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Gwen Ifill: I Did Not Know "Teabagging" Meant Sexytime
After I appeared on a PBS panel about Tea Party racism last week, some commenters here wondered why I didn't object to moderator Gwen Ifill's use of the term "teabaggers" (answer: I didn't even notice it, such is the general filth-content of my brain). Anyway, PBS Ombudsman Michael Getler says the Corporation received a lot of complaints, and Ifill has now apologized:
Ombudsman's Note: Ifill says, "Turns out I am the only person with access to email who never knew this was a term with a sexual meaning. I used it in an offhand manner as a shorthand referring to the 'tea party' movement. It was a slip I was unaware of, and I regret it." I would add that I didn't know that either.
As usual, I sincerely hope that Tea Partiers decide to wholeheartedly embrace the term rather than adding still more gross national product to the anti-defamation industry, but the trend lines suggest otherwise.
Link via Romenesko.
Abdul|9.22.09 @ 12:11PM|#
The poor Reason intern who had to do a Google image search on
"teabagging" finally came through with a winner after viewing
thirty pages of gay porn.
He (or she) paid the ultimate price for libertarian journalism.
|9.22.09 @ 12:13PM|#
Gwen Ifil is a horrible, horrible person. She even wrote a book
about Obama (reverse racist hagiographic CRAP)!
BOYCOTT PBS!!!
|9.22.09 @ 12:14PM|#
Matt and Nick are the biggest proponents of the practice on the
Reason staff, but only because Drew Carey is an
independent contractor.
Although "Peter Bagge" might actually be the screen name of an
amateur video star who excels at the practice.
|9.22.09 @ 12:14PM|#
Wasn't Gwen Ifill under fire for moderating some presidential
debate? I can't remember the details, nor be bothered to look them
up.
Oh, wait, PRMP put them in his/her post (which I skipped over due
to the author).
Tony|9.22.09 @ 12:16PM|#
I sincerely hope that Tea Partiers decide to wholeheartedly embrace the term
Not so sure about this strategy, but then again yankee doodle
sounds even worse and it worked.
|9.22.09 @ 12:21PM|#
Matt, how could you not know what "teabagging" meant? Christ,
we've probably mentioned it about 1000 times on these forums.
Mac: You put your balls in my mouth while I was sleeping?
Dennis: Yeah, man. Twice.
Mac: That's rape! That is borderline rape!
|9.22.09 @ 12:22PM|#
TEABAGGING YOU FOR FREEDOM!
YOU TEABAGING FOR FREEDOM?
FREEDOM FOR TEABAGGING YOU!
YOU FOR TEABAGGING FREEDOM?
Matt Welch|9.22.09 @ 12:22PM|#
Matt, how could you not know what "teabagging" meant?
Christ, we've probably mentioned it about 1000 times on these
forums.
Is it not clear that the excerpted text is excerpted text? I've
known about teabagging ever since ... uh, Moynihan told me about
it?
DADIODADDY|9.22.09 @ 12:25PM|#
BULLSHIT, of course she knew what the term refered to. All part of the general degradation of civil discousre, and the apology was backpedaling when she got called on it.
|9.22.09 @ 12:26PM|#
I didn't even notice it, such is the general filth-content
of my brain
Whoops, sorry Matt. I misinterpreted the above part at first. Of
course you know about teabagging, from your time working
in that Turkish harem.
robc|9.22.09 @ 12:32PM|#
PBS Ombudsman Michael Getler needs to spend more time on 4chan so that he is aware of the full array of dirty references.
|9.22.09 @ 12:32PM|#
Warty, you worked with Matt in Turkey, right? But you're more of a gorilla masker.
Art-P.O.G.|9.22.09 @ 12:33PM|#
I don't know, she's 50. When did that term become popular? It's
possible her generation didn't use it growing up.
Whatever the case, don't let those teabags steep unless you're
makin' that consensual tea.
JB|9.22.09 @ 12:34PM|#
As soon as Obama embraces the term 'cunt' to describe himself, then that's when Tea Party folks should embrace the term.
|9.22.09 @ 12:35PM|#
Ifill is no doubt a liar. I have noticed black callers to cspan and local radio have gotten the memo and use the teabagging term every chance they get. It is beginning to wee wee me up.
|9.22.09 @ 12:37PM|#
John-David,
joe | October 3, 2008, 10:36am | #
If Gwin Ifill has an appearance of impropriety for writing about a politician running for president this year, we have to exclude every political journalist in America on the same grounds.
