Guy Offers Free Rides to Keep Drunk Drivers Off the Streets, Is Arrested

Some guy's friend gets killed by a drunk driver and he decides to do something about it. He starts a service to keep drunks off the road by offering free rides home. It turns out that Quincy, Illinois, is well stocked with semi-responsible drunks, so "business" booms. He adds another car to the service, and eventually a bus. Local taxi companies are not amused.

The cab company complained loud enough that the Quincy City Council changed its taxi and limousine ordinance to remove the words "for hire" from its definitions and thus eliminate the loophole Schoenakase was operating under. Following the change, Jonathan applied for a license and the Chief of Police was supposedly about to approve it, but withdrew and said Schoenakase needed to clear up some legal issues.

When you're charging for something and someone else figures out a way to offer it for free, normally you're SOL. Unless, of course, you happen to be operating in a regulated industry with licensing requirements—and you happen to have the ear of the city council and/or the chief of police. Then there's another, more appealing alternative: You can make the competition illegal.

Hero guy Jonathon Schoenakase has been arrested twice in "sting operations," all for the want of a $10 license.

Via alert reader Irl Sanders.

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  • Almanian||

    Rent-Seeking Cabbies

    would be an excellent name for a rock band.

  • Citizen of Quincy||

    Please check your facts before supporting Courtesy Rides. This story is inaccurate in so many ways that I cannot even begin to clarify the issues. What may seem like a hero being persecuted is really an ex-con that keeps breaking the law and does not take responsibility for his actions. Please do not think he needs your monetary support. He is making enough money from his "free" service to add cars and a party bus. He is not covered properly with insurance, he cannot be bonded, and the ongoing legal issues will keep him from getting the license.

    You have to live here to understand what the real problems are with Courtesy Rides.

  • ||

    Kiss off, disgruntled "citizen". I'd love to use stronger language, but I want you to know what a tool you sound like. Whatsa matter, the guy cut into your pocketbook by having a good idea?

  • ||

    Well, so what your saying is that he doesn't have insurance on his vehicle and should get that or be shut down. Makes sense after all what if he crashes into a wall or something because a drunk grabbed the steering wheel. That's a big bill! If he is providing a free service then, how would he pay that big bill. It sounds like a safety issue. anyone want to help maybe offer insurance.

  • ||

    It is not just the cabbies. Think of all of the money in lost DUI revenue he was costing the city. And not only the city but also the associated chronies in the rehab and alcohol education rackets. This guy made a lot of enemies.

    More importantly, he set the dangerous precedent of people dealing with their own problems without the government. And we can never had that. It is a wonder they didn't shoot him.

  • Almanian||

    John, all VERY good points.

  • Almanian||

    ....and I think he deserves to have his dog shot. And if he doesn't have a dog, they should make him get one so they can shoot it.

  • ||

    I should have said "it is a wonder they didn't shoot him and his dog". I forgot dog shooting is not compulsory among the ruling class when dealing with the proles.

  • ||

    Q: A policeman is shaving himself. The telephone rings. Why does he cut himself?


    ...A: So he knows where to resume from.

  • Hugh Akston||

    Mustn't forget the solicitors whose sole racket is cleaning up DUIs and traffic infractions.

  • Jeffersonian||

    It is a wonder they didn't shoot him.

    Or, more importantly, his dog. Gotta get the dog.

  • Astrid||

    You forgot all the campaign dollars loss because politicians will have less grieving families of those killed by drunk drivers to drag out when they promise to get even tougher on DUIs.

  • ||

    True. In many small towns the entire political system depends on drunk drivers.

  • ||

    Right ON the money Astrid! My take on why States won't get tough on drunks is because it generates billions of dollars for said States. Not just in fines, but in Federal Assistance Funds also. States make more off the federal handouts to combat traffic offenses then almost any-other federal subsidy State Welfare Programs. In essence states need that federal money now like Pimps need their girls to keep trick'n. Can we say, "Sugar Daddy"?! Because thats what the Federal Governments become over the last 40 yrs, & the fed likes being the sugar daddy because they get to call the shots when States take that money. Corruption starts at the top.

  • Psychic Octopus||

    ^^concise, yet includes everything^^

  • ||

    I seriously doubt the conspiracy against this guy is as widespread as you think. The cabbies are usually enough to put the kibosh on things like this.

