Damon W. Root | July 16, 2008
The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence's Dennis Henigan has written a very interesting response to Robert Levy's Cato Unbound essay on the future of gun rights after D.C. v. Heller. Essentially, Henigan argues that the Court's conservatives have mangled the Constitution in order to reach a preferred outcome that will have little real world impact:
Although we will no doubt see an avalanche of Second Amendment claims (most by criminal defense lawyers on behalf of their clients seeking to avoid indictments and convictions for violations of gun laws), generally the lower courts are likely to interpret Heller as giving a constitutional green light to virtually every gun control law short of a handgun ban. Regardless of whether the Heller majority's newly discovered right eventually is incorporated as a restraint on the states, its significance may well prove more symbol than substance.
While it certainly makes rhetorical sense for Henigan to downplay the victory (and link it to criminals and their shady attorneys), it's not at all clear that the lower courts will see (or will continue to see) things his way. As David Kopel noted in reason after Heller came down, "Rome was not built in a day, and neither is constitutional doctrine."
For most of our nation's history, the U.S. Supreme Court did nothing to protect the First Amendment; it was not until the 1930s when a majority of the Court took the first steps towards protecting freedom of the press. It would have been preposterous to be disappointed that a Court in, say, 1936, would not declare a ban on flag-burning to be unconstitutional. It took decades for the Supreme Court to build a robust First Amendment doctrine strong enough to protect even the free speech rights of people as loathsome as flag-burners or American Nazis.
Moreover, the importance of the Court finally recognizing that the Second Amendment secures an individual right—not a collective one—shouldn't be minimized. And I must say, I find it pretty hard to believe that Henigan and his associates at Brady are really so lackadaisical about the incorporation of the amendment against the states. Chicago officials, on the other hand, are gearing up to protect the city's handgun ban in court. As deputy corporation counsel Benna Solomon told the Chicago Tribune, "We are prepared to aggressively litigate this issue and defend this ordinance."
Cato Unbound debate here. reason.tv's interview with Heller attorney Alan Gura here.
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Best quote: "... newly discovered right...."
God (or his/her secular equivalent), I can't effing stand the Brady
Bunch.
On the other hand, WLC, I have to relish the turnabout. It
wasn't too long ago that arch-liberals who crossed swords with me
on this issue were advising me to quit denying the reality that the
accepted interpretation of the 2nd Amendment did not allow for an
individual right to keep and bear arms and that I was living in a
fantasy world to maintain otherwise.
In those many informal discussions, I basically argued the case
that was argued in Heller, and I find the new situation to be very
sweet: It is now the anti-gunners' turn to take a long glide down
that Egyptian River on their sinking barge of tortured parsings,
wishful thinking, and illogical nonsense. We had to live in their
fantasy world for quite a while, but with luck, no more. If they
choose to remain stuck in their fantasy, as the Brady people appear
to be doing, they will self-marginalize, and not a moment too soon,
imho.
The other day there was a huge gun-rights rally at the State of
Illinoiis builing in the Loop. (I was just there for lunch)
Daley's going to have his hands full. I've seen a lot of rallies
downtown and this was the biggest policital one ever. (Sports draw
a much larger crowd...)
James Anderson Merritt-
Here, here.
However, the likes of you and me are still the minority. There are
legions out there who, in the abstract, are all for the right to
defend oneself and that one should be able to have a gun for
self-protection and for hunting; but, when it comes to the rubber
meeting the road, they are all too quick to cave to "well, i guess
there should be some reasonable restrictions" and "yeah, I don't
want some felon having a gun" and the like.
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that the court ruled that the 2nd
amendment protects an individual right. Too bad they couldn't leave
at that.
We had to live in their fantasy world for quite a while, but
with luck, no more.
Wasn't for me. The 2nd amendment to me, and every argument I ever
had about it, it was an individual right. Always was, and always
will be.
We still live in a fantasy world fashioned in large part by the morons on the SCOTUS (and not just those currently on the bench). What part of "Congress shall make no law..." or other perfectly clear mandate do they fail to grasp? Or is there no argument too credulous to make when it supports your preferred outcome?
Individual right? Of course it is an individual right. The amendment reads (in part) "the right of people to..." Please focus on the word "right". States do not have rights. States have powers, only powers. With that in mind, this amendment clearly means the states shall have the ability to raise a militia because the individual citizens of the state have the right to be armed for any lawful purpose. Go suck Pb Pelosi!
