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Gordon Wood on America as a "Creedal Nation" Open to all Races and Ethnicities
Wood is the leading living historian of the American Founding. He pushes back here against those who claim America should be an ethno-nationalist polity.

Gordon Wood is probably the leading living historian of the American Founding, author of such seminal works as The Creation of the American Republic and The Radicalism of the American Revolution. In a recent speech at the conservative American Enterprise Institute (reprinted in the Wall Street Journal), he pushes back against some on the right who argue that American should be an ethno-nationalist society favoring those with a particular ethnic and cultural background. This idea, he explains, goes against our Founding principles:
I want to say something about the Declaration of Independence and why it is so important to us Americans.
There has been some talk recently that we are not and should not be a credo nation, that beliefs in a creed are too permissive, too weak a basis for citizenship and that we need to realize that citizens who have ancestors that go back several generations have a stronger stake in the country than more recent immigrants.
This is a position that I reject as passionately as I can. We have had these blood-and soil-efforts before, in the 1890s when we also had a crisis over immigration. Some Americans tried to claim that because they had ancestors who fought in the Revolution or who came here on the Mayflower, they were more American than the recent immigrants….
The United States is not a nation like other nations, and it never has been. There is at present no American ethnicity to back up the state called the United States, and there was no such distinctive ethnicity even in 1776 when the United States was created….
Because of extensive immigration, America already had a diverse society. In addition to seven hundred thousand people of African descent and tens of thousands of native Indians, nearly all the peoples of Western Europe were present in the country. In the census of 1790 only sixty percent of the white population of well over three million remained English in ancestry…
When Lincoln declared in 1858 "all honor to Jefferson," he paid homage to the Founder who he knew could explain why the United States was one nation, and why it should remain so. Half the American people, said Lincoln, had no direct blood connection to the revolutionaries of 1776. These German, Irish, French, and Scandinavian citizens either had come from Europe themselves or their ancestors had, and they had settled in America, "finding themselves our equals in all things." Although these immigrants may have had no actual connection in blood with the revolutionary generation that could make them feel part of the rest of the nation, they had, said Lincoln, "that old Declaration of Independence" with its expression of the moral principle of equality to draw upon. This moral principle, which was "applicable to all men and all times," made all these different peoples one with the Founders, "as though they were blood of the blood and flesh of the flesh of the men who wrote that Declaration…." This emphasis on liberty and equality, Lincoln said, shifting images, was "the electric cord. . . that links the hearts of patriotic and liberty-loving men together, that will link those patriotic hearts as long as the love of freedom exists in the minds of men throughout the world."
In Jefferson's Declaration Lincoln found a solution to the great problem of American identity: how the great variety of individuals in America with all their diverse ethnicities, races, and religions could be brought together into a single nation. As Lincoln grasped better than anyone ever has, the Revolution and its Declaration of Independence offered us a set of beliefs that through the generations has supplied a bond that holds together the most diverse nation that history has ever known.
Since now the whole world is in the United States, nothing but the ideals coming out of the Revolution and their subsequent rich and contentious history can turn such an assortment of different individuals into the "one people" that the Declaration says we are. To be an American is not to be someone, but to believe in something. That is why we are at heart a [creedal] nation, and that is why the 250th anniversary of the Declaration next year is so important.
Wood's emphasis on America's role as a creedal nation bound by universal liberal principles is backed by the Declaration of Independence (with its condemnation of British immigration restrictions), and by many statements by leading Founders. In his famous General Orders to the Continental Army, issued at end of the Revolutionary War in 1783, George Washington emphasized that one of the reasons the United States was founded was to create "an Asylum for the poor and oppressed of all nations and religions." He expressed similar views on other occasions, including writing to a group of newly arrived Irish immigrants that "[t]he bosom of America is open to receive not only the opulent & respectable Stranger, but the oppressed & persecuted of all Nations & Religions."
These are the principles that made America great in the first place, and returning to them is the best way to make it greater still.
I don't agree with every point Wood makes in his speech. For example, he claims that "Because assimilation is not easy, no nation should allow the percentage of foreign born to exceed about 15 percent of its population." There is no basis for this arbitrary limitation. Nations such as Australia, Canada, and Switzerland, have done well with much higher percentages of foreign-born people. In Chapter 6 of my book Free to Move: Foot Voting, Migration, and Political Freedom, I describe how issues of assimilation and potential "swamping" of institutions are best addressed by "keyhole" solutions, rather than by excluding large numbers of people. Such exclusion based on morally arbitrary circumstances of ancestry and place of birth is at odds with the universalist principles of the American Founding that Gordon Wood has done so much to document and illuminate.
Wood is right to suggest that America's greater success in assimilating migrants compared to many European countries is in part due to our creedal identity and ideology. But, as noted in my book, an additional factor is open labor markets, which make it easier for immigrants to assimilate and learn the language by entering the workforce. Switzerland's relative success compared to most other European states is in part due to its similarly low level of labor restrictions.
Despite such quibbles, Wood's speech is a great summary of the principles of the Founding, and their continuing relevance today.
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What major faction is claiming America should be 'ethnonationslist'?
Assuming you mean ethno-nationalist and aren’t just poking fun at the typo, the one currently occupying the White House.
Did you notice among many other examles the change whereby the only people now admissable into the United States as refugees are conservative white Christians? Or have you been hiding under a rock?
You mean the people with an actual genocidal mob after them and the support of the government? As opposed to the people fleeing the consequences of their own votes or criminals looking for new markets?
"the one currently occupying the White House."
Sure. And he's also claiming the United States should be a Marxist paradise.
"Nations such as Australia, Canada, and Switzerland, have done well with much higher percentages of foreign-born people."
Canada's economy is doing quite poorly under the weight of recent mass immigration.
Trump's tariffs are a major factor also.
Funny, if you'd looked through the establishment social media postings, and think pieces, and prognostications you would have gotten the distinct impression that the us would find out how unneeded and helpless it was without Canada and be left in the dust as they laughed and rode off hand in hand with China and the eu into the sunset. What happened?!?!?
Oh well. Maybe the 'party of the poor' can euthanize sone more poor people to even things