Damon W. Root | August 20, 2009
As Jacob Sullum has previously discussed, the Supreme Court heard arguments last term in the case of Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission. At issue was the 90-minute documentary Hillary: The Movie, which was produced by the conservative group Citizens United and intended for distribution before the 2008 elections. This would have been illegal under the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 (McCain-Feingold), however, which bars corporations and non-profit organizations (such as Citizens United) from sponsoring "any broadcast, cable, or satellite communication" that mentions a candidate in a federal campaign within 30 days of a primary or 60 days of a general election.
In an unusual move, the Court decided to rehear oral arguments, scheduling them for September 9, which is a few weeks before the next term officially kicks off. Earlier this month in The Washington Post, liberal columnist Ruth Marcus offered an astonishing case for why the Court should gut the First Amendment and restrict political speech:
In short, this is precisely the sort of cantankerous political speech that ought to be protected under the First Amendment. The problem is that for purposes of federal election law, Citizens United is treated the same as Wal-Mart because it is a nonprofit corporation and it takes corporate as well as individual donations.
We don't want Wal-Mart—at least I don't—using its purchasing power to buy elections, and we don't want Wal-Mart funneling money to a nonprofit proxy. But how to keep Wal-Mart out of the candidate-electing business while protecting the speech of ideological groups?...
The smart, not to mention judicially restrained, approach would be for the court to take one of several available escape hatches, much as it did in avoiding a final verdict on the constitutionality of the Voting Rights Act. It could say that because Citizens United took such a small amount of corporate money, it should not be subjected to the same rules as a regular for-profit corporation. (This is already true for ideological nonprofit groups that don't take any corporate funds.) It could say an on-demand video is not the same as a commercial.
So much for taking rights seriously!
Here's a little something Marcus forgot to mention: During oral arguments last term, the government openly admitted that the same precedent allowing this suppression of political speech would logically apply to the publication and distribution of books. Perhaps she'll suggest a few more "escape hatches" when that time comes.
And what about her talk of judicial restraint? She may think that she's trapped the Court's conservatives (and conservatives in general) with their own famous attacks on judicial activism. But even the biggest foe of "judicial tyranny" still thinks that a specifically enumerated constitutional provision (the First Amendment, look it up) should trump a lousy federal law. By striking down this portion of McCain-Feingold the justices won't be "legislating from the bench," they'll be doing their constitutional duty.
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But the First Amendment only counts when I like what you're saying, right? Otherwise, it's not free speech but something else and should be regulated.
......
You know, we need an invasion. I'm now convinced that people are
simply too stupid for liberty and freedom.
I already regret thinking this and will probably regret
typing/saying it even more but I think the best thing that could
happen would be a massive alien invasion. The aliens taking people
as slaves and killing them in droves.
Kind of like DC's summer event last year "Final Crisis".
Basically, Darkseid, who is essentially DCs God of Evil, finds
something he's been looking for for ages called the "Anti-Life
Equation" that robs the freewill of a living being. In the story,
some of the heroes that fall victim to the ALE try their hardest to
submit to it again after it's taken away because, in the words of
the Green Arrow "...Anti-Life was so much easier...".
I see a lot of this attitude in people. And I fucking hate it.
And yes I know my post was insane. It needed to be to match the fucking idiocy that's been blogged about on Reason that past couple of weeks.
It's OK, Kyle. The only cure for insanity is more insanity...or something like that.
Is there a compromise where we can get a moratorium on pundits publishing new books about what's wrong with America? Give me three months without seeing the face of some yapping idiot from a news channel who thinks that qualifies him to write a book...
Just like my eyes see "feministing" as "femfisting" (thus
forcing me to think of lezdom fisting), I swear I read Citizens
United as Citizen Nothing. My nanosecond long stream of
conciousness actually came up with: "Citizen Nothing has a case in
the Supreme Court docket? And he's using his H&R handle in the
case?! WTF?!!"
Stupid speed-reading classes.
Ruth Marcus is not liberal (at least in the classic meaning of
the word) - but certainly in the current meaning.
