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No Detention Hearing or Bail Required for Two Women Charged with Disrupting St. Paul Church Service
From Judge Laura Provinzino (D. Minn.) yesterday in U.S. v. Levy-Armstrong:
Defendants … were charged by criminal complaint with conspiracy against rights in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 241. That statute makes it illegal for two or more people to "conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person" in the "free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States." {The statute provides for a $250,000 fine and up to ten years in prison.}
The affidavit supporting the complaint specifically identifies the right as the free exercise of religion at a place of religious worship. The affidavit details that on the morning of Sunday, January 18, 2026, at approximately 10:30 a.m., "a group of approximately 30-40 agitators, working together in a coordinated manner" entered a church in St. Paul during a religious service and engaged in conduct that "disrupted the religious service and intimidated, harassed, oppressed, and terrorized the parishioners, including young children, and caused the service to be cut short and forced parishioners to flee the church out of a side door, which resulted in one female victim falling and suffering an injury."
On January 22, 2026, Defendants made their initial appearances before Magistrate Judge Micko. The United States moved for a detention hearing, and Magistrate Judge Micko found a detention hearing was not authorized. {Even so, Magistrate Judge Micko asked the United States if it would have additional evidence to present were he to have held a detention hearing. The attorneys for the United States confirmed that there was no additional evidence they would offer. In addition, Magistrate Judge Micko indicated on the record that he would come to the same decision even if he had held a formal detention hearing.} …
Magistrate Judge Micko imposed individualized conditions to assure that the Defendants appear at future court proceedings and to protect the safety of the community. Those included: (1) supervision by U.S. Probation and Pretrial Services; (2) travel outside of Minnesota restricted unless approved by a supervising officer; (3) no-contact with any victims or witnesses of the charged offense; (4) no possession of a firearm, destructive device, or other weapon; and (5) at the request of the United States, a stay-away condition which reads: "Defendant shall stay away from the church location identified in the Complaint Affidavit. 'Stay away' means no closer than the public sidewalk nearest to the location of the Church." Magistrate Judge Micko ordered Defendants' release on an appearance bond.
The United States immediately moved for a stay and review and revocation of Magistrate Judge Micko's orders…. First, the United States argues that the charge at issue here—a conspiracy against rights—establishes a right to a detention hearing under 18 U.S.C. § 3142(f)(1). Under that section, a judge shall hold a hearing to determine whether any condition or combination of conditions will reasonably assure the appearance of the defendant as required and the safety of any person and the community. To proceed under Section 3142(f)(1), the United States must demonstrate that the case fits in one of five enumerated categories. The United States argues that the charge is a "crime of violence" under Section 3142(f)(1)(A) or a felony that is not otherwise a crime of violence that involves a minor victim or that involves the possession or use of a firearm or destructive device or any other dangerous weapon under Section 3142(f)(1)(E). The United States, however, offers no factual or legal support for their assertions. The Court has found none.
The charged conspiracy is not a crime of violence and does not involve a minor victim as that term is identified in Section 3142(c)(1)(B). And the Court finds more persuasive Defendants' argument that the element to "injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate" a person in the exercise of federal rights does not require physical force, as is required to qualify an offense as a "crime of violence," see 18 U.S.C. § 3156(a)(4) (defining "crime of violence" to mean an offense that has an element of physical force or an offense that, by its nature, involves a substantial risk that physical force may be used in its commission). The United States is not entitled to a bond hearing under 18 U.S.C. § 3142(f)(1)….
The United States' second argument is that detention is warranted because there is a serious risk that the Defendants will flee. The bulk of the evidence marshaled at oral argument and in the United States' subsequent brief focuses on recent activity of Defendants Levy-Armstrong and Allen.
While federal agents were surveilling Levy-Armstrong on January 21, 2026, they observed her coming and going from a hotel in downtown Minneapolis. She appeared to commit multiple traffic violations, including making rolling stops through posted stop signs. She also was observed driving the wrong way in the hotel's alley. Agents observed Levy-Armstrong with other adult women, moving between three separate hotel rooms rented by Levy-Amstrong, with suitcases and travel bags. The United States argues that this behavior is "reckless" and demonstrates "preparations to flee or relocate." Based on this evidence, the United States argues that Magistrate Judge Micko's release order does not adequately mitigate the risk of non-appearance, so detention is warranted—or, at a minimum, substantial additional conditions should be ordered.
