The Loughner Panic

Breaking down the media/political breakdown over the Tucson massacre

Two hours after a deranged college dropout named Jared Lee Loughner opened fire on a congresswoman’s meet-and-greet outside a Tucson supermarket, killing six and wounding 13 others, the influential progressive blogger Markos “Daily Kos” Moulitsas fouled Twitter with this grotesque message: “Mission accomplished, Sarah Palin.” Several hours later The New York Times reported in its front-page coverage that the massacre “set off what is likely to be a wrenching debate over anger and violence in American politics.” We soon got a rather different “wrenching debate,” over the media’s rush to blame the violence on political rhetoric, especially the right-of-center variety.

This wasn’t the first time during Barack Obama’s presidency that Republicans, Tea Partiers, and libertarians were blamed for the murderous rampage of a gunman who was none of the above. Nor is it likely to be the last. But the post-massacre recriminations illuminated the sickness of our political discourse, including the instinct to grasp at “solutions” requiring that we surrender still more of our freedoms to a sporadically competent state.

The bewildering and disheartening days following the attack were dominated by connect-the-dots “paranoia of the center” (in Managing Editor Jesse Walker’s memorable coinage). But a silver lining emerged even before President Obama’s stirring, unifying eulogy at the University of Arizona: The American people, by a solid majority, never bought into the narrative that political speech produced this heinous act. Nor did most Americans blame loose gun laws or the other scapegoats invoked in the days after the murders. And as of press time, few of the hurried, post-massacre legislative proposals designed to prevent the next tragedy appeared to be gathering momentum. 

In this package, reason examines the most fanciful theories about Loughner’s rampage, highlights some of the more extreme post-shooting policy ideas (including involuntary commitment of the mentally disturbed), and analyzes the ways in which Loughner’s profile resembles those of political assassins throughout history. We also explore the more direct—and more deadly—link between political rhetoric and violence when it comes to the war on drugs and the militarization of police. To kick things off, we take a look at perhaps the only salutary side effect of this hideous moment: In their rush to judgment and eagerness to politicize, Democrats, Republicans, and the mainstream media hastened the process of their own undoing.

The Politicization of Everything: Why Americans increasingly hate Democrats and Republicans. By Nick Gillespie.

The Deadliest Rhetoric: Critics who link anti-government speech to violence ignore the violence committed by a government "at war." By Radley Balko.

Unpacking Jared Lee Loughner: If you're the Southern Poverty Law Center, the media will treat your guesses like gold. By Jesse Walker.

Just Your Typical Would-Be Assassin: Jared Loughner fits the profile of a killer—but not in the way you might think. By Ronald Bailey.

From Reefer Madness to the Hays Code: Pundits go mad looking for Tucson massacre scapegoats. By Katherine Mangu-Ward.

Looking for Loughners: Would laxer commitment rules make us safer? By Jacob Sullum.

Gun Control Couldn't Have Stopped It: The Tucson massacre should not lead to new restrictions on firearms. By Brian Doherty.

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  • ||

    On campus here they are havling talks about "identifying troubled students" and responding to them, called "Learn without Concern".

    Now that all seems fine so long as the "identification" of a "troubled student" is confined to actual mental illness.

    The problem is that in the wake of the shootings, groups like the SPLC identified things like enjoying 'We the Living' and 'one Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest' as marks of a dangerous anti-government mindset.

    Plus, I'm well aware that there are students and professors on this campus who would not hestiate to report an outspoken libertarian as a potentially "troubled student". Some of them are fucking malicious like that.

  • ||

    I have an idea. Let's use this for political theater. That will make things better.

  • ||

    Speaking of political theater, Donderooooooooo wants to know why libertarians are silent about radical islam.
    http://bigpeace.com/edondero/2.....cal-islam/

  • Hugh Akston||

    Without dirtying my browser cache by actually clicking on the link, I will predict that the answer is the same as why moderate Muslims are silent about radical Islam: because we are secretly in favor of it. Allah Akbar!

  • ||

    DONDERRROOOOOOOOO

    I miss doing that.

