It's for children of illegals born in Texas.

  • ||

    No, it's for children of illegals brought to Texas by their parents.

    The question is kind of stupid anyway, since someone from another state can get the discounted tuition by working in Texas for a year before entering college (as the illegals are probably doing).

  • Apatheist||

    Actually its for the children of illegals brought by their children. The children born in Texas are already American and Texan citizens. Of course any sensible person wouldn't blame a 4 year old for being carried over the border but....

  • A Serious Man||

    So Mitt Romney doesn't understand the one position of Perry that does make sense?????

  • Bee Tagger||

    THE EARTH'S CORE IS ONE GIANT MAGNENT.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    And has a bunch of brown people standing around outside its Home Depots using up its free health care.

  • ||

    Yeah Mitt, people are streaming in to go to A&M.

  • kilroy||

    He called her Michele. He's hit that!

  • toaster oven||

    You've got mail.

  • ||

    Does Rick Perry remind anyone else of a character from Machete?

  • Hairball||

    Hey, I come up pretty often, too!

  • BakedPenguin||

    It's the Mitt and Rick show! Now with special guests Herman, Michelle, Ron...

  • ||

    The Republicans obsession with "illegals" just kills them with any potential crossover voters.

  • SIV||

    Crossover from where? Mexico?

  • kilroy||

    Is Perry's collar sewn to his suit?

  • toaster oven||

    Perry just said I have no heart.

  • Joe M||

    I think Gary Johnson has some experience with being a border state. Maybe ask him about immigration?

  • ||

    I love Gary's immigration stance, but it would be the immediate end of his campaign. Glad he's been avoided so far.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Children are such a drag.

  • Joe M||

    Ha Santorum is a jackass.

  • ||

    ^^^indeed. The sooner he is out of the race the better.

  • ||

    Mr Santorum in the past you have worked yourself up into a froth over illegal immigration.

  • toaster oven||

    Do out of staters want to go to universities in Texas?

  • SIV||

    They have two of the best public universities in the country, so YES.

  • Rick Santorum||

    Nigger pile on Perry!

  • ||

    lol

  • ||

    We need a MONEY FENCE!

  • The Money Pit||

    A MONEY HOLE!

  • Apatheist||

    Is the the one time we can whip out "think of the children?"

    I mean what the fuck is wrong with these people, were talking about people who came across the border when they were children.

  • ||

    The Tru-link endorsement in this election could be huge.

  • Bender Bending Rodriguez||

    Oh SNAP, Rick Santorum just drank Perry's milkshake.

  • Joe M||

    This is absolutely insulting how manipulated and skewed the entire process is. Just sickening.

  • Bee Tagger||

    Perry is killing it in the immigration topic, I'll give him credit. Fantastic take-down of Santorum on the fence issue.

  • hazeeran||

    Well he made it a dichotomy between "boots on the ground" and "build a wall"

  • toaster oven||

    If we can put a man on the moon then we can also build a big ass fence.

  • Rachel Maddow||

    National Greatness motherfuckers!

  • Adam||

    Man, Santorum is AWESOME tonight!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Sweet dreams and aviation assets on the ground...

  • Rick Santorum||

    HULK SMASH IMMIGRANTS!

  • Joe M||

    Oh god this is CRAP. Let's not ask a serious question of Paul. God forbid. FUCK CHRIS WALLACE.

  • ||

    If he doesn't want to get questions like that maybe he shouldn't compare the border fence to the Berlin Wall.

  • Wallace||

    Ron Paul are you really George Orwell?

  • ||

    Oh fuck, they're bringing up the Berlin Wall comment again....

  • ||

    Ron Paul...killing it on getting small minded people to think about how what you use against someone today gets used against you tomorrow.

  • Small Minded Person||

    Paul is fucking crazy. This is America.

  • Joe M||

    Ha Paul deflected that question nicely, and riffed off onto National ID. Well played sir!

  • ||

    This old guy sounds like a Paultard!

  • ||

    Rick Perry just promised to defeat the Drug Cartels.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

  • Apatheist||

    GOOGLE GOOGLE GOOGLE GOOGLE

  • Bee Tagger||

    crap, end birthright citizenship? i'm cringing over here.

  • Bender Bending Rodriguez||

    Yes. YES! Where the hell has THIS Ron Paul been hiding?

  • Google||

    People searching for coupons on foreclosures.

  • toaster oven||

    More americans than ever are searching for PORN!!!!!!!!

  • Apatheist||

    Um that bar graph is all kinds of fucked up.

  • ||

    DATA-MINING is teh cree-PY!!

  • Google||

    And now it's time for the folks at Google to present an ad disguised as meaningful information to the debate.

  • Jerry||

    Amazed that Newt didnt mention Google as a company that could run a database...

