Very Grown-Up Wash Post Columnist Dana Milbank Pooh-Poohs Lack of Grown-Ups at GOP Debate

Back when the first GOP wannabe-president debate was announced, Reason pointed to the immediate marginalization of libertarianish candidates such as Rep Ron Paul (R-Texas), despite Dr. No's relatively strong showing in 2008 and his proven ability raise oodles of money, and former two-term Gov. Gary Johnson (R-N.M.), despite the Everest-climbin' triathlete's track record of winning elections in defiance of both his own party's establishment and a two-to-one registration advantage to the Democrats.

Now comes the Washington Post's Dana Milbank, channeling the grumpus spirits of his recently deceased colleague David Broder (whom the Post saw fit to send off with the least artful editorial cartoon since the discovery of the Lascaux cave paintings), inveighs against the lack of "grown-ups" at last night's GOP presidential candidates debate in South Carolina.

Here's Milbank on Paul and Johnson:

Libertarian Rep. Ron Paul explained why heroin and prostitution should be legal and why the Department of Homeland Security should be eliminated....

Former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson argued for eliminating the minimum wage and corporate taxes and for cutting Medicare nearly in half.

Har har har! What zany, immature lads these libertarians be! Here's a fuller context of the Ron Paul's Lou Reed moment (which got a huge response from the crowd):

“Are you suggesting that heroin and prostitution are an exercise of liberty?” [asked moderator Chris Wallace in a follow-up up question]

After tripping up a little, Rep. Paul replied “yes,” then found himself arguing in favor of legalizing heroin, asking, “if we legalize heroin tomorrow, is everyone is going use heroin? How many people here would use heroin if it were legal?” The question was greeted with cheers, to which Wallace replied with a smile, “I never thought heroin would get an applause in South Carolina.”

If Milbank couldn't see any humor or insight in Ron Paul's performance last night - the 12-term congressman laid out full-throated defenses of lifestyle freedom, limited government, and rational approaches to foreign policy for a country currently mired in three wars - well, that's his problem.

And does anyone dast blame Johnson, who called for increasing legal immigration, ending the drug war, and unilateral free trade, for wanting to seriously cut Medicare spending, particularly for wealthy old folks who don't need the extra cash? Isn't tackling "entitlement reform" supposed to be a sign that you're wearing the big-boy pants in the scrum of national politics? 

Not this time, says Milbank, who breathes a sigh of relief that the GOP has no serious contender to President Obama and that the AP and Reuters didn't even cover the debate (ignore this and that).

"We’ll just have to let the kids fight it out on the playground," Milbank sighs, with the exasperated resignation of a man who has worn one too many pith helmets in the pursuit of serious journalism and who has tuckered himself out with all that thoughtful thinking about "the integrative complexity" of an existing president who has visited all 57 states.

The full Milbank is here.

Previous Milbank sighting here.

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    I said this on the other thread. Paul reminded me of Alan Keyes last night. When Keyes used to do Presidential debates, he was the only one who ever actually thought about and gave real answers to questions. As a result, I always found myself thinking "God everyone but him is a moron", even thought I didn't always agree with or even support Keyes.

    Paul gives real answers. And people like Milbank have lost the ability to do that. They only think in sound bites. They are in capable of intellectual honesty or introspection. So, all they can do when confronted with someone capable of both is laugh and act like that person is crazy.

  • alan||

    Some kids grow up and sell their souls to make records, and others are so pathetically dorky they sell them to become ink stain wretches for Wa Po. Thus Milbank.

  • ||

    The game has become all. Truth and what's actually good for the individuals that make up this country is totally irrelevant. Look how much the media talks about electability, gravitas, or some other attribute that has nothing to do with substance. Pathetic.

  • ||

    Yes. That is all they can think about. You would think that Milbank, as a self styled intellectual, would think and write about whether Paul has a point or not. But he can't do that. So instead he just issues forth snark.

  • Barely Suppressed Rage||

    I always felt the same way about Alan Keyes. He always was just a little bit too enraged and animated, but for the most part, I liked what he said and that he wasn't bashful about saying it. Even better, from the perspective of dealing with the fucking race-bating left (but I repeat myself), is the fact that he is a black man who doesn't buy their bullshit.

