Texas Food Deregulation Helps the Little Guy

In recent years, Texas has improved the regulatory climate for craft beer, small home food entrepreneurs, and farmers markets in the state. Can the trend continue?

Last week marked the debut of a new Texas law that will allow vendors at farmers markets to offer food samples and cooking demonstrations to their customers.

If you prefer to treat this as purely good news, be my guest.

But if you're left to wonder something along the lines of, Why the hell didn't Texas law permit vendors to offer food samples and cooking demonstrations in the first place?, then you and I are largely on the same page.

Still, there are two larger points worth making here. First, Texas is hardly alone in having such inane laws on the books. Second, Texas is actually taking major steps to deregulate food sales in the state.

As for the first point, a report commissioned by the nonprofit I lead, Keep Food Legal, and published last year by the Harvard University Food Law and Policy Clinic, found regulations pertaining to farmers markets in several states increased the costs for vendors but provided little if any additional benefit to consumers.

Two years ago I blogged here about a New York State law that effectively served to bar cheesemongers selling at farmers markets from providing potential customers with samples or even cutting cheese to order.

At the time, New York farmers and other vendors lamented that the law would put them out of business by "subjecting them to similar rules as delis or grocery stores," requiring them to have access to running water--an exceedingly difficult and costly proposition for someone selling cheese on the street from atop a folding table.

The controversial New York State law was temporarily rescinded and became the subject of state hearings. The New York law apparently is no longer in force.

Unfortunately, though, it appears the new Texas sampling law may be in the crosshairs of state public health regulators.

"As delicious as those samples may be, health officials are saying the sampling and cooking in farmers markets could be harmful," reports news station KXXV. "This has prompted discussion about possibly regulating farmers markets just like restaurants come 2014."

That would be a terrible step backwards for farmers market vendors and their customers--and for a state that deserves lots of credit for being perhaps the best in the nation in recent years at deregulating food sales by small producers.

I've written recently about tangible steps Texas has taken to deregulate craft beer sellers and other brewers.

The Texas state legislature also deserves credit first for passing a Cottage Food Law and then for revising and improving the law. As I've noted previously, some Cottage Food Laws, state laws permitting people to sell some foods prepared in their homes, are better in theory than in practice. Texas legislators got their state's law wrong the first time around, but then found ways to improve it.

But Texas can still do more.

As I noted in my craft beer column, for example, even after its most recent reforms, the state still does not allow breweries to sell to-go beer growlers to customers.

Texas's deregulatory climate is great for small food businesses and their customers. The state legislature has shown that it can strike down or revise bad laws and pass good ones. Let's hope that trend continues.

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  • np||

    Texas, you disappoint me.

    In general, rather than add more new "permissive" laws or revise them, which simply tweaks the list of arbitrarily specific things you may or may not do (what kinds of foods to offer, how much, how they are prepared, how they are offered, etc), what's needed is repeal.

    I mean it's very simple and easy and completely effortless. No work to figure out policy; no work for government.

  • Generic Stranger||

    When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. And in the case of legislatures, its a fucking sledge hammer, and not one of those fancy claw hammers.

  • Deep Lurker||

    The law isn't a hammer. It's a spiky mace; something that combines the dangerous imprecision of a blunt instrument with the dangerous blood-shedding abilities of a sharp one.

  • RBS||

    no work for government.

    And there is the problem.

  • Pope Jimbo||

    It is a slippery slope, I tell ya!

    "From a distance, I would argue you can't tell the difference. So how can you go to this one person and say 'oh, that's tobacco, you're out of here' and 'oh wait, that's not, that's an e-cigarette so you can stay?'" she asked. "Once you start picking and choosing what's allowed, that's a slippery slope you go down."


    Emphasis is mine.

    This was in regards to a recent ban on e-cigs in Duluth, MN

  • mad libertarian guy||

    The rash of e-cigarette bans in the US shows unequivocally that those with a tobacco ban boner are not concerned one fucking iota about people's health. These people should be herded together and deposited in Detroit for the good of society.

  • Pope Jimbo||

    Exactly. Our state epidemiologist weighed in (couldn't find the exact quote though) to the effect that "We don't have any proof it is harmful, but we should ban it just to be safe."

    And as a commenter said in the article, "I thought tobacco smoke was so powerful a whiff of it would sicken you in an outdoor stadium. Now you tell me that you can't tell the difference?"

    I like your idea about Detroit internment camps. But have you filed the appropriate environmental impact studies?