  • ||

    40% majority?

  • Joe M||

    Math is hard.

  • Apatheist||

    So is drawing proportional bars apparently.

  • Joe M||

    I'd say asking Paul about the fence is drink-worthy.

  • Republican Pissing Match||

    This pussy next to me just wants to put a wall up and require everyone to be ID'd, I would chip every American citizen and put predator drones on the border.

  • kilroy||

    no Paul commercial yet....

  • Apatheist||

    I doubt they national ad buys and if they are his campaign hasn't learned anything from last go around.

  • Bradley||

    Holy cow. I almost can't believe how bad these breaks are.

  • Matt||

    Tough question for Dr. Paul, he got a bit tongue-tied on the answer could have phrased the point a bit better, but I think he did recover.

  • ||

    I just tuned in and am wondering if Gary Johnson is even there. Is he? Has he answered any questions yet? Have they tried to pit him against Paul yet? Any info appreciated.

    WEED!

  • Apatheist||

    yes

  • kilroy||

    He's had 2 and done pretty well.

  • SIV||

    Gary is a fairtaxer one-armed handyman veto machine.

  • Joe M||

    Word clouds aren't exactly a brand new idea. Marijuana!

  • ||

    And note there will not be a single question about marijuana tonight, despite its apparent significance.

  • Adam||

    Ha, these commentators are loving Paul!

  • Joe M||

    Yeah he was fellating Paul but earlier he said his foreign policy views would piss people off. And how timely, because I'm betting Paul is going to get some boos soon.

  • toaster oven||

    commentator said something like "Ron Paul is wrecking shit up down there"

  • Voros McCracken||

    What commentator are you talking about?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Pardoning Google? Santorum sure won't be.

  • Bee Tagger||

    Running for President must be so easy when the media has decided you're one of the best candidates.

  • Bradley||

    The biggest foreign policy issue is, uh… Israel?

  • toaster oven||

    How dare you suggest that Israel has a powerful lobby!

  • Apatheist||

    Existential threats? WTF?

  • Bradley||

    Dude's been practising those glottal stops. How do you like it when I speak your terrorist language, huh, Arabs?? HUH??

  • ||

    At least he didn't poach on '08 BO's turf and go on and on about Pocky-stahn.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Marcus talks like a foreigner. GET HIM, NEWT!

  • Bee Tagger||

    Did Romney just propose a Friends With Benefits foreign policy?

  • Adam||

    How about a question about Washington's Farewell Address warning against "passionate attachments"?

  • ||

    Dude, get real. That was like a hundred years ago.

  • toaster oven||

    not an inch of space between friends!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Personal space violation.

  • ||

    Which brings us back to Santorum.

  • ||

    You know who else built settlements?

  • I support evil||

    Stand behind them and do rabbit ears

  • kilroy||

    If Iran tries to become a nuke power what are you gonna do?

  • ||

    Declare it 'unacceptable'. But only after carefully considering that word...get it? Get it?

  • ||

    Also, the Angels got out of a two-out jam that coulda ruined their slim playoff hopes.

    Ah, right, that means Matt Welch must be doing this liveblog.

  • Bradley||

    Pilgrims?

  • Bee Tagger||

    Herman Cain just got the Sammy Davis Jr. vote.

  • Apatheist||

    I'd like to hear Rosencrantz and Guildenstern's opinions on existential threats.

  • Godot||

    They will, but they're waiting for me to get there.

  • ||

    Where the fuck did Herman come from? Jesus, there's like twenty people up there.

    I'll take the jeero pie, Mr. Cain.

  • ||

    Well, that means fuck all. (graph)

  • toaster oven||

    My first move would be to move to Canada.

  • Bee Tagger||

    Governor Perry, it's 3 am and you feel a dump coming on in 5 seconds but the bathroom is 10 seconds away, what do you do?

  • toaster oven||

    Gen. Santorum, reporting for duty.

  • Rich||

    "The Pakistani country"?

    Perry seems rattled.

  • ||

    There are two Pakistans, you moran.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    THEN WHY DON'T WE ELECT OUR GENERALS PRESIDENT?

  • kilroy||

    Low applause for staying in Iraq for scrotum.

  • Joe M||

    Rick Perry is making my neck hurt.

  • ||

    Santorum has apparently never heard of civilian command of the military, not the other way around.

  • ||

    "I'm hearing numbers"....from WHOM?

  • ||

    Hint: she wears blue and is eternally pregnant.

  • Bee Tagger||

    WAR IS ABOUT WINNING!

  • ||

    Bets on them not giving Paul 30 seconds even though Santorum just dissed him?

  • Joe M||

    Well all three (Paul, Huntsman, Perry) of them should get time, right?

  • ||

    Is Rick using boTox? his face looks weird.