That's nuts.
Beware. It is a particularly stomach turning
performance.
T|9.22.09 @ 12:38PM|#
PBS Ombudsman Michael Getler needs to spend more time on
4chan so that he is aware of the full array of dirty
references.
I'm reasonably certain 4chan violates all kind of NPR policies if
viewed at work.
The White Devil|9.22.09 @ 12:40PM|#
If the consevatives are teabaggers, doesn't that make the liberals "teabagees?
anon|9.22.09 @ 12:41PM|#
So this means that Ifill is completely unaware of the derisive way the MSM has been covering the movement. Unsurprising.
|9.22.09 @ 12:43PM|#
The term has been common at least since Sex and the City. I think Gwen's just trying to throw us off the scent of her huge crush on SJP.
Zeb|9.22.09 @ 12:44PM|#
"Ifill is no doubt a liar. I have noticed black callers to cspan
and local radio have gotten the memo and use the teabagging term
every chance they get."
So, other black people know what the term means, therefore she must
also?
I see no reason to disbelieve her. At the very least, I think that
there is room for some doubt that she is a liar.
|9.22.09 @ 12:44PM|#
I sent Gwen an email to let her know to add "pearl necklace" and "snowballing" to the listen of terms to avoid. I marked it as urgent, just in case.
Tony|9.22.09 @ 12:45PM|#
Wasn't Gwen Ifill under fire for moderating some presidential debate?
Yes she was the focus of one of a neverending supply of right-wing
tantrums.
Tricky Prickears|9.22.09 @ 12:47PM|#
Wow. I figured her for a John Waters fan.
Somebody please forward this to Ms Ifill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi9hgqZr6fs
|9.22.09 @ 12:49PM|#
I think Ifill didn't know what the term means, but still understood it to be an insult and used it anyway. She's a professional journalist and it doesn't take a PhD in nuance to understand that Maddow and the rest say it with a sneer.
|9.22.09 @ 12:49PM|#
Zeb, I suspect she's working from the same playbook that all of the other organized supporters of Obama are working from, the morning memo.
T|9.22.09 @ 12:50PM|#
I think Ifill didn't know what the term means, but still
understood it to be an insult and used it anyway.
I'll agree with that. She doesn't get the insult, but used it
anyway because everyone around her is using it.
Abdul|9.22.09 @ 12:51PM|#
Both the ombudsman and Ifill didn't know what "teabagging" was. Proof, as if it were needed, that PBS has it's finger on the pulse of disconnected eggheads.
Suki|9.22.09 @ 12:54PM|#
Remember 10/03/08, never forget.
In other news, Omamuhammad is meeting with the terrorists and
Israel to get the latter to march into the sea.
|9.22.09 @ 12:54PM|#
How many times is this gonna come up before someone points out that the "teabagger" term was devised by the throwers of the first 2008 tea party events - namely, Ron Paul fans? They kept referring to themselves as teabaggers, teabagging people for Ron Paul. Then the likes of Wonkette picked it up and ran with it, and it got generalized to anyone throwing a tea party. But acting like it's a nefarious scheme invented by the liberal media is disingenuous.
|9.22.09 @ 12:56PM|#
We need to introduce Gwen to various other terms, such as "Spacedocking", "Hot Carl", etc. The more she uses those on NPR, the more chance I'll listen to it.
Ska|9.22.09 @ 12:57PM|#
I'm not sure why calling someone a teabagger is that offensive. Who doesn't like to place their balls into someone's mouth when the occasion dictates?
|9.22.09 @ 1:02PM|#
"Is it not clear that the excerpted text is excerpted text? I've
known about teabagging ever since ... uh, Moynihan told me about
it?"
Told you about it or demonstrated it? Not that there is anything
wrong with that.
|9.22.09 @ 1:03PM|#
Ska,
Context is everything. For example, if I call Warty a grannyfister,
the audience here knows that it's just a humorous observation about
a sexual perversion he is obsessed with. But if I call Ifill a
grannyfister, not know anything about her sexual proclivities, it
becomes an insult.