    It's clear that cabs should be regulated and licensed -- you don't want out of town people getting into random strangers' cars, for God's sake! But obviously the denial of a license to this guy reeks of favoritism.

  • Coeus||

    It's clear that cabs should be regulated and licensed

    I think that we must have a different definition of clear.

  • More Info||

    This is a small town with one cab company. They only have one or two cab's. The cab company doesn't run after midnight and the town has 3-4 major bars that are open till 3am. This service was also being offered free of charge, if you felt inclined you could give the driver a tip or donation.

  • ||

    No good deed goes unpunished. I hope the chief has a child killed by a drunk. That will show the douche.

  • ||

    How about the Chief, instead, gets thrown out of his job instead for abusing his power and the cab company is punished by consumers for being rent-seeking douchenozzles?

    Yeah, I thought that was pretty funny too.

  • skr||

    douchenozzles

    bhahahahah. i'm going to have to start using this term.

  • Tim||

    Let it be him, not a child.

  • Invisible Finger||

    Devil spawn.

  • Apogee||

    How about the Chief and City Council sued personally by the family of a victim of a drunk driver? Elimination of an alternative could be argued as contributing to the cause.

  • ||

    The guy is singlehandedly wrecking the economy; he must be stopped.

  • Government of Wolves||

    Barack Obama runs a bus/cab service?

  • jplop||

    Lol!!!

  • Barely Suppressed Rage (WTF)||

    Well fuckity fuck fuck fuck.

  • Herp a Derp||

    Nobody messes with Big Taxi and gets away with it. NOBODY.

  • Louie De Palma||

    Damned straight.

  • Government of Wolves||

    That's a real nice charity youse got there, Jonny-boy. It'd be a real shame, a real... tragedy, if something bad were to happen to it. So shape up, hey?

  • DeNiro||

    Are you talkin' to me?

    Are YOU talkin' to ME?

  • jim ignatowski||

    I don't know - was I?

  • ||

    How do we know this guy isn't just a serial killer hunting for easy marks? Licensing protects society from such predators.

  • Take Care of THIS!||

    Licensing protects society from such predators.

    I'm usually against government intervention, but it's nice that they do make all the immoral, sociopathic members of society wear shiny badges and blue uniforms. It makes them easy to identify.

  • ||

    Bahahahahaha

  • ||

    "Say are you about a size fourteen?"

  • timin||

    hahah "It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again"

  • ||

    This is actually a valid argument for regulation.

  • Coeus||

    Yeah, because we all know a serial killer would never steal or make a fake license. I mean, come on. These sociopaths have standards.

  • ||

    And we all know licensed cabbies never rape. Just like certified cops don't break the law.

    http://tiny.cc/4asbk

  • ||

    I've never understood this: how the heck can "society" and its licenses protect us from predators? Does "society" have a magic ball that can read the future actions of every person who applies for a license?

  • ||

    >i>The cab company complained loud enough that the Quincy City Council changed its taxi and limousine ordinance to remove the words "for hire"

    I'd love to see how that definition reads now. I bet it outlaws carpooling without a taxi license.

  • juris imprudent||

    Good god man, are you implying they didn't think through all the possible consequences?

  • Mo||

    OFFS! I'd love for the next person injured in a drunk driving accident to take the city council to court over this shit and force them to defend this crap in the public rather than behind the closed doors of city hall.

  • Cyto||

    From the comments on the linked article there's a lot of ad-homenim attacks against Jon:

    1989 Arson (pled guilty)
    1997 DUI (pled guilty)
    1997 Peace Disturbance (pled guilty)
    1997 Speeding 21-25 mph over limit (pled guilty)
    1997 Burglary (pled guilty)
    1997 Forgery (pled guilty)
    2010 Driving too fast for conditions (pled guilty)
    2010 Leaving the scene of an accident (pending)

    I think those are the "legal issues" that need clearing up. Also from the article, he runs on donations from his riders. Given history it seems plausible that he's actually using the "Drunk Driver" ride plus "donations" to skirt the law on being a taxi driver.

    Still, it shows that the regulations are limiting competition and artificially inflating prices (otherwise, he'd find no market).