The evidence of risk of non-appearance that the United States presents in relation to Allen is similar. Federal law enforcement surveillance of Allen showed her carrying duffle bags "suggesting movement of belongings consistent with temporary lodging or relocation." The United States also cited Allen's "history of non-appearance in court."
Defendants argue that the United States has not met its burden that they posed a "serious risk" of flight … (citing U.S. v. Cook (8th Cir. 2023) (affirming magistrate judge's determination that a "serious risk of flight" is "above and beyond just the person might not show up"). They correctly note, and the United States does not dispute, that Defendants are professionals—Levy-Armstrong is a lawyer, activist, and community leader, and Allen is an elected member of the St. Paul School Board, educator, advocate, and community leader—and they are without any substantive criminal convictions.
Defendants challenge the United States' "tenuous" risk-of-flight argument when the Defendants are staying in a hotel in the same community where they live. Defendants explain that they were staying in hotels because of the widespread dissemination of their home addresses and death threats that they have received. They argue that the United States is mischaracterizing a temporary relocation in the same community—a rational response to an immediate and serious threat, they claim—as evidence of flight.
In conducting a de novo review, it is the Court's position that, on this record, the United States has not met its burden to demonstrate a serious risk of flight under 18 U.S.C. § 3142(f)(2)(A). There is no evidence that (for example) the Defendants own homes abroad or even outside of Minnesota, or that they have family abroad, or close ties to a particular foreign country, or that they have made any plans or preparations to flee, or that they have ever knowingly evaded law-enforcement officers. To the contrary, Defendants have strong ties to Minnesota and did not flee (in fact, they are staying at a hotel in downtown Minneapolis known to federal law enforcement)—despite knowing that they were being investigated.
The United States' risk-of-flight evidence is simply speculative. And there are certainly conditions that the Court believes more than mitigates any risk of non-appearance. Indeed, Magistrate Judge Micko has imposed them, including that Defendants' travel "be restricted to Minnesota unless approved by the supervising officer." That is sufficient.
Given the United States' focus on risk of flight and request that the conditions of release must be sufficient to ensure appearance, the Court will impose two additional conditions. Those include (1) that the Defendants surrender any passport or other foreign travel document and (2) that during the pendency of this case, the Defendants not apply for or obtain a passport or other foreign travel document. With these additional conditions, the Court is confident that it has followed the Bail Reform Act's directive to impose the "least restrictive" conditions that "will reasonably assure the appearance of [Levy-Armstrong and Allen] as required and the safety of any other person and the community."
For these reasons, after conducting its own independent review, the Court agrees with Magistrate Judge Micko and finds that release is warranted because there are conditions or combination of conditions that will reasonably assure that Levy-Armstrong and Allen will appear at future proceedings and not endanger the community. The Court also has considered the United States' alternative request for a $10,000 appearance bond to be signed by the Defendants, and rejects it. The standard personal recognizance appearance bond used in this District is appropriate here. The appearance bonds, along with the individualized conditions of release that have been imposed, are sufficient to mitigate against the risk of the Defendants' non-appearance or harm to the community….
Jill Anna Brisbois (The JAB Firm) and Jordan S. Kushner represent defendants.
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Rolling through a stop sign is reckless behavior showing an intent to flee the court's jurisdiction. One more reason US Attorneys don't get the respect they used to.
Rolling a stop sign, especially if there is no immediate pedestrian, bicycle, or auto traffic nearby, is so common that it should be unremarkable. By comparison, if they were adhering to the strict letter of traffic laws like a 16 year old on a driving test, then their behavior would reasonably draw the curiosity of law enforcement.
Why did you lie so outrageously?
You skipped completely over this:
Agents observed Levy-Armstrong with other adult women, moving between three separate hotel rooms rented by Levy-Amstrong, with suitcases and travel bags.
Sad.
Lex,
I think you should look up the word "lie." You clearly don't understand the word's meaning.
Rolling through a stop sign is reckless behavior showing an intent to flee the court's jurisdiction.
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That cherry pick is a lie by omission.
Read a book.