As to the offensive part, the Maddow and company smirk is probably
based on thinking that the "teabaggers" are admitting to a gay sex
act, rather than a video game "pwning" finishing move.
Counter-productive for gay acceptance to make heterosexist jokes,
don't you think?
Art-P.O.G.|9.22.09 @ 1:03PM|#
SF,
true, and Maddow was practically dripping with heterophobia when
she said "teabagger".
Episiarch,
Damn right! And she should issue a different apology after every
show.
Art-P.O.G.|9.22.09 @ 1:06PM|#
SugarFree,
I interpreted Maddow's comments as anti-scrotum. I mean,
aesthetically speaking I can't blame her, but her comments seem
rather misandrist to me.
JB|9.22.09 @ 1:10PM|#
a gay sex act
There is probably more straight tea-bagging going on than gay
tea-bagging. Gays only make up a small portion of the population
whereas sexually liberated women are much more common now that this
latest generation is fully immersed in porn.
|9.22.09 @ 1:15PM|#
Ifill says, "Turns out I am the only person with access to
email who never knew this was a term with a sexual
meaning.
Bull. Shit.
I don't believe her for an instant. She's not some Mormon from a
commune in the hills. She is a sophisticated urban elite woman. No
frickin' way she and her buddies weren't giggling over
"teabagger."
Ska|9.22.09 @ 1:17PM|#
Very insightful rsponses.
I suggest that Ifil use Martyrdom for Perk 3 - it'll clear the room
of any mindless teabaggers (or get her an extra kill or 2). If
she's still playing Halo 3 (what a n00b), then there's really
nothing that can save her.
|9.22.09 @ 1:19PM|#
I have no insight into the demographics of teabagging.
But...
If it is being used as a man on woman act, where's the insult? And
if it is not meant as an insult, why the smirk?
|9.22.09 @ 1:19PM|#
Maddow was practically dripping with heterophobia when she
said "teabagger".
It's just because (at least, to my knowledge) no one has yet coined
an analogous term for the corresponding lesbian sex act.
Stretched-out, wrinkly labia need to be dangled in (consenting)
mouths too, dammit.
|9.22.09 @ 1:23PM|#
It's just because (at least, to my knowledge) no one has yet
coined an analogous term for the corresponding lesbian sex
act
I hereby name that act: Jellyfishing.
Teabagger\'s Ball|9.22.09 @ 1:23PM|#
I'm not buying it at all. I saw the interview with Matt. When
Ifill said "teabaggers" her micro-expression said tee hee with a
dirty little smile.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rss/redir/http://newshour-tc.pbs.org/newshour/rss/media/2009/09/16/20090916_race.mp3
Suki|9.22.09 @ 1:25PM|#
If it is being used as a man on woman act, where's the
insult? And if it is not meant as an insult, why the
smirk?
[Suki shaking fist at SF for discovering Feministing and
my channeling it]
Because it puts the inferior, oppressive male in the dominant
position!
[/Suki shaking fist at SF for discovering Feministing and
my channeling it]
Teabagger\'s Ball|9.22.09 @ 1:25PM|#
Streaming Video here:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/images/primary/icons/btn_sv_o.gif
|9.22.09 @ 1:26PM|#
"I hereby name that act: Jellyfishing."
No No No. The proper name is "Clam Digging"
|9.22.09 @ 1:27PM|#
While there is a sexual position called the Jellyfish, the act
looks nothing like a jellyfish.
Site NSFW.
In the comments of that page:
I'm a 5'7 female in my late twenties and I have a pretty nice body, though it's still a bit out of shape and I have extra weight, especially around my stomach. I'm very self-conscious about this and it keeps me from relaxing and enjoying sex more. I've been generally conservative in the bedroom so far, but lately I'm really getting into experimenting more the older I get. I get hot very easily now and I want to just "let go" about some things, but I can't help but feel unattractive and gross when considering a lot of these positions. Outside of working out more(which I am doing) what can you say to make a woman feel more at ease with an imperfect body during sex? How much of a turn-off is extra tummy weight? Or a nice but relatively untoned body?
|9.22.09 @ 1:29PM|#
But John, "digging" doesn't conjure the dangling, distended
labia like the jellyfish does.