It's absolutely amazing that anyone can contort 'free speech' so
badly. I bet this dumb bitch thinks she's enlightened.
"they'll be doing their constitutional duty."
Judicial activists! Unelected old men legislating from the
bench!
Do we really want the government telling people who they can and cannot associate with? Because this is about that as much as anything else.
You know, I thought we had seen a possible nadir of stupidity
leading up to the 2008 election. I figured it would have to recede
and calm down once Obama became president. But it just. keeps.
getting. worse. The healthcare idiocy, the absolute jettisoning of
any free speech principles across the liberal pundit board,
including Marcus here, and the general hysterical mood pervading
the chattering classes is unreal.
How do they keep this up? This much cocaine should have burned out
all their dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin levels by
now.
So what's the difference between Walmart donating to things and a partnership in a country without incorporation law doing the same?
The smart, not to mention judicially restrained, approach
would be for the court to . . . say that because Citizens United
took such a small amount of corporate money, it should not be
subjected to the same rules as a regular for-profit
corporation.
What an idiot.
What she characterizes as "judicial restraint" is judges amending a
statute from the bench by creating, out of whole cloth, an
exception for non-profits that take only some de minimis amount of
filthy corporate money. That, ny friends, is legislating from the
bench, the very definition of judicial activism.
No, judicial restraint resides in not amending the Constitution
sub rosa to allow unconstitutional legislation to stand,
and striking such legislation from the books, not amending it
ultra vires so that it just barely passes Constitutional
muster.
"You know, I thought we had seen a possible nadir of stupidity
leading up to the 2008 election. I figured it would have to recede
and calm down once Obama became president. But it just. keeps.
getting. worse. The healthcare idiocy, the absolute jettisoning of
any free speech principles across the liberal pundit board,
including Marcus here, and the general hysterical mood pervading
the chattering classes is unreal.
How do they keep this up? This much cocaine should have burned out
all their dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin levels by
now."
Seriously. You know, my paranoid meter is usually a bit higher than
the average person but I really think there's going to be some type
of "explosive incident" or something going on soon. The left's
chattering heads are foaming at the mouth and the average populace
seems to be getting crazier too. I hope I'm very wrong in this. I
simply do not see a good ending coming up.
R.C. Dean,
Well, it is just absolutely bizarre to me that somehow if I or an
organization takes corporate money that somehow "taints" the
viewpoint; whereas if I take it from a non-profit it does not. It
is a romantic view of the world that public choice theory
absolutely eviscerates.
"We don't want Wal-Mart-at least I don't-using its purchasing
power to buy elections, and we don't want Wal-Mart funneling money
to a nonprofit proxy"
But multi billion dollar media corporations doing the same thing by
publishing a newspaper is just a-ok. What a moron.
It's funny this comes up, as I was talking to a business associate about Obama and such, and he asked about the Constitution and Obama's powers and the like. I told him the sad lesson I've learned: The past 200+ years of Supreme Court decisions has rendered the Constitution meaningless. This is just another fine example of where the clear meaning of the First Amendment has been so twisted over the years that this can even be an issue. I guess it does keep the lawyers employed.
Seward,
The other is that name me a non-prophit that doesn't take corporate
money? Citizen's United is tainted by taking corporate money. But,
when groups like the Sierra Club take millions in corporate money
they are not. WTF?
But it just. keeps. getting. worse.
Told you we hadn't hit peak retard yet.
Hey, the constitution was great when they needed it to break away and declare independance from Europe, but it isn't relevant today. That's what the president and his congress are for.
The left's chattering heads are foaming at the mouth and the
average populace seems to be getting crazier too.
I don't think there will be an "explosive incident". The chattering
heads feed off one another and tend to whip each other into a
frenzy; it's all part of their little culture. The one thing that's
a little different here is that usually all of them get spastic in
their partisan ways; but now, it seems like the left is going
stratospheric while the right seems to be keeping its collective
head down.
Now, that may be that the right sees the left imploding and is
getting out of the way, but they're usually not that smart. We'll
see.
That was sposed to be al snarky and stuff but I wonder how many folks really think like that.