  • ||

    Silent? I've suggested ending our meddling ways in the Middle East, citing that even the oil reason is less than compelling since most of our oil comes from elsewhere.

    But maybe he meant other, more prominent libertarians. Like Kurt Russell.

  • ||

    For a quick glance at the article I think he's referring to the libertarians in the House.

    Libertarians representives not jumping on the King band wagon, need one even ask why? DONDERRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOO

    I miss doing that too Epi.

  • ||

    Libertarians in the House? If I remember his positions correctly, Giuliani was a libertarian.

  • ||

    What's funny is he mentions Reason.

    Nothing said about it here. ;-)

  • ||

    I don't get it. The general libertarian position on the WoT couldn't be much clearer. And most of us don't consider the Islamic terrorist threat to be great enough to throw civil liberties and limited government under the bus.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Fuckin' SPLC. How does it work?

  • SPLC||

    It's easy:

    Step 1: Claim that everyone right-of-center are racism-fueled traitors

    Step 2:

    Step 3: Profit!

  • Amateur Sociologist||

    Step 2 in that is "agitate batshit leftwing donors".

  • Highway||

    Your basis point is incorrect. It's "everyone to the right of the SPLC".

  • Underpants Gnomes||

    WE didn't need a Step 2...

  • Libertarian||

    For the love of god, isn't there another photo that can illustrate these articles!?!

  • Pip||

    I agree. You are feeding the beast.

  • ||

    I don't get why people complain about this picture. It's awesome. So much crazy in one compressed instant.

  • ||

    I don't like the media love of promoting the useless mugs of these assholes. And their pathetic lives. When can I see his story on Lifetime?

  • if i had to guess||

    i'd say people are sick of it because it's beyond over-used yet still disgusting to behold, but at this point the disgust is borne more of a holy-shit-even-so-much-compressed-crazy-can-be-played-the-fuck-out attitude...& then there are likely plenty of people who never thought it was awesome to begin with...

  • Robert||

    What "crazy"? It's a bald guy with a little grin, just enough to tell you not to take things so seriously, without getting sappy about it. I think they should run it frequently as a bit of relief from all the awful shit we read about here.

  • ||

    I agree with Episiarch for once - I paid good money to see Travis Bickle(?) and other fictional nutcases in films.

    Plus there is Glenn Beck - same shit different outcome.

  • ||

    A Glenn Beck film would be a chick flick. Bring your tissue.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    shrike is still a statist 'tard, no matter how many bones he tries to throw.

  • juris imprudent||

    Well know we know someone is doing a shrike-spoof.

  • juris imprudent||

    now, now, now

    One day that preview function will do its job.

  • LarryA||

    Amen. Please lose that graphic.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Whatever happened to that Loughner guy, anyway? Does he even still exist?

    Anywho, it seems TIME magazine has gotten over the rush to civility of phrasing with this headline.

  • Pip||

    "Wisconsin's Governor Wins, but Is He Now Dead Man Walker?"

    Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

  • ||

    I thought deficits, war, and the culture of violence were bad?

    Jesus, how do they keep up with their own platform?

  • Doktor Zombie||

    oh science, I loathe puns.

  • Virginia||

    Newsweek is news for the illiterate and USA Today is a glorified comics section. What audience does that leave TIME? Is Sean Penn his own demographic?

  • Apogee||

    What audience does that leave TIME?

    "Time is and always will be a magazine for children"

  • ||

    Now how will the editors at TIME feel if someone shoots Scott Walker? Huh ? HUH?

    Answer: I predict they won't even notice the irony.

  • Colin||

    Just today, Newsspeak came out with an article on how 2,500 people have been shot dead since Loughner, implying that, if only we had Big Brother controlling guns, they'd all be alive today -- happy and having fun, all the time.

  • Tony||

    Are you suggesting they'd all still be dead if we had stricter gun control? Some people think saving thousands of lives per year might be a worthy policy goal.

  • ||

    Go away. You are literally the most tiresome sockpuppet ever. The novelty is over. Do a new character. Something other than this utterly stale shit.

  • Pip||

    PARK YOUR FUCKING CARS!!!

