How'd That Work Out for Ya, Obama Voters?

Here's what the president said the last time he announced he was running:

All of us know what those challenges are today - a war with no end, a dependence on oil that threatens our future, schools where too many children aren't learning, and families struggling paycheck to paycheck despite working as hard as they can. We know the challenges. We've heard them. We've talked about them for years.

What's stopped us from meeting these challenges is not the absence of sound policies and sensible plans. What's stopped us is the failure of leadership, the smallness of our politics - the ease with which we're distracted by the petty and trivial, our chronic avoidance of tough decisions, our preference for scoring cheap political points instead of rolling up our sleeves and building a working consensus to tackle big problems.

For the last six years we've been told that our mounting debts don't matter, we've been told that the anxiety Americans feel about rising health care costs and stagnant wages are an illusion, we've been told that climate change is a hoax, and that tough talk and an ill-conceived war can replace diplomacy, and strategy, and foresight. [...]

Today we grieve for the families who have lost loved ones, the hearts that have been broken, and the young lives that could have been. America, it's time to start bringing our troops home. It's time to admit that no amount of American lives can resolve the political disagreement that lies at the heart of someone else's civil war.

I am so relieved we are no longer fighting someone else's civil war, mainlining foreign oil, misundereducating or students, pumping carbon into the air, and worrying about paychecks!

That four-year-old speech is also striking for its, well, audacity. Typical of a politician running for president, I know, but still kind of breathtaking:

I recognize there is a certain presumptuousness - a certain audacity - to this announcement. I know I haven't spent a lot of time learning the ways of Washington. But I've been there long enough to know that the ways of Washington must change. [...]

This campaign must be the occasion, the vehicle, of your hopes, and your dreams. [...]

That's why I'm in this race.

Not just to hold an office, but to gather with you to transform a nation. [...]

I want us to take up the unfinished business of perfecting our union, and building a better America.

And if you will join me in this improbable quest, if you feel destiny calling, and see as I see, a future of endless possibility stretching before us; if you sense, as I sense, that the time is now to shake off our slumber, and slough off our fear, and make good on the debt we owe past and future generations, then I'm ready to take up the cause, and march with you, and work with you. Together, starting today, let us finish the work that needs to be done, and usher in a new birth of freedom on this Earth.

Nick Gillespie on the announcement from earlier this morning. In November 2010, Reason caught up with libertarians who voted for Obama.

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  • ||

    For all you schmucks that fell for that hope and change jazz:

    http://nelsonhaha.com/

  • ||

    Nelson 2012!

  • Corporate Drone||

    Don't blame me, I voted for Kang.

  • rather ||

    They all make that same speech-big deal

  • Corporate Drone||

    Do they now? What do you suppose it will look like when we compare his campaign promises to his first 2 years in office? Care to speculate?

  • knee jerk rather||

    Obstructionist Racist Rethuglicans!!1!ONE!!!

  • knee jerk Libertarian||

    Taxes are all theft
    cops are all bad
    men are all victims
    women are all whores

  • Old Mexican||

    Madam, two of you could not make even one halfwit.

    By the way, it is not "Taxes are all theft," which is grammatically incorrect just for starters, as "taxes" is a noun and "theft" is a verb... It should be "Taxation IS theft."

  • rather||

    Please, don't tempt me to reprint your egregious errors.

  • rather||

    starting here
    Madam, two of you could not make even one halfwit.

    'Make' is apposite for something that does not exist independently. In the case of unique individuals, the term amalgamate would havebeen linguistically acceptable

  • Hank||

    Ah, I see today is a "delusional superiority" rather day. "Batshit insane" must be tomorrow. Can't wait.

  • rather||

    Hank, can't you give a girl a break?

  • Old Mexican||

    Re: rather,

    'Make' is apposite for something that does not exist independently.


    You're an idiot, rather. Go back to school, please.

  • rather||

    lol. I can't wait to share this one-you so funny!

  • Old Mexican||

    Yeah. You're no peach yourself. "Make" means "to create something out of other stuff," "to transform into something else" AND ALSO means "The structure or composition of something"

    So "two of you don't make even one halfwit" is grammatically - and factually - correct.