  • ||

    He got crazier over time, but at least you knew where he stood. Bullshit has become such a standard that almost no substance is delivered to the public. And what substance there is. . .usually lies.

    This reminds me of the word analysis done of a conversation with an imperial representative in Foundation--result: null content.

  • Ice Nine||

    Is it just me or should a guy who dresses up like Hugh Hefner be a little careful about admonishing others to act like grown-ups?

  • ||

    But he is cool. He went to Yale. That means he is smarter than everyone else and it is okay for him to act like a moron and spout nonsense.

  • Harvard Grad||

    He went to Yale. That means he is smarter than everyone else a backwoods hick and it is okay for him to act like a moron and spout nonsense.

    FTFY

  • ||

    He better not show up at a tractor pull in that pith helmet.

  • ||

    I just thought of a great idea. Make "Harvard Tractor Pull Team" t-shirts. You could sell it as ironic fashion to hipsters and make a fortune.

  • Berkeley Grad||

    While you effete snobs are rowing your boats around the Charles river, we Berkeley grads are busy building the future in Silicon Valley.

  • Patrick Bateman||

    He went to Yale. That means he is smarter than everyone else and it is okay for him to act like a moron and spout nonsense. probably a closet homosexual who did a lot of cocaine.

  • SIV||

    KM-W went to Yale.

  • ||

    WHOOSH!!!!!

  • Barely Suppressed Rage||

    Hey, it's not like he allowed himself to be photographed wearing a big diaper and holding a stuffed animal while wearing bunny ears or anything.

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    Milbank's just another overgrown nerd who has a far greater sense of self-regard than reality warrants. If he wasn't in political punditry, his life would be defined by how many bowls of Capn Crunch he consumed and the number of bottles of Mtn Dew he guzzled that day, all the while raging against the "stupid jocks" that kept him from banging the hot cheerleader who treated him like the beta twink that he is.

  • Lord Googoo||

    MilbankMNG's just another overgrown nerd who has a far greater sense of self-regard than reality warrants.

  • marlok||

    Hey now. I like MNG, even when he flips into partisan mode. Don't lump him in with a self-important concern troll like Milbank who thinks that stating his opponents' positions is the same as attacking them.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Statists find no humor in anti-statist assertions. People making decisions for themselves is like a baby with a nailgun. No matter how humorous the setup, the possible punchline is just too dangerous to find funny.

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  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I admit I laughed. Who uses a framing nailer to repair a bench?

  • ||

    Stupid kid. His parents should have to give him up to foster care for not buying him a brad nailer.

  • Mr Whipple©®™||

    What? No safety glasses? That's a violation. One more slip up like that, and it's back to the Hall for you, pal.

  • ||

    "Baby with a nail gun" was good, but I'm voting for "dog on fire."

  • ||

    Am I copping out to how old I am by admitting that my first thought upon seeing that first photo of Milbank made me think, "Verrrrry interestingk!

  • ||

    But Stupid.

  • fish||

    Certainly a reasonable thought....anybody else expect to see bubbles coming out of the pipe in the 3rd photo?

  • Barely Suppressed Rage||

    That was my first thought, and I assumed that's exactly what he was imitating.

  • fish||

    Good thing that the adults are giving the next election serious consideration.

  • rather||

    Nick, you forgot to call him dirty whore

  • Tim||

    Grumpus was much more tactful.

  • Neu Mejican||

    While Milbank is an idiot, I didn't see anyone in that debate that was easy to take seriously as a national candidate.

    Johnson, I think, will end up doing better than Paul. He keeps things simple. It worked well for him in NM. And his record in NM hits the right notes for the Tea Party folks. But I think his amazing lack of charisma is a pretty big liability in a national election.

    The rest on the stage just made my skin crawl.

  • Neu Mejican||

    And, for the record, Johnson would be a terrible president. Although he makes a great character on Parks & Recreation.

  • ||

    Why would Johnson be a terrible President? Because he is boring? The last boring president we had was the first George Bush. That didn't work out so bad.