  • ||

    It is run on donations. People don't have to give him anything. I fail to see why I should care or the taxi drivers have any right to complain.

  • Barely Suppressed Rage (WTF)||

    They absolutely have a right to complain; what they don't have is a right for the city council to "fix" it for them.

  • Fluffy||

    But John, the law's the law.

    People use the law to protect their businesses every day.

    Why aren't these taxi companies entitled to do that? How can we blame them? They're just letting their opinions be known.

  • ||

    Maybe he should turn the van into a mosque.

    Speaking of which, does this change to the ordinance forbid all those school buses churches use to bring people to service now?

  • ||

    Just because businesses use the "law" to "protect" themselves, doesn't mean it's right, or it's just. It most likely means that the law needs to be changed!

  • ||

    Actually, they didn't use the law to protect their business... They got the law CHANGED so they to protect their business, and it's a damned shame it worked...

  • Ray Pew||

    1997 was a busy year for this guy.

  • Drax the Destroyer||

    Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

  • Cthorm||

    Irl Sanders? I posted this in a threadjack yesterday. Originally from Jalopnik.

  • Cthorm||

  • thoreau||

    I do wonder why the guy doesn't just go and get the $10 license and spare himself the hassle, but I suspect that there's a backstory that makes the process of getting this license rather more difficult than just paying $10.

  • Barely Suppressed Rage (WTF)||

    The IRS and state Dept. of Revenue will get after him next, for the tax on that income he receives in the form of tips and donations.

  • ||

    I don't know about this town, but in a lot of places you have to "know somebody" to get a license. The companies that already have the licenses fight desperately to stop newcomers from getting them; so your "somebody" has to have enough horsepower to overcome their "somebody".

  • ||

    americans make me laugh my head off...always going on about freedom isn't free..... ha, wipe your asses kiddies, you're leaking buttjuice while you're quivering before freedom.

  • ||

    I do wonder why the guy doesn't just go and get the $10 license and spare himself the hassle

    Really?

    I do wonder why all those black people can't go to their own fountain... and spare themselves the "hassle".

  • Anon||

    They can't go to their own fountain because they're sold it and gambled away the money.

  • Alex||

    Wow. Analogy fail.

  • Caleb||

    You mean all those regulations that were set up with the best of intentions are now being used to curtail competition.

    NO SHIT!

  • Barely Suppressed Rage (WTF)||

    I went and checked it out. The story as reported is not quite correct.

    Any vehicle "regularly used in the business of carrying passengers for hire" is either a limousine (if it has a fixed route or schedule) or a taxi (if it does not).

    The town did not remove the definition of "for hire" from its code. Instead, they revised it to include "an acceptance of any consideration of any kind".

    The guy did not charge any fees, but gladly accepted tips and donations towards his costs. By modifying the definition of "for hire" to include ANY consideration of any kind, his tips made him "for hire," or so the city's argument goes.

  • ||

    So it would include car poolers who chip in for gas. RC above was right.

  • Barely Suppressed Rage (WTF)||

    No, because they are not "regularly used in the business of carrying passengers". It's not a business if it's just friends bumming a ride and chipping in for gas.

    Next: how to determine whether something is "regularly used in a business." Something courts do all the time for certain tax questions.

  • robc||

    His isnt a business either. Its a charity (in theory).

  • Barely Suppressed Rage (WTF)||

    An activity does not have be profitable to be considered a "business."

  • anon||

    Churches are considered charity, but they accept donations all the time...

  • anon||

    Churches are considered charity, but they accept donations all the time...

  • ||

    church and state drink from the same water fountain that non club members are prohibited to drink from.

  • ||

    "No, because they are not "regularly used in the business of carrying passengers"

    I would say taking the same people to work five days a week in the same car would make that care "regularly used in the business of carrying passengers".

  • Barely Suppressed Rage (WTF)||

    No, because those people are not in the business of carrying passengers - they are a bunch of people on the way to work, sharing a ride. The fact that they do it every day doesn't make it a business. Their "business" is where they're going.

  • Invisible Finger||

    Not all carpools are people going to work. Some are soccer mom's dropping off other's kids at practice and picking them up.

  • ||

    Then what is using it in their business? Presumably this guy supports himself some other way. He's not doing this for income. Nor is he doing it full time or even close to full time.