  • Old Mexican||

    I was wrong, rather - "theft" is a noun. I am non-lefty enough to admit I was wrong about "theft" being a noun.

  • not anonypussy||

    I sympathize with you, OM, but I don't think theft is a verb any more than thievery is. If a particle like a or the can be placed in front of it, I believe that makes it a noun ... or maybe a gerund or something. I'm sure some grammar nazi will come along to enlighten us all though.

  • Old Mexican||

    You and rather are right, "theft" is a noun. I am non-lefty enough to admit I was wrong.

  • Old Mexican||

    By the way, rather is incorrect about the word "make."

  • prolefeed||

    I like "Taxes are all theft", in a "All your bases are belong to us" kind of way.

  • rather||

    Take your punishment like a man little boy-read and comment on my blog!

  • rather ||

    Which president fulfilled all his campaign promises?

    He only had 5 promises: to acquire California from Mexico, settle the Oregon dispute, to lower the tariff, to create a sub-treasury, and to not run for a second term.

    Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Whic.....z1IYxfeLNJ

  • Kristen||

    Mom! But all the other kids are doin it!1!!eleven!1

  • ||

    You know, They Might Be Giants had an excellent song about him, with his name as the title!

  • Irresponsible Hater||

    ouch

  • Rote Leftist Response||

    "... but... but... but: PALIN!!!!!11!"

  • Tolly||

    Exactly. The left's response will be to just mock anybody on the right for being a mouth-breathing Bible thumper who makes a few gaffes.

    The sad thing is that they'll probably be right. But they're happy to have a messianic CIC who is smart and charming but just repeats the same disastrous policies of the other side.

    It'll be the same revolting sycophancy that we saw in that article where the writer would defer to Obama no matter what, cause he's probably right and I'm wrong. Ugh.

  • Brett L||

    Now, now. Don't for get the GHWB/Cheney model. Cold, calculating heartless (literally) millionaires who are out to line their car seats with colored babies' skins and use the government to pay for it.

  • ||

    That's why it's so important to vote for those humble, working-class Democrats who totally aren't millionaires, like Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama.

  • al the gored||

    in their S. U. V.s

  • Mensan||

    I see what you did there.

  • Gregory Smith||

    That's why I don't listen to the left, they're pointless.

  • Tony's Mom||

    "KOCHTOPUS!!!"

  • Warty||

    3. What is the first thing that the new Congress should do upon taking office in 2011? Kill themselves.

    ELIMINASHONIST

  • C-SPAN||

    Our ratings would go through the roof!!

  • ||

    ...that the time is now to shake off our slumber, and slough off our fear...

    We have nothing to fear except hope itself.

  • Citizen Nothing||

    Excellent.

  • Restoras||

    Say anything to get elected. In the end all that matters is power; getting it, keeping it, and consolidating it.

  • Poppin' Caps lock||

    That's the way that almost all human beings in the world think. The ones that try not to think this way are delusional, and the ones who say they don't think this way are either lying or delusional.

  • Poppin' Caps lock||

    It's the way humans are naturally wired. That's why Obama's so successful and will probably be re-elected: because he actually bothers to learn what he needs to do in order to gain the loyalty of the people.

  • Owebama||

    "Present!"

  • Independents||

    Yawn, I'm sorry, did he do something?

  • GITMO||

    "ahem"

  • Apogee||

    If by "loyalty", you mean "a low 40's approval rating", and if by "re-elected" you mean "manage to defeat a soulless, retarded GOP nominee", then, by all means, I agree with you.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    As fabulous as those images are, there needs to be a moratorium called on animated gifs. There has to be something in the ADA regulations somewhere that makes these siezure-inducing things illegal. YOU'VE RUINED OBAMA'S BEAUTIFUL WORDS PUTTING THEM NEXT TO THAT SILLINESS.

  • Brett L||

    The punishment should be letting the blink tag loose in comments for a day.

  • Vermont Gun Owner||

    Only the police editors are professional enough to have guns blink tags.

  • Tony sucks diseased cock||

    Obama intended to do all those things, but the problems created by Bush and Cheney (and Reagan) are so deeply entrenched that it will take at least a second term to begin to work them all out.