    I don't agree with Johnson on everything. But I don't see how you could say he would be a terrible President. I mean really what is he going to do? Pass a horrible healthcare bill over the objection of most of the country and run up more debt in two years than every other President combined? Boy that would be terrible.

  • Cyto||

    Johnson would be great because he loves that veto pen. He could be going for the American Veto Record. With 750 under his belt as governor, He just needs to average 75 vetoes per year to reach 1050 career vetoes and a spot in the hall of fame.

  • ||

    If you think the President's role is to be a charismatic guy who "runs the country" or "manages the economy", then you'd probably think Johnson would be terrible. If you consider the President the head of the executive branch of the federal government, bound to the role the Constitution grants, then yeah, you might be down on Johnson.

  • Neu Mejican||

    If you think the President's role is to be a charismatic guy who "runs the country" or "manages the economy", then you'd probably think Johnson would be terrible. If you consider the President the head of the executive branch of the federal government, bound to the role the Constitution grants, then yeah, you might be down on Johnson.

    I think the president should be a boring bureaucrat who pays attention to the details. Johnson doesn't.

  • Dave||

    So you would prefer somebody who's more interested in meddling in the "details" of people's lives rather seeing the bigger picture - rather than respecting individual freedom and constitutional limits on government.

  • The Gobbler||

    Good executives do not " pay attention to the details". That's the role of their direct reports.

  • ||

    "I think the president should be a boring bureaucrat who pays attention to the details. Johnson doesn't."

    And I think you are an idiot who doesn't know anything about what it takes to be a President. The President's job is too big for the details. Successful Presidents on both sides understood the big issues and knew how to convince the public to come to their side. The worst Presidents have been the ones who got bogged down in the details thinking they were brilliant enough to run everything, Jimmy Carter, Hoover, and Wilson being the best examples. All three were intelligent boring, into the details exectutives you describe. And all three were complete disasters as Presidents.

  • Fearsome Tycoon||

    The last time we had a boring President who paid attention to details was a guy named Johnson, also from the American Southwest, and look how that turned out.

  • Kristen||

    You like micromanagers? You obvious never worked for one. Or maybe you are one.

  • Neu Mejican||

    Dave|5.6.11 @ 11:02AM|#

    So you would prefer somebody who's more interested in meddling in the "details" of people's lives rather seeing the bigger picture - rather than respecting individual freedom and constitutional limits on government.

    The Gobbler|5.6.11 @ 11:18AM|#

    Good executives do not " pay attention to the details". That's the role of their direct reports.

    Fearsome Tycoon|5.6.11 @ 11:24AM|#

    The last time we had a boring President who paid attention to details was a guy named Johnson, also from the American Southwest, and look how that turned out

    Don't confuse "paying attention to the details" with "micromanager" as they are not the same concept. A good manager pays attention to the details that he needs to pay attention to and monitors the results of those working under him.

    John|5.6.11 @ 11:19AM|#

    "I think the president should be a boring bureaucrat who pays attention to the details. Johnson doesn't."

    And I think you are an idiot who doesn't know anything about what it takes to be a President. The President's job is too big for the details. Successful Presidents on both sides understood the big issues and knew how to convince the public to come to their side. The worst Presidents have been the ones who got bogged down in the details thinking they were brilliant enough to run everything, Jimmy Carter, Hoover, and Wilson being the best examples. All three were intelligent boring, into the details exectutives you describe. And all three were complete disasters as Presidents.

    Again, it matters which details they are paying attention to. You mention some of the details that a good president would need to pay attention to that Johnson would not pay attention to.

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    I briefly met Gary Johnson way back when he was governor and I still lived in the States, when a friend graduated from med school. The guy is sharp as a whip and has no problem with details.

  • Neu Mejican||

    I have met him. He is not dumb. Never said he was. I even said I thought he was the best of those on stage. But I just don't see his lackadaisical management style and lack of follow through cutting it as president.

  • Neu Mejican||

    His management style (evidenced by his two terms in NM) doesn't translate onto the bigger stage.

    And GB1? Really?

  • Dave||

    So... Intelligent management based on reason and advocating fiscal responsibility, individual freedom and appropriately constitutionally limited government doesn't translate onto the bigger stage?

    If you're right, we're seriously fucked. Unfortunately, you may be right.

