Good and Bad Marijuana News

California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger says "it's time for debate" about whether to legalize and tax marijuana, as Assemblyman Tom Ammiano (D-San Francisco) has proposed.

Meanwhile, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit has upheld the 10-year sentence given to Brian Epis, the first man prosecuted in federal court for growing medical marijuana after California voters approved Proposition 215, which allowed patients with doctor's recommendations to use the drug and grow it for their own use. Epis, who was convicted of growing 1,000 plants within 1,000 feet of a school, said the marijuana was for him and four other patients. He argued that his sentence was unjust because he believed he was acting within the law. The 9th Circuit said he should have known that his operation had implications for interstate commerce, the excuse the Supreme Court cited when it upheld federal efforts to suppress medical marijuana use in states where it's legal. But that would have required some prognostication on his part, since that ruling came eight years after he was arrested. 

Last month I noted that Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.) also is ready to talk about legalizing pot.

[Thanks to Tom Angell for the Schwarzenegger tip.]

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  • the innominate one||

    translated: the ninth circuit not only expects citizens to be able to add +3 to all auspex rolls, but also to be able to successfully read the minds of the supreme court to see which way they'll vote on any particular issue (requires successful perception rolls for each SCOTUS member)

    may be SCOTUS will overturn this ruling, or Obama will pardon him (wishful thinking, I know)

    by the way:

    fuck the shut up, wacky loner

  • Elemenope||

    the ninth circuit not only expects citizens to be able to add +3 to all auspex rolls, but also to be able to successfully read the minds of the supreme court to see which way they'll vote on any particular issue (requires successful perception rolls for each SCOTUS member)

    Oh for fuck's sake...White Wolf references? Seriously?

    (Yes, I know this reveals me, recognizing the reference, as a horrible and inveterate geek, but still...)

  • Paul||

    Sweet digs, LMNOP, I have that same dart board, flip it over, it's baseball!

  • ||

    It all starts with "talking" about legalization. Then we legalize medical marijuana, and then marijuana in general, and then cocaine, and the next you think you know people are marrying dogs!

  • ||

    It's a last ditch attempt by Ahnold not to go down in history as California's worst governor. He makes Jerry look like a managerial genius in comparison.

  • ||

    It's really kind of a shame that Arnold went from being this huge-personality action megastar to a fucking douchebag loser politician.

    How do you go from John Matrix to Jimmy Carter?

  • Paul||

    How do you go from John Matrix to Jimmy Carter?

    Get elected.

  • Dood||

    You see how badly cigarette smokers are treated by society, just wait until you see how pot smokers get treated if pot is ever made legal (as it should be).

    Pot is still taboo now, thus cool. Once it is available like a pack of cigs, that goes away.

  • ||

    Get elected.

    You're a funny guy, Paul. I like you. That's why I'm going to kill you last.

  • MJ||

    Setting aside the question whether what he did should or should not be a crime, since when has beleiving that you are acting within the law make a sentence for breaking a law unjust?

  • Elemenope||

    You see how badly cigarette smokers are treated by society, just wait until you see how pot smokers get treated if pot is ever made legal (as it should be).

    Pot is still taboo now, thus cool. Once it is available like a pack of cigs, that goes away.


    I will happily endure unreasoning approbation from small-minded idiots for the privilege to legally purchase the substances I would like to consume.

  • ||

    By accident I happened to come across a pro-pot rally on the courthouse steps of Hamilton County, OH, (Cincinnati), Sunday eve. There were probably about 100 in attendance. Even though the speaker was someone I've known for many years, the event, such as it was, confirmed for me that pot smokers are hurting the general cause of ending the insane war on drugs.
    I have never smoked pot. I'm not bragging. I just haven't.
    When I ask for an end to the insane war on drugs, I say the Second Amendment should have protected our right to put whatever substance we choose into our bodies, just as the First protected whatever ideas we choose to put into our minds.
    I will not beg for the right to keep smoking pot. To do so is just asking for spitefulness from the hoi polloi.
    By the way, I just finished "A Tale of Two Cities." Talk about hoi polloi spitefulness.