    Seriously, none of it is Obama's fault.

    The problems in Libya are Reagan's fault for bombing the wrong tent.

    Our dependence on foreign oil is not Obama's fault. It's BP's fault for leaking all that oil into the Gulf. If they hadn't screwed that up there would be drilling out there.

    The problem with education is Republican union busting. That's not Obama's fault.

    And we all know that the economy's ills are a result of deregulation under Bush and Cheney.

    See?

    It's all because of Republicans.

  • knee jerk Tony||

    And obstructionist racist rethuglicans!!!11!ONE!!

  • Gus||

    Apparently, if Tony didn't exist, Reasonites would need to invent him.

  • Vermont Gun Owner||

    There is a theory that that is how he came to be in the first place.

  • Chinny Chin Chin||

    Reason needs a large looming lefty.

  • Old Mexican||

    Hey! The disclaimer! Don't you guys read the disclaimer??

  • ||

    Turns over coupon,

    Oh, yeah, here it is: "This offer void in all states with a vowel in the state name."

  • fine print||

    * excepting the state of denial

  • despondency and despair||

    as always, we're unexceptional

    *emo sulks*

  • Owebama||

    "what about the other seven?"

  • Diseased Cock||

    Please. Even I have some standards, after all.

  • George Carlin||

    Here's something you never hear a guy say: "Stop sucking my dick, or I'll call the police!"

  • ||

    lol, only thing Obama is good for is giving speeches. All talk, NO action.

    www.anon-tools.no.tc

  • Almanian||

    Anon Bot, your wisdom and calm when all around you is chaos is refreshing and comforting.

  • Almanian||

    What's stopped us from meeting these challenges is not the absence of sound policies and sensible plans.

    Wrong. It is exactly the absence of sound policies. Glad to see you've changed literally NOTHING since getting in office, Mr. Prezzidente!

    Fuck you Obamatards who voted for him.

  • Mensan||

    When I first heard this speech, I remember wondering aloud why he didn't consider the "absence of sound policy and sensible plans" to be a problem.

  • Almanian||

    Also, I blame Bush

  • Chris||

    Does the Secret Service and FBI have any leads yet on who kidnapped Candidate Obama, who sent chills up my legs, and replaced him with G.W.B.III?

  • Chris Matthews ||

    It's a Chris thing

  • Ted S.||

    Don't blame me; I voted for Kodos.

  • ||

    Republicans should love Obama at this point - he's proven to be basically McCain with a tan and a less attractive running mate. Even his disastrous "socialist" health care plan is nothing more than the Romney Republican plan with a few more tax breaks for big Pharma thrown in. I wonder what would happen if an actual liberal ever did get into the White House?

  • silent v||

    I wonder what would happen if an actual liberal ever did get into the White House?

    After everything went to shit, you would claim that the President wasn't a "real" liberal?

  • JoJo Zeke||

    After everything went to shit, you would claim that the President wasn't a "real" liberal?

    +1,000,000

  • Cytotoxic||

    Why the question mark?

  • ||

    No, Carter was certainly a real liberal, so was LBJ. I wouldn't claim either of them did a good job as President. But the idea that Obama is in any way "left-wing" is farcical - it's almost like believing that Rand Paul is a libertarian.

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    But the idea that Obama is in any way "left-wing" is farcical

    His political demogauging and campaign tactics are certainly left-wing--witness what his campaign organization did to stir things up in Madison last month--but his political policies aren't anything different than both parties have practiced for the last 50+ years.

    I have to admit, he's certainly taken the concept "being promoted to your level of incompetency" and made it all his own.

  • Bucky||

    ^this^

  • mad libertarian guy||

    Spoken like a true TEAM RED supporter.

  • ||

    Just as Democrats should love GWB because of all his extra social spending, his massively increased foreign aid, and his Keynesian stimulus.

    Obama isn't McCain with a tan, he's GWB with a tan, right down to both of them supporting the bipartisan energy bills.

  • nekoxgirl||

    You're right for the most part. The last sentence needs some correction though. You see, Obama IS an actual liberal. At least in the 20th century meaning of the word. Where you are confused is that most of the Republicans, Bush included, are liberals too. If you don't like the how the country has been doing vanya, blame liberals. They're the ones that have been in charge for the last century.