  • Barely Suppressed Rage (WTF)||

    Hence the problem courts often have figuring out whether an activity constitutes a "business" or not. But courts answer this question all the time "based on the totality of the facts and circumstances of the case".

  • ||

    "Hence the problem courts often have figuring out whether an activity constitutes a "business" or not."

    Which was not a problem in this case until the legislature, at the behest of the taxi companies, decided to make it a problem. But, hey, some court will eventually sort out the soccer moms and the businessmen and the churches from the people the lawmakers don't like this week, so it's all good.

  • Citizen of Quincy||

    Yep, he is making money doing this. He is a part-time student at the local Community College, in his 30's, living at home with mom. He is making enough money to add cars, other drivers, and a party bus to his "free" service.... He is not paying income tax, he is not an official charity for the irs, he is illegal in a variety of ways.

  • Captain BONER||

    O HAI MY NAEM IS MR CAB COMPANY OWENR N I LIEK SLANDERING PPL ONLINE LAWLZ CUZ THEY CUT INTO MY PROFITS FOR DOING FRE STUFZ LOLZ

  • WorBlux||

    A business is an organization designed to provide goods or services.

    A carpool is an organization designed to provide a service; Get people to work. Consideration is almost always given in the form of a weekly chip in for gas, or a rotation of drivers and vehicles. This changed ordinance can be the basis of a charge against any vehicle used in carpooling, unless all of your passengers are total bums and offer nothing whatsoever in return.

  • IRS||

    What is the income value of that chip-in cash?

  • ||

    If I'm carpooling to work (or school), then I'm regularly carrying passengers.

    If they chip in for gas, or even bring me coffee and a donut, then I'm accepting consideration "of any kind".

    So far, so good. The only way to distinguish a carpool from the drunk van is by saying that his vehicle is "used in business" and mine is not. I'm struggling to come up with a definition of business that includes his community service, but not mine.

    I would think this new definition would also catch those busses and vans that churches send around to pick up parishioners.

  • Barely Suppressed Rage (WTF)||

    Do the parishioners offer any consideration for the service of being transported?

  • EscapedWestOfTheBigMuddy||

    I suspect they put more in the plate than they would if they had to hire a ride...

    And the fact that this is not the intent means nothing once some apartnik gets a'hold'a it.

  • Apogee||

    ...more in the plate than they would...

    Which is a way for him to avoid all of this hassle.

    Set up a charity and have any donations go towards that. I don't see any stipulations over the time or place of donations.

  • Barely Suppressed Rage (WTF)||

    You're only creating all new and different hassles when you "set up a charity." You've got to get a letter from IRS certifying your non-profit status in order to accept tax-free donations, and there are various tax regulations the entity would be subject to.

    And it almost certainly would have to register with the state to solicit charitable donations.

    And just because it's a charity doesn't mean it automatically would be exempt from the requirement to have the license.

  • ||

    why is it americans need their hands held and led across the road all the time ?
    why can't an american think for himself without a jobsworth coming along and handing him a crutch to lean on ? Yeah, freedom aint free.

  • Cabeza de Vaca||

    Prayers & blessings.

  • Realitist||

    "Love and affection" is "consideration of any kind."

  • ¢||

    I do wonder why the guy doesn't just go and get the $10 license and spare himself the hassle

    The council's recent statutory revision to include donation-only courtesy rides among the transportation services that require commercial cab licensure was made against him personally at the behest of local taxi services, and his docility reflex is apparently much weaker than yours.

  • No Name Guy||

    It's naked piss ant shit like this that causes folks to lose what ever final shreds of respect they may have had for government. Talk about naked protectionism of the local cabbie guild.

  • ||

    it's also crap like this that leads to blind shooting sprees.

  • Barely Suppressed Rage (WTF)||

    By the way, it's not just the 10 buck license. The code also requires specific insurance coverage and lays out qualifications for the driver.

    Additionally, if he carries 15 or more passengers, he will subject himself to federal motor carrier safety law, and require a commercial driver's license (CDL). If his vehicle has a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) over 10,000 lbs, which, judging from the pic, it likely does, it also would be a "commercial vehicle" and subject to regulation as such under state and federal law.

    There's much more to it than just his 10 buck license.