  • Neu Mejican||

    Intelligent management based on reason and advocating fiscal responsibility, individual freedom and appropriately constitutionally limited government doesn't translate onto the bigger stage?

    I don't think that is an accurate characterization of his management style. Those are his political positions. Look into his poorly executed attempt to privatize NM prisons. Not an example of intelligent management.

  • Dave||

    So instead of somebody who tries to come up with creative solutions, you would prefer a "boring bureaucrat" who lets the government go bankrupt while stomping on civil liberties.

    Unfortunately you are typical of the average American voter who fails to appreciate true intelligence in a candidate and would rather vote for an "intelligent" candidate like Obama who can't think his way out of a paper bag.

  • Neu Mejican||

    So instead of somebody who tries to come up with creative solutions, you would prefer a "boring bureaucrat" who lets the government go bankrupt while stomping on civil liberties.

    No. I prefer one who has the skills to implement his creative solutions.

    Unfortunately you are typical of the average American voter who fails to appreciate true intelligence in a candidate and would rather vote for an "intelligent" candidate like Obama who can't think his way out of a paper bag.

    You are arguing with someone else here. What makes you think I am big Obama supporter?

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    GB1 cleaned up the S&L mess properly. As opposed to TARP he sold the assets, closed the banks, wrote off the debts and threw the crooks in jail. He passed deficit and spending reform that set the stage for the Clinton surpluses. And he fought and won a war in the Middle East without getting involved in nation building.

    Yeah, I would say he had a pretty successful Presidency. And you would to if you were honest instead of a liberal hack who can never admit anyone on the other team does anything right.

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    Consider the current fashion of trying to label your opponent as not "grown up", in light of GB1. He was called a wimp, considered to be in Reagan's shadow, not really remembered much, BUT he was a grown up, a man in the sense that I was taught growing up in the 50' and 60's. He may have been the last real adult we've had as President.

  • Neu Mejican||

    John|5.6.11 @ 11:15AM|#

    GB1 cleaned up the S&L mess properly. As opposed to TARP he sold the assets, closed the banks, wrote off the debts and threw the crooks in jail. He passed deficit and spending reform that set the stage for the Clinton surpluses. And he fought and won a war in the Middle East without getting involved in nation building.

    Interesting view. Not sure I agree with it. Do you also consider Panama a military success?

    Yeah, I would say he had a pretty successful Presidency. And you would to if you were honest instead of a liberal hack who can never admit anyone on the other team does anything right.

    Did Mr. Republican just accuse me of being on THE OTHER TEAM? The lack of self-reflection is impressive. I have never cast a party line vote in any election since I was old enough to vote. Last election I split between R/D about 50-50 (with some noise from the 2 "third party" candidates that got my vote).

  • Neu Mejican||

    Dang tags.

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    Considering that Pannama went from having a narco thug dictatorship to what appears to be a stable democracy to this day twenty two years later, I would say it was a success. So add another success to Bush I. The economy was growing in the second half of 1992. The Clinton Boom was to a large measure the result of the unpopular but necessary measures Bush I took in response to the banking crisis.

  • Neu Mejican||

    Considering that Pannama went from having a narco thug dictatorship to what appears to be a stable democracy to this day twenty two years later, I would say it was a success. So add another success to Bush I. The economy was growing in the second half of 1992. The Clinton Boom was to a large measure the result of the unpopular but necessary measures Bush I took in response to the banking crisis.

    GO TEAM.

    So to stay with military "successes," do you consider both Panama and Iraq military successes for Bush I? They are an interesting contrast in results.

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    What the fuck does Go Team supposed to mean. God forbid you come back and argue any facts. If you don't think Panama was a success, then say why. I told you why it was. If you don't agree, give a reason. To just say "go team", just proves you are fuck and troll. You are worse than MNG. When you want to have a disgussion come back and talk to me.

  • Neu Mejican||

    Yes John, I am the one who can't have a disgussion (sic). I mean you politely responded to my "GB1? Really?" with "And you would to if you were honest instead of a liberal hack who can never admit anyone on the other team does anything right."

    Is this another example of those "subtle arguments" you make?