As deputy corporation counsel Benna Solomon told the Chicago
Tribune, "We are prepared to aggressively litigate this issue and
defend this ordinance."
At taxpayer expense, of course. How wonderful taxes are, to do such
things.
generally the lower courts are likely to interpret Heller as
giving a constitutional green light to virtually every gun control
law short of a handgun ban.
That's my take, after wading through all the gratuitous dicta about
how, gosh, even an individual right can have lots of restrictions,
so long as they seem reasonable to co-opted east coast
urbanites.
No matter your race , color , creed , nation of orgin or sexual preference as defined by the U.S.Goverment Justice comes out of the barrel of a .44 Magnum . Be on the giving end .
Actually Scalia made a stronger case of a collective right than
he did for an individual one. Like a magician, he just made it seem
as though "bear arms" implied an individual right.
In any event, Paul Madison completely destroyed Heller in every
fine detail and illustrated how dishonestly the majority presented
its case:
http://federalistblog.us/2008/07/dc_v_heller_was_scalia_honest_with_the_facts.html
All the left wingers, anti constitionilst, etc seem to be all of the same opinion that guns cause crime. GEE!! it seems that ALL OF MINE are all defective. Not a single one of them has commited a murder, a holdup,or anything else that is against the law, tsh,tsh. That is quit strange since I have been an ardent gun owner for well over 65 years of my 82 years on this planet. But I still do such nasty things with them such as punch holes in paper targets, take wild game (in season) and DEFEND MY FAMILY, HOME AND PROPERTY. Shame on me.
Just as in 1954 in Brown vs. Board of Education
this will be the beginning of the end of end of progressofachissium
in America. In the decade following the landmark ruling the Deep
South was at times forceably to give up it's segragationist and Jim
Crow laws. So I would like to hope that you elitest liberals and
commies just wake up and smell the coffee. and leave our rights
alone.
In any event, Paul Madison completely destroyed Heller in
every fine detail and illustrated how dishonestly the majority
presented its case:
Not so much, but thanks for playing.
As a Jewess in the US, I say it is high time that our Congress pass legislation recognizing any NRA membership card as a NATIONAL Concealed Carry permit! Let's take BACK the streets!
Howdy,
Yes, it was a victory when SCOTUS agreed on the 2nd Amendment. We
had a rally in Chicago, within ear shot of Mayor Daly's office and
Blagos office in the Thompson Center. This is the begining of the
downfall of Chicago's ban.
It was very peaceful with all races and nationalities. We all need
to provide protection for ourselves & families. SCOTUS also,
mandated the Police, who do a fine job, is not there for personal
protection. That comes from the individual citizen to
provide.
So give us concealled carry to preform our God given right of self
protection.
Paul Madison's "complete destruction" of Heller is
notable chiefly for its length, its incoherence, its historical
illiteracy, and its goldmine of grammatical errors.
As a refutation of Heller, it merits a first-class berth
on the failboat.
I'm not too surprised that Mayor Boss Daley will defend
Chicago's unconstitutional gun ban and continue to violate the
rights of its citizens just as segregationists fought Brown v Board
of Ed. Daley is in good company in that respect.
It makes no difference where people live, as citizens their rights
must be upheld. Can Washington D.C. be exempt from desegregation,
poll taxes, and Roe v Wade? Try violating people's rights regarding
that and watch how fast it applies everywhere in this nation.
The 14th amendment, thanks to the antebellum South, put to rest
that states and other localities can not abridge the rights,
privileges, and ammunities guaranteed to the people.
The Left used emanations and penumbras to put the rights of
privacy and abortion into the constitution.
What the Right did in Heller was waaaaay less of a stretch.
Finall fighting fire w fire?
The Supreme Court did not have to protect the 1st Amendment,
which is restricted to Congress, until the 1930s because we did not
have a problem with Socialist and radicals trying to stifle free
speech. The problem today is the failure to distinguish between
speech and behavior.
The Brady center is not interested in preventing violence otherwise
they would not be trying to disarm the country. The simple facts
are an armed society is safer.
The following is a write-up I did and updated after the 2nd
Amendment ruling. I have the ruling printed out and have read most
of it.