  • Apatheist||

    Liar! Rick Perry has the beautiful face of a genuine yell leader.

  • ||

    Oh shit, him too. I meant Santorum...

    Wow, they both have that mature upper middle class lady glazed look.

  • toaster oven||

    Gen. Santorum, reporting for duty.

  • Adam||

    The frothy mix should be a-ok now that DADT is gone

  • Joe M||

    Okay, sooo... Johnson has had 1.5 questions, Ron Paul 2.5 questions. Rick Perry, about a dozen.

  • I support evil||

    What is our national security objective in Iraq?

  • toaster oven||

    winning the peace

  • Adam||

    Chickenhawk speaks, cue Paul ad.

  • ||

    Apparently they forgot about that 30 second response rule....

  • ||

    You keep the speaker title?

  • Bee Tagger||

    Thanks for getting dressed up Butch!

  • ||

    Haha, they didn't even blink in jumping to Gingrich after Santorum called out Ron Paul.

  • Joe M||

    Four legs good, two legs bad better.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Butch looks crazy. There, I said it.

  • Amerifuntimes||

    Gingrich looks like the fancy feast cat.

  • Apatheist||

    The man is right, we should stop giving billions of dollars to Israel. Am I right guys?

  • toaster oven||

    no, we mean the godless countries

  • George Washington||

    Free trade will alliances with none.

  • kilroy||

    I've been supporting sending money overseas until I got that question.

  • ||

    Let's get real, Mr. Titties.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Newt is in danger of becoming more dramatic.

  • Bee Tagger||

    Mr. Speaker, if we give you a minute for this question, will you please use at least 10 seconds to fear-monger?

  • Adam||

    Really? A Balanced Budget? You didn't mention that yet.

  • ||

    WOOO! GEEJAY

    Finally.

  • kilroy||

    Okay GJ needs to address the question he's asked.

  • Joe M||

    Heh, Johnson is going to just ignore that question and hammer his points over and over.

  • ||

    Oooooh, Gary. miss. answer the question FIRST, quickly, then go on to something else.

  • SIV||

    He must think he's running for Miss New Mexico.

  • ||

    What the fuck does Bachmann have to do with this.

  • ||

    Status quo!!! WOO!

  • ||

    Apparently Bachmann thinks if Hillary Clinton says it it must be true.

  • Bachmann||

    Castro killed JFK!

  • ||

    Who the fuck is this guy?

  • Apatheist||

    I think Bachmann's skin just fell off her face.

  • SIV||

    Michele Bachmann: Take a boat if you want to go to Cuba.

  • ||

    Huntsman v. Santorum, electric boogaloo

  • Joe M||

    So people can just ask for time? I don't see that in the rule book! And now Huntsman gets time? ANARCHY!

  • Voros McCracken||

    Why are two guys polling at 1% having an extended debate?

  • Bee Tagger||

    Fine, I'll say it. It is infuriating how much time Santorum has had to speak tonight.

  • Huntsman||

    Bring the troops home Santorum.

    Santorum: Your sick!

  • ||

    Oh, Huntsman.

  • toaster oven||

    RP doesn't get to weigh in on foreign policy?

  • ||

    We'll stand up for our values by killing people thousands of miles away! Yeah Santorum!

  • Bee Tagger||

    Afghanistein! Love it! Jews and Arabs together in harmony!

  • Apatheist||

    Santorum: Victory in Afghanistein!

  • toaster oven||

    One hand tied behind our genitals? what?

  • Adam||

    NUKE EM ALL
    Santorum Foreign Policy

  • ||

    Santorum: Until we can kill more people more easily we won;t win.

  • Joe M||

    Okay, Huntsman just gets a freebie, then he ignores the warning bell. What. The. Fuck. And Santorum gets time now. This is beyond bullshit.

  • Joe M||

    We should be fighting wars to kill brown people, duh.

  • cabinets||

    When do we get to see Rick Santorum bravely lead the charge into battle?

  • toaster oven||

    wow, no RP on foreign policy. They moved on.

  • Apatheist||

    Megyn Kelly for president!

  • ||

    You can tell Santorum knows he lost by the fact that he let them go to another candidate after the Huntsman response.

  • ||

    TeeJay, really...really?

  • Joe M||

    Pro top to Johnson and Paul: get into an extend argument about just how small the government should be.

  • A Serious Man||

    Oh boy, Bachmann channeling Jefferson.

  • kilroy||

    But not freedom to travel to Cuba.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Christian faith.

  • toaster oven||

    foreign policy was 3 questions to the loser candidates

  • Jerry||

    Bachmann: "freedom of religion for all ... unless you're Muslim."

  • kilroy||

    About time to go back to Paul or Cain.