Beside, clam digging is when a chick has a yeast infection and
keeps scratching in public.
John Wilkes|9.22.09 @ 1:31PM|#
I sincerely hope that Tea Partiers decide to wholeheartedly
embrace the term rather than adding still more gross national
product to the anti-defamation industry
That will depend, my Lord, on whether I embrace your principles or
your mistress.
Suki|9.22.09 @ 1:33PM|#
How much of a turn-off is extra tummy weight? Or a nice but
relatively untoned body?
If she wants to be a Domme it could work to her advantage.
Art-P.O.G.|9.22.09 @ 1:33PM|#
There's a clear nautical theme happening here. "Oyster Sucking" is pretty good, John.
|9.22.09 @ 1:33PM|#
I used to visit Reason on a regular basis until it became
evident from "comments" that the readership had devolved into a
bunch of 16 year old boys, more interested in politics than their
high school peers but still immature. Every once in a while I drop
by to see if anything has changed.
Nope.
|9.22.09 @ 1:35PM|#
Better, but it still doesn't imply the dangling aspect. You
could oyster suck in almost any position.
Also...
A 41-year-old man was arrested on Monday at at Madeira Beach after witnesses said he repeatedly pretended to drown, then allegedly began tossing jellyfish at nearby teenagers. According to a sheriff's office report, Keith Edward Marriott caused "concern for his safety" when he repeatedly submerged himself and floated back to the top of the water. He was also "loud and disruptive."
He then started throwing the sea creatures.
Art-P.O.G.|9.22.09 @ 1:36PM|#
Mandy Cat, you're not gonna cancel your subscription are
you?
Anyway, my vocabulary's way bigger than it was when I was 16.
:P
Bigg Blakk Dikk|9.22.09 @ 1:37PM|#
Hey Mandy Cat. I just finished with your mother. You'll need to wash her.
|9.22.09 @ 1:38PM|#
But isn't mopping more of a rubbing action than a dipping action? But I guess there is the repeated bucket plunging and wet slopping sounds...
|9.22.09 @ 1:38PM|#
I'd third oyster sucking, but it might turn Mandy off. Will she ever realize all men are sixteen year old boys?
|9.22.09 @ 1:39PM|#
Anyway, my vocabulary's way bigger than it was when I was
16.
So you military guys call it your "vocabulary?" Your deployment
patois frightens and intrigues me.
Art-P.O.G.|9.22.09 @ 1:39PM|#
SugarFree,
That article is a perfect example of how the most awesome people
are often the worst role models.
|9.22.09 @ 1:42PM|#
Guys, we should totally be serious in a thread about teabagging. There's nothing funny about teabagging. Nothing at all.
Art-P.O.G.|9.22.09 @ 1:44PM|#
So you military guys call it your "vocabulary?" Your deployment patois frightens and intrigues me.
Good one :p
Anyway, I don't get Mandy Cat. It would seem obvious from the
teabaggin' theme of the article that the comment section wouldn't
be a appropriate for genteel women of delicate disposition. And
what James Ard said.
Suki|9.22.09 @ 1:49PM|#
Guys, we should totally be serious in a thread about
teabagging. There's nothing funny about teabagging. Nothing at
all.
Why does that remind me of that artist during the election who
could not believe a guy named Barrack Obama was running for
president?
|9.22.09 @ 1:50PM|#
Xeones,
She'll read your comment when the smelling salts kick it.
Right now the vapors have laid her out on the divan.
|9.22.09 @ 1:51PM|#
I am sure she will give the girls at Feministing a full report after she has recovered.
alan|9.22.09 @ 1:56PM|#
Hey Mandy, bend over for me, will ya? That's it, now loosen up the pucker. This will only take a second. You are doing great. There we've got it. Wanna keep the stick?
Cap\'n NoStar|9.22.09 @ 2:14PM|#
Ifill is Awful, but I believe she didn't know about Teabagging's sexual connotation. After all, she works for PBS where being insulated from truth and reality is a necessary condition for continued employment.
|9.22.09 @ 2:18PM|#
Mandy Cat,
I find the level of discourse on this blog to be slightly more
honest than that of a PBS panel on tea party racism even if it is a
little more direct in its vulgarisms.
