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Snowing where you are?
Nope. It is about 43 degrees Celsius right now! But I've heard about the ice storms in America; hope everyone is ok!
Do you regularly get snow in the summer?
It has happened from time to time, yes. But Melbourne is a weird place.
Oz has become a weird place.
I mean, yeah. No arguments there! Northern Territory is the weirdest of them all; I think the heat just does something to their brains.
We think so too, AussieTrash.
See, you didn't have to say anything there. I hadn't even said anything remotely objectionable to anyone, but you just had to come in and be an obnoxious cunt for no reason.
Didn't you? It's just a compulsion, isn't it?
(please note: there may be some language difference between how Australians and Americans use the word "cunt". In America, I believe that word is a derogatory term used mainly for women. In Australia, it's used for both men and women, and sometimes as a term of endearment. In this context, though, it has a similar meaning to "dickhead" or "fuckstool" or "shitheel". Apologies if there was any confusion)
The Phases of the Moon are reversed from the Northern Hemisphere, almost like the Earth's round or something.
Have you seen the movie Bugonia? There's a twist at the end that addresses this.
No, but it did warm up a little. It was -22F/-30C a few days ago and we haven't seen positive temps since. I hear it did get to a balmy -7F this afternoon though. 🙂
What is the news of the day? iCE agents start roughly pushing various people in Minneapolis and when a VA ICU nurse, Alex Pretti, tries to get between an ICE officer and the woman he is knocking to the ground, a gang of masked ICE officers start pepper spraying and beating on Pretti. At that point, Pretti had his phone in his right hand and his left hand was empty. As they are beating Pretti on the ground, an officer takes a gun Pretti is licensed to carry out of Pretti’s waistband, carries it away and (likely accidentally) discharges it. Other officers than fire 10 bullets into the prone and disarmed man, executing him. Now the President and his minions are smearing the deceased Pretti. I’ve had enough of this from ICE and from the Trump Administration. I’ve never wanted to live in a police state before and I don’t now.
To paraphrase a well known movie cliché, Forget it, Harry S. It's MAGAtown. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cWnubJ9CEw
Another tragic incident.
I have family members who demonstrate against ICE, But as far as I know they don't go anyfurther than wave signs from freeway overpases.
But I will definitely recommend they don't try to obstuct Federal officers in the performance of their duties, and even if they are that foolhardy, definitely do not go armed when they are doing so.
“I will definitely recommend they don't try to obstruct”
I think we should call this the Scott Bessent.
So your relatives' supposed Second Amendment rights are not a hill you are willing for them to die on? What happened to the "cold, dead hands" trope? Does that hit too close to home here?
Are you worried about your MAGA card being revoked, Kazinski?
Worship of the beloved popgun routinely demands human sacrifices.
I am not sure what the second amendment has to do with it. Even the most ardent competent 2nd Amendment advocate would advise if you are going someplace where you indend to break the law do not go armed.
If you are armed then rigorously follow the instructions of law enforcement, and do not resist. You can always sue later if you think you're rights were violated.
Even if you successfully "defend" yourself from law officers with your weapon then you will likely go to jail for the rest of your life.
The point of going armed is to increase your chances of survival from crime, anyone with half a brain should realize going armed when intending to confront law enforcement in the performance of their duties is going to vastly decrease your chances of survival, and I am sure that truism is supported by history and tradition.
Kazinski, do you actually mean to tell us that you regard your relatives' continued existence to be more important to you than their God-given, absolute right to carry popguns whenever and wherever they live and breathe?
Whatever happened to fealty to Charlton Heston's "from my cold, dead hands!" blather? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORYVCML8xeE Are you going squishy?
Actually, that shtick has never made sense to me. If someone is so intent on disarming another person that he is willing to commit murder, why on earth would he wait until the corpse's hands grow cold?
In 1789, it was well established that one did not have the right to carry guns in the midst of a rebellion.
Truman you're not.
Problems conservatives don't have:
"I Let My Wife Have an Affair. Do I Have to Console Her Now That It’s Over?"
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/24/magazine/wife-affair-ethics.html
All the news that's fit to print has a new meaning.
Yes, kaz. We talked about this the other day. It’s about dependency and control.
Sorry, I haven't been hanging around the threads much, and there isn't much incentive to wade through them to catch up.
lol ok buddy
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I am grateful that so many have made their thoughts abundantly clear yesterday and today. I ask the ultras: how do you think this ends for you? ICE shot a nurse in the streets. In the words of C_xy: belly up.
Zero immigration and a tropical paradise
That's a strange question, but the answer is its not going to affect me at all.
Although my State AG did suggest recently that more people should commit suicide by ICE.
"Arizona AG called to resign after comments on ICE and ‘Stand Your Ground’ laws'
https://www.azfamily.com/2026/01/24/arizona-ag-called-resign-after-comments-ice-stand-your-ground-laws/
“its not going to affect me at all.“
This could not be more perfect.
“At 9:05 AM CT, as DHS law enforcement officers were conducting a targeted operation in Minneapolis against an illegal alien wanted for violent assault, an individual approached US Border Patrol officers with a 9 mm semi-automatic handgun, seen here. The officers attempted to disarm the suspect but the armed suspect violently resisted. More details on the armed struggle are forthcoming
Fearing for his life and the lives and safety of fellow officers, an agent fired defensive shots. Medics on scene immediately delivered medical aid to the subject but was pronounced dead at the scene. The suspect also had 2 magazines and no ID—this looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement.”