If the government is saying in court that rolling through stop signs is reckless or shows an intent to flee, then that in and of itself is ridiculous, no matter what other evidence they may have.
"One more reason US Attorneys don't get the respect they used to."
How so?
Driving too fast is RS.
Driving too slow is RS.
Driving the speed limit is RS.
Preferring to wait in one's own car instead of the cop car is RS.
Etc.
I'm shocked the judge didn't buy it. If this were some black dude in a non-politically charged case he'd be in the can right now.
Poe’s law strikes again. It’s just not possible to tell whether you actually mean what you say or whether what you are saying is satire.
its called Slow To Observe Police
The blue state authorities are moving toward open season on conservatives in Dem 'turf'. Want to commit a crime against someone? The authorities got your back if you want to do it against conservative politician or even a ordinary conservative person in their hood. The police won't arrest, the prosecutors won't charge, and the judges and juries won't convict. Or if they're forced to they'll slowwalk to try to get you the lightest slap on the wrist they can.
This and more is across the entire country is totally justified as payback for not letting crazed activists run over federal officers.
Man shining laser pointer at Trump's helicopter found not guilty: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2026/01/17/jacob-winker-found-not-guilty-pointing-laser-trump-helicopter/88232732007/
Magistrate judge throws out charges for protestors storming church
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/magistrate-judge-rejects-charges-don-lemon-anti-ice-protest-minnesota-church/
Protestor acquitted of striking officers despite witnesses: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trumps-chief-cbp-agent-testifies-184208615.html
Man who threw sandwich at federal agent in Washington is found not guilty of assault charge
https://www.police1.com/legal/man-who-threw-sandwich-at-federal-agent-in-washington-is-found-not-guilty-of-assault-charge
Chicago PD standdowned from assistant surrounded ICE agents.
https://fop.net/2025/10/national-fop-and-illinois-state-fop-condemn-reports-that-chicago-police-officers-were-barred-from-assisting-ice-agents/
It’s why I’m not crying too many tears about the guy shot today.
I'm noticing 90% the commentary even from 'conservative' commentators about the shooting is based on video conveniently edited to cut out parts of the confrontation. Just a couple moments as ice started to push back right before the physical struggle and right before the shooting. It's almost impossible to get a full unobstructed video of the whole event for someone interested in being objective.
Because you are not mentally all there? I am not sure that is the correct answer, but it is possible.
Of course you are ok with murder.
If you dress up with a gun and go out to play cowboys and indians with federal officers than thats a risk you've chosen to take. I'm pretty sure you'd be cheering if this was a MAGA J6er.
Frankly, I am worried about a shootout at the OK Corral. I don't want ICE agents injured. Their tactics are inciting a mob.
MAGA earlier this week: How dare Hawaii (or New York, or New Jersey, or California, or ____) place any restrictions of any sort on gun carrying? The Second Amendment obviously protects all of it without any exception, and liberal legislatures and judges just hate America and act in bad faith to defy the Supreme Court if they don't agree! This is a basic human right!
MAGA yesterday: How dare this guy be carrying? When we said that it was a basic human right, we meant for us. People whose views we don't like are asking to be killed if they carry.
Strawman away, David.
Do you not understand the difference between carrying in a lawful manner and carrying while committing a crime?
The agents clearly fucked up here too and hopefully will be held responsible. Your dishonesty doesn’t help the discussion.
No; that's a strawman, because MAGA are attacking him for carrying in the first place — for bringing a gun with him — not for later supposedly committing a crime.
You heard it here first: David now speaks for MAGA.
GTFO with your idiotic strawmen.
David gets dumber as time goes on.
Pretti was carrying legally, period. It's why every gun-rights group everywhere has supported that right. Pretti was also acting idiotically, as every CCW course ever stresses that you NEVER look for trouble when carrying, and you bend over backwards to remove yourself from conflict while carrying.
"Pretti was carrying legally, period."
Yep. That's a fact.
"Pretti was also acting idiotically...."
No. That's just your opinion. What is a fact is that he wasn't doing was anything illegal. Yet still took a bunch of bullets in the back, and you're making a "he shouldn't have been dressed that way" argument.