  • SIV||

    Boo the troops!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Boom. Take those gay ceps right in your face, Santorum.

  • Apatheist||

    I've changed my mind, Bachmann is the hairdresser from legally blonde.

  • Joe M||

    Bachmann, I'm not a person of faith, so fuck you.

  • Michelle B||

    Your place or mine, big boy?

  • Bradley||

    "Freedom… to express our belief in God."

    Well, that's one way to look at it.

  • ||

    Santorum again? What the FUCK?!!!!

  • Joe M||

    He's top tier, doncha know.

  • Bradley||

    I can at least understand why Perry and Romney got all the questions. Santorum just doesn't compute.

  • SIV||

    Boo the troops!

  • Rick Santorum||

    Don't ask me I won't tell.

  • Bee Tagger||

    A military of priests!

  • Adam||

    Ha. Gays getting killed in Afghanistan is a special privlege. And peopel cheer.

  • Atheist||

    I look forward to freely "expressing my belief in God", Michele.

  • Rick Santorum||

    Teh ghey!! Teh ghey!! KILL!

  • Apatheist||

    Yeah Santorum, that is what you are doing. What a cunt!

  • ||

    ??

  • ||

    Rick Santorum is an epic asshat

  • Joe M||

    Santorum doesn't wanna think about icky sex!

  • A Serious Man||

    Jesus, Fox ignores Paul on foreign policy and instead take him to task on abortion. But at least he's being honest.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Take that, rape baby. Normal baby, you're safe.

  • ||

    Rape babies are worse than anchor babies.

    Way worse.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    No fucking shit.

  • ||

    Ron Paul: Reconciling a personal issue quite well in the land of political pandering.

  • Au H20||

    Santorum is such an asshole.

  • kilroy||

    Paul on people solving their own problems. Novel!

  • ||

    "I've spent a lifetime dealing with life"

    Very Berraesque.

  • ||

    Of course, under DADT homosexuals didn't have to be engaged in sexual activity while serving to get DD'ed, dipshit Santorum. Talking about going to the Poconos with your same sex partner once your tour is up was enough to get das boot.

  • Haunted Taint||

    Hey, at least we discovered a way to make Republicans boo active-duty soldiers.

  • Joe M||

    There you go Paul. Even though I disagree with his pro-life stance, he understands that the government can't fix it either way.

  • Apatheist||

  • Blutarski||

    That's one big fucking beer bong!

  • ||

    The morning after pill is not an abortion pill...

  • SIV||

    Wild cheers for Paul saying abortion is a moral issue. Take that you immoral baby killers!

  • ||

    aslong as the followup principle of not trying to legislate morality is implicitly in the cheer (which it probably isn;t), then sensible reaction.

  • SIV||

    Rand takes quite a different stance on using Federal power to protect life.The old man favors it at the state level.

  • cabinets||

    Rick Perry-- are you not a low rent George Bush clone?

  • Rick Perry||

    I'm at the very least a "rent controlled" George Bush clone!

  • toaster oven||

    a word cloud on healthcare and ROMNEYCARE isn't in the cloud? BULLSHIT

  • Apatheist||

    Aggie yell leaders gargle balls.

  • Herman Cain||

    That other negro in the WH wants to kill me with Obamacare.

  • Joe M||

    Lightning poll: Who do you loathe more, Bret Baier or Chris Wallace? I've been a Wallace hater for years, but Baier is climbing in the standings.

  • ||

    They did totally blow of Paul on Foreign Policy. This is after the web presenters used a graphic showing that Ron Paul got _by far_ the most mentions in submitted Foreign Policy questions.

  • Haunted Taint||

    And leading off Johnson with some shit about Cuba. What could be a less consequential foreign policy issue?

  • I support evil||

    Considering that the crowd at these things has been cheering for executions and letting patients die, I suspect the crowd was cheering for cancer, not Cain.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Pizza causes abnormal cell growth. Let's just get that out in the open.

  • I support evil||

    Considering that the crowd at these things has been cheering for executions and letting patients die, I suspect the crowd was cheering for cancer, not Cain.

  • Apatheist||

    So how many Google advertisements have they managed to fit into this debate?

  • ||

    There will be a mongoloid exception, Ian.

    So, don't worry.

  • Voros McCracken||

    I don't think he's likely to hear that response from one of the candidates.

    Is there some sort of thing where insurance companies aren't allowed to do this themselves at the cost of a small raise in premiums? Why the hell is this an issue?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    KIDS? They're in their 20's!

  • ||

    They're kids at heart. Maybe you could learn something from them, Fist.

  • Newt Gingrich||

    Unless I go to jail for trying to date them, they're not a 'kid.'

  • Joe M||

    Just one, but it's been going for 90 minutes now.