    I think the loss of civilian life in Panama was not justified by the goals. The legal justification for the action is also constitutionally dubious at best. And Bush I's inability to deal with the aftermath of the war in Iraq set the stage for the larger fiasco that it became.

  • Cytotoxic||

    Retarded as NJ is, I can't say I'm a fan of GB1. Not only was the first Gulf War unnecessary, worse he let the tyrant stay in power, and that made Gulf War II inevitable.

  • Mr Whipple©®™||

    His management style (evidenced by his two terms in NM) doesn't translate onto [into]the[a] bigger stage [state].

  • Mr Whipple©®™||

    Clarification:

    state = government

    I think I fucked that up. Where's Mr FTFY when ya need him?

  • Neu Mejican||

    FWIW, I think "state" works fine. No need for clarification.

  • ||

    I call bs, John. You can't possibly know your own thoughts or feelings on a subject. I think you should just stop posting until MNG gets here to tell you what you think, feel, and remember.

  • Lord Googoo||

    I must admit that the downside of having blacklisted MNG is that I no longer have any idea what John thinks, feels, or remembers.

  • ||

    That is okay neither do I.

  • WTF||

    Minge will be along to tell you any minute now.

  • ||

    He'll lick his wounds and slink back on some thread around 2pm EST.

  • Lord Googoo||

    Not with Reasonable's MNG blocker turned on.

  • WTF||

    I don't know LG - you're missing some pretty funny shit watching MNG fail.

  • Realist||

    "And, for the record, Johnson would be a terrible president."
    As opposed to the current dickwad?

  • Neu Mejican||

    He would be bad in different ways, sure, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't be terrible.

  • ||

    He would be bad in different ways that you seem to be unable to describe.

  • ||

    He fucked up New Mexico with all those thingys he refused to sign from the legislature and stuff.

  • Neu Mejican||

    He fucked up New Mexico with all those thingys he refused to sign from the legislature and stuff.

    I had more of a problem with the things he tried to do than the things he tried to prevent. He wasn't the worst NM governor, but he was far from the best...and believe me that is a very low bar.

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    You had more of a problem with the things he tried to do that you still haven't listed with any specificity.

    GO TEAM!!

  • Neu Mejican||

    you still haven't listed with any specificity.

    I can't help it if you don't pay attention.

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    I don't have to believe you, I was born and raised in NM. Who are these best governers you speak of?

  • Neu Mejican||

    As a New Mexican you should know that there are no "best" governors in recent NM history...only more or less horrible ones.

  • Dave||

    Amazing lack of charisma?

    I just recently watched a Johnson interview for the first time and I would have to seriously disagree.

    Johnson is brilliant and very likable - that equals charisma in my book. If the American electorate wasn't largely comprised of imbeciles, he would be our next President.

  • Shrike/Tony/Max||

    I didn't see anyone in that debate that was easy to take seriously as a national candidate.

    Leftist finds libertarian candidates, one who is polling just under Obama in CNN poll and another who is a former two term Governor who was elected in a blue state, unserious.

    I am Jack's total lack of surprise.

    Note: rather then using the fight club quote i thought about using the new 4chan internet meme "Not a fuck was given today"...but was unsure if the syntax would have worked.

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    Shrike/Tony/Max|5.6.11 @ 5:11PM|#

    Yeah that was me =P

  • R||

    Isn't it "And not a single fuck was given that day"?

  • Ron Swanson||

    I am officially throwing my hat into the ring. Swanson 2012.

  • ||

    Move over, Swanson. I'm running, too.

    Sloopy2012! No speechwriters for me, either. I'll hire a team of limerick-writers and will only speak publicly once a year at the SOTU, and they will all be in couplet.

  • Cyto||

    I'll do you one better. No speeches, SOTU via SMS text. And get ready for a flood of drug offenders and small-time gambling convicts out on the streets. POTUS with the power to pardon! Suck it, bee-atches!

    And now that we've taken the Seals of the leash... well, let's just say that Clarance Thomas might be looking good in that chief justice chair...

    And screw Camp David. We're taking this show on the road... Panama City Florida! POTUS on the Redneck Riviera! Top that, Clinton! Yeah, who's the biggest redneck in the White House now?