"No. That's just your opinion. What is a fact is that he wasn't doing was anything illegal. Yet still took a bunch of bullets in the back, and you're making a "he shouldn't have been dressed that way" argument."
Nice appeal to emotion, but that's nonsense. If he was standing on the side of the road, chanting, and waving a sign he'd be home with his family right now. He made a very foolish choice that cost him his life. There's still too much we don't know, but this is a case of him finding trouble because he was clearly looking for it.
Open season on fascists like MAGAs.
In the uncut video you can hear a gunshot before any ICE have their guns drawn.
The rebel shot first.
Highly unlikely since and ICE/CPB agent already had his gun when the first shot was fired.
What actually seems to have happened was he had a particularly shitty cheap gun that is one of the rare ones that does go off by itself like they claim all do. So he got shot because as a leftist he wanted to play the macho gun slinger but probably had no clue how to select a quality piece.
But it doesn't matter because its long been accepted that officers have a much wider latitude to use deadly force on you if you confront them with a weapon even if you aren't holding it in your hand at the moment. Since reasonable people from forever ago understood that 'unarmed' people with guns can become armed in a split second. Its very reasonable that an officer in the confused melee thought he was a potentially lethal danger even without the gun going off. Real life policing (which btw local law enforcement should have been doing instead of forcing ICE to defend themselves) is not Quick Draw McGee contest in a spaghetti western.
It was a $2100 Custom Sig P320. So not cheap...but can go off by itself. He was legally open carrying his pistol and did not draw it.
Yes, it might. But whether or not it did, you take a much enhanced risk going to ballbust and getting into a physical struggle with feds carrying a piece even if not in your hand or a 3 ton SUV.
You should know you popped a champagne cork for J6ers shot who clearly did not have a gun or a vehicle.
Molly, I don’t care how much it cost.
The question I have is how well it cared for? Was it routinely cleaned? Has it been stored in a dry place? Is it in good operating condition?
A top-of-the-line BMW is unsafe to drive if it’s got bent tie, rods, and bad ball joints.
Guns don't go off by themselves. Not even the shitty ones.
Actually, they do. It’s a slight vibration that does it.
In this case, the Sig P320 platform does have an issue with uncommanded discharges.
I have no idea if it had anything to do with Pretti being shot, though.
Of course you’re okay with murder.
That's why no one should take people like you seriously. You're just as much a lawless vigilante as the people you claim to criticize. To punish and crush those you deem subhuman, every bit as much as those you caricature. Because you are correct and noble.
It continues to confound me that many of the people who claim to celebrate pluralism do not actually believe in it. It requires tolerating deplorables. But of course the people who claim to be tolerant are not.
fascist are the types the invade Churches and disrupt services.
As for the laser bit, if Marine One can be compromised by a cat toy laser pointer, when both pilot glasses and cabin glass should have appropriate filters, then what of the rest of the military that would not have the top of the line protection that would be expected for the president.
You're right, but don't accept the framing that because the guy was accused of doing something, he actually did it.
So you're saying the Secret Service officer just made up the whole story out of thin cloth to bust a random man just standing around? Why would he do that?
"If someone is arrested he must be guilty because police always tell the truth, and always get their facts straight" is certainly a take.
Okay I guess you'd be all for people regularly aiming and plinking bb guns at the motorcade of a Democrat official or an FBI convey going to bust a J6er. And no punishment at all should come to them because shucks these professional military/law enforcement folks aren't seriously going to be threatened by these silly toy weapons.
Heck we should completely decriminalize people shining lasers at any plane. Lets just have laser command parties where we get the whole family together with 5000 other people and practice targeting the eyes of any pilot coming within range. 100 pts for each pilot you hit right in the pupil. its totally okay as long as they get the specialized equipment to protect themselves from this malicious and otherwise extremely dangerous stunt.
If anyone had pointed one at the Kenyan Muslim, they'd be calling for the death penalty.
Lasers come in different wavelengths and there is no universal laser filter that works on all wavelengths.
You don't just filter 'laser' light. Lasers aren't just one thing.
You need filters for the specific frequency (and they can't filter outside that frequency because 'filter' means 'opaque').
That's why it's time to stop the Mr. Nice Guy. I want Trump to order the military to start destroying these people.
I looked up the lawyers.