    Go suck a diseased cock, Tony.

  • Doktor Zombie||

    Tony, how do you know they wouldn't have been stabbed or strangled to death?

  • ||

    ""Are you suggesting they'd all still be dead if we had stricter gun control?""

    Why yes he is.

    You seem to imply they would not. Neither would be easy to prove but a couple of things are true, many of those did have legal guns, and some would have used something other than a gun. Thinking stricter gun conrol would have saved those lives is just being ignorant of human nature. When a human wants to kill, it picks a tool. Just because guns are an easy tool and common tool, doesn't mean they are the only tool.

  • ||

    The absence of the most popular tool simply means pick the next best.

  • Tony||

    So the proliferation of a device that is specially defined to be an efficient killing machine has negligible effects on whether more people are killed?

  • Really?||

    I think it is specially designed to shoot rounds. Nothing more, nothing less.

  • Doktor Zombie||

    Ballpoint pens and golfcarts aren't designed to kill people, but they're remarkably efficient at it. Want to ban those, too?

  • Old Mexican||

    Re: Tony,

    So the proliferation of a device that is specially defined to be an efficient killing machine has negligible effects on whether more people are killed?


    You seem to be totally confused or ignorant about firearms. Unless a person is a very good shot, a pistol is NOT an efficient killing machine.

    The State is the most efficient killing machine of all time:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....yrant.html

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/book.....ter-review

  • ||

    I know you are not fucking obtuse enough to believe that restricting law abiding citizens ability to obtain firearms is somehow going to stop fucking gun violence.

  • Old Mexican||

    Re: DesigNate,

    I know you are not fucking obtuse enough


    Forget it, DN - he is that obtuse.

  • Tony||

    Seems to have an effect on homicide metrics compared to other countries. Or maybe Americans are just more pissed off than most.

  • ||

    "" Or maybe Americans are just more pissed off than most.""

    Maybe.

    But if someone is breaking into your house, and you called the cops, would you want them to show up with only a billy club?

    I have found that most anti-gun folk really are not anti-gun. They expect to have one arrive when they call 911. What I have found them to be are people who just want things their way without having to pay attention to the bigger picture.

  • ||

    I have found that most anti-gun folk really are not anti-gun. They expect to have one arrive when they call 911. What I have found them to be are people who just want things their way without having to pay attention to the bigger picture.

    Exactly. They fancy themselves as morally superior simply because they don't carry or shoot the guns themselves; they pay someone else to do it for them. By that measure a gangland boss is morally superior too.

  • Tony||

    We definitely need cops with guns in this country. Mostly because everyone else has them.

  • Apogee||

    ^This

  • Chairman Sheng-ji Yang||

    If you deny yourself a useful tool simply because it reminds you uncomfortably of your mortality, you have uselessly and pointlessly crippled yourself.

  • Old Mexican||

    Re: Tony,

    Seems to have an effect on homicide metrics compared to other countries.


    Not the burglary/robbery/rape metrics, though. One does not walk through the streets of Paris without being mugged, or Rome... or London.

    Or Chicago.

    Or maybe Americans are just more pissed off than most.


    But not sufficiently pissed so as to kill each other in gun shows, it would seem.

  • Edwin||

    Tony, I accept that it may be possible that guns do NOT REDUCE crime, but it is certain that they do not raise it either. State-by-state statistics prove that. More guns does NOT correlate with more crime/deaths.

    What everybody should focus on is what methods/strategies by the cops lower crime. And whatever it is, Guliani and the metro area has it - I'm baffled at how safe it has become compared to just two or three decades ago. A young friend of mine syas he can wandre around brooklyn at all hours of the night. And even our "big city" here in Jersey, Hackensack has crime significantly lower than Jersey's own average.
    I'm still kinda chicken to go to these places, but I know that fear is completely unfounded.

  • ||

    http://www.thugreport.com/

    Maybe we just have more vermin.

    They do tend to kill each other.

  • ||

    no, it really does not. For instance, there are twice as many fatal stabbings per capitain the UK as there are fatal shootings per cpaita in the US

  • ||

    capita, that is

  • ||

    ""So the proliferation of a device that is specially defined to be an efficient killing machine has negligible effects on whether more people are killed?""