  • toaster oven||

    shout out to my kid's disease

  • kilroy||

    Again Huntsman leads with his family.

  • Adam||

    These are some surprisingly involved questions

  • Rich||

    Unsurprisingly tailored questions.

  • Rich||

    Huntsman comes out for "the lab of democracy".

  • ||

    BRAAAAINS!!!!!!

  • Bee Tagger||

    Shorter Huntsman: smarter, equally as large, government!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Going long. They're going to start leaning on that boink button.

  • Apatheist||

    HPV!

  • Bee Tagger||

    Oooo, great chance for Bachmann to up the crazy quotient even more. I hope she takes it!

  • ||

    LOOK AT IAN... HE GOT DA HPC VAXEEN!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    You've got it in for Ian tonight, dude. Was it his bad mic?

  • ||

    People with too far apart eyes instill fear and loathing in me.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Yes! This means Perry gets twenty minutes to respond to this again.

  • Joe M||

    Do they get response time if the questioners mention them?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Apparently even if someone says something that sounds like their name.

  • kilroy||

    I bought it then but I know better now.

  • Joe M||

    Perry writing a grocery list.

  • cabinets||

    Claw his eyes out!

  • kilroy||

    Yeah. Go after Perry! Pile on.

  • Bee Tagger||

    31? I hope that young child was on her parents' insurance!

  • ||

    split screen with perry and bachman...perry thinking 'I kill you bitch'...or was it 'Did I leave the iron on?"

  • ||

    Gov Perry, made 12 year old texas girls retarded-er! BIG PHARMA!

  • Apatheist||

    Rick Perry thinks its time to slow down for a second and think of the women and children.

  • toaster oven||

    except for the death penalty

  • ||

    That's it. I'm done.

    This thing is such a botch.

    Nothing illuminating. Nothing exciting, just fox news blowing perry and Romney, and trying not to let us see, too clearly anyway, their dirty little Santorum fetish.

    I am going to bed and do something more worthwhile, like get a few more pages into REAMDE.

  • Apatheist||

    Don't forget the google advertisements!

  • ||

    ...As The King of Wishful Thinking...

  • Joe M||

    Ha, Perry had this answer in the holster, obviously.

  • Adam||

    So if I want legalized slavery, I should just send some crying 31 year old woman?

  • ||

    For his sake, I hope Perry was wearing a rubber during the lobbying session.

  • Haunted Taint||

    Perry will "err on the side of life", … well, except if we're talking about executing an innocent man.

  • Jerry||

    Perry and life, except when it comes to the death penalty.

  • ||

    The death penalty is as opt-in as it gets.

  • Joe M||

    Always err on the side of life except when it comes to executions.

  • cabinets||

    Yeah, but death row inmates are clearly not people.

  • I support evil||

    I bet he wont air on the side of life for Muslims.

  • Apatheist||

    I'm sure he'll bomb the crap out of them silly!

  • I support evil||

    He should say that, it would probably get a lot of cheers

  • I support evil||

    He should say that, it would probably get a lot of cheers

  • ||

    OPTIONS!!!!!

  • Rich||

    "Options to give options"?

    Perry seems rattled.

  • Joe M||

    Perry: Look, I asked for money, what more do you want!?

    And, uh, options.

  • Joe M||

    Perry, they've moving to Texas from Mexico.

  • ||

    "People continue to move to the state of Texas..."

    YEAH, MESKINS!! ILLEGAL MESKINS!!

    ANCHORGODDAMNHATEBABIES!!

  • ||

    Perry sounds more articulate when others quote him than when he speaks for himself. Not that being well spoken means anything.

  • Joe M||

    Wow, Romney is still on stage? He'd actually been MIA for quite a while.

  • Adam||

    Romney needs to move both arms. He looks like he's mid-stroke

  • kilroy||

    Romney will waive Obamacare via EO?

  • Bee Tagger||

    Whichever Republican wins this thing, they're going to have one busy-ass first day in office.

  • Rick Perry||

    Day 1:

    1) Inauguration.
    2) Nap Time.

  • toaster oven||

    I'm out. It's been a boring debate.

  • Chupacabra||

    Is Perry drunk?

  • ||

    He does seem very tired all of the sudden. Maybe he needs a 5 hour energy?

  • Rick Perry||

    Seriously. Can you believe folks actually send me campaign contributions? I'm as likely to spend it on the Willy Wonka version of Candyland as I am advertising.

  • Joe M||

    Oh so the response rule makes an amazing comeback.

  • Rick Perry||

    There's no way my IQ is above 90. Not a chance.

    God I'm idjit.

  • ||

    BEFORE!!! FOR!!!!! VERSE!!!1

  • Jerry||

    Versing like Bush.