  • Zeb||

    Perhaps we ought to define what we mean when we say "liberal" before we start arguing about who is one.

  • Knibbler||

    Yeah, screw modern society! Let's put the women back in the kitchens and the slaves back in chains! Those damn liberals ruin everything!

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    Someone has clearly been practicing their "false dilemma" debating style!

  • Southern State Democrates||

    Shhhhh, you'll give away...

  • alan||

    We already know. Eight years of Bush with his Wilsonian wars and his Big Johnson Medicare and federal involvement in public instruction expansions was enough 'liberalism' for one decade, but keep believing your beliefs are just soooo bad ass and would result in something different from corporatism.

  • ||

    Bumbersticker I saw the other day:

    Voted For Obama?
    Thanks A Lot, Asshole!

  • Spoonman.||

    I saw a "More Prisons Less Schools" bumper sticker the other day.

    I assume it was a joke, but...what the fuck?

  • Almanian||

    I must have one of of those stickers

  • Bucky||

    i've seen quite a few indiscreet public schools...

  • Brett L||

    "Fewer" Schools. Unless schools are now indiscrete.

  • ||

    How about a "Grammar Nazis, Suck" bumpersticker?

  • sarcasmic||

    "My student beat up your honor student"

  • alan||

    My Honor Student Builds A Better Meth Lab

  • Barely Suppressed Rage||

    How about a "Grammar Nazis, Suck" bumpersticker?

    Dude, you totally put an unnecessary comma in there. It should be "Grammar Nazis Suck."

  • sarcasmic||

    How's about "Grammar Nazis. Suck."

  • Dave||

    Grammar Nazis: Suck!

  • ||

    Welcome to my parlor.

  • Mensan||

    BSR, the comma wasn't unnecessary if it was an imperative statement.

  • Brett L||

    "I Live in an Irony-Free Universe"

  • Brett L||

    That should have been in reply to BSR.

  • Paul||

    "Fewer" Schools. Unless schools are now indiscrete.

    We need Cavanaugh for a ruling on this.

  • alan||

    I've been looking for the Obama with the peace sign logo. A freshly minted one on a car would just be diabolical.

  • prolefeed||

    I think it would need THREE peace sign logos, for the three "peace-keeping" missions he's currently making us pay for.

  • prolefeed||

  • ||

    I live in Alameda CA - very far left. Saw a car yesterday with an Obama/Biden bumper sticker and a War Is Not The Answer sticker right next to it. I pointed and laughed. It felt good.

  • Masturbatin' Pete||

    You know what I haven't seen in forever? A "Dissent is the Highest Form of Patriotism" bumper sticker. I wonder why...

  • Predicador||

    What does 'misundereducating' mean? Something opposite to 'properly undereducating'?

  • Almanian||

    Fucking humor, how does it work?

  • sarcasmic||

    It's kinda like misundererecting without alcohol.

  • Old Mexican||

    Re: Predicator,

    What does 'misundereducating' mean?


    Means not reaching the intended undereducation goals yet, or sabotaging the effort by actually teaching.

  • Gus||

    "What does 'misundereducating' mean?"

    It means we're all going to the camps!

  • Restoras||

    Bushisms, Part Duh

  • Bucky||

    oh, i get it. you're so frustrated golden boy has been finally outed that your Bush bile had to be spewed onto to Reason.

  • ||

    The republicans had to be punished and punished HARD. How did that work out? As far as I can tell, the democrats are still chasing their tail and the stupid party is still stupid.

    Did we get change yet?

  • Knibbler||

    Change requires cooperation. You need to get your head out of your ass before that can happen.

  • ||

    Uh, the Dems had 60 votes in the Senate, control of the House, and the Presidency. You really can't blame anyone else for O's failures.

  • ||

    But I've been there long enough to know that the ways of Washington must change.

    MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

    Right?

    RIGHT?

  • ||

    We have nothing to fear except hope itself.

    Most excellent.

  • N John||

    For those of you asking what the fuck has Obama done so far:

    http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

  • Old Mexican||

    They don't beat around the bush when it comes to naming their site, do they???

