Nick Gillespie | June 11, 2009
Update: Reason.tv's Ted Balaker, on the scene at the Lynch sentencing, reports that Charlie Lynch has been sentenced to three one-year sentences that will run concurrently, plus one day in jaul.
Lynch is free pending appeal and his lawyers, says Balaker, seem extremely happy and relieved with the sentence and are convinced they will knock it down much lower and that Lynch will not be in prison anytime soon.
Look for video of the post-sentencing press conference
at Reason.com and Reason.tv soon.
Charlie Lynch is the medical marijuana dispensary owner whose business, fully legal under California state law, was raided by federal agents in 2007.
At his federal trial last year, Lynch was not allowed to mention the legal status of medical marijuana under California state law while conducting his defense. The predictable-and outrageous-verdict? Lynch was found guilty of distributing pot and faces a mandatory minimum sentence of five years in prison.
After several delays, Lynch's sentencing is scheduled for 10A.M. Pacific Time today, Thursday, June 11.
Tune in to Reason.com for an immediate report on the verdict.
Will justice be served? Or will an innocent man pay for the crimes of a government that is out of control? President Barack Obama has said he will stop federal raids against dispensaries in states that have made medical marijuana legal. Will that pledge make a difference in Lynch's sentencing?
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Here's a list of Reason's coverage (video and print) of the Lynch story. A snippet of that coverage:
The polite term for Lynch's predicament is Kafkaesque. He is a guiltless man who genuinely helped the sick in his community and is being punished for caring. Now he faces at least five years—and potentially much more—in one of the most sickening and barbaric displays of how the drug war is carpet-bombing huge swaths of American life. Indeed, to call Lynch's plight Kafkaesque is to hide the brutality of America's longest-running and most-destructive war behind an aesthetically comforting phrase.
Charlie Lynch's life has been destroyed by policies and priorities so idiotic and corrosive that they create or exacerbate every negative outcome they purport to address. It is the logic of bombing the village in order to save it raised to an exponential degree and all Americans who believe in the smallest doses of freedom, compassion, rule of law, personal autonomy, and federalism should bear witness to the horror of what has already happened and will likely be made still worse on [June 11].
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Do you seriously even have to ask?
This is the USA, we don't do justice here, just law. Laws written
by the most corrupt scum among us (i.e. politicians) and enforced
by pigish thugs (i.e. cops).
Of course he's going to jail!
Boy I sure hope this judge doesn't have any empathy and looks to find a way to avoid the mandatory min. Cuz then he would be perverting justice and the will of the legislature and the people who elected them.
Of course he's going to jail!
...but not, to be fair, for Helping the Sick
Although, to be anally correct, CT, the sentencing guidelines are just guidelines, per the SCOTUS. There is no legal bar on the judge sentencing him to time served. All very legal and Constitutional, this vesting of the judge with final authority over sentencing. Kind of giving the judge a defined scope for the exercise of empathy, rather than privileging empathy as a reason for overriding the law.
I am extremely saddened by this man's turn of fate. The battle
between state and federal level should not take form by putting
innocent people in the mix. This man should not go to prison for
doing something that his state deems legal. I understand that
federally it is not legal yet, but again, the levels of government
should be fighting here, not one man against Washington.
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Mandatory minimums are not "sentencing guidelines". I believe he will get the minimum which is five. Of course the judge could show some balls and make it time served, but won't.
Mandatory minimums are not "sentencing
guidelines".
Yes, they are. Unless something has changed, the SCOTUS ruled
(Booker?) that so-called mandatory minimums could be advisory
only.
President Obama has the power to pardon Lynch. If he does exercise it, then he will be responsible for imprisoning him. Let's hope that he has some guts.
Sorry, I left out the "NOT":
President Obama has the power to pardon Lynch. If he does NOT
exercise it, then he will be responsible for imprisoning him. Let's
hope that he has some guts.
This whole thing could have been avoided if the California politicians had noticed the Supremacy Clause in the Federal Constitution and decided NOT to pass a law tricking their own citizens into doing something illegal under federal law.
Remember - Jury nullification! Spread the word for non-violent drug offenses. Tell everyone you know. You never know when you'll be in the jury box.
Another option -- although not as good as jury nullification -- is to tell the judge during voir dire that you will not convict no matter what the evidence. That way you will not get on the jury. If enough people do that, they cannot convict.
Just to clarify, mandatory minimums and sentencing guidelines
are not the same thing. A statute will typically provide a
mandatory minimum (and sometimes mandatory maximum) sentence. The
sentencing judge may not deviate from these unless the prosecution
moves for a sentence below the mandatory minimum.