  • From the Tundra||

    Since when do they need proof? IIRC, even the second-hand smoke panic was based on junk science.

    I'm not following their thought processes here. From what I've seen, the e-cigs are extraordinarily effective in helping people quit. Isn't that what they want? A world without tobacco?

  • R C Dean||

    No, they want a world without smokers. Or anything that looks like tobacco.

    Kinda like the gun banners, have long ago effectively banned full-auto or select-fire military rifles, going after guns that just look like military rifles.

  • Swiss Servator, Spare a Franc?||

    I would go further - it is not about a ban of a particular thing, it is purely the power over others. Dominion over their fellow man is the only thing they want.

  • Jon Lester||

    "Escape from New York" could be re-imagined and set in Detroit, and audiences would find it perfectly plausible.

  • np||

    OMG, the slippery slope of freedom! Giving people an alternative to smoking will undermine our smoking ban!

  • Robert||

    Yeah, what's needed is repeal, and I want a pony.

    Hostage negotiation. That's all you've got to know.

    Compromises need to be crafted. Any move toward freedom is good, no matter how far it leaves you from total freedom. Sometimes complexity in the law is a good way to put together winning coalitions in getting a better compromise than whatever compromise existed previously.

  • sarcasmic||

    That which is not explicitly permitted is forbidden.

    Freedom means asking permission and taking orders.

  • Choey||

    Actually with the idiotliberals, you are free to do whatever you want so long as it's mandatory.

  • RBS||

    Well, my wife and the baby are on their way to TN to visit her parents. As heartbroken as I am that I won't be spending the next week with my in laws, life must go on. Anyone read any good sci-fi lately? I have a week so I should be able to knock out a couple of books.

  • db||

    I suggest playing Kerbal Space Progeam instead. Your wife and child will be back before you know it and you will have accomplished exactly nothing all week. A true vacation.

  • RBS||

    Downloading the demo...

  • Agammamon||

    'The Quantum Thief' by Hannu Rajaniemi
    'The Night Sessions' by Ken Mcleod
    'The Windup Girl' by Paolo Bacigalupi

  • Snark Plissken||

    Last book I really enjoyed was Live By Night by Dennis Lehane. Not scifi, but 30s Irish gangster.

  • Lady Bertrum||

    The Wool series by Hugh Howey is fun. The first one is also free to download.

  • Lady Bertrum||

  • sarcasmic||

    I've been on a short story bender. Shattered from the Shatterzone franchise was pretty good, as was the Nebula Awards 2002. Orbits 5 not so much.

    Before that I was reading Stephen King's Gunslinger series.

  • Ted S.||

    "As delicious as those samples may be, health officials are saying the sampling and cooking in farmers markets could be harmful,"

    Interactions with the police could be harmful to your health, too. Or your puppy's health.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    Get a load of this shit . . .

    In the debate concerning vaccines and autism, Medical Daily (a reasonably respectable outlet for medical information) the (clearlhy idiotic statist of an author) author writes:

    While nearly all the scientific evidence shows the MMR vaccine to be safe and effective for children, a small minority of studies showing a link between the development of autism spectrum disorder and the MMR vaccine has fuelled pockets of resistance to childhood immunizations for the past 15 years. And while all public health authorities in the U.S. and the U.K. have stated unequivocally that the MMR vaccine is safe, a libertarian distrust of public health officials in the two countries has led to shifting personal health practices.

    A libertarian distrust? Voices such as Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey are the representatives of libertarian? What. The. Fuck. There is nothing libertarian about ignoring obvious leaps in medical treatments that help eradicate disease, even if the government also supports them (which is the argument).

    Goddammit I hate how the media constantly frames libertarianism wrongly. It's almost like they don't know a goddamn thing about it.

  • RBS||

    Apparently I'm the most evil person my friends and family know, at least according to the media.

  • Ted S.||

    They know about it and are scared about it because we refuse to be cowed?

  • Scarecrow Repair||

    They make their money by selling Nervous Nellies to their advertisers. Not only does this encourage them to make Nelly nervous, it also means you, the self-thinking kind, are not likely to be made nervous, and so they sneer at you as their sworn enemy.

  • db||

    They think all libertarians are the old 1890s style bomb-throwing anarchists. They really don't understand because their entire political woldview was formed by history and "social studies" textbooks that were written from the point of view of big government as savior. For them the truth is that without Upton Sinclair and his ilk, the human race would still be eating poison forced on them by evil capalitalist overlords.