  • Apatheist||

    Rick Perry is showing off that quick aggie thinkin'

  • Matt||

    Is Perry okay? He looks like he's not feeling well all of a sudden.

  • Haunted Taint||

    What a meltdown. I'm expecting him to exit the stage on stretcher

  • Rick Perry||

    It's frightening. They had fed me mentats for weeks but the doctors said it was starting to be bad for me. So I had to go off...

    ...woo boy.

  • ||

    I wear magic underwear...Motherfucker.

  • Joe M||

    Perry is absolutely incoherent right now.

  • kilroy||

    It's the Rick and Mitt show.

  • Brother Wolf||

    I hope someone does a breakdown of screen time for each candidate. Paul and Johnson get like 10 seconds for perry's minute.

  • Adam||

    10:28 PM: Officially a 2-person debate.

  • Rich||

    As I recall, Ron Paul has written a book or two.

  • kilroy||

    And I'm deaf.

  • ||

    Ask Paul or Johnson about SS, not these backtracking cowards.

  • Joe M||

    Ha, Romney declares that he is absolutely not a flip-flopper!

  • hazeeran||

    Why was Perry talking so slow?

  • Joe M||

    Side effects from his vaccination.

  • kilroy||

    It's after 10pm.

  • not capitol l||

    He was doing an 'Ian' impersonation.

  • ||

    Not just slow. I'm seeing GWB redux. He seems either out of it or really stupid. Might be both.

  • Rick Perry||

    GWB uses all the big words when we speak together. They all have sillybulls in 'em.

  • ||

    stroke?

  • Apatheist||

    Did anyone else get that "think of the children" American Jobs Act commercial?

  • ||

    I was hoping for a marijuana/WoD question for Johnson...

  • Rich||

    I predict he'll get that before the end of the "debate".

  • Adam||

    Read today that at this exact time in 2007, It was Guiliani and Thompson with 20% each, and McCain with 15%. And yet Perry and Romney are it?

  • kilroy||

    At least Johnson got some of his points out there, even if he had to force it.

  • Apatheist||

    I'd to see what Rick Perry is doodling.

  • Haunted Taint||

  • ||

    +1

  • Rick Perry||

    I'll show you myself:

    Rick Perry's doodle

  • Apatheist||

    I like both submissions but I'd like you to collaborate on a combination of the two.

  • Matt||

    30 seconds each, finally Paul and Johnson get to talk.

  • ||

    There are a lot of reasons not to vote for me. There are a lot of reasons not to vote for the others on stage.


    And I will most definitely take you up on that.

  • ||

    You know what America needs? A good bout of rioting. Fur realz.

  • cabinets||

    Nice recycle, Huntsman. We get it, you feel for the unemployed.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    999 is a joke in your town.

  • ||

    PIZZA, PIZZA

    999 bogo on jeero pies!

  • kilroy||

    Cain: Americans have no confidence.

  • ||

    Let's reach for the "Brass Ring of Liberty"!

  • Haunted Taint||

    Reach around and grab liberty by the brass rings.

  • kilroy||

    Johnson gets to think about it and cleanup.

  • Bachmann||

    I will repeal Obamacare the very first day. Pass that Bill! Pass that Bill!

  • ||

    KITCHEN TABLE

    die

  • I support evil||

    I would do it with my 666 plan.

  • johnl||

    Gout may flare if you are taking Uloric. Do not stop taking it. Reminds me of fiscal and financial stimulus. Unemployment may rise if you use deficit spending. Do not stop spending. Side effects can include currency devaluation, rent seeking, anxiety, and commodities inflation.

  • Adam||

    The... the room.. the one in little shacks ...what do you call it? not the foyer....

  • ||

    anteroom?

  • ||

    Patriotism will fix the economy, says mittens.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Romney is right. We should make people in other countries put their hands over their hearts for U.S. national anthem.

  • ||

    These people sound like they're auditioning for the Fuhrer of the fourth reich.

    jesus...

  • ||

    I was just thinking how it feels more like a high school pep rally than a political debate. Cue phony jab at Obama, aaaand wait for standing ovation.

  • ||

    MALAISE!!!!!!

  • ||

    I'll Make heroin legal!!

  • Mitt Romney||

    I actually have no idea, what was the question?

    But it was a great story, right?

  • ||

    Yeah, Paul.

    Now...TITTIES

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    The killer rabbit is attacking all over again!

  • Ron Paul||

    I've been warning about Bubbles since he tried to force me to give him a BJ as a child.

  • Herman Cain||

    No! No, no, not 8,8,8! I said 9. Nobody's comin' up with 8. Who wants 8% taxes? You won't even get the economy goin, not even a mouse on a wheel.