    The only down side is that there's no way that my wife is going to let me go for my plan to out-Kennedy JFK. Sorry ladies...

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    My first act in office would be to erect an above-ground pool on the ellipse. Second, recommission the presidential limo to NASCAR. Third, free-range goats to mow the WH lawn.

    Top that.

  • Brett L||

    Joe Biden's Trans Am already beat you.

  • Sudden||

    I love that this has turned into a reality show version of President Redneck.

    I would just disband the govt entirely.

  • Cyto||

    Actually, that's a plank in my platform. Zero line budgeting. We start over from zero on day one and you gotta justify everything. We pass each spending measure one at a time.

    No way in hell you can spend even one trillion dollars that way. I'll throttle the beast by simply drowning it in paperwork.

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  • Otto||

    This fits with my experience. I've met a lot of liberals who were for "people" in some generic sense, but couldn't stand most of them in real life. I suspect they want to get government to do their charity because they can't be bothered, and also because they think everyone is as misanthropic as themselves.

  • ||

    There is a great scene in the Solznitzen book Cancer Ward. It describes how a higher level Communist loves "the people" in the abstract but hates the actual people he sees. It describes the modern leftist perfectly.

  • fish||

    Wait....Tony......he was in a Solznitzen book? I had no idea.

  • ||

    He wasn't writing that piece for the average voter. He wrote it for the echo chamber....and they loved it.

  • Tim||

    Libertarians are nuts: it's THE narrative.

  • Joe M||

    Pretty much has been for forty years.

  • ||

    Cutting Medicare is not a position a grown-up could possibly hold. Changing nothing and letting the government go bankrupt, on the other hand, is very sophisticated.

  • Cyto||

    I note that AP and Reuters declined to cover the GOP debate because FOX placed restrictions on still photography during the debate. This only days after the President's address, which we just learned they "reenacted" for photo-journalists - no coverage being allowed during the address.

  • Joe M||

    Fox News coming up with those new rules was just another angle for marginalizing the participants.

  • ola||

    according to Bret Baier last night, the rules you reference are no different than previous fox news debates.

  • Otto||

    "You want freedom? You can't handle the freedom!"

  • ||

    I'm really not trying to be a dick, I swear:

    I always assumed Dana Milbank was a woman.

  • ||

    I'm not sure you're wrong.

  • Tim||

    Up until that night at Motel 6. No one blames you, you were drunk.

  • Realist||

    "I always assumed Dana Milbank was a woman."
    Worse....he is a male without balls!

  • Lord Googoo||

    We should hook him up with OO.

  • Airhead Anti-Defamation League||

    Take your TEAM MALE / TEAM FEMALE divisionarianism elsewhere, cromag.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I'm really not trying to be a dick, I swear

    Things a dick would say.

  • proegg antichicken||

    So it's like "I'm not racist but,"

  • Lord Googoo||

    no homo

  • ||

    She is not?

  • ||

    Never mind that; what kind of dress did Dana Milbank wear to the Royal Wedding teevee party?

  • ||

    Never mind that; what kind of Hat did she wear ?

  • Adam Worth||

    who wears a pith helmet with an overcoat? is he Sherlock Holmes or H M Stanley?

  • Tim||

    Team Red also does it's duty:

    "Tim Pawlenty is a very serious and compelling candidate."

    "Rick Santorum will command serious voter interest..."

    "Gary Johnson's libertarian-isolationist views strike me as foolish and dangerous."

    "Ron Paul was Ron Paul: In his mind, answers to all questions are always the same: Take government out of the equation and all will be well."

    http://spectator.org/blog/2011.....ee-welterw

  • ||

    "Ron Paul Generic Establishment Candidate was Ron Paul Generic Establishment Candidate: In his mind, answers to all questions are always the same: Take Put government out of the equation in control and all will be well."

  • Barely Suppressed Rage||

    You forgot one extra edit:

    "Put the right government in control and all will be well."

    The whole mantra of both Red and Blue teams is "the current people are evil, awful, baby eating mother killers. If only you would let US run the government (and your lives), you'll know true happiness forever!"