Anomalous|9.22.09 @ 2:30PM|#
If Ifill were in western Pennsylvania, she would order a Pittsburgh Platter because she didn't know any better.
Jim Treacher|9.22.09 @ 2:30PM|#
I certainly don't mind all these progressive-minded people outing themselves as teabaggees.
Ska|9.22.09 @ 2:31PM|#
OK - in order to keep the seafood flavor alive with our name search, I present rollmops.
|9.22.09 @ 2:34PM|#
Ska,
Best part of link:
In pubs in Old Berlin, it was common to have high-rising glass display cases (Hungerturm, meaning "hunger tower") on the bar to present ready-to-eat dishes like lard bread, salt eggs, meatballs, mettwurst (bacon sausage) and of course rollmops.
"Hunger tower" is just an awesome term.
Jim Treacher|9.22.09 @ 2:38PM|#
Yes she was the focus of one of a neverending supply of right-wing tantrums.
She moderated a debate that included somebody she was writing a
book about, you teabaggee.
|9.22.09 @ 2:44PM|#
Tacobagging:
The act of placing a vagina on someone's face while they're
asleep/passed out. Teabagging with a vagina and not a nutsack
While Tim was in a drunk coma, Brii started tacobagging him after
watching the other guys teabag him repeatedly
Ska|9.22.09 @ 2:44PM|#
I also appreciated Katerfrühstück (hangover breakfast).
Any language that has a word for hangover breakfast is a-ok with
me.
And no one who speaks German could be a bad man.
Xeones|9.22.09 @ 2:48PM|#
And no one who speaks German could be a bad man.
You shouldn't even joke about that, Ska.
After all, i believe Warty is conversational in Deutsch.
Tony|9.22.09 @ 2:57PM|#
She moderated a debate that included somebody she was writing a book about, you teabaggee.
Which was she writing a book about, Joe Biden or Sarah Palin?
Jim Treacher|9.22.09 @ 2:59PM|#
Which was she writing a book about, Joe Biden or Sarah Palin?
If you don't know which one is Barack Obama's Vice President,
you're even more of a teabaggee than we thought.
Big Racism|9.22.09 @ 3:09PM|#
"Which was she writing a book about, Joe Biden or Sarah
Palin?"
Obama you stupid teabagee.
The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama
http://www.amazon.com/Breakthrough-Politics-Race-Age-Obama/dp/0767928903/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253646514&sr=1-1&tag=reasonmagazineA
|9.22.09 @ 3:16PM|#
Jim Treacher, are you suggesting the Gwen Ifill might have a bias toward the running mate of a man she wrote a hagiography of? Shocking. I am shocked, I say!
T|9.22.09 @ 3:30PM|#
I'll let you know at my auto de fé.
I'm bringing hot dogs. Who wants to bring the s'mores fixins?
Tony|9.22.09 @ 3:32PM|#
If not for that biased Gwen Ifill, Sarah Palin wouldn't have looked like such a crazy dumbass bitch!
|9.22.09 @ 3:33PM|#
I expect you all to partake of my roasted flesh. Save my giant cock for Episiarch... He's been obsessed with it so long, it'd be a shame for him to miss out.
|9.22.09 @ 3:38PM|#
Yeah, and Don Imus claimed to no avail he didn't know about the racial connotations of "nappy-headed" after he got caught too. Somehow I suspect ignorance will be accepted as a defense in this case, though.
|9.22.09 @ 3:40PM|#
Haven't read any of the comments yet, but I'm guessing this is the funniest thread of the day.
Straight Tea Party Supporter|9.22.09 @ 3:46PM|#
As usual, I sincerely hope that Tea Partiers decide to wholeheartedly embrace the term rather than adding still more gross national product to the anti-defamation industry, but the trend lines suggest otherwise.
Actually, I haven't seen so much outrage as just line-drawing. If
somebody uses the term in an op-ed, we immediately know which side
they're on. Case in point: Kathleen Parker used the term.
Commenters immediately replied: "Ah ha! We always knew you were
fellating 0bama, you RINO whore!" (She was already unpopular,
though--mostly for verbally fellating 0bama for several months
during and after the election.)