  • Drax the Destroyer||

    My CDL cost 100 fucking dollars, 3 months of training, and access to a goddamn bus to train in the first place. Moreover, the process was "smoothed over" because my employer knew the right DMV Nazis to fellate. What a bunch of horseshit it all was. I can't blame the guy for dodging that bullet.

  • ||

    Do the parishioners offer any consideration for the service of being transported?

    They make donations to the church, and those donations go, in part, to support the van.

    Is it specifically for the transport service? Maybe. But this guy will cart you home without a donation, and will accept donations from people regardless of whether they use his service, so again I struggle to draw a meaningful distinction.

  • Barely Suppressed Rage (WTF)||

    A completely valid and legitimate struggle.

    I would find this interesting to litigate. I have been involved in similar litigation against local government, with regard to property taxes. They also struggle to draw similar meaningful distinctions, and because of their inability to come up with them, sometimes lose such litigation.

  • Barely Suppressed Rage (WTF)||

    Wow, they really are overreaching...

    Alderman Dan Brink (R-6th Ward) asked the city's legal department and police to consider the measure. He voted to amend the ordinance along with Virgil Goehl (D-1st Ward), Steve Duesterhaus (D-2nd Ward), Dave Bauer (D-2nd Ward), Paul Havermale (R-3rd Ward), Mike Farha (R-4th Ward), Raymond "Skip" Vahlkamp (D-6th Ward) and Rich Reis (D-7th Ward).

    Aldermen Ben Bumbry (D-1st Ward), Kyle Moore (R-3rd Ward), Tony Sassen (R-4th Ward), Mike Rein (R-5th Ward) and Jack Holtschlag (D-7th Ward) voted to leave the ordinance alone.

    Rein asked City Attorney Tony Cameron if this ordinance would affect other instances of people who are reimbursed for providing courier services (such as churches and medicare providers who deliver medicine) but do not operate as taxis and Cameron said they would fall under the added definition.

    But Police Chief Rob Copley then said the department would not make arrests that wouldn't be prosecuted and he said the city was more concerned about "renegade" taxi services.

    "(The ordinance) now includes a whole bunch of people we never intended," Rein said.

    Lifted from the local news site.

  • Greer||

    Politician: So, the wording of this law makes everybody a criminal?

    Police Chief: Yes, but we'll only prosecute this guy.

    Citizen: We are completely fucked. They want to change a law that makes many people criminals to get to this one guy?

  • ||

    Q: A policeman is shaving himself. The telephone rings. Why does he cut himself?


    ...A: So he knows where to resume from.

  • ||

    A perfect lesson for those who don't know the difference between capitalism and crony capitalism, which isn't capitalism at all.

    Because it was named by its enemies, capitalism is often misunderstood. It is NOT the "ism" of "capital" or the ideology of money. That's another name for greed, so no wonder many of our youth are conned into thinking it is evil. Someone might look at the cab companies and say that as good "capitalists" who saw lost money, they used their friends in gov. to protect their business.

    But capitalism is nothing more and nothing less than the free market, the exchange of goods or services between two parties without outside interference.

    Here we have crony capitalism, where a business asked the government to use its power to squelch competition. This is the antithesis of capitalism: intrusion by the state.

    To prevent the angry typing I can already hear, I am not arguing for or against state interference in any market, just stating what it is.

  • Old Mexican||

    Re: Silrette,

    Here we have crony capitalism, where a business asked the government to use its power to squelch competition. This is the antithesis of capitalism: intrusion by the state.

    You won't get any angry typing from me.

    Well said.

  • Wearyman||

    "Here we have crony capitalism, where a business asked the government to use its power to squelch competition. This is the antithesis of capitalism: intrusion by the state."

    There are two terms that are appropriate for what you are calling "Crony Capitalism". The first, and more archaic, is called "Mercantilism". It was the type of state typically seen in Pre-Renaissance Italy. Machiavelli wrote extensively about it.

    The second version is more modern and interestingly, also originated in Italy. Fascism. This entire episode is little more than Fascism in microcosm.

    Say hello to your future America if you don't vote the Nanny Staters out and keep them out. At ALL levels of government.

  • ||

    I've become dissatisfied with the term "capitalism" myself, and realized it was likely created by Marx to disparage our system. For a while, I tried to come up with a better term.