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While I applaud the ruling it still fails to obey the US
Constitution correctly. The majority opinion talks about a
"prefatory" clause. This description of the 2nd Amendment in the
opinion shows the Justices failed to read the actual English of the
2nd Amendment. The 2nd Amendment is a compounds sentence with 2
subjects and a single predicate. So while the ruling is a step
forward it still fails to "restore" a right that has been
unconstitutionally interfered with.
To understand what the 2nd Amendment actually states one must
examine the actual English. The following text shows a standard
English Structure Analysis, which I learned to do in the 4th and
5th grade.
The 2nd Amendment states
A well regulated militia, being necessary
to the security of a free state, the right
of the people to keep and bear arms shall
not be infringed.
Remove the prepositional phrases and you have
A well regulated militia, being necessary,
the right shall not be infringed.
Then remove the adverb phrases and you have
A militia, the right shall not be infringed.
By the rules of English when a series of nouns are separated in a
sentence by commas the commas can be replaced by the word "and" and
thus we have
A militia and the right shall not be infringed.
Also by the rules of English when a series of nouns are separated
by "and" and share the verb phrase the sentence can be re-written
as multiple sentences such as
A militia shall not be infringed.
The right shall not be infringed.
Then if you add the prepositional phrases and adverb phrase back in
you have
A well regulated militia, being necessary
to the security of a free state shall not be
infringed.
The right of the people to keep and
bear arms shall not be infringed.
I do the examination as above since many people seem to have
problems reading and understanding the English of the 2nd
Amendment. In particular I listened to a discussion on WBAL (I
believe - Channel 11) in Baltimore Maryland in the 1980s involving
Sarah Brady and others and she and some of the others appear to
have had a serious problem understanding the simple English of the
2nd Amendment.
This is partial section I never fleshed out.
In addition, the 10th Amendment make it clear that the 2nd is an
absolute prohibition that applies to the States and local
Governments as well as the Federal Government. Unlike the 1st
Amendment that restricts itself to Congress the 2nd Amendment makes
a blanket statement. Some one is going to say "What about the
Criminal?". The 13th Amendment, which restricts slavery and
involuntary servitude, clarifies this issue. A person subject to
the criminal justice system no longer has rights. They only have
privileges, until the period of punishment is up, that the jailer
gives them. In short a convict is property of the State. It is also
important to remember that the 9th Amendment also applies to the
States and local government. It does not restrict itself like the
1st Amendment either. Nor is it a right to be "free from cruel and
unusual punishments". That is a prohibition on the jailer.
On problem we have today is that the words of the US Constitution
are regularly twisted. I learned to decompose sentences in the 5th
grade (1970) and to read and write English in Elementary school.
Any elementary school student if taught proper English can
understand the US Constitution by age 10. That is how well the
Founding Father write the US Constitution.
While reading the Supreme Court opinion (I have it printed out -
157 pages) it becomes clear the majority failed to understand the
actual English. They did a lot of research on the existing case law
but as the anti-gun advocates did they failed to read the 2nd
Amendment as written. Instead of recognizing the true sentence
structure the majority created a prefatory and operative clause and
said the sentence could have a "Because" added at the beginning.
This is the same concept that the anti-gun people attempt by trying
to insert a "so" or "therefor" in the middle of the sentence. If
the Justices had actually read the sentence as written the ruling
would have prohibited registration, carry permits and other
unconstitutional restrictions.
The Founding Fathers who crafted the US Constitution wrote it so
everyone could understand it. And this includes the Amendments. So
while the first step has been made there are many more steps to be
made to under the various rulings that have interfered with the 2nd
Amendment. Some of which this ruling references to justify the
misreading of the 2nd Amendment.
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Another issue that people have failed to understand is that the US
Federal Government is composed to TWO (2) co-equal branches of
Government, not three (3). The Courts are not co-equal. This
becomes obvious when one read Article III, Section 1, Paragraph 1
and Article III, Section 2, Paragraph 2, Sentence 2. Anyone who has
study US Colonial History will understand why. The 13 Colonies had
serious problems with activist Royal Judges who ignore the Colonial
legislatures. A large number of Judges would be impeached for
"Malfeasance in Office" for "Legislating from the Bench" if the
Colonial leaders were alive today.
If the governments of these municipalities such as DC cam make up arcane rules about what mechanical design your gun you wish to register must have, then why not contrive conditions of free speech? Such as, no one may use vowels in writing free speech. When commonly used handguns such as the most popular 1911 handgun which may be one of the finist of all handguns made, is rejected, then something is wrong. This pistol can't be construed as a machine gun. It seems that a revolver is all they will be allowing the civillian population to register. This is absurd and evidently will require more law suits.