    Correct.

    It all depends on the intent of humans. Humans have killed millions of people before the gun was invented. Humans have proven they do not need a gun to kill. Removing guns would not necessarily related to lives saved because humans are crafty enough, and smart enough, to use something else.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Tony, we will never have the risk-free, Nerf-coated society you seem to want. Give up.

  • Saro||

    So the proliferation of a device that is specially defined to be an efficient killing machine has negligible effects on whether more people are killed?

    So your theory is that gun shows are the most dangerous places on earth?

  • Old Mexican||

    Re: Tony,

    Are you suggesting they'd all still be dead if we had stricter gun control?


    Yes.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl.....oting-laws

    Oh, by the way - it took Google just 0.19 seconds to find a rebuttal to your stupid question.

  • Michael Ejercito||

    Are you suggesting they'd all still be dead if we had stricter gun control? Some people think saving thousands of lives per year might be a worthy policy goal.


    Of course not. After all, we all know River Phoenix's death was a hoax due to our extremely strict heroin controls.

  • ||

    Saving lives is indeed a worthy policy goal, but that doesn't preclude asking whether the means justify the end, or even whether the means will achieve the stated aim of saving lives.

  • juris imprudent||

    Of course leaving out that at least 1500-1600 of those were suicides.

  • Tony||

    Oh boo hoo. So the left lashes out at the nonstop gun rhetoric coming from the right after a mass shooting. What exactly are you guys doing here except contributing to the politicization of the issue? Your first sentence is a dig at KOS, then a bunch of whining about all the other meanie liberals. Meanwhile the right goes on not being very veiled about their violent revolution fantasies.

  • Doktor Zombie||

    nonstop gun rhetoric coming from the right

    now THAT'S funny.

  • ||

    yeah - five more teabaggers were arrested in a plot to kill a federal judge this weekend.

    Guess what - they are Joe Miller/Palin acolytes from Alaska.

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoi.....hp?ref=fpi

  • Doktor Zombie||

    Cox, reports the Daily News Miner, considers himself a sovereign citizen (someone who believes that almost all forms of government in the United States are illegitimate), and said in a lengthy courtroom speech last year that he wouldn't cooperate with the court system.

    Yeah, that's sounds like someone who would vote for Palin. Are you on crack?

  • ||

    Absolutely. They were together in the AIP, they blab on like morons about Jesusland and exhibit the same gun fetish, and they both can't find Africa on a globe.

    I suspect you are of the Hutaree/Bircher/Promise Keeper ilk yourself - your type of fanaticism needs to be put into sunlight to exhibit your pathology.

  • Old Mexican||

    Re: shrike,

    Absolutely. They were together in the AIP, they blab on like morons about Jesusland and exhibit the same gun fetish, and they both can't find Africa on a globe.


    Nobody can find Africa on a globe, as Africa is firmly situated on the Earth.

  • ||

    Pretty sure anarchists that are willing to actually commit murder aren't lining up at the polling booth, just sayin.

  • ||

    Most of the sheople who do nothing to stop the state's never ending mass murder aren't lining up to vote either.

  • Doktor Zombie||

    Since I don't know what the hell "Hutaree/Bircher/Promise Keeper" means, I say you're wrong about me. I come by my Libertarianism honestly. It is not the result of some pathology or fanaticism.

  • ||

    If you haven't discovered the wingnut right-wing militia yet I predict the Halcyon days of your batshittery are yet to come.

  • Old Mexican||

    Re: shrike,

    I predict the Halcyon days of your batshittery are yet to come.


    Sounds funny coming from you...

  • juris imprudent||

    Now THAT is irony on steroids.

  • Apogee||

    I suspect you are of the Hutaree/Bircher/Promise Keeper ilk yourself

    You think like a KKK Kleagle. Rather than debate individuals or ideas, your only course of action is to falsely categorize people and then attack your straw palace. Only You know what "those" people are like...

  • ||

    Google has detailed descriptions of the right-wing nutcase factory.