Separately, the U.S. Sentencing Commission, which is technically
part of the Judicial Branch, has promulgated sentencing guidelines,
which attempt to combine lots of factors about the crime and the
defendant and then recommend a range in which the judge should
sentence. After Booker, those guidelines are advisory only -- if
the recommended range is, say, 70 to 90 months, the judge can still
sentence the defendant to less than 70 or more than 90 months.
Again, though, the judge is still bound by the statutory minimum
unless the prosecution moves to sentence below that figure (usually
on the basis of substantial assistance to the government).
Hope that helps.
Sentencing guidelines (now discretionary) are different from
Mandatory Minimum terms set forth by Congress in the statute
defining the crime.
The federal crime of distributing marijuana carries a 5 year
mandatory minimum sentence, and a sentencing judge does not have
the authority to sentence below the minimum.
He's getting 5 years.
For breaking a law he knew about.
His choice.
At his federal trial last year, Lynch was not allowed to mention the legal status of medical marijuana under California state law while conducting his defense.
I haven't been following this story closely. Was the materiale
illegalle involved California native? Considering the climate and
the weed's propensity to grow, I imagine that could be the
case.
If not, why not? And I guess, procedurally, there's nothing a
layman like me can complain about beside the sheer violence of it
(in the libertarian sense).
If so, then there is no federal authority over this commerce, and
not only is the fact that the State allows it relevant, the State
itself should be defending its 10th-Amendment powers.
shipwreckedcrew,
Would you be kind enough to tell me what provision of the
constitution empowers the federal government to outlaw Lynch's
actions?
Commerce clause? Welfare clause?
"The law is the law" is a moronic position, the last stand of
someone with no reason behind their position.
I wonder if these morons who spout such tripe would have obeyed the
laws in Nazi Germany to turn in innocent Jews for death, and those
who helped them. I guess Oskar Schindler was a criminal who should
have been executed, right? Cause "the law is the law"?
Thanks, shipwreckedcrew.
So, the Obama Justice Department could ask for time served, and the
judge could grant it, regardless of mandatory minimums?
But the Obama Justice Department has not done so?
So, the Obama Justice Department could ask for time served, and the judge could grant it, regardless of mandatory minimums?
But the Obama Justice Department has not done so?
The judge delayed sentencing at one point to see if the Obama
administration's new stated policy that they "wouldn't go after
medical marijuana cases unless there were also violations of state
law" *cough*BS*cough*. The justice department came back and said
that "nothing in the new policy would change their prosecution of
Mr. Lynch", or something to that effect.
So, my assertion that the Obama administration will not lift so much as a pinky or expend so much as one red cent of political capital to roll back the WOD is still pretty much on target? With the possible exception of fewer federal raids on CA medical marijuana facilities?
When it's citizen vs. citizen, fuck empathy --follow the
law.
When it's citizen vs. the state, fuck the law.
I'm confused. Charlie Lynch violated federal law. The Supreme
Court held in 2004 that federal drug laws supersede state laws. The
principle of federalism does not apply when it comes to drug laws.
So here we are. A man was properly found guilty of violating
federal law. End of story, I would think.
r
End of story, I would think.
The story now isn't the conviction, Joe. Its the sentencing.
The Obama Justice Department could keep their conviction and ask
the judge to release Lynch with time served.
They haven't. The Obama Justice Department wants him to do hard
time. That's the story.
Federal law is attacking the wellbeing of the sick and hurt, as
well as those like Charles Lynch whom have the balls to stand up
and help said sick and hurt, even though sound science proves that
marijuana DOES have medicinal value. History also proves this fact.
The federal gov loves Israel SO MUCH! Then look at their 25yr
running of medical science regarding cannabis! The federal
government IS attacking patients because they live by lies and
money, why else would they perpetuate such hyperbole about cannabis
that has consistantly and amazingly changed radicly over the last
72years since the passing of the marijuana tax act in 1937?
BTW, if profiteering in this great country is illegal, than maybe
we should indict and prosecute every pharmaceutical company for
selling poison in the guise of hydrocone, percocet, codiene, and
such! And they make a helluva lot more money than mmj providers.
Liars AND hypocrites!!!!!
How many patents has the fed's secured on the various properties of
cannabis? I'd sure like to know if THAT's true!
Great news! The new drug czar has announced that they will no longer use the term "War On Drugs".
The whole framework of Federal Drug laws rests on the idea of interstate trade. Any reasonable person can see that there is no such inter-state trade in these cases.
"The Supreme Court held in 2004 that federal drug laws supersede
state laws."
The Supreme Court: The branch of government that concocts excuses
for government breaches of the constitution.