    As I was reading a blog post somewhere about the twin evils of "Communism" and "Socialism" I realized what that word was: "Individualism", ie the opposite of "Collectivism".

    I've also concluded that Capitalism, as Marx described it, has an older term: Feudalism.

  • ||

    Since the city issues liquor licenses, it would seem they're responsible for keeping drunks off the road, or for then being on the road. And a ride program would be cheaper than cops. In order to get a liquor license, bars should have to provide rides if they can be held liable.

  • Coeus||

    Are you kidding me? Cops are revenue generators.

  • Old Mexican||

    Guy Offers Free Rides to Keep Drunk Drivers Off the Streets, Is Arrested

    Found one thing the government can do WELL - run a "justice dispensing" racket.

  • ||

    But Police Chief Rob Copley then said the department would not make arrests that wouldn't be prosecuted and he said the city was more concerned about "renegade" taxi services.

    "We'll only enforce this law against people we don't approve of."

  • Chad||

    The rest of the world calls this "public transportation", and makes it available for nominal fees.

    Not only does it protect you from drunks, but it allows you to go out with your spouse/gf/whatever, get plastered together, and still have an easy way to get home.

  • Barely Suppressed Rage (WTF)||

    The rest of the world calls this "public transportation"

    Uh... no - this is PRIVATE transportation. He is not operating a government-run mass transit system, any more than the taxicabs and limousines are.

  • DaveS||

    Quincy is a tiny town with 40,000 people. There is absolutely no rational reason for the citizens of Quincy to pay a premium for a bus to run with an average of 3 to 5 people in it?

  • jay||

    While it may seem ridiculous for the law and the city to shut this guy down, here are a few facts about this guy.

    He was given several opportunities to get the proper license to continue to operate, he refused to.

    Not only did he refuse to get the proper licensing, he refused to carry insurance on his vehicles, he was operating 3-4 vehicles.

    He was not just driving drunks home from the bars, he was also shuttling people from Quincy down to the St. Louis Airport.

    He was also picking people up at their homes and taking them bar hopping.

    Just recently, he had a couple of investors into this Courtesy Rides, those investors was in the process of getting the proper licenses, permits and insurance, when this guy started operating again, he was busted in a sting operation last weekend.

    You can think what you want, but this guy is in all reality more dangerous than a drunk driver, he was involved in a hit and run a short while back, really, is this the kind of guy that you would want to get a ride from?

    Just yesterday, the chief of police here in Quincy issued a statement stating that there really is a need for a service for driving drunks home from the bars and night clubs here in Quincy, just not from this guy who continues to break the law.

    There is one cab company in this town, but they stop operating after midnight, and his cabs are Chevrolet Aveo's, but that cab company is a whole different issue alone.

    jay

  • ||

    And your point is...? I still see nothing wrong with his activities; the fact that he has been in accidents may deter me from using his services, but I don't see why others can't be free to risk their lives to do so!

    Indeed: While the Cheif of Police states that "there really is a need for a service for driving drunks home from the bars and night clubs here in Quincy, just not from this guy who continues to break the law", how likely is it that all the regulations involved are precisely the things preventing people from providing this service? How likely is it that a primary reason this individual is providing this service, is because he's willing to ignore the laws involved?

  • ||

    Yes I do agree that these issues should have also been brought to light. It definately would have shed a defirent(SP?)Anyway, Why not bring amirican enterprise into the picture. I can see where this man can see a businessoppurtunity while offering free rides to drunks home also. If he incorp. this then I applaud him. And I Wish other cities and towns should do the the same.

  • ||

    "He was not just driving drunks home from the bars, he was also shuttling people from Quincy down to the St. Louis Airport."

    Good gawd, No!

  • ||

    In the exUSSR it´s common practice if you want a ride to stick your hand out as if hailing a cab and wait for someone to stop. Then if he´s going roughly in the same direction you negotiate a price and destination. A very practical solution to transportation that would have western statists in tears, it´s unsafe because it´s not regulated! Sure, you don´t know if the guy is going to mug you, although if you´re a tourist you´re more likely to get "mugged" by cabbies and have to haggle for an outrageous price. The drivers have licenses, the cars have insurance, but the state isn´t taking a cut. It´s efficient, the guy wont take you if he´s not driving in the same direction, it´s even ecofriendly.
    This is in the exUSSR, where they put up with 70 yrs of commie bullshit.