AS I see it we have over 200 years of lower courts upholding the right of self defense and gun ownership by the fact that; thousands of people have never been charged with shooting an attacker, burgler, theif etc. This is and overwhelming endorsement of what the Supreme Court decreed. All the anti- gunners can sit on a tac. We have been the winners since 1776.
My answer to the DC City Council and The Thurds as the Brady
Campaign simple:
FU*K YOU and FU*K YOUR RESTRICTIVE GUN LAWS. Im a former DC
resident. As such I kept loaded semi automatic hand guns;
specifically, with High capacity 13 - 18 round mags, in my home and
carried them on the streets of DC. I continue to do so when ever I
visit DC. I urge all DC residents and anyone visiting DC to do the
same. Dont like it DC city council? Go FU*K yourself!!!
I love defying your UNCONSTITUTIONAL laws and will continue to do
so.
"CAN WE TALK"?
Millions of ordinary law abiding, mostly white folks, tax paying,
productive, good citizens who never snorted coke like "GUN BAN
Obama", all over the US enjoy safe ownership and recreational use
of firearms of all types,while experiencing a much lower rate of
accidental death and injury than occurs in some motor,contact, and
water sports. A major portion of violent acts committed with guns
in the US are perpetrated by and among illegitimate urban,
drug-crazed Black, and /or Hispanic gangbangers. Anti gun/gunowner
professional demonstrators like Rev."Blackjack- son" and his "gimme
gimme" welfare associates use shakedown and intimidation tactics to
bully spineless polititions and their media apendages into
attacking law abiding citizens guilty only of exercising and
enjoying a constitional right for enjoyment and personal defense. A
large body of experience shows that violent criminal acts multiply
in the face of gun bans.
I recently returned from a five week tour of Israel. I stayed in
five major cities and visited numerous villages and sites of
historical and Biblical importance.
Armed uniformed and non uniformed Israelis were ubiquitious. I saw
teachers, men and women in both Orthodox and secular garb, and
group leaders on school field trips with an M16 or .30 carbine
slung over their sholders, and/or with holstered semi autos. I saw
people openly carying in restraunts and other public places with
zero reaction from the public. I can only assume that many other
Israelis were carying conceiled. It became very obvious to me that
ordinary citizens' "keeping and bearing" in Israel is common, and
not feared or controversial. What I didn't experience in Israeli
cities was fear of walking the streets, day or night. And on the
evening newscasts I saw no reports of violent street crime in
anyplace that I stayed. Are Jews just genetically less susceptible
to crime- causing guns than other people, or ... do guns not cause
crime? Do DC murder statistics and African genicidal episodes
suggest a racial propensity for violent behavior, or does an
unarmed (disarmed) populace invite trouble? Anyone want to disarm
America and find out? YOUBETCHA! !
Heller has been denied to register his semi-auto handgun in
D.C.
DC is also requiring ballistic tests for every handgun registered.
Is also requiring guns be locked until a threat is perceived (that
is easy to ignore).
Is only registering one gun per ninety day period. Is registering
guns.
Eleanor Holmes says Home Rule still applies.
So everyone of you send some money to the NRA political victory
fund (or GOA, or local DC gun organization) and put your money
where your mouth is and help bankrupt the D.C. nazi govt with
infinite lawsuits. IF you do believe in the Bill of Rights.
We had a symposium on the meaning of the Second Amendment when I
was in law school. Dennis Henigan came down, by invitation, to
present the position that the Second Amendment does not protect an
individual right. Measured against Nelson Lund (taking the contra
position), he had no idea what he was talking about. He drew a line
between the two clauses of the Second Amendment (written on the
chalk board) and said that you needed to give meaning to both
clauses. Lund had already discussed at length the meaning of the
first clause (a reference to Congress's power to regulate the
militia under Article I of the Constitution) and he did not even
respond to that. Very quickly his "Second Amendment" argument
morphed into the argument that because the NRA had contributed
money to fund the chair that Lund holds at Virginia Mason
University, everyone in the room should simply discount Lund's
comments and articles.
Who is this guy to be opining on matters of constitutional law? I
think the Supreme Court wants more than a chalk line drawn between
the two clauses.
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