If federal law supercedes state law, shouldn't there be a
provision to change state laws when an applicable federal law comes
into place? They don't however, and depending on the political
popularity of a law at a local/state level will determine how much
a state will fight back against federal intrusion. So to all who
claim "The law is the law", it really isn't, anymore than "a judge
must follow the letter of the law". Exceptions, interpretations and
obsolescence voids laws all the time, without bothering to inform
either the federal government or the supreme court. A law is only
as strong as those who support it and by the looks of things, the
federal government is losing popular backing on alot of them. This
man pushed the boundary of federal vs. state power too early and
looks like he's going to be burned by it, but there will come a
time, long before federal bans are repealed when they simply stop
being enforced through a change of mass opinion concerning
drugs.
"The law is the law" except that it never has nor ever will be
really that case.
This sounds like the best we could have hoped for. Still, there's something wrong when we're happy Charlie's "only" gonna spend a year in prison for operating a medical marijuana dispensary.
Holy shit.....
I'm really shocked by this. I'm hoping that his lawyers can get it
knocked down like they're saying.
Right on!
Another option -- although not as good as jury nullification
-- is to tell the judge during voir dire that you will not convict
no matter what the evidence. That way you will not get on the jury.
If enough people do that, they cannot convict.
Sorry Henry, but that's just all kinds of stupid. If enough people
do that they cannot convict and if my aunt had balls she'd be my
uncle. Not bloody likely that either of those things will ever be
true, so it is most surely not another option.
If you find yourself on a non-violent drug offense jury, for fuck's
sake, don't tell the judge you won't convict. If you do you get
kicked off and replaced by someone who will convict. Just keep your
mouth shut and then vote for acquittal.
More Fucking Goddamn Paperwork!
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The Supreme Court held in 2004 that federal drug laws
supersede state laws.
This is how I would handle the case, defending myself: court press
exposure, quote the ninth and tenth amendments, and say "case
closed."
The Obama Justice Department wants him to do hard time.
That's the story.
Precisely. Since this is a federal trial and Obama is the President
of the United States, he's not even required to ask the judge for
anything whatsoever. He can commute the sentence with a few strokes
of his executive pen.
If he doesn't do so, not even his most strident apologists will be
able to rationalize away your point.
Just keep your mouth shut and then vote for
acquittal.
Most important part. They really won't put up with your crazy ideas
about rights and the constitution and whatever. Keep the mouth shut
until it's too late for you to be removed.
So here we are. A man was properly found guilty of violating
federal law. End of story, I would think.
The judge said 5 to 10, Joe Strummer said double that again...
Can someone explain the deal with mandatory minimums again? If what's been said here is true, then is the sentence illegals?... maybe the judge will be put up on charges?
""He can commute the sentence with a few strokes of his
executive pen."""
If Obamama really believes that this should be a state issue, he
should pardon him.
If he doesn't do so, not even his most strident apologists
will be able to rationalize away your point.
I see you weren't lurking around these parts during the Days Of
joe.
"Charlie Lynch has been sentenced to three one-year sentences
that will run concurrently, plus one day in jaul."
God NO! Not jaul! Anything but jaul!!
I'm sorry. I seem to remember this Obama mentioning something about "change". Did I mishear him? I'm confused.
This whole thing could have been avoided if the California
politicians had noticed the Supremacy Clause in the Federal
Constitution and decided NOT to pass a law tricking their own
citizens into doing something illegal under federal law.
The supremacy of federal law over state and local law does not
nullify the rest of the constitution. Only the Supreme court has
that power...
They haven't. The Obama Justice Department wants him to do
hard time. That's the story.
Right, like the Bush Justice Department had him arrested and
prosecuted. Your point is?
Anyway, he got 1 year and 1 day, which is as lenient a sentence as
he could've gotten. And so that's actually probably a credit to the
slow, but changing policy on the drug war under Obama.
Meanwhile, there are how many hundreds of thousands of (mostly
black) drug users and drug dealers who have served or are serving
time for drug crimes. What about them?
""The law is the law" is a moronic position, the last stand of
someone with no reason behind their position."
Agreed.
Here's why you have to hate politicians: Obama has publicly said
that these kind of raids are wrong and are to stop, but he has done
nothing to stop this man from having his liberty suppressed for
years for doing the very thing he says it's not a good idea to use
federal law enforcement for...Shame on him, shame.
Meanwhile, there are how many hundreds of thousands of
(mostly black) drug users and drug dealers who have served or are
serving time for drug crimes. What about them?
C'mon, Joe. It's not like Reason has ignored black victims of the
WoD.
They haven't. The Obama Justice Department wants him to do
hard time. That's the story.
Right, like the Bush Justice Department had him arrested and
prosecuted. Your point is?
Two-fold.
(1) It was wrong to arrest and prosecute him, but its too late to
change that now. The decision to jail him rests with the current
administration.