  • ||

    Further proof that "keeping the people safe" is hardly the priority of any police force in this country.

  • Ann||

    I wonder if they rewrote it in a way that now encompasses carpools and ride sharing. Would taking turns getting our neighbor's and our kids to school now run afoul of the taxi law?

  • Eric Jones||

    In 3rd world countries things are much more "free," in general. This is called "competition." You can take the dirt cheap bus, which is dirty, filled with people, you may have a crate of chickens in the seat next to you, and the thing might break down.... But it is dirt cheap. If you are willing to pay more, you get morel, in the form of a cleaner safer ride. This is called "free choice."

    If the government did what it purported to do (you know, preserving all that mythical "freedom" stuff,) we would have such a choice. When we emerge from the local watering hole, we could decide: do I want to pay $20 for a fast, efficient, comfortable, fairly direct ride, or pay vastly less and take my chances with someone who may be a bit dubious but who will probably get me home safe.

    I, being cheap, as well as a relatively capable male, would probably opt for #2. In a country that is purported to be "free," I should have that choice. In this case, the government is denying that to me.

    Cases like this make me seriously consider expatriation.

  • ||

    Drama queen, eh?

  • Jeric Eons||

    "do I want to pay $20 for a fast, efficient, comfortable, fairly direct ride, or pay vastly less and take my chances with someone who may be a bit dubious but who will probably get me home safe?"

    That is the question now, with the whole picture outlined. Yes, the original intent was to reduce drunk driving, but now that we've dug up more about the man's true nature it should come down to personal choice involving convenience, price, and risk.

  • Drax the Destroyer||

    Used Douche, eh?

  • stvnscott||

    When liberals run the farm, it quickly becomes a funny farm.

  • seventullay||

    Hopefully the drunks rise up in outrage.

  • Ink||

    He should have just said he was starting a taxi or shuttle service and charged less than half of the competitors. Then he'd make money, he'd be in the clear legally and everyone would still use his service over other cabs.

    As a side note, I work as a Valet, and I HATE cabbies. They'll park anywhere, in the middle of the street and hold up traffic. You have to yell and scream at them to move, so I don't care what happens to them.

  • ||

    "He should have just said he was starting a taxi or shuttle service and charged less than half of the competitors. Then he'd make money, he'd be in the clear legally and everyone would still use his service over other cabs."

    Not necessarily. Cab fares are probably regulated, too. So he'd probably be forced to charge the same rate as the cabbies who can't be bothered to operate past midnight.

  • ||

    that's why when im drunk and in a cab i leave a lil present in the back for em to clean up later. They're rude and 98% of the stink of curry or some other "exotic" spice.

  • ||

    JUST PATHETIC.

  • Phil||

    I do not see the problem, the man (Jonathon Schoenakase) has a clear defense he was not carrying passengers. A passenger is a paying customer, this man was carrying freeloaders, as no charge was placed on the ride. Passenger and Freeloader great legal fictions, just like the state.

  • ||

    Damn Hadjis....Thank you, cab again!

  • ||

    The allmighty dollar now even dictates how your going to cheat death. A drunk paying for a taxi, and maybe deciding to save a dollar and drive himself, or calling for a free front door, sleepfull ride,safe. Tell this gentleman that offers theses rides to get a church/deacon/preacher on board. Or even submit as an organazation

  • Adam||

    this is what's wrong with the world today. arrest the guy that's saving lives...

  • ||

    Mr "Citizen of Quincy" wants all of us to know that "we don't know all the facts," & the only facts he's willing to share are negative facts about Mr Jonathon Schoenakase... i.e. "Ex-Con that keeps breaking the law..." Makes me wonder what the agenda is of Citizen of Quincy. Is it to bring lite to all of us dummies who can see with our own two eyes, & our brain whats going on in Quincy? Or could the agenda be to distort facts as to direct attention away from the real problem in Quincy.. i.e. Money corrupts city council, & police dept. Which dept do we think Citizen of Quincy works for?

    I won't bother repeating what several have already said here in comments. I'm actually impressed with some of the comments I've read here.