    Try it.

  • Mr. FIFY||

    Using the SPLC parameters, roughly half of all U.S. citizens are Klan-woshipping homophobes. With guns.

    And shrike buys that kind of shit-for-brains logic.

  • cynical||

    What the fuck does a fundamentalist take on gender roles in marriage have to do with militias?

  • ||

    My guess is that he got "Promise Keepers" mixed up with "Oath Keepers".

  • Bristol||

    I told mom not to promote judge killings, but she never listens to me. If only shrike were my mother. Then daddy could fuck him in the ass 'till he screams "YOU BETCHA!".

  • ||

    Quit defending the stupid whore. Palin can't garner a dime bid on Intrade.

    Obama is $62 and Romney is $12 - (Huck is $4 and I bet on him)

    I bet on the Huck - the SoCon Fundie assholes are the #1 voting block in the GOP - I expect my Huckster bet to pay off 10x after he fools the GOP brain-dead base.

  • Doktor Zombie||

    So.. your source of keen political insights come from.... Intrade?

    BWA HA HA HA HA HA

  • ||

    No, its a MARKET for political insight backed by dollars.

    Unlike your insipid opinion there are consequences involved in a market.

  • Old Mexican||

    Re: shrike,

    No, its a MARKET for political insight backed by dollars.


    It's actually no better than sports gambling.

    Unlike your insipid opinion there are consequences involved in a market.


    Yes - the same as in sports gambling.

  • Old Mexican||

    Re: Tony,

    So the left lashes out at the nonstop gun rhetoric coming from the right after a mass shooting.


    Read: So the left lied. So what?

    What exactly are you guys doing here except contributing to the politicization of the issue?


    Read: Pointing out that they lied is just politics.

    Meanwhile the right goes on not being very veiled about their violent revolution fantasies.


    Read: Even though the left lied, it was not really a lie because the right is kooky, so there.

    The ethics lectures from Tony must be fascinating.

  • Michael Ejercito||

    The ethics lectures from Tony must be fascinating.


    What else can you expect from his kind?

    Read Leviticus 20:13 for God's view.

  • ||

    Meanwhile the right goes on not being very veiled about their violent revolution fantasies.

    And you'll be one of the first againct the wall when that Revolution comes.

  • Name Nomad||

    I'd (almost) like to see someone armed with a spear successfully stab multiple people in a crowd just to see how the media would react.

  • ||

    Especially if the crowd was a cop roll call.

  • Robert||

    I've long had a fantasy image in my mind of human shishkebab, a bunch of people lined up just right so they all fit on the same skewer -- and the ones behind the one in front don't even see it coming!

  • Mr. FIFY||

    A call for an American version of shit like this?

    http://gunsandknivestakelives.com/

  • Ted S.||

  • ||

    [I'd (almost) like to see someone armed with a spear successfully stab multiple people in a crowd just to see how the media would react.]

    You've forgotten the boxcutters already??

  • Robert||

    Have I mentioned enough times how much I love that picture? It makes a bad day feel a little brighter. Just the look on that face says you can face any adversity.

  • ||

    He is just another "sound money" yokel like Ron Paul - the vacuity and desolation is prevalent in their starstruck eyes.

  • Old Mexican||

    Re: shrike,

    He is just another "sound money" yokel like Ron Paul


    He is not and, besides, sounds odd that you would consider anybody that espouses a sound currency as being a yokel, as it would indicate you espouse having UNsound currency.

  • ||

    We already have a sound currency - realists like myself don't just equate it with a shiny metal.

  • Old Mexican||

    Re: Shrike,

    We already have a sound currency - realists like myself don't just equate it with a shiny metal.
    [...]


    So the US government was populated by surrealists during the Bretton-Woods era? Was FDR a surrealist when he confiscated the people's gold in 1933?

    The fact is, you don't have a clue of what you're talking about.

  • ||

    I know this cold you idiot.

    FDR needed gold for redemption purposes - which went away under Nixon.

    Now we have a $14 trillion debt and $380 billion worth of gold. A gold standard now would mean immediate insolvency.