If you say "tea partiers" or some variation thereof, you're
presumed sympathetic.
If you say "teabaggers" or some variation thereof, you're presumed
hostile.
Simple as that.
hmm|9.22.09 @ 3:47PM|#
There's a market for old people in "I got Teabagged" shirts.
Or:
It moves I'll (tea)bag it.
PWND and TEABAGGED
Noobs will be teabagged.
Teabag Obama.
Obama wiggle dunked my purple bulldog cheeks and all I got was this
t-shirt.
|9.22.09 @ 3:53PM|#
I encountered this message in a bathroom stall off the 540 scenic loop just north of Fort Smitth Arkansas last Friday. Just wondering which one of you is responsible for this. And the wife was wondering why I went back to the bathroom with my camera...
T|9.22.09 @ 4:06PM|#
Try the cock, T. It's a delicacy.
And you know where it's been.
And that's why I'm declining. I know too much.
|9.22.09 @ 4:09PM|#
And you know where it's been.
Deadwood had a great line: "He's been pickling his prick
in the cunt brine of another."
I always think of that when I eat chicken salad for some
reason.
T|9.22.09 @ 4:13PM|#
Deadwood had a great line: "He's been pickling his prick in
the cunt brine of another."
I always think of that when I eat chicken salad for some
reason.
More evidence, as if more were needed, that you are a deeply
twisted individual.
And I say that with the utmost respect.
tekende|9.22.09 @ 4:16PM|#
As to why "teabagging" is used as an insult by Maddow and the
like...they assume (rightly in many cases, I'm sure) that the
protestors, since they are mostly middle-aged and older white
right-wing people, are (or were, at any rate, before use of the
word became a matter of debate) unaware that "teabagging" has any
sort of sexual connotations. So the sight of right-wing protestors
willingly if inadvertently using a sexual term to refer to
themselves is the height of hilarity to liberals, who like to
believe that supporters of the right are completely out of touch
with mainstream society.
That's why they continue to use it in an insulting manner, and why
Maddow makes that stupid face every time she says it.
|9.22.09 @ 4:25PM|#
As to the offensive part, the Maddow and company smirk is
probably based on thinking that the "teabaggers" are admitting to a
gay sex act
Umm, I thought hetero women could and did teabag, if they are
particularly ... likeable?
It ain't just a gay thing.
Sean W. Malone|9.22.09 @ 4:58PM|#
Personally, the Red vs. Blue reference (picture) in the article
is how I'd always originally heard of teabagging, not as a "sexual"
act, per se, but rather as the kind of insult one plays on drunk
compatriots at frat parties.
Also, I submit, Pure
Pwnage.
Ben|9.22.09 @ 5:33PM|#
I've assumed that when leftists use the term "teabagging" to describe tea partyiers they did so because they find it funny while reminding them why they only wish they could engage ni some hot and heavy teabagging. after all leftists are notoriously for psychological projection when it comes to their opponents.
|9.22.09 @ 5:33PM|#
It has been a fun ride...i mean Gwen Iffil said "Teabag". Can't
get better then that.
but rather as the kind of insult one plays on drunk compatriots
at frat parties.
My understanding of it blossomed from playing a mutliplayer version
of castle wolfenstein and it is an insult you do to the corpse of
another player's avatar after you kill them.
Since then I have seen this in various other multiplayer games.
|9.22.09 @ 5:48PM|#
My understanding of it blossomed from playing a mutliplayer
version of castle wolfenstein and it is an insult you do to the
corpse of another player's avatar after you kill them.
I should note that to t-bag someone is a display of dominance. Not
only to humiliate the player you just killed but to show you are so
good at this game that you can take the risk of repeatedly sitting
on your opponent's face and expose yourself to attack from other
players.
|9.22.09 @ 5:58PM|#
Here are some examples of video game t-bagging
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ3xn0P2xMg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYvtymo68ds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRuwylnmyjg&feature=related
Jim Treacher|9.22.09 @ 5:59PM|#
If not for that biased Gwen Ifill, Sarah Palin wouldn't have looked like such a crazy dumbass bitch!
You should yell more, teabaggee.