This is the story. Reconcile it with the videos if you feel compelled to.
Does "you can't fix stupid" mean anything to you?
Why would someone put themselves in this position, especially in light of the ongoing situation in Minneapolis?
I am grateful for this response. This is one of the many varieties of excuses we will see over the next few days for this person’s murder. Excuse it if you must. But ask yourself why.
I'm not excusing anything. I take no joy in someone's death but I am also not so stupid as to insert myself in a dangerous situation.
“insert myself in a dangerous situation.“
Excuses! Do you even read what you write?
See Kaz's comment above about going armed into the middle of police activity.
What about open carry do you object to here
“ to insert myself”
Yes, Bumble, we know you’re sensible enough to just do what you’re told.
...and for you to believe what your told.
Defend what you feel you must.
How do you think this is going to end for you people? Murder nurses and call them terrorists. Like calling people bugs, i am certain that is a long term winning strategy. God bless and good luck with that.
"You people"? Says a lot about you.
What does it say
Being a Nurse doesn't give you free reign to harass Law Enforcement.
And enough with the "Saint Nurse" Bullshit, Nurse Ratchet was a Nurse, Nurse Annie ("Misery"), Nurse Cullen in "the Good Nurse", Nurses Bridgett and Miranda from American Horror Story, Nurse Noakes from "Cloud Atlas",
Oh, those are just "Fictional Nurses"??? (Cullen was real) check out Heather Pressdee, who got 3 consecutive life terms for murdering Nursing Home patients with Insulin (it's NOT the way to commit the "Perfect Murder") only convicted of 3 murders, suspected in over 50.
Frank
"I'm not excusing anything. I take no joy in someone's death . . ."
Is that as true as everything else you have said, Mr. Bumble?
Am I under oath you fucking retard?
E, it is a very bad idea to impede, obstruct or threaten an LEO performing their job duties. Two people are now dead, from their own stupidity. If there are more stupid people, like Good and Petti, then there are more deaths. That is on them.
You really have to wonder about the mentality (and morality) of people who want to protect illegal aliens who are gangbangers, drug dealers, rapists, child molesters, drunk drivers, etc. from arrest and deportation.
I am grateful for your comments.
Don't be. More will die.
Is that a threat?
You're a real fuckwit this morning.
“This morning” is actually a backhanded compliment. Oopsies! Anyways, you were talking about how this nurse shoulda been shot:
No E, it is a simple statement of fact. If you obstruct, impede or threaten an LEO performing their job duties, you are risking your life unnecessarily.
Regardless, the detection, detention and deportation of illegal aliens will not stop. Get used to it. There are at least three more years of deportations of illegal alien gangbangers, drug dealers, child molesters, rapists, murderers, drunk drivers, etc. That is also a simple statement of fact.
Cry all you want. Better yet, how about you put your money with your mouth is, and go join your leftist Ice Warrior comrades. You might get yourself a Darwin Award for your trouble.
I am extremely grateful for these comments
Hate to have to say the Baby's ugly to start the week, but "Male Nurses" (it's a commonly used term, sort of like the "Lady M.D." from the Petticoat Junction Theme) have always had a chip on their shoulders, like Male Flight Attendants, it was assumed they're Gay, so they have to act tough, and they also have the standard Nurse resentment that they're underpaid and know more than the Doctors who are always making their lives miserable. (I know, I married a Nurse, been making her life miserable for years).
If anything, the increase in Female Physicians has made the lot of the Male Nurse even worse (that rhymes!) because now they're getting bossed around by bossy women (I sort of like that, but that's just me).
You know who's most pissed at this guy? The poor Sap who's going to have to take care of his patients today, because they'll either have to call someone in from their off day, or give one of the Nurses an extra patient.
I love Nurses, my Mom was one, and I married one, they're one of the last "respectable" occupations where a lot of them still smoke, and they usually marry Physicians, other Nurses, or Cops/Firefighters/Military guys. They're also the ones doing the hard work, when the Poindexter ICU "Intensivist" orders "Blood Cultures x 2 q 2 hours" they're the ones who have to draw the blood, put the orders in the computer, bla bla bla. No wonder they hate us.
Unfortunately the move to everybody wearing Scrubs has led to the same Obesity epidemic in Nurses that's afflicted the rest of Society, a move to those old style tight skirts and starched Nurses Caps would do more for the Health of Amurica's Nurses than an Ocean of Ozempic.
Frank "Nurse!!!!! Coffee!!!!!
The virus has taken hold.
https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-884315
It’s time for Donald Trump to declare Martial Law in Minnesota, and to suspend the writ of habeas corpus.
Look at the videos of yesterday‘s shooting, not in terms of what happened with the shooting itself, but the nature of the rebellion in which it happened. That’s not even anarchy that’s an active rebellion.
I should not have to be pushing people out of its mist. You do not have a costume show right to physically disrupt law administration of justice the debt for got what he deserved, he should not have been taking a firearm into the physical confrontation with law enforcement that he should not have had. They should’ve stayed back 100 yards or so.
Is the fault of the Minneapolis Police Department, which was nowhere to be seen. They wanna go find out what happened now, well it wouldn’t have happened had they been there!
What, no nukes involved?