Episiarch,
I think the "right" such as it is is as taken aback by the
townhalls and such as the left. They had no idea. Further, they are
far too incompetant and greedy to ever pull off such a thing. What
we are seeing here is an actual case of the silient majority of
Americans who normally don't pay a lot of attention starting to get
pissed off. It is no wonder creatures like TV talking heads are
scared shitless.
brotherben,
Didn't you see the copied and pasted posts form the facebook
flamewar (where the socialist said that if we weren't socialist we
shouldn't even be allowed air?)?
More folks think like that than we can imagine. And I have a huge
imagination.
As for the whole non-profit vs. corporate money issue, I feel it
stems from the current misbelief that money is the root of all
evil. It is the love of money that was supposed to be the
evil part, not the little pieces of paper.
A new Godwin for Team Blue. Instead of comparing your enemies to Nazis, compare them to Walmart.
"That was sposed to be al snarky and stuff but I wonder how many
folks really think like that."
More than I really want to count. I've heard stuff not that
different more than once. But it's not from one side versus the
other. Plenty argued similarly with the Patriot Act.
"More than I really want to count. I've heard stuff not that
different more than once. But it's not from one side versus the
other. Plenty argued similarly with the Patriot Act."
Very true. But saying that perhaps the Bill of Rights shouldn't
apply to people who come from foreign countries who are plotting to
blow us up is not not nearly as stupid or crazy as saying that the
1st Amendment should not apply to anyone who makes a profit or
takes money from someone who does.
There are so many things that have led us to where we are. The
generation of voting age kids that were raised as little ice cream
screamers. The previous administration convincing the multitudes
that letting the govt assume control in the name of national
security is just the right thing to do. The congress being in bed
with big business for decades. The welfare crap that Johnson signed
in 1965.
It has us now in a place where everybody wants everything and
nobody wants to pay for it. Ya got folks voting for president and
Congress that can't pour piss from a boot without illustrated
instructions. People screaming just for the sake of
screaming.
Christ, I don't know what the damn answers are
but if you ask me some questions, I'll make some shit up that
sounds plausible.
Didn't you see the copied and pasted posts form the facebook
flamewar (where the socialist said that if we weren't socialist we
shouldn't even be allowed air?)?
I saw that and it is retarded. A socialist would have to have air
taken from someone and redistributed to them by the government.
Anyone else can just inhale. Or is that communism. What's the
difference again?
What part of "Congress shall make no law ..." do they not
understand? The more so as this goes to freedom of speech, freedom
of the press, and the freedom of association.
There is actually a place hey could get so traction, though. The
doctrine of treating a corporate entity the same as a actual human
being is a matter of law and precedent, not a
constitutional requirement. So Congress could change things on that
front. If they were bat-shit crazy---it would
throw huge segments of existing law (both statute and precedent)
into question. I imagine that the economic dislocation would be
considerable.
You don't really need to worry about that, though, because it
wouldn't accomplish the main goal of campaign finance reform:
keeping the incumbents in power.
Nick,
You have to understand. Paying taxes is not good enough. You are
only entitled to government services if you love the government and
are greatful to it. If you don't, you have bad political conscience
and are not entitled to anything.
Liberals pull that kind of logic all the time. Right now on the
front cover of Slate there is some shithead saying that old people
have no right to object to Obamacare because they are all on
medicare. The logic seems to be once you accept any benefits from
the government you can never object any expansion of government
even if you didn't want and are required by law to take the
government benefits you are recieving.
I say take away Ruth Marcus' first amendment rights. Let's pass
a law telling her to STFU.
Stupid hypocrite.
You are only entitled to government services if you love the
government and are greatful to it.
Like the distubing scene in the movie version of 1984 with the rat
in the cage getting closer and closer the the guy's face...
It's not enough to obey Big Brother, you have to
Love.
Nick, one's about being social, e.g. Paris Hilton is a socialitist,
the other is living communally, or something.
Some important aspect of the Government owning the air to begin
with, simply because it is public air. Thus Public=Owned by the
Government. And thus, able to be governed, that is, distributed to
whom "they" see fit.