    They are incurious in the extreme. And they are the ones that get to sbape the opinions of your fellow citizens.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    Incurious doesn't even begin to describe statist fucks.

  • C. S. P. Schofield||

    Why should Libertarianism be different?

  • Snark Plissken||

    It's almost like they don't know a goddamn thing about it.

    That's being charitable. It's more like they purposely go out of their way to tar libertarianism as a bunch of wacko birds.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Libertarianism has tended to draw the ultra-paranoid anti-government anti-flouride psycho nuts.

  • everyone||

    This is why Shrike scores 94 on the libertarian purity test (the 6 is his pro-government side).


    Palin's Buttplug| 9.2.13 @ 5:57PM |#

    If everyone agreed with me I would quit posting.
  • R C Dean||

    Nice.

  • Irish||

    Libertarianism has tended to draw the ultra-paranoid anti-government anti-flouride psycho nuts.

    Ultra paranoid: Every election that the Democrats lose is the result of voter suppression or the vile Kochtopus. Corporations would love nothing more than to murder all their customers.

    There are fringe paranoiacs in the libertarian movement, but the Democratic party runs on pure paranoia and delusion. Most anti-flouride activists are leftists as well.

  • General Butt Naked||

    Another bone to pick:

    While nearly all the scientific evidence shows the MMR vaccine to be safe and effective for children, a small minority of studies showing a link between the development of autism spectrum disorder and the MMR vaccine

    It was one goddamn paper that the press latched onto that created this fucking mess. It wasn't goddamn libertarians; it was the scientifically illiterate mainstream media outlets that pushed the autism story, even after the lancet paper was roundly disproven. It was another "silicone breasts cause every disease" and "audis accelerate by themselves" moment for the stupid partisan fucks that are supposed to provide information to the public: the press.

    I remember a quote by a scifi writer about how he would read an article about something sciency and it would be riddled with mistruths, lies and inaccuracies. He then realized that he could never trust those same writers on intricate matters such as the economy or middle east politics or a 1000 page bill coming up for a vote.

    There's a book I read many years ago that addresses this. Galileo's Revenge. It's about courtroom junk science, but indicts the media as well.

  • Finrod||

    Michael Crichton:

    Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward – reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them.
    In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.

  • General Butt Naked||

    That's it.

  • Robert||

    I don't think there's really an amnesia. Of course everyone who has direct knowledge of even an isolated event knows how badly news reports botch it (and often worse, twist it, for instance to butter somebody up), but it's not like they trust the news reports of things they don't know about to be accurate. Rather, people know they have no choice. That's the point: If it's not something you already know about, how you gonna find out about it? They realize it might well be sloppy, incomplete, twisted, or horse, bull, or chicken shit, but still think it's better than nothing, and on that score they're usually correct. Occasionally a news report is worse than nothing, but you play the odds.

    People are nowhere near so credulous as Crichton or Gell-Mann thought. And the people who tell you they put high trust in news reporting? Guess what—they're bullshitting you!

  • sarcasmic||

    Goddammit I hate how the media constantly frames libertarianism wrongly. It's almost like they don't know a goddamn thing about it.

    Or they simply can't comprehend the concept of limited government.

    Time to quote Bastiat.

    Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all.

    We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain.

    It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to have health care because we do not want the government to control the health care system.

  • Robert||

    Uh, mad guy—the word "libertarian" was long in use before acquiring the meaning you think it has, and it still has its previous meanings too.

  • Robert||

    You wanna be like the guys who seize on the meaning "organic" has now in "organic chemistry", and argue with people using the word in its earlier meaning over what's "organic"?

  • mad libertarian guy||

    Of course it does.

    But we both know damn well that isn't at all what the author was going for. He was going for the meaning that is in common use now.

  • Rich||

  • Irish||

    I like that leftists freak out about the NSA spying, but apparently see no problem with the IRS having access to all your medical files or the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau looking at all your credit cards.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    NSA spying is terrible because BOOOOOOSH, but those others are okay because KKKAPITULIZMZ!

  • VG Zaytsev||

    BTW whatever happened to the penumbra of privacy cited in Roe-v-Wade?

  • Snark Plissken||

    I'm pretty sure the OT is redundant on weekend threads.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    The Dodd-Frank Act, which established CFPB, bars the bureau from collecting personally identifiable financial information on consumers and prohibits it from regulating practicing attorneys.

    Bachus said Cordray “exceeded his authority” and violated both provisions if he tried to use the trustee program to obtain files from a company that maintains a document archive for thousands of bankruptcy case attorneys.