  • Old Mexican||

    Re: shrike,

    I know this cold you idiot.

    FDR needed gold for redemption purposes - which went away under Nixon.


    "Redeption purposes"? You mean with the other surrealists?

    Now we have a $14 trillion debt and $380 billion worth of gold. A gold standard now would mean immediate insolvency.


    It would only mean reevaluation of the dollar, but not insolvency - I would certainly not be insolvent. Besides, your reply looks nothing better than a pragmatic fallacy.

    Also, you avoided the question: Was the government populated by surrealists from 1933 to 1971? Was the whole country populated by surrealists before 1933?

  • ||

    This is where you are completely lost.

    If the dollar were marked to gold holdings then everything else would have to be too.

    Bonds, mortgages, insurance, equity and so forth.

    So now you are a Nixon Wage and Price control fanatic to the nth degree - now including all financial instruments.

    Total fail.

  • Old Mexican||

    Re: shrike,

    This is where you are completely lost.
    If the dollar were marked to gold holdings then everything else would have to be too.


    And?

    Bonds, mortgages, insurance, equity and so forth.


    Of course - there would be a correction as assets are reevaluated. But you said there would be insolvency - how could that be? At least *I* would not be insolvent as I do have gold and silver holdings. If what you're saying is that YOU would become insolvent, well: not everybody is as foolish as you, shrike.

    So now you are a Nixon Wage and Price control fanatic to the nth degree - now including all financial instruments.


    Saying that requires a great leap in logic. I cannot fathom whence your conclusion comes.

  • Caesar tossed my salad||

    I cannot fathom whence your conclusion comes.

    About half a fathom north of his ankles.

  • Robert||

    That's it -- you can read anything you like into that face. If "sound money yokel" brightens your day, then I guess it works for you too.

  • Mendacious Douche||

    Numerous commentators and journalists began blaming Republicans, Tea Partiers, and libertarians...

    ...as anarchists rejoiced over the possible murder of a politician.

    Take it away, Episiarch!

  • Warty||

    Your reading skills are as poor as your insult skills. And I still don't give a shit about the shitbag Congresswhore.

  • ||

    Are you actually so fucking stupid that you can't tell the difference between "I don't give a shit" and "yeah!"? Wait, of course you are that fucking stupid.

  • ||

    I have a new word for you for your TEAM RED/TEAM BLUE rants: Kadavergehorsam. It's German, of course, but derived from a Latin expression, apparently.

    Literally, it means "corpse-like obedience", but the dictionary meaning is "blind obedience."

  • ||

    It's too long. It's cool, but it won't flow in a rant.

  • ||

    It's practically a one-syllable word for German.

    Use it for sub-rants, then.

  • Curly Episiarch||

    I try to think, but nothing happens!
    Nyuk nyuk nyuk!

  • Old Mexican||

    Nor did most Americans blame loose gun laws or the other scapegoats invoked in the days after the murders.


    Our resident statist fucks did, however.

  • ||

    For the love of god, isn't there another photo that can illustrate these articles!?!

    C'mon, show a little backbone, wouldja?

  • ||

    Are you suggesting they'd all still be dead if we had stricter gun control?

    Would you be happier if they'd all been pushed outta windows?

  • ||

    I don't think he would be happy unless we are all eating with plastic knives.

    I'm not sure if the gun has passed metal blades in over all killings yet. The blade has a long history.

  • ||

    Serrated? You can cut stuff with serrated plastic knives, you know.

  • ||

    True. It's a little harder to kill with, but the plastic knive doesn't have a history as a killing device. I was sticking along that line.

  • ||

    We must be totally safe from crazy people. Perhaps we could be sealed in some sort of polymer?

  • ||

    Yeah, if only someone could invent a device to protect us from crazy people. Something lightweight and easy to carry. Something that could travel distance very fast. Perhaps with a repeatable event in case there was more than one crazy person.

  • ||

    Maybe a device like that would be okay, provided that it were controlled by a robot.

  • Jim||

    Or, failing that, was only to to be used by highly trained experts exhibiting a "new professionalism", if you will, and these Nietzschean supermen would work for the government, thus ensuring their impartiality and that they would be beholden to the taxpayers that they serve and treat them with respect and dignity.