"Property Rights" is a 4-letter word (phrase?) with that crowd.
I'm a first amendment extremist. I'm in the fine company of
Madison and Jefferson, so I hope the progressives will cut me some
slack.
McCain-Feingold is unconstitutional, lock stock and
barrel.
Progessives/liberals/leftists/whatevers who support this evil piece
of shit can go fuck themselves. Any on the right who think likewise
can also follow that sage advice. I'm tired of the weasel words and
lame justifications for attemppting to gut the finest 45 words ever
strung together in the history of humanity.
And you lagal scholars on SCOTUS know I'm right. Grow some fucking stones and end this travesty, this usurpation of my unalienable rights.
J sub D:
I'm a first amendment extremist. I'm in the fine company of Madison and Jefferson, so I hope the progressives will cut me some slack.
McCain-Feingold is unconstitutional, lock stock and barrel.
Hear! Hear!
See now, you guys keep choosing the incompetence option, whereas
I'm choose the malice option.
People like Marcus and the frothing-at-the-mouth-breathers leftists
punditry we've heard from in the past fe weeks are just plain
fucking evil.
There's no other word for such over-the-top and absolutely
intentional dishonesty. The level of dishonest discourse that has
come from the left's mouthpieces has set a new benchmark that I
submit will hold for many years to come.
My bet is that Marcus is planning on setting up a nice, cozy little
non-profit that will only "coincidentally" benefit from this new
non-profit friendly speech regime.
Well, the USSC overturned the sodomy ruling (Bowers v Hardwick) with Lawrence v Texas, so no reason why they can't overturn McConnell v FEC...
The doctrine of treating a corporate entity the same as a
actual human being is a matter of law and precedent, not a
constitutional requirement. So Congress could change things on that
front.
Please direct me to that portion of the Constitution, laying
dormant lo these two centuries and more, that gives Congress the
authority to make corporate law.
R C Dean, that is actually how people use the doctrine of incorporation (and substantive due process): powers delegated to the States can be taken up by the federal government at any time.
The doctrine of treating a corporate entity the same as a actual human being is a matter of law and precedent, not a constitutional requirement. So Congress could change things on that front.
Please direct me to that portion of the Constitution, laying dormant lo these two centuries and more, that gives Congress the authority to make corporate law.
Well, hmm. Nightmare scenario, but...
The Commerce Clause would seem to allow them to
* insist that the states recognize (or not) corporate entities
chartered by other states at least in matters of interstate
commerce.
* regulate the extend to which corporate entities may engage in
interstate commerce or foreign trade (or trade with the Indian
tribes, for what that's worth).
The "progress of science and useful arts" bit would seem to allow
them to determine if a corporate entity is eligible to hold a
trademark or patent.
The "uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies" could be employed
to put limits on the nature of organization which are allowed to
declare bankruptcy.
Taken as a whole these allow an effective veto on the nature of,
and judicial treatment of corporate entities. If the Congress
really and truely wanted to bring the whole damn economy crashing
down, breaking the institution know as the corporation seems to be
within their constitutional grant of power.
I can't see, however, how the First Amendment would allow such
discrimination against partnerships and the like...
Oh, and by the way, Thomas Jefferson, first amendment extremist,
staunch defender of the power and freedom of the press, never took
a newspaper and claimed he was a better man for it.
Contradiction? I think not.
"I think the "right" such as it is is as taken aback by the
townhalls and such as the left. They had no idea. Further, they are
far too incompetant and greedy to ever pull off such a
thing."
There is nothing more fucking stupid than someone lumping tens of
millions of Americans into one group, calling them by a simple
name, and then claiming that all these people are idiots and
incompetent and ascribing character traits like greed to everyone
one of them. I could as easily write that all individuals named
John are retarded douchebags that can't fucking spell words like
silent properly.
Slight correction to the above post: "...and then claiming that all these people are idiots and incompetent and ascribing character traits like greed to every one of them."
B, how are we ever going to move beyond parties and shouters toward our Bright Common Future if you insist on thinking critically!?
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