  • Robert||

    No, I don't think they really say or think that. They accept the amount of statism (-ism in the sense of condition) we have out of inertia; it doesn't figure too strongly in their figuring, and they're not statists in the ideologic sense. It's not within the realm of most people's thinking -- anywhere or any time, rank and file or leadership -- to overhaul the vehicle rather than change the driver.

  • Nipplemancer||

    the comments are kind of amusing this one is my favorite though:
    Occam's Tool| 5.6.11 @ 10:48AM

    Johnson does Marijuana. LOTS of marijuana. I worked as a physician in New Mexico for a year. If you care about your health care, and don't want armed lunatics killing little girls on your streets, don't vote for Johnson.

  • Montani Semper Liberi||

    I liked this one.

    feel free to name call me. But please tell me where Dr. Paul's voting record on non-tax/spending issues differs in the slightest from Dennis Kucinich. That's all. Please do, without quoting Ronald Reagan from 1976.

    Tell me how Ron Paul is different from Kucinich, but you can't mention any of the policy areas where they are different.

  • ||

    Ron Paul is far taller.

  • ||

    That's awesome.

  • ||

    I worked as a physician in New Mexico for a year. If you care about your health care, and don't want armed lunatics killing little girls on your streets, don't vote for Johnson.

    Given your tendency to act out your bizarre fantasy life, I'm not surprised you couldn't hold down a job for more than a year.

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    +1000

  • Alan Vanneman||

    I care about my health care, but I do want armed lunatics killing little girls on my street. I guess I'm screwed.

  • Robert||

    I strongly suspect that comment at the Spectator to be sarcastic, especially considering its writer supplied no details about what he meant.

  • Nipplemancer||

    reading his other comments I highly doubt any sarcasm in it.

  • Realist||

    The fact that Dana Milbank supports the sack of shit with big ears, tells you all you need to know about his grown-upness.

  • Max||

    Christ, those libertarian glasses really distort reality, don't they? How you dimwit can talk yourself into the ideas that you team of wackos aren't taken seriously because of some failure on everybody else's part is astounding. Look at Ron fucking Paul and check out a picture of Grandpa in "Texas Chainsaw Massacre." Trust me, that particular look coupled with the gold standard crap is not a winning formula. And that old fuck is the best of the lot! Gillespie wants donations, but the rest of can't be that stupid. Take off the glasses!

  • ||

    who let the crazy uncle out of the garage?

  • Tim||

    Max, the French called, they need Americans to go fight in Libya. I told them you were down with that. When can you chip out?

  • Cartman||

    Stop it! No, Uncle Max! No!

  • Max||

    Max has made his last post|11.17.10 @ 7:20PM|#
    Max|6.24.10 @ 3:29PM|#

    Go suck ron puals dick, morons. You peeple are fucking retarded. I`m done coming to this wingnut sight. this is my last post.

  • Barely Suppressed Rage||

    I`m done coming to this wingnut sight. this is my last post.

    Oh please, please, please, let this be true...

    BTW, you fucking dimwit dipshit, it's "site", not "sight." Fucking moron.

  • ||

    Go suck ron puals dick, morons. You peeple are fucking retarded. I`m done coming to this wingnut sight. this is my last post.

    joe use to fill in the email address field when he posted. In most cases one could identify weather it was a troll of if it was really him. poeple also tended to give him a a small amount of respect and consideration.

    perhaps Max you should set up a dummy email account for the email field so separating what you write from what the trolls write would help you control your message.

  • fish||

    Your "Shrike" is showing......

  • Joe M||

    So it's settled: Max agrees Ron Paul is the best GOP candidate.

  • ||

    Take off the glasses!

    That way, you won't know who the alien overlords are, and life will be much, much simpler.

  • Max||

    No, stupid, the alien overlords are in the glasses.

  • skr||

    Movie reference fail

  • ||

    [Slugs P Brooks and enters into the longest fistfight in blogging history.]

  • Brett L||

    You'll have no reason to kick ass and chew bubble gum, though.

  • ..||

    Everybody knows the contacts were better anyway. Same effect without the damn headaches.

  • Colin||

    Dana Milbank, Paul Krugman, Thomas Friedman . . . all long-hanging fruit.

    Pick on someone your own size, Reason.