    Yeah, that's the ticket.

  • Caesar tossed my salad||

    Don't tase me, bro!

  • ||

    Yeah, and ones trained not to trip and accidentally beloved grampas. and not to shoot through walls and through the heads of sleeping children. and to not get addresses wrong and shooting innocent neighbors. and on and on.

  • ||

    God damn it!!! of course it's "shoot beloved grampas". Jesus Christ I'm a fucking idiot.

  • ||

    We already have a sound currency

    Wheeeeee!

  • ||

    Treasury buyers are snapping them up!

    10yrs are less than 3%!!!

    I am a market guy - Libertarians (the Cro-Magnon type) are always wrong.

  • ||

    shriek, you are so fucking dumb, it's stunning. I've seen athlete's foot fungus smarter than you. I've seen Michael Bay films smarter than you.

  • Jim||

    Whoa, whoa...there's no need for that kind of thing, Epi. I mean, you just crossed a line. I mean of course shrike equates roughly with an advanced lichen, but Michael Bay? Either dismiss shrike or don't, but let's not invoke the B word.

  • Jim||

    On second thought, you may have been right. I had to re-read his posts because the idiocy didn't fully break through my sanity-filter the first time. Kind of like robot heaven.

  • ||

    I don't break out the B-word lightly, dude. But in shriek's case, it's deserved.

  • ||

    More "say-nothing" nonsense from two financial illiterates.

    Sometimes an Insult-a-thon is fun! Not today for me though.

  • ||

    shriek is the person who lottery winners go to for financial advice. He's that smart.

  • Jim||

    I never even said anything about finances, so how do you know how literate I am?

    That having been said, I do favor a proposal to use oak leaves as paper currency, and acorns as coins.

  • Gilbert Martin||

    "Treasury buyers are snapping them up!"

    Tell it to Bill Gross.

  • Saro||

    You're the worst character ever, shrike.

  • ||

    I've seen Michael Bay films smarter than you.

    I say, that was uncalled for.

  • ||

    It had to be done. Because it's true.

  • ||

    He'd be in his rights if he called you out.

  • ||

    shrike-

    I know that you are smarter than the average athlete's foot fungus. Its just that Epi thinks it better to apply desenex to your posts rather than patiently waiting for their intellectual quality to improve.

  • 1980 Redux||

    And once again, we see the hypocrisy of the commiecrat party and their socialist stooges.

    Vote for freedom, vote GOP!

  • ||

    I think we've found someone who may be even dumber than shriek!

  • Almanian||

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    Oh, you're serious? Dumbass.

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    There are some pretty intelligent guys on this board, like Gregory Smith. Read his posts; he knows his stuff.

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    deranged college dropout named Jared Lee Loughner

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  • ||

    Seems to have an effect on homicide metrics compared to other countries. Or maybe Americans are just more pissed off than most.



    A really simpleminded person might come to that conclusion.

    Others might recognize the different history and demographics of America.

    And yet others might actually read some of the history of gun control in the world and realize that some countries that started out with almost no firearms homicides to begin with passed gun control legislation and have seen firearms homicides increase ever since.

    The US, on the other hand has seen two major homicides spikes, once after the passage of Prohibition and another after the passage of The Gun Control Act of 1968 The latter almost exactly coincides with the ramping up of the drug war as well, so your choice of causes is optional.

  • Tony||

    So "demographics" are an excuse for our homicide rates, our poor healthcare metrics, probably our poor education metrics too? And yet so completely beside the point in every case.

  • ||

    If you look at the history of gun control in nations like Japan and the U.K., you will see his point. The laws weren't even passed as crime control measures; this is in common with the U.S.

    For instance, NYC's "Sullivan Law" was triggered by xenophobia.

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  • ||

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    Granted, she always had a high negative rating, but this boosted it even more so.

    It's all about controlling the narrative, to be on the attack against the right. And it works. Every single time, because the right is too wimpy to fight back. And by the time facts come out, no one cares any more. It's the ratchet effect.

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