(2) A lot of people who voted for Obama seriously believed that he
would back off on this kind of stuff. Nobody expected any better
from Bush.
Referring to the decision to seek jail time for Lynch as a decision
of the Obama Justice Department just makes clear who should be held
accountable. Is that a problem?
"They haven't. The Obama Justice Department wants him to do hard
time. That's the story."
"Right, like the Bush Justice Department had him arrested and
prosecuted. Your point is?"
I thought the point was that Obama is a lying asshole who doesn't
mind railroading an innocent person. Why bring Bush (an even bigger
asshole) into it. Joe, you might as well have said "It's the death
penalty for drugs in Singapore, so what's your point?".
Meanwhile, there are how many hundreds of thousands of
(mostly black) drug users and drug dealers who have served or are
serving time for drug crimes. What about them?
I don't know, why did they make such a big deal about Dred Scott at
the time? What about the other slaves--wasn't anybody worried about
them?
I wonder how the jury nullification aficianados would feel about
a pro-cop jury refusing to convict cops who were caught on video
murdering a handcuffed, helpless suspect. Much of the modern
aversion to nullification arose from similar practices, mostly in
the South, in the rare instances when a white person was prosecuted
for a crime against a black person.
It's a double edged sword, people.
I can't believe that there are still people who think that this man should go to jail. The main argument for puttin him in jail is it is illegal but if we truly live in a democracy then marijuana should be legal in California because the citizens voted to legalize it, lealization passed state, but big brother had to step in because people cannot vote on Federal Laws. Democracy, lol, I call Bullshit.
"Another option -- although not as good as jury nullification --
is to tell the judge during voir dire that you will not convict no
matter what the evidence. That way you will not get on the jury. If
enough people do that, they cannot convict."
Enough people WON'T do that -- they will just replace you with
someone who will convict.
Far better to sit on the jury through the trial, then vote for
acquittal, how ever many times the question comes up.
"Far better to sit on the jury through the trial, then vote for
acquittal, how ever many times the question comes up."
Far better for whom? Aren't we individuals? Do I want to sit
through a trial and then ceaseless hounding my my fellow jurors?
And a hung jury will get re-tried. So your tax dollars go into
funding another trial, wasting more jurors' time, and likely
winding up in a conviction anyway.
No!, I say. The right strategy is, during voir dire, to break into
a Socratic-style Galt-like speech about the rights of man,
AMERICA!, our founding principles, and the reasons for trial by
jury (i.e., nullification).
"I wonder how the jury nullification aficianados would feel
about a pro-cop jury refusing to convict... "
I would be outraged by the jury's abuse of their power and
responsibility. Nullification refers to the jury's duty to judge
the law, and only nullify the law if they find it unjust.
A breach of that responsibilty is an outrage on the order of any
other treachery committed under color of authority.
this is absolutely insane, if a freakin doctor writes a prescription for medical marijuana, apparently he felt it was for the best, why in the hell is this man being persecuted for helping the ill??? Although, i dont see that its fair for only California to be able to do this. Let this man go!
will the constitution ever become a valid document and does the
declaration of independence have any credence .....not yet, but i
have faith they will, and hope ....soon.....
in the meantime lets start some witch hunts.....and burn some
innocent people alive while the persecuting mob chants
"burn the witch"
and personally i only advocate "cannabis and hemp", i see "marijuana" as a demon (combined the two under one law) created by rich people using the government to sell all their tree produce (for paper pulp) and a chemical magnate to make rope and all the other textiles that hemp was used for......it's only about money ..... for the few, to be gathered from the masses.
and is this trail showing us, that although they won't pursue harassing medical cannabis, they should go ahead and prosecute those already in the system (cause they can), it seems to me that it should liberate ? But I'm just confused by common sense …I guess?
so, if witch hunting is deemed for what it is....and morally stopped...., the authorities should hurry and burn all the people they have incarcerated…before it's too late? …hmmm….
why in the hell is this man being persecuted
He's being persecuted because the War on Drugs is a massive
pork-barrel scheme, which pays out billions of dollars in bribe
money to politicians and other tax leeches at all levels of
government, and anything that demonstrates the stupidity of this
gravy train will be viciously suppressed.
-jcr
Is this really happening?! I'm sitting here in stunned disbelief. The United States of America is no longer the home of the free- it's a borderline police state, with big government as big brother. Tomorrow I'm changing my voter registration from Democrat to Libertarian. I now feel completely trapped by the authoritarianism- God help us all.
This is ridiculous. Our country is rotten and skewed in thousands of ways. This is just one. The people on top (Politicians/Government officials) care only about how much profit is made and how much will continue to be made in their favor even if it results in immensely hurting the citizens they are working to "protect".
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