  • bob||

    The "Big Fucking Deal" button couldn't be more accurate.

  • Ky Voter||

    "Issued executive order closing Guantanamo Bay."

    "Signed ... first piece of legislation aimed at improving the lives of people with paralysis."

    "...gave 11 million children healthcare..."

    Fascinating piece of propaganda you've got there.

  • ||

    Signed ... first piece of legislation aimed at improving the lives of people with paralysis.

    I thought FDR signed social security, which pays disability benefits.

    And I thought Bush I signed the ADA.

  • Zeb||

    But those laws aim at improving other people's lives too. The paralyzed need their own law, damnit!

  • ||

    No, our lawmakers need to be paralyzed...

  • Poppin' Caps lock||

    "Ky Voter"

    "Ky" as in...the jelly?

  • mr simple||

    I can't tell if I'm supposed to be happy or upset by that list of accomplishments. I know what I feel, but I'm not sure I they are pro or con.

  • Banjos||

  • ||

    Oddly enough, both are registered through Domains By Proxy, Inc.

  • Mensan||

    "The American Recovery & Reinvestment Act of 2009: a $789 billion economic stimulus plan"

    Umm...that's a bad thing.

    "Signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, restoring basic protections against pay discrimination for women and other workers"

    Unnecessary BS. There is no wage gap. It's a myth.

    "Signed the Children's Health Insurance Reauthorization Act, which provides health care to 11 million kids -- 4 million of whom were previously uninsured"

    "Increased minority access to capital"

    "Health Care Reform Bill, preventing insurance companies from denying insurance because of a pre-existing condition"

    Insurance? Barry, this word...I don't think it means what you think it means.

    "Expansion of Medicaid to all individuals under age 65 with incomes up to 133 percent of the federal poverty level"

    "Increased funding for national parks and forests by 10%"

    "Expanded hate crime law in the US to include sexual orientation through the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act"

    I don't get it. I think this site is supposed to be pro-Obama, but it just keeps pointing out all the terrible shit he has given us. Couldn't they find even one thing he has done as president that is actually good?

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    "Signed the Children's Health Insurance Reauthorization Act, which provides health care to 11 million kids -- 4 million of whom were previously uninsured"

    Yeah, those poor, uninsured, 26-year-old children.

  • ||

    Those are all cute. Bush signed a bunch of cute laws, too. But Obama was supposed to be the anti-Bush. He was supposed to undo all the terrible things Bush did to our country. And he hasn't done squat in that department. We're still at war: Bush's war + Libya. Gitmo's still open. TSA and Homeland Security and illegal wiretaps and secret interrogation centers still exist. And the economy's still in the tank. Obama has done lots of stuff, but he's done NOTHING that he actually got elected to do.

  • ||

    Yeah, but at least he stuck it to the fat cats on Wall Street! I thought nobody could be worse than Dubya. I was wrong.

  • sevo||

    Unfortunately, the top banner asks if I want The Donald for president.
    Almost, but not quite, enough to make me vote for Obama.
    I guess No One gets my vote again; that guy always runs and his speeches aren't as insulting as the others.

  • ||

    Speaking of birthers, the latest variation is that Obama's social security number is fraudulent. I flipped through an on-line copy of the complaint.

    Apparently, his Social was originally issued to some woman born in the late 1800s, and some government background check site lists it as "questionable" or "unconfirmed" or something.

    I gather the theory is that he had to get a fake one because he couldn't produce documentation (a long-from birth certificate?) proving he was a US citizen.

    Quite entertaining. Seriously, I'm pulling for these guys, just because it would be comedy fucking platinum if it turns out Obama really committed identity theft to cover up his dubious citizenship. Can you imagine the hullabaloo?

  • Brett L||

    Occam's Razor tells me that Hillary would have discovered and used this in '08 if it were true.

  • ||

    Apparently, his Social was originally issued to some woman born in the late 1800s

    If you can judge a man by the quality of his enemies, Obama must a sub-grade moron.

    Social Security numbers weren't issued until 1936.

  • sevo||

    With no comment on whether it's a hoax or not, there's plenty of S/S numbers issued to those born in the late 1800s.
    She'd (?) only have to be forty or so at the time.