    The next DUI Murder in or around Quincy, I think the Police Chief & the city council should carry to blame when its found out that the drunk didn't have enough money to take a taxi, & would have used Jonathon's service if the City wasn't harassing him, & blackmailing him into conforming to the taxi industry's demands after they pay off city council members to do their dirty work. MADD, & other organizations have done the somethings without this crap, & I think giving to this guys cause is the absolutely RIGHT thing to do.

  • ||

    My family was hit by a drunk driver and I could have lost my wife and three boys. If a drunk driver hits a police officer while they're arresting Jonathon Schoenakase, Then What?
    Drunk Drivers Don't Pick Who They Kill!

  • OWN-the-NWO||

    It's time to throw the reigns of these filthy scavengers off our backs.

  • TimedWork||

    This whole issue poses an interesting hypothetical: If prostitution is ever legalized, and subsequently licensed, would a spouse be in breach of the law for offering services for other considerations and would a tax be due the IRS for the value of the barter exchange? This whole affair seems to be much in need of looking before leaping.
    But then, that’s precisely how we ended up with a man in the White House with no past accomplishments, written works or job history that could justify his placement. A 2001 radio interview where he denounces the constitution should have had quite the opposite effect. Looking before leaping is what we don’t do very well. Had a Board of Directors for a publicly held corporation done just that e.g., place someone in control of the company with no demonstrable experience to justify the placement, the share holders would have a likely case for malfeasance on the part of the Board and the SEC would likely take them to task as well.

  • ||

    I was a taxi driver about 7 years ago - when I first started, there were 3 taxi companies in town. . . in a couple of months, 1 company had been shut down, a few months later, they came after us - using false testimony. . . the "investigators" said that we didn't have insurance, even though I had read (and we had sent them) a copy of the letter from our insurance company stating that we DID, in fact, have insurance. . . after they shut us down, we switched to a free rides for drunks service. . . and the police came after me one night - I outsmarted them, though. . . I used the same log sheet I used as a taxi, and got every one of my riders to sign it, that I didn't charge them for a ride - the cops were so pissed that they couldn't bust me. . . so the City Council changed the rules, much like in this case, to prevent us from offering free rides. . .

    Interestingly enough, it turned out that some of the investors running the sole remaining taxi company had friends on the City Council. . .

  • Nyc Labrets||

    In the mid Aughts was a 7 person Conference/Party Bike Pilot in NYC's Times Square.

    They were insanely popular with the tourists that infested that Disneyfied area, I made some quick bucks, but somehow Don Domite, the owner of about a dozen of these bikes got on the wrong side of the NYPD, almost from Day One.

    After a 2 year campaign of harassment, where hundreds of bogus traffic tickets were issued, scores of the bikes were confiscated and impounded, and my fellow Pilots were arrested on the most trumped up of charges.

    http://bikeblog.blogspot.com/2.....inues.html

    Then NYC's City Hall turned it up a notch.

    Along with the regulating of the Times Square Pedicabs, a Rider in the Law BANNED the Party Bikes from *all* NYC Roads.

    Don never got to see that.

    He died two weeks after giving testimony at City Hall when the Law was being debated.

    You can't fight City Hall.

    Here in Munich, where I now live, Party Bikes are a legitimate business and none of this shit happens to them.

  • ||

    I would like to say before they start talking about this guys past, remember it was hos past and he paid his debt to society and regards to the so called hit and run, he hit a deer and a tree and had to walk to get reception for his phone what the sity is not telling you is the charge is being dropped either a lesser charge or dropped completely. This guy needs to be commended for the service he is providing and the reason he will not get the license is because he feels the law is unconstitutional and wants to fight the law in the state supreme court to make the city of Quincy look like the fools they are.

    DON'T VISIT QUINCY FOR VACATION...CAUSE YOU'LL GO HOME BEING ON PROBATION...

  • ||

    I'll bet someone on the city payroll has a relative in the taxi business.That's the way it is in Quincy and the state in general.

  • ||

    The whole damned city is corrupt and the leader of the band is Boomberry (sic) Where is Guliani when you need him?

  • Kieran Mullen||

    http://www.quincyil.gov/Mayor/contact.htm

  • دردشة||

    thanks

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