"Jill A. Brisbois, Esq., founder of The Jab Firm, has more than 15 years of experience handling high-profile criminal cases."
Jordan S. Kushner takes civil rights cases and ten years ago was banned from University of Minnesota for joining a disruptive anti-Israel protest.
People wonder why I quote Shakespeare’s famous line…..
Because you are not mentally all there? I am not sure that is the correct answer, but it is possible.
Nobody wonders; we know: because you're deeply stupid and — worse — incapable of learning.
Dr. Ed 2, do you know the context of "Shakespeare’s famous line"?
“The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers” was spoken by Dick the Butcher in Act 4, Scene 2 of Henry VI, Part 2. Cade, a pretender to the throne, hopes to destabilize the existing social order, and the line serves as a tongue-in-cheek recognition that lawyers, by upholding the law and administering justice, are impediments to anarchy.
https://nosweatshakespeare.com/quotes/famous/lets-kill-all-the-lawyers/
How long will it be before the public loses all faith in the judicial system? That’s pretty much what happened in 1775….
So, in your mind Trump is today's King George? Maybe you are on to something.
Someone observed about the American right and Star Wars, they think they're the rebels, when they're actually the Empire.
And my, how you love reposting that over and over.
MAGA wants to commemorate the 250th anniversary of the civil war and bloodshed around 1776 by starting another civil war.
I hope these defendants get a substantial punishment for what they did, but pretrial no-bond detention is simply outrageous. The Bail Reform Act was supposed to hold the truly dangerous, not people accused of disrupting a church service.
This.
"I hope these defendants get a substantial punishment for what they did, but pretrial no-bond detention is simply outrageous. The Bail Reform Act was supposed to hold the truly dangerous, not people accused of disrupting a church service."
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Wait until you find out what they did to January 6, 2021 Defendants!
I submit that storm in the capital was much more violent than what these people did in the church.
ssshhhhhh don't disrupt their right wing circle jerk. The church protestors were "dangerously rioting." They made a lil girl cry! A Little Girl! Can you believe it? In a house of worship an innocent lamb of god shed a tear because she was so scared of the people shouting i mean rioting. Dangerously rioting using their vocal chords as weapons of mass destruction.
Treating all J6 defendants the same, whether they pummeled police officers or wandered through open doors, is completely ignorant.
I didn't mention Jan 6 defendants. Not all of them were detained pre-trial. But a very large portion of them were in fact not from D.C. So the pre-trial calculation related to returning to the district for court is a different calculus for them than what is at play with the St Paul church defendants...isn't it?
Also, disrupting a church service is different in kind than assaulting capitol police? The Jan 6'ers charged with minor offenses were not detained. Those charged with more serious charges were. But regardless; the detention calculus is just that... a calculus involving various factors. One of which is the likelihood of the person voluntarily returning to court to have the case eventually get to final disposition. If the calculus says the person is a flight risk; the Court has tools to address it. If the calculus says the person is likely to commit further crimes, it gives the court tools to deal with it.
If you have a problem with the calculus itself vs how it is applies in the routine case then state it.
This strikes me as a very straightforward application of federal pretrial release law. I assume people taking issue with it are writing to their representatives in Congress, instead of grousing in the comments.
This is correct. They are not a flight risk nor are a danger to the community, thus low or no bail is appropriate.
22% of ICE detentions are in TX.
2.2% of ICE detentions are in MN.
90% of the violence against ICE is in MN.
This article is why all those foreign and domestic interests are plowing their dollars in MN to stir rebellion. The government in MN is compromised. All branches.
Are you saying MN is too violent or that the rest of the states need to up their game?
I'm saying the rebels are the causers of violence, not the parriots.
Oh man I do hope the rebels ratchet up their violence. So far in the Battle of MN the good guys are 2-0
Who are the "patriots"? The ICE thugs wiping their ass with the Constitution, murdering people, disappearing people, breaking into people's houses without a warrant, arresting citizens who have committed no crime? Or those standing against them? Who would the founder's call "patriots"?
That's because ICE seems to be focused on murdering citizens in Minnesota rather than finding immigrants to deport.