  • runescape gold||

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  • VocalCitizen||

    See, ma?! Conan IS brilliant!!!

    Think about it, people... if Schwarzenegger signs AB390 and makes marijuana legal, taxing it and regulating it, he will get re-elected. Trust me.

    I don't think people quite realize just how many closeted potheads there actually ARE in this country. From every walk of life.
    Add to those teeming masses the non-smoking supporters for economic, civil rights, compassion, unemployment, environmental, and $90/barrels' SAKE!
    That's a large number, my friend. I think the opposition will be shocked when true numbers emerge.
    You see? The people who want to use cannabis ALREADY DO! The numbers will only "increase" because people will come out of the shadows when certain ruination no longer looms.

  • the innominate one||

    MJ - mens rea

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  • ||

    He argued in his appeal that he had reasonably believed he was acting legally and would not be prosecuted by the federal government for transactions that did not involve interstate commerce.

    This is what gets me. I understand Stare Decisis. I understand that our law is based on a complex web of hundreds of years of precedent that make specialized lawyers and judges necessary. Fine.

    BUT

    If one were to pose a survey: if one grows a plant in one's own home for one's own consumption, and it is never sold nor crosses state lines, is this:
    1) commerce?
    2) interstate?
    3 interstate commerce?

    Probably 99% are going to answer no to all 3. In the face of such overwhelming odds, I have a hard time seeing how it is *not* ok to claim ignorance of the law when the interpretation of the law is *that far* out of step with common plain interpretation.

  • ||

    /blog/show/133337.html

    Heh. The url for this post is like some kind of super über duper extra vowel filled leet speek. I think this calls for a drink!

  • Elemenope||

    Probably 99% are going to answer no to all 3. In the face of such overwhelming odds, I have a hard time seeing how it is *not* ok to claim ignorance of the law when the interpretation of the law is *that far* out of step with common plain interpretation.

    This is when it is proper to call precedent "bad law". Wickard should be tossed on the common sense test that nobody thinks its core holding is actually true, nor say so with a straight face.

    What I don't understand is why the court hasn't continued to pursue its reasoning in Lopez, namely where they seemed to be going in the direction of "commerce" has to be something...um, commercial.

  • ||

    The picture, although funny, does nothing to advance the cause of legalization.

  • ||

    I come here for debate, and BAM
    All I get is cougar spam.

  • ||

    Didn't Davis manage to tank California during the boom, when other states were running surpluses? Not that he acted alone, but that's an achievement in incompetence that seems greater than anything the Kindergarten Cop has done.

  • ||

    So, I assume that the Obama Justice Department was arguing to uphold the ten year sentence on a guy based solely on his violation of federal law?

    Isn't that inconsistent with their stance that they would only enforce federal drug laws against medical marijuana folks when there were concurrent violations of state law?

  • AB390||

    The majority of Californians who support legalizing marijuana (California Assembly Bill 390) must stop being afraid and speak out for what they believe in.

    If you live in California and favor legalizing marijuana, YOU can make it happen. E-mail your state representatives to support AB 390. It's easy. Visit yes390.org

  • ||

    Hopefully the feds will quash this nonsense about legalizing pot. It sends a bad message to America's children that drug abuse is OK. Drug use is immoral, according to any law abiding citizen.

    What next, a debate on legalizing rape or murder because it costs too much to enforce? I fail to see the difference, because drug abuse is not a victimless crime because most violent crimes are drug related.

    Taking the pot is not good for us, the government has a right and in fact an obligation to ban anything that isn't good for us. Any law that helps the cops to keep us safe and sober is inherently a good thing, I'm all for it.

    We need laws to make it illegal to even discuss the repeal of drug laws.

  • ||

    I say the Second Amendment should have protected our right to put whatever substance we choose into our bodies...

    Dude, the Second Amendment protects your right to put whatever substance you choose into someone else's body.

  • metin2 yang||

    good day for you

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