  • Max||

    Are you suggesting Reason go after the Natural Law party?

  • Max||

    Max has made his last post|11.17.10 @ 7:20PM|#
    Max|6.24.10 @ 3:29PM|#

    Go suck ron puals dick, morons. You peeple are fucking retarded. I`m done coming to this wingnut sight. this is my last post.

  • Maxie Confusion spoofer||

    raun Poueloz koch is making my brain fuzzy.

  • ||

    why the Department of Homeland Security should be eliminated....

    I suspect Milbank hugged his teddy bear tighter than usual at this ghastly notion.

  • ||

    OK, you have to admit dude that is some pretty funyn stuff. Wow.

    www.anon-toolz.at.tc

  • Sudden||

    Sadly Anon-Bot again makes more sense than the brightest kommentariat of the left that WaPo has to offer.

  • ||

    If you care about your health care, and don't want armed lunatics killing little girls on your streets, don't vote for Johnson.

    Gary Johnson is Barack Obama?

  • ||

    When I think of armed lunatics killing little girls, the first thing that comes to mind is Lon Horiuchi.

    The second thing that comes to mind is Waco.

  • WTF||

    When I think of armed lunatics killing little girls, the first thing that comes to mind is Lon Horiuchi.

    Why do you hate our Heroes in Uniform?

  • Fearsome Tycoon||

    So the only "adult" position now is what, socialism? Letting America go into bankruptcy? Hyperinflation? I thought living outside of your means and pretending money doesn't matter was what teenagers did.

  • Kristen||

    This pussified wonkishness Milbank represents, my friends, makes up the majority of the DC dating pool.

  • ||

    My friend and I go to lunch one weekend a month down on Capitol Hill when we drill. We play a game of who can spot the most couples made up of an attractive woman and an asexual or gay looking guy. It nornally takes at least 10 to win the game over a single lunch hour. DC is full of frustraited attractive young women with wussified metrosexual boyfriends.

  • Kristen||

    I'm a frustrated woman because I refuse to date those metrosexual big-haired douchebags. I've had to learn to be a sexual camel, like a female George Costanza.

  • ||

    I know a couple of single women who have met decent no metro sexual guys in DC. But it seems hard.

  • ||

    According to MNG, you don't exist, Kristen. Problem solved!

  • Kristen||

    Ain't dat da troof!

  • Devil Inchoate||

    You should never go full Milbank.

  • Kristen||

    I'm dating a tatted-up rigger, so yeah, there are real men out and about, but if I had lived in, say, Montana for the last 20 years instead of DC, I'd have a lot more notches on my bedpost.

  • WTF||

    I'm dating a tatted-up rigger

    RACIST!!

  • The Gobbler||

    We are but meat to her. A mere commodity.

  • ||

    I'm OK with being meat.

  • Kristen||

    I prefer "garbage-taking-out meat". Y'all are good for more than just one thing, ya know.

  • CrackertyAssCracker||

    What is a "rigger" ?

  • ||

    Hmmmmmmmmmm....

  • JoJo Zeke||

    I'm dating a tatted-up rigger

    I'm certain you meant to type "regro."

  • WTF||

    Riggah please

  • Warty||

    Person of Rolor.

  • ||

    Ruh-ro !

  • Kristen||

    Yeah, yeah, there's all kinds of "riggah pleeze" jokes amongst themselves.

    +1 for "regro", though

  • Robert||

    "Libertarianish"? Talk about marginaliz'n!

  • ||

    I am for Herman Cain! He answers questions in a direct, simple manner. He understands how to solve problems - by DEFINING the problem, determining ways to solve it, seeking experts, and then FIXING it. And he is the only true outsider. He is a common person, and will go far I think. The people that I watched this debate with felt the same way as most other groups did - Herman Cain WON!!! Herman Cain 2012!

  • proegg antichicken||

    grow up

  • Joe M||

    Perhaps he could get together a group of experts and come up with a five year plan for America.

  • T||

    Then why can't the chain he used to run make a decent slice of pizza? You'd think that was a little easier than running the country, and he couldn't pull that off.

  • Warty||

    But was the crust thick or thin?

  • ||

    [makes mad dash for the door]

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