You think that because you're a malicious asshole who pays attention to yellow journalism rather than trying to find facts.
https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/ice-in-minnesota/border-patrol-ice-officials-press-conference-update-minneapolis-immigration-operation/89-41d6c505-10eb-4e84-85b2-095530cceeec
Okay, murdering innocent people and holding press conferences. I'll also concede that they spend a lot of time on social media.
The real problem MN has with ICE is that they seem to have deported enough illegal aliens to make them lose a House seat.
Why didn't they get the J6 treatment? Or the praying outside an abortion clinic treatment?
Who was praying outside an abortion clinic and then held without bail?
Mark Houck was subjected to a SWAT raid, despite offering to turn himself in, for defending his son outside an abortion clinic.
Fortunately, the SWAT team didn’t shoot anyone (or the family dog).
You really think the violent overthrow of the government resulting in several police officers being killed should be considered equivalent to nonviolently disrupting a private gathering that didn’t result in any injuries?
When did this happen?
In the imagination of every totalitarian leftist, each and every day Trump exists.
(I do wonder what the left will do at the end of Trump's term?)
Hopefully piss on his grave? While donating to whoever is not Vance I presume. Although the eye liner he wears is interesting; i think his intimate association with the current regime will prove fatal to any chances he may otherwise would have enjoyed as VP and presumptive 'next in line.' He is vulnerable on all sides. And really not all that likeable.
Like I know nobody who says, "I'd really like to have a beer with JD" and given the racialist path the GOP took to get to this point, his wife is a liability rather than asset in his own primary. She likely doesn't deserve it but as they say...lie down with fleas you going to get bit. Vance will find this out soon enough.
>And really not all that likeable.
Your idea of 'likeable' was Clinton and Harris.
Where was the violence by the protesters?
Sicknick died from *two* strokes. Maybe you could say the stress of the event triggered this but . . . he was a cop, stressful situations aren't exactly uncommon.
4 others committed suicide over the next few months.
The headline is misleading. The United States sought a detention hearing to revoke bail. The judge here held that the United States was not entitled to a detention hearing.
What makes the headline particularly misleading is that we do not normally refer to the government’s entitlements vis-a-vis individuals as rights. Rights are something individuals posess against government. The United States may have been entitled to subject the defendants to a detention hearing (the judge here said it wasn’t). But it had no “right” to a detention hearing as we ordinarily understand rights.
The word "right" does not appear in the headline. It seems accurate.
The impeachment of corrupt judges must begin as soon as possible to preserve democracy in the United States of America.
Starting with Justice Thomas?
The same judge that refused to charge Don Lemon.
Judges do not charge people.
the judge did not refuse to charge anyone. He refused to issue a warrant based upon the facts in the facts the government presented in the application for the warrant.
What was in the application? I don't know. If you do, present the facts and make a saliant argument that the judge erred.
How often does a judge refuse to issue a warrant? This is Trumplaw, and you know it.
If Biden's DOJ had tried to prosecute a white man for calling a black man a nigger, he'd be signing that warrant faster than your husband finishes after penetrating you.
Judges often deny applications for warrants. They are not rubber stamps.
I mean, it's a low standard, so it's not "often," but it regularly happens. You don't hear about it because warrant applications are ex parte, and legitimate, competent prosecutors (i.e., not those who work for Trump) treat them as actual legal documents rather than as press releases. They don't go around publicly trumpeting that they're going to arrest people to teach them a lesson. And so (as the district judge pointed out) the normal government response is to beef up the warrant application with more facts and resubmit it, or take it to a grand jury for an indictment.
"no-contact with any victims or witnesses of the charged offense" - I assume this would mean no contact with anyone else who was there or who assisted in planning the event. These are their friends, this is their cause etc - short of self isolation, I would think this would be very hard for them to comply with
I'm glad they got pretrial release, but why was locking up these people without bail prior to trial even an option?
I would have thought that the right to bail in non-capital cases was one of the rights retained by the people in the 9th Amendment, and one of the privileges or immunities of citizenship under the 14th amendment. Yet the Supreme Court has rejected the idea of such a right.
It's not as if the Court has a principled objection to unenumerated rights. They announced a right to same-sex marriage, which let's just say has less of an historical basis than the right to bail.
Even if it were a "crime of violence," if a crime is noncapital then historically it was regarded as bailable.