  • ||

    Never mind. I read it as a number issued in the late 1800s. DURR.

  • sevo||

    Wish I could say I've never done that.

  • ||

    If you can judge a man by the quality of his enemies, Obama must a sub-grade moron.

    What is it they say? Res ipsa loquitur?

  • sarcasmic||

    If Obama did commit identity fraud to get elected, could he be impeached?
    Or would he be in the clear since the felony was committed before taking office?

  • ||

    I don't think there's any requirement that the felony be committed in office. Besides, I'm sure he's used it any number of times since taking office, which would be separate offenses.

  • Brett L||

    The entire Whitewater debacle would support your case.

  • Hairy Reed||

    ...could he be impeached?

    Not as long as I run the Senate.

  • Zeb||

    House impeaches.

  • Hairy Reed||

    Senate convicts or doesn't convict - gets the last word.

  • Bucky||

    Senate Convicts. let's stop right there...

  • Vermont Gun Owner||

    I AM the Senate!

  • .||

    Speaking of birthers: I wonder how they pulled this video off?

  • ||

    Never mind.

    Dude, this is teh intartube; you can't just throw down your shovel and walk away.

  • ||

    "...pumping carbon into the air..."

    Anyone who believes that "pumping carbon in the air" is a problem should immediately cease pumping carbon in the air. Please, I cannot take this BS much longer.

  • Zeb||

    Anyone who thinks that they know for sure that it is not a problem should also shut up.

  • sarcasmic||

    Burden of proof is on those who claim THE END IS NIGH! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE! REPENT YOUR CARBON USING WAYS! AAAAUUUUUGGGHHHHHHHH!, not the other way around.

  • ||

    No, I think the past few hundred million years of rain forests being a predominant feature on this planet has the "know for sure" part taken care of.

  • Mini Ice Ages||

    ahem.(whispering) over here, over here, anytime, anytime.

  • Restoras||

    But if they did that, they would stop breathing...oh wait, I see what you're getting at.

  • ||

    If Obama did commit identity fraud to get elected, could he be impeached?

    Not in this reality.

  • sarcasmic||

    Let's see, let me refer to my abridged Constitution here.

    General welfare ... regulate commerce ... necessary and proper

    Looks like the federal government can write laws to control and provide anything, limited only by the imagination of the legislator, but nothing about removing anyone from office.

    I should have thought of that before asking a stupid question.

  • .||

    Obama 2012 - or CASH FOR CLUNKERS II

  • ||

    during the '08 election, I wanted to scream to passing strangers "Obama is a fraud!!!" Not that it would have made a difference, but at least I could have worked my anger out.

    Of course Mcfuckain wouldn't be a treat either.

  • ||

    It seems like a cop out to say "they all suck!", but the problem is they do all suck. McCain, Bush, Obama, Romney, Kerry, etc. etc. Deep down there's just no real difference between any of these people on real issues - foreign policy, immigration, bank bailouts, etc. We are ruled by an Oligarchy. If the alternative is Dennis Kucinich on the left or Bachmann on the right, maybe the Oligarchy isn't the worst of all possible worlds, true. But why accept the status quo?

  • Knibbler||

    Wait, he was fraudelent about what? It seems to me like he's worked his ass off to get done as much as he has. I think we can save gay marriage for 2013.

  • John Jackson||

    I say your 3% Titanium tax doens't go too far enough!

  • prolefeed||

    Bumper sticker:

    "Because deep down, you know you DESERVE a man who lies to you and treats you like crap! Obama 2012"

  • ||

    Sexcellent...

  • Knibbler||

    What lie? He said he would do everything he can, what has he not done that he could have gotten through congress?

  • ||

    Uh. Anything?

  • ||

    "I recognize there is a certain presumptuousness - a certain audacity - to this announcement...if you sense, as I sense, that the time is now to shake off our slumber, and slough off our fear, and make good on the debt we owe past and future generations..."

    I'd say "asinine arrogance" rather than mere "audacity". And how much MORE debt do we owe those future generations now, as a direct result of his ruinous policies?

  • Knibbler||

    Wasn't it the Bush era and recession that put us in debt? Wasn't the $700 billion dollar stimulus considered to save by 6 nobel lauretes and 200 economists to have saved the country from disaster?