    “He [Cordray] basically said to me, ‘We needed to do this. This was something we thought we ought to do.’ He never said, ‘OK, it probably violates two provisions of the law,’ a very clear 'Do not do this,' ” Bachus said.

    So bureaucrats are free to violate black letter law and tell the legislators that created their agency to go fuck themselves.

    And some people still claim that the US isn't a police state.

  • Ted S.||

    Only four out of five? Why not the other 20%, too?

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Now if the good Gov. Rick W. Perry and his cronies would just allow direct Tesla sales in Texas they might not be such hypocrites on regulation.

  • Swiss Servator, Spare a Franc?||

    Tu quoque is all you know, isn't it?

    Did you read the article or just leap to reply to the voices in your head? TX is not there yet, just moving in the right direction.

    Maybe you would prefer CA or NY or Chicago style stifling regulation instead?

  • MrMorden||

    I'd prefer WA-style stifling regulation. Better gun laws than Texas; better gambling laws than Texas; better liquor laws than Texas; better coffee than Texas. As far as I can tell, Texas is big-government-o-rama.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Surprise, some lying scumbag from Mayors Against Legal Guns is on MSNBC.

    He blames the KOCHTOPUS! for the recall vote in Colorado. They hatesss America, and they want you to die, preferably from some form of lung disease.

    Also. that new background check law stopped violent insane desperadoes from buying guns, and saved hundreds, if not thousands, of lives.

  • np||

  • mad libertarian guy||

    FTA:

    Fall in Japan, like every season in Japan, is a chance for companies to come up with new seasonal convenience store items with fancy color-coded packages. And in summer’s case, tons and tons of salt. In the fall, especially, manufacturers gear up with all kinds of crazy concoctions because it’s (probably) a verifiable fact that everybody eats like a damn starved pig in the fall and they know you’ll eat or drink just about anything if they put some pretty fall leaves on the package.

    People would probably eat just about anything in the fall without the crazy marketing schemes too. It seems that it would be an evolutionary biological imperative to eat as much as you can when food is aplenty (immediately after the harvest season) and you're about to enter the time of year when resources are thin. It's called surviving winter, not being taken in by marketing.

  • np||

    This burger chain is also helping you with that imperative too:
    http://www.japantoday.com/cate.....-promotion

    Fed up with Japanese-sized fast food portions? Tired of ordering a large and getting something that might fit in a happy meal in a North American store? Lotteria’s got a fall special that is sure to make any burger enthusiast’s day.

  • Robert||

    Is it for the people who saw the sign outside Wendy's, "HOME OF THE 32-OZ. BIGGIE", and hoped it referred to a hamburger?

  • Robert||

    They both sound terrif, especially if the ginger ale can is self-heating. Keep the carbonation light in the hot drink, and keep the mango yogurt noodles cold, and with nice soft udon, not al dente.

    Pinecone, if you're reading, I WANT THIS PRODUCT concerning each one, max. Can't say I need either, though.

  • Slammer||

  • Irish||

    Watching liberals admit they're losing on guns is just wonderful.

    The supposedly new-and-improved gun-control lobby was convinced that conventional wisdom was out of date. It set out to convince politicians that the landscape had changed. It had a less inflammatory message and more modest goals than the would-be gun-prohibitionists of the 1980s and '90s. It had a public that seemed galvanized by the shootings in Tucson and Aurora and Newtown, and polling data that seemed to show voters overwhelmingly supportive of its aims. The NRA's message and tactics, by contrast, seemed laughably antique and tone deaf. A vote for gun control, advocates claimed, wasn't just a safe vote; it was the only safe vote. Senators who voted against the federal gun-control bill were punished with ad campaigns and saw their approval ratings dip. For the first time, the terrible calculus of politics seemed to be on gun-control advocates' side.

    No. The polls were specifically about ANY background checks not about specific laws and are therefore useless. The goals of the gun controllers seemed moderate and the NRA seemed out of touch...to New York liberals.

    They really don't seem to get that the whole country is not New York, and that in much of this country there are a hell of a lot of Democrats who love the NRA and love their guns. Liberals are so ignorant it's unbelievable.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    For the first time, the terrible calculus of politics seemed to be on gun-control advocates' side.

    It's "terrible calculus" when conservatives win a particular political battle, and The Will of the People when liberals end out on top.

    They understand that democracy is a double edged sword, but can't seem to do anything other than blame some other entity when things don't go their way. It isn't that most people don't favor gun control efforts, it's the NRA and their bullying tactics.