At least if they were locked up without bail they'd have the right to marry their cellmates.
It has indeed. United States v. Salerno, 481 US 739 (1987) held that there was no constitutional right to bail. It's theoretically a high statutory standard, though: the govt must show that there are no set of conditions that could be imposed that would ensure the defendant's appearance and the public safety.
From a 2013 law review article:
"'All persons shall be bailable by sufficient sureties, except for capital offenses when the proof is evident or the presumption great.' This is the 'consensus' text of one of the most fundamental rights in American history. Even before the Bill of Rights was proposed to the states, Congress ensured this right in the U.S. territories with the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 and in the federal courts with the Judiciary Act of 1789. The states protected the right even more strongly—48 states protected this right as recently as a generation ago, and 42 states protected the right in at least one of their state constitutions. When the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified in 1868, more than three-fourths of the states—29 out of the then 37—provided the Consensus Right to Bail in their state constitutions. In these states, persons accused of a crime (other than a capital offense) had the right to be released on bail if they could offer a sufficient surety."
https://arizonalawreview.org/pdf/55-4/55arizlrev909.pdf
*If* the Constitution protects unenumerated rights at all, one would think the right to bail would be considered a well-recognized traditional right.
Article: " . . . including young children, . . . "
Judge: "The charged conspiracy is not a crime of violence and does not involve a minor victim . . . "
Article: " . . . caused the service to be cut short and forced parishioners to flee the church out of a side door, which resulted in one female victim falling and suffering an injury."
Judge: "The charged conspiracy is not a crime of violence and does not involve a minor victim . . . "
Well, if a court can rule that a man is a woman, this makes sense.
"Children were present" != "children were victims."
"Someone fell down" != "crime of violence"
HTH.
"Crime of violence" is a term of art. Though different sections of the US Code provide varying definitions, the definition used here is §3156(a)(4). That section is more expansive than ACCA violent felony or §16 (both because the statute explicitly includes otherwise non-"crime of violence" offenses, like CSAM offenses, and because the residual clause has yet to be struck down) - but still operates under categorical approach.
We're not sure how CA8 will rule, as this seems to be an open question. However, in United States v. Watkins, 940 F.3d 152 (CA2 2019), one of the few modern cases that appear to discuss section 3156's crime of violence determination, the court held that then-recent SCOTUS decision in United States v. Davis compels the use of categorical approach in interpreting the identical language.
Under categorical approach, it doesn't matter what the particular conduct the suspect is alleged to have committed. "In determining whether this crime is a violent felony, we consider the offense generically, that is to say, we examine it in terms of how the law defines the offense and not in terms of how an individual offender might have committed it on a particular occasion." Begay v. United States, 553 U.S. 137 (2008) (superseded in part by Johnson v. United States, 576 U.S. 591 (2015)).
Because conspiracy to deprive someone of constitutional rights can be performed in myriad ways, violent or non-violent, it is not a crime of violence under the categorical approach.
I would have been willing to impose a moderate bail simply because I think bail the constitutionally normative method of assuring appearance absent special circumstances. I agree there is no need to impose a particularly large amount here. While I think judges should take means into account and not keep people in jail for minor offenses simply because they cannot afford the bail set, the defendants here are not rich but have some means.
For the reasons notguilty explained, I am skeptical these defendants committed all elements of the offenses they are charged with. Nonetheless, given that the judges here found probable cause, because I think bail should be the normal procedure in US courts, and there is no special reason not to follow normal procedure, bail should be set. I completely agree that the prosecution’s evidence of flight risk etc. was pretty bogus, as it’s pretty clear the defendants went to a hotel not to flee but to avoid angry counter-protesters.
The idea that the rolling stops and other minor traffic violations the defendants were observed doing constitutes a serious disregard for the law etc. etc. etc. is so frivolous as to be laughable. It evidences that only that the prosecutors here can’t be trusted to review evidence with any sort of objectivity or professionalism.
Another example of the INSANELY CORRUPT American judiciary. The proof, with a straight face claim that "a crowd wearing MAGA gear disrupts an AME church service in Los Angeles" and the same decision comes down.
As always, completely hypothetical hypocrisy is the worst kind.
True dat. If you get to completely make ip what you’re accusing people of, you can accuse them of anything you want.