    Shouldn't we be worrying more about education than the deficit?

  • Shorter Knibbler||

    But-but-b-b-BUSH DID IT TOO!!

  • ||

    "Shouldn't we be worrying more about education than the deficit?"

    No. Next stupid question.

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    Wasn't it the Bush era and recession that put us in debt?

    Wow. Only an idiot college student wouldn't know how to look up "Historical Debt Outstanding" on the Treasury's web site.

  • Bucky||

    thought that money was already back in the bank with profit...
    perhaps you should be worrying about fact checking and cast ad hominem aside..

  • Bucky||

    that was for Knibby

  • JB||

    "libertarians who voted for Obama"

    =

    morons.

    Also, I can't wait to buy my GTFO 2012 shirt:
    http://www.thoseshirts.com/gtf.html

  • Knibbler||

    Matt Welch: So you expected Obama stand apart from the UN and let Qadafi murder his people, stop America from using oil, fix the problems with state education systems, eliminate carbon emissions, and give everyone a job? You must be naive, I'm sure he didn't believe that. From what I've seen he is working his ass off to run the largest and most complicated nation on earth while trying keeping the congressional children from becoming feral and bankrupting the country. Face it, the recession is over, jobs are increasing, don't ask don't tell is being repealed, 'enhanced interrogation' methods are no longer used, the stimulus package was succesful, and universal healthcare is not going to bankrupt the country. Sure unemployment is at 8.8% (do you remember 10%?), but the man helped stop the the world's largest locamotive from driving into the ravine. Do you think giving more tax breaks to GE might help?

  • ||

    ??????????????

    This is a libertarian blog, not Red State. I suspect Mr Welch doesn't want more tax breaks to GE and doesn't want Obama to give everyone a job... and few here think the president should be "running the country." That's for us individual Americans to do.

  • ||

    You are one gullible motherfucker.

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    That's why I commented that Knibbler has to be a college student, because all that tripe clearly came straight from a know-nothing professor's mouth onto his/her notepad.

  • Publius||

    As opposed to a know-it-all Libertarian.

  • Bob||

    Obama is waging an illegal war against Lybia, a completely inconsequential country that our own officials admit has no strategic meaning to us.

    There is far more genocide underway in Ivory Coast, how come your lord and savior hasn't lifted a finger to stop it?

    And maybe you missed the story the other day about GE paying no taxes under this tough-on-big-business administration. What a joke.

  • Bucky||

    Sure unemployment is at 8.8% (do you remember 10%)...
    no, what i remember is the made and saved that turned out to be bullshit...
    what i remember is the news about people who have stopped looking for work...
    what i remember is that for every clean, green job created, three jobs are lost...
    what i remember is his cabinet was comprised of people that have the business acumen of a flea, with only 8% real world experience...
    sorry, i lost it for a moment...

  • Unicorn Jockey||

    sigh ...I'm so depressed.

  • Nash||

    I voted for Barr. And Obama is obviously awful. But as bad as he is, everytime McCain weighs in on policy he insists on sounding worse. McCain wanted to double down on TARP. He wanted to intervene in Georgia. He wants a giant dang border fence apparently. He wants to escalate in Libya. Yes Obama is terrible. McCain would have been far worse and the biggest reason why is the GOP wouldn't even be complaining about it.

  • ||

    It's still exactly as he said 4 years ago. The solutions are still possible. Republicans,Tea Partiers, get out of the way and become part of the solution instead of the chronic, intractable problem.

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    Your "solutions" don't really seem to be solving jack shit, regardless of the number of GOPers in office.

    Leaders lead. Posers blame "obstruction."

  • Publius||

    I wonder if you're at all familiar with the concept of "separation of powers".

  • ||

    You still think Obama actually has principles and integrity? He's happy to blame the Republicans and do nothing all day, it means he doesn't have to piss off any of his Wall Street donors. I hear his golf game is getting pretty good as well...

  • joeyd||

    My new anti-Obama slogan sticker for 2012 "Uh-oh Spagehtti-O".

  • Bucky||

    i like
    2012, Obama's 2010

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