    Big City liberals live in the hive and expect that we should all cater to their values because CRIME!!!! Forget that the Commonwealth of KY will have fewer homicide via gun in 5 years than New York will have this year, we all need the same rules.

  • Finrod||

    A lot of these coastal liberals are only vaguely aware of places like Ohio, and that only because some writer that doesn't know any more than they do wrote something about it.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    White Guilt run amok.

    There can never be forgiveness if we do not first admit our mistakes. Five years ago we surprised the world and elected our first black president. We thought we had finally turned a corner in the issue of race. Yet, polling shows that racism actually increased during Barack Obama's first term in office.

    Racism is a sin for which we have never atoned. It is a grave injustice that must be addressed before we can ever truly move forward as one nation.

    I organized a petition drive that called on the United States Congress to pass a resolution of apology. A reporter asked me at the time, "Why is this so important to you, Mr. Douglas? You're not black."

    "But I'm a Jew. My people were slaves several thousand years ago in Egypt." While he was writing, I couldn't resist: "And you know, I'm still waiting for an apology from Egypt."

    I was very disappointed that the resolution of apology did not pass the full Congress. I still am. Because since the end of the Civil War, racism continues -- even flourishes - in many parts of our nation.

    Show me a place in America where racism "flourishes" and I'll show you a guy who is full of shit.

  • RBS||

    racism continues -- even flourishes - in many parts of our nation the world.
  • General Butt Naked||

    "But I'm a Jew. My people were slaves several thousand years ago in Egypt." While he was writing, I couldn't resist: "And you know, I'm still waiting for an apology from Egypt."

    It seems that he realizes that making people pay for the sins of their ancestors is fucking stupid, but he can't make the connection to his present campaign. Unless he's serious about the Egypt thing. If so, then he's so far off the reservation (har har) as to not to be taken seriously. Another lonely, mad voice railing loudly at dead and deaf injustices. A fucking loon.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    The Israelites got compensated by taking spoils from the Egyptians - you take our freedom, we leave and we take your stuff with us, so we're squared. Does he not know this?

  • Robert||

    Not only that, but the Egypt story is extremely unlikely to be true in even its barest outline. There may have been some Jews in Egypt, but if there was even any slavery there, it was not systematic.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    OK, I get how people question the historicity of the Exodus story, but on the grounds that there was no systematic slavery in Egypt? Are we doing a narrow definition of slavery, because I had the impression that there was some form of compulsory labor service, possibly for a majority of the population.

  • R C Dean||

    There can never be forgiveness if we do not first admit our mistakes.

    Who's this "we" that you are part of that is still racist, Kemosabe?

    Because I'm not, and don't have any mistakes to admit.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    Racism is a sin for which we have never atoned. It is a grave injustice that must be addressed before we can ever truly move forward as one nation.

    Racism as original sin; a good example of progressivism being a religious offshoot of Christianity.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    It's a Christianity-substitute, and a lame one at that.

  • Finrod||

    Racism flourishes in the backs of the heads of people that write this kind of bullshit, and they project it onto everyone else.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    I'd be the first to admit that we over diagnose illness in this country, but this article seems designed to prime people for Obamacare than to deal with the problem.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    The Tea Party is EXTREME. But so is the current leadership!!!

    They're back - and they're more extreme than ever. GOP House leaders John Boehner and Eric Cantor are still pushing economic ideas disproved a century ago, peddling deep spending cuts that would inflict more misery on the already-beleaguered majority. But that's not enough for the even more extreme right, for the politicians named Cruz and Paul and Lee, for the groups with names like "FreedomWorks" and "Club for Growth," and for the moneyed interests who fund them all.

    The new Republican right is a tangled nest of snakes. Legislators and observers reach into it at their own risk.

    But however beyond the pale these new forces may seem, remember: The fact that their enemies are extreme doesn't mean that Boehner and Cantor aren't.

    There is no way these guys argue on principle. They just EVUL!

    And people wonder why we can't have a civilized political discussion. It's the Republicans' fault!!

  • Heroic Mulatto||

  • mad libertarian guy||

    EVUL SEKWESTRASHUN!!!!

    The Air Force will no longer be giving free flu shots to civilian employees this year, due to the federal budget cuts known as sequestration.

    "The federal budget cuts known as sequestration." LOL

    And if taking away "free" shots was evul enough:

    Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health, is also concerned that sequestration will make it harder to fight the flu. He recently told The Huffington Post that a universal flu vaccine could potentially be developed in the next five years, but that work will be significantly slowed due to budget cuts.