Sean W. Malone|9.22.09 @ 6:13PM|#
Josh - I was referencing video game t-bagging... go watch Pure Pwnage ;)
|9.22.09 @ 6:37PM|#
I was referencing video game t-bagging... go watch Pure Pwnage
;)
Ummm no you didn't, you wrote "but rather as the kind of insult one
plays on drunk compatriots at frat parties." and Pure Pwnage is
unwatchable and unfunny and explains absolutely nothing about
t-baging.
Do you work for them or something?
hmm|9.22.09 @ 6:44PM|#
Uh, sean has been referencing games all along. Starting with RvB or halo reference to CW pvp. First time I remember t-bagging people was EQ late 99 when zeks went live.
Jim Treacher|9.22.09 @ 6:46PM|#
Dear Videogame Nerds:
You did not invent the practice of dipping one's balls in a
person's mouth.
Thanks in advance for shutting up,
The Rest of Us
Sean W. Malone|9.22.09 @ 6:50PM|#
"Ummm no you didn't"
Umm... Yes I did. Go actually visit the damn links I posted.
I also note that the behavior is an insulting fratboy gag, not
necessarily as a sexual thing. Fratboy gag + video game = EXACTLY
what I was saying.
hmm|9.22.09 @ 6:55PM|#
No one claimed the invention, the popularity in pop culture on the other hand is due almost solely to video games, and PvP based MMOs.
Jim Treacher|9.22.09 @ 7:03PM|#
No one claimed the invention, the popularity in pop culture on the other hand is due almost solely to video games, and PvP based MMOs.
The idea of any sexual practice being popularized by gamers is
plausible only to gamers.
Sean W. Malone|9.22.09 @ 7:31PM|#
Jim... The *point* I made was that while it might be sexually appealing to a minute fraction of the human population, the main use I'd ever heard of it in relation to was as an insult...
hmm|9.22.09 @ 7:57PM|#
The idea of any sexual practice being popularized by gamers
is plausible only to gamers.
Not really. But if you think so it's okay.
Memes are generated faster than ever with the internet, and the
meme of teabagging took hold primarily through gaming. Just like
there were lolcats in early history, the concept reached an
entirely new height in recent years. Of course you can always play
the, "THEY DID IT FIRST." card. But I'm hoping we can avoid that
level of silliness.
PS. The condescension toward gaming and those who play is a little
silly as well, but heh nerds have been ridiculed for a while. At
least we don't have to carry around funny looking dice now.
Jim Treacher|9.22.09 @ 8:09PM|#
But if you think so it's okay.
Is it? Well gosh.
Memes are generated faster than ever with the internet, and the meme of teabagging took hold primarily through gaming.
Yes, I'm sure that's how Anderson Cooper found out about it.
hmm|9.22.09 @ 8:39PM|#
Have you asked him? Until then your assumption really doesn't
carry much weight.
I'll take the view that there are at least 10 million people
estimated to be playing or have played just one MMO where this
practice of virtual teabagging has been common. Just one MMO of
many. Of course, it could always be blamed on the /b tards. They
can be blamed for everything.
I like how you picked the gay guy to make the point. That wasn't
convenient or anything. The sexual connotation has always been
present, after all it is a sexual act. But up until this summer if
you googled teabagging you got page after page of gaming references
with a smattering of college humor style pranks. I guess the gay
guys didn't talk about it much back then.
I'll credit the meme to gaming. Now to figure out who to pin
lolcats on.
Jim Treacher|9.22.09 @ 8:46PM|#
"Can you prove people DIDN'T find out about ballsack-dipping through videogames?" You should probably try to be more indignant.
Jim Treacher|9.22.09 @ 8:47PM|#
I like how you picked the gay guy to make the point. That wasn't
convenient or anything.
Considering he's the one who went on his newscast with it, yeah.
But he probably got it from Halo.
hmm|9.22.09 @ 9:12PM|#
You can match that 10 million plus number to most studies
putting gamers as a percentage of the US population from 50% to
65%. Some countries like South Korea are higher.
I can bring more to the table than Anderson Cooper is gay and
probably doesn't play video games. You know, like anecdotal
evidence such as Google hits, percentages of gamers, numbers of
people playing games.