    9's the key number here. Think about it. 9-Elevens. 9 dwarves. 9, man, that's the number. 9 chipmunks twirlin' on a branch, eatin' lots of sunflowers on my uncle's ranch. You know that old children's tale from the sea. It's like you're dreamin' about Gorgonzola cheese when it's clearly Brie time, baby. Step into my office.

  • long dong silver||

    what about 9...inches?

  • ||

    Well, jeeze that makes everything better, Newcular.

  • ||

    THE PEOPLE WILL CREATE THE JOBS, NOT THE JOBS

  • ||

    *not the government. [derp]

  • ||

    If we can create self-replicating jobs we've got it made.

  • ||

    Oh leave Jimmy Carter alone!

  • Rick Santorum||

    We are a great country because God you gave the chance to vote for me.

  • johnl||

    The chat bell is even worse than the door bell. Next debate they are going to use, what a "Daddy" yell?

  • kilroy||

    Shut up Scrotum.

  • Joe M||

    Johnson just won the debate.

  • ||

    Johnson gets the best laugh...secretary of comedy.

  • Bender Bending Rodriguez||

    Gary Johnson with the best line of the evening!

  • hazeeran||

    here here!

  • ||

    Ka-fucking-BOOM.

    Soundbite GEEJAY...

  • Bender Bending Rodriguez||

    Gary Johnson with the best line of the evening!

  • Rick Santorum||

    We have to trust in the American people...

    ...unless they're gay.

  • Cain||

    or moozlims!

  • ||

    Sheez, libertarians and poop jokes.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Phew. I thought Johnson was going to go Berkowitz, with his neighbor's dogs giving him advice.

  • SIV||

    SAM

  • SIV||

    Hey Lucy! Are ya following my tumblr blog?

    It's got all that stuff you say you like on your twitter profile.

  • ||

    I'm done...christ almighty

  • Matt||

    Gary Johnson with the HAYMAKER!

  • ||

    But will it be enough to get him another debate invitation?

  • ||

    GJ got the zinger of the night.

    ...and he followed it up with "cut the CORPORATE income tax"?!?! What about regoolar folks who are NOT corporations?

  • ||

    Romney: Flags! Patriotism! Family Tables!
    Paul: Austrian Business Cycle!
    Newcular Titties: Reagan! And Obama Sucks!
    Others: Reagan! And Obama Sucks!
    Johnson: I made a funny!

  • Apatheist||

  • ||

    Ha! For once Ron Paul has it easy on the choosing a running mate question!

  • Gary Johnson||

    1. Ron Paul took a lie detector test. The lie detector tapped out.
    2. Ron Paul is an element on the periodic table.
    3. Ron Paul could lead a horse to water AND convince it to drink, but he doesn't believe the government has the right to so he refuses.
    4. King Midas shook hands with Ron Paul once. Nothing happened.
    5. Studies by the World Health Organization show that Ron Paul is the leading cause of freedom among men.
    6. Ron Paul wasn't born. He liberated himself from the womb.
    7. The chief export of Ron Paul is liberty.
    8. When fascism goes to sleep at night, it checks under the bed for Ron Paul.
    9. Ron Paul eats Total Gyms for breakfast.
    10.If Ron Paul had lived in Sparta, the movie would have been called "1".
    11.When Chuck Norris gets scared, he goes to Ron Paul.
    12.Ron Paul lost his virginity to Susan B. Anthony.
    13.Ron Paul doesn't cut taxes, He kills them with his bare hands.
    14.Ron Paul delivers babies without his hands. He simply reads them the Bill of Rights and they crawl out in anticipation of freedom.
    15.If you pull Ron Paul's finger, a band will march by playing Yankee Doodle Dandy.

    --SAYO

  • ||

    Ron Paul's calendar goes from April 14 to April 16--no one taxes Ron Paul

  • Rick Perry||

    Michelle because boobies

  • SIV||

    Props to Johnson. He's doing much better than the SC debate.

  • Joe M||

    At least Johnson sends a shout out Paul of course. And we already new Gingrich and Santorum were "buddies".

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Newt Gingrich will be his own veep.

  • Joe M||

    He has enough mass for it.

  • EscapedWestOfTheBigMuddy||

    Important question: did they keep Taft's bathtub?

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    OOOHH! Santorum burn from Gingrich!!

  • ||

    This would be an awesome intro to a tag team match. Gingrich-Santorum vs Paul-Johnson.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Paul pointing out the bronze. Good for him.

  • Joe M||

    Awww, Paul, not cool. You were supposed to love Johnson right back!

  • ||

    He should have at least said he'd consider him. I know he doesn't want Johnson on his turf, but fuck you Ron Paul.

  • ||

    Really, I guess winning the presidency and making politically expedient statements are more important to Ron Paul than having libertarian policies enacted. He looked like a politician where Gary Johnson looked authentic and human.