    "If you want to convert this into real meaningful numbers, that means people are going to die of influenza five years from now because we don't yet have the universal vaccine," said Collins. "And God help us if we get a worldwide pandemic that emerges in the next five years, which takes a long time to prepare a vaccine for. If we had the universal vaccine, it would work for that too."

    SHPEEPLE ARE GOING TO DIE BECUZ OF SEKWESTRASHUN!!!!!

  • mad libertarian guy||

  • General Butt Naked||

    I'm thinking that cancelling one of the president's many diplomatic junkets vacations would pay for these shots. But Dear Leader mustn't suffer needlessly.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    NRA, Agent of DOOM

    Federal legislation expanding background check requirements for gun buyers fell five votes short in the Senate in April, despite political momentum from last December's massacre at a Connecticut elementary school. Gun control backers say they have yet to win a single new Senate supporter, and many worry that the muscle shown by pro-gun groups and voters last week in Colorado will make it even harder to find converts.

    "The NRA does its job better than our side does our job," said Jim Kessler, a co-founder of Third Way, which advocates for centrist Democratic policies. "They know how to influence and intimidate elected people."

    Those poor, deluded Coloradoans; they probably don't even realize they were victimized by evil mind control rays. If only there were some way to reach them.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    It's interesting how they frame it: "he NRA does its job better than our side does our job[.]" As if people are simply automatons that are programmed to to make up our minds based on how a particular message is delivered. I make my decisions, including decisions concerning firearms, based on my own personal needs and wants, not on how some think tank lays out their argument.

    It's not that the NRA does it's job better. I don't listen to the NRA either. I use my life experiences to inform my opinions and go from there. Anything else is just background noise that needs to be filtered out.

    And politicians aren't afraid of the NRA, they're afraid of their voters kicking them out on their asses because history shows that is EXACTLY what happens when politicians vote in favor of gun control regulations.

  • General Butt Naked||

    Yup. If the NRA started saying that we should have expanded background checks or magazine bans, they'd receive nary a dollar form me ever again.

  • SIV||

    expanded background checks or magazine bans

    The NRA isn't going to go full-Cato anytime soon.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    It's interesting how they frame it: "he NRA does its job better than our side does our job[.]"

    The interesting part is that he sees gun grabbing as a job - something that is done for monetary gain.

    So who's paying him and why?

  • Generic Stranger||

    The ironic thing is that the NRA was late to the game in Colorado. The recall effort was started and largely run by locals who were simply pissed off at their representatives. The NRA didn't step in until it started to look like the it might succeed.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    The recall drew national attention and became a proxy fight between gun control and gun rights forces. New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, an advocate for stricter gun laws with his group Mayor's Against Illegal Guns, contributed around $350,000 to the two Democrats. The NRA spent roughly the same amount opposing them.

    Overall, reported contributions to Morse and Giron totaled around $3 million, giving them a 5-1 advantage over recall supporters. Yet foes of the two state senators found enough angry voters to prevail.

    Wait, what?

  • SIV||

    UNFAIR

    The gun manufacturers lobby had ANGER and HATE on their side.

    How can modest reasonable common-sense gun safety measures demanded by 90% of the people prevail in a CLIMATE of HATE.

    I fear Democracy is broken and our country has become ungovernable.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    And now, a word from National Propaganda Radio:

    Even in a state that has seen two of the most horrific mass shootings — Columbine (1999) and Aurora (2012) — the gun control issue remains fiercely divisive and a topic that is far from settled. The new Colorado laws, which remain on the books, are popular with the general public. But this is a Western state with a strong gun culture. Those voters are active and motivated — and committed voters trump public opinion, especially in a low-turnout, summertime special election.

    Everybody who's not an insane radicalized loser agrees with me, but I am a victim of the tyranny of the minority.

  • R C Dean||

    The new Colorado laws, which remain on the books, are popular with the general public.

    Which explains why voting for those laws is a political death sentence.

    Has anyone actually surveyed Colorado voters on these specific laws?

  • General Butt Naked||

    Has anyone actually surveyed Colorado voters on these specific laws?

    Yes. Using cleverly worded polls it was found that 90% of Colorodans agree with the laws.

    "Do you think that racist baby murderers should have access to high powered military style weaponry?"

  • buybuydandavis||

    "As delicious as those samples may be, health officials are saying the sampling and cooking in farmers markets could be harmful,"

    They "could be harmful", but in comparison, I know that health officials *are harmful*.

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