You should probably try to be more indignant.
I could be, but what's the point. All you bring to the table is
some weak connection between a gay reporter and relatively snide
comments.
Considering he's the one who went on his newscast with it, yeah. But he probably got it from Halo.
I'm pretty sure more than one blog picked up on the connection
before MSNBC. I think Olberman beat Cooper to the punch as
well.
For the record I didn't say Cooper got the slang from gaming. I
even acknowledge that he might not have. So can we just let that
strawman stay out in the field?
The meme was created or pushed into pop culture through gaming, and
now the tea parties. I won't dispute the current push is greater in
scope than the former. But the meme existed in mass prior to its
current form.
You seem to be awfully anti-gamer. Did you get pwned like a noob
and teabaged in Halo or another MMO?
hmm|9.22.09 @ 9:31PM|#
I'm only touchy when teabagging newbs.
And I haven't actually played anything in years.
hmm|9.22.09 @ 9:53PM|#
Try girls.
Why? Maybe I like bagging noobs. Who says girls can't be noobs?
Does it matter if noobs are male or female? Do I detect a hint of
homophobia, or is it just an assumption that gamers are all fat
guys living in their mom's basement who can't get girls.
Either way, and to quote another meme.
Epic Fail.
and
/teabag
congratulations. You may be the first person to get pwned and
teabagged in the Reason comment section.
Jim Treacher|9.22.09 @ 9:54PM|#
You may be the first person to get pwned and teabagged in the Reason comment section.
You're definitely the first person to make such an assertion as if
you've got something to be proud about.
hmm|9.22.09 @ 10:01PM|#
I'm always proud when I teabag someone. After all it is seen as
as sign of dominance.
At least it was more of a gaming oriented teabagging and not a more
Anderson Cooper oriented teabagging. I assume you prefer the former
based on your "try girls" comment.
You missed your saving roll by that much.
hmm|9.22.09 @ 10:11PM|#
Kind of, except it's babble with more teabagging. Well, there's
also more content than shitty analogies and strawmen, but that
really isn't too important.
Your responses are getting more and more non sequitur in nature.
Are you trolling me?
Jim Treacher|9.22.09 @ 10:13PM|#
Well, there's also more content than shitty analogies and strawmen
When do you start?
JB|9.22.09 @ 10:31PM|#
Jim... The *point* I made was that while it might be
sexually appealing to a minute fraction of the human population,
the main use I'd ever heard of it in relation to was as an
insult...
How many men have you actually talked to who don't like getting
their balls sucked? I have tons of males friends and I can't
imagine one of them saying 'having my balls sucked is gross!! icky,
icky coodies!'
I wouldn't project whatever prudish issues you have onto other
people.
hmm|9.22.09 @ 10:36PM|#
I don't think that was necessarily what he was getting at. I'm
seeing a different context there than prude.
For the record I haven't asked any of my male friends if they like
having their nuts sucked. I just can't come up with a good segue
into the conversation.
Jim Treacher|9.22.09 @ 10:38PM|#
For the record I haven't asked any of my male friends if they like having their nuts sucked. I just can't come up with a good segue into the conversation.
Just look up and smile.
hmm|9.22.09 @ 10:43PM|#
Why would I hurry? I already pwned and and bagged you. Hurrying would be like running to the car after winning a marathon. Remember the silly Cooper analogy and strawman you threw out.
hmm|9.22.09 @ 10:46PM|#
Just look up and smile.
How would I smile with nuts in my mouth? Again with the homophobia.
Maybe I like nuts in my mouth? Is that a bad thing?
You aren't very good at this. Dare I say you suck at it.
Jim Treacher|9.22.09 @ 11:36PM|#
How would I smile with nuts in my mouth?
You'll get the hang of it.
Art-P.O.G.|9.23.09 @ 1:07AM|#
So now the female protesters can start calling themselves rollmoppers.
Suki|9.23.09 @ 9:54PM|#
So now the female protesters can start calling themselves
rollmoppers.
Not I but I doth protest too little.
|9.24.09 @ 4:59PM|#
I had a similar reaction when I heard a commentator refer to the
"fisting" of the President and First Lady. Turns out they were just
fist-bumping.
Don't journalists watch the same pornography we do?
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