  • ||

    Nerman Caingrich.

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    Herman Titties.

  • Mendelism||

    Hermucular Titties.

  • ||

    That's miscegenation!

  • Matt||

    Cain on Newt? I thought man on dog was gross, Santorum just shit a brick.

  • Dylboz||

    ^^^ This, +1000.

    And it flew right out, greased up by a frothy mixture... oh, you know!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    PICK JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR VICE PRESIDENT!

  • ||

    JC is always the right answer.

  • Jesus Christ||

    First _son_ of God and now _vice_ President? When do I get top billing?

  • Joe M||

    Does Johnson get a response for being mentioned by Romney???

  • ||

    Technically it was his dogs who got the mention.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Responses are for closers.

  • cabinets||

    They have all proved that they're great at never answering a straight question.

  • alexdroog||

    Brett Baier: Governor Romney, I hate to follow up here, but really I don't. *slurp* *slurp*

  • ||

    GJ asked RP to the prom. RP demurred because he was shampooing his cat.

  • ||

    "What will he find in the basement, Michelle?"

  • Matt||

    "Play the game, everybody play the GAAAAMMMEE...of love"

  • Adam||

    Paul should have just said "it doesn't matter, because they're just going to be running Senate sessions like they're suppposed to be, and nothing more."

  • ||

    This is lame. State a damn answer and stop avoiding the question.

  • ||

    This ^. Really defeats the purpose of the question if everybody refuses to just pick somebody.

  • Joe M||

    Come on, Huntsman, you know you'd pick your fellow Mormon.

  • Colin||

    You're confusing him with Jeff Flake.

  • Joe M||

    Hey Huntsman, didn't the third place guy win last time?

  • Bee Tagger||

    wow, huntsman bombing worse than obamacare over the american economy on those jokes.

  • ||

    Herman's my man?!?!

    RAAAA-CIST!

  • Apatheist||

    Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb!

  • Rich||

    Pleasant dreams, folks!

  • Joe M||

    Okay, I think Johnson and Paul both did great with their extremely limited time. I'm certain they didn't get 22% of the time. Oh and now these fools are going to fellate Romney.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Johnson is jonesing for a toke, and Santorum needs off the stage and away from all the dicklickers.

  • Matt||

    Oh God, not these Romney-worshipping analyst clowns again!

  • Joe M||

    Romney was presidential damnit!

  • ||

    "Nice try."

    Put it on a bumper sticker pronto! That's gold, Jerry, GOLD!

  • Adam||

    HOLY SHIT did Dana Perino get HOTTT

  • johnl||

    And in the 12th, the Angels let Jeffe down.

  • kilroy||

    Later.

  • A Serious Man||

    2 hours just so we can hear the pundits say: Ron Paul is interesting BUT.....(insert putdown)

  • johnl||

    Fab. Fox doesn't know how to play their own video.

  • Colin||

    Paul did very well tonight, at least until the last question. Johnson was solid.

    Bachmann was retch-inducing, like usual.

    I would like to see a steel-cage match between Santorum and that gay marine.

    Everyone else? meh. (though some are more meh than others)

  • Apatheist||

    Yes, I think a "frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter" wrestling match is in order.

  • Jerry||

    Damn, FOX still has these focus groups that are more selected than trial juries.

  • Joe M||

    The online Fox has three college students, two of which are quite attractive.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    "Post-Debate Spin Room"

    Dizzy.

  • Dekedin||

    http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011.....le-debate/

    Holy moly. Paul with a massive lead followed by Johnson. How long until Fox deletes this one?

  • Joe M||

    Libertarians rule the Internet.

  • Mendelism||

    * Please Note: The results of this poll are not scientific.

    No shit?

  • Mickey Hobart||

    Romney attacked a line from the Perry book saying Social Security was forced on the people, right? What, does he know of some secret way to avoid the payroll tax? Pfft!

  • Doug||

    Holy shit...800 comments? Well done, Reason.

    I didn't see the debate so I can only judge by the H&R updates. Based on that, I have visions of the Keystone Cops, Three Stooges, and Marx Brothers dancing in my head. Accurate or not?

  • Joe M||

    Actually, it was practically an orgy, with a lot of agreement that they would all be better than Obama.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    The image of an orgy involving these candidates isn't exactly appealing.

  • Art-P.O.G.||

    Ha ha, good call referring to Perry as Josh Brolin!

  • hmm ||

    TLDR and TBDW (too boring didn't watch)

  • Max||

    Jesus fucking Christ, that was stupid commentary, Matt. Don't quit your day job. Oh, shit! That is your day job!

  • mike||

    reason should co-sponsor a debate. wait no.. no more debates. please!!!

    I think Flavor Flav and PE could do something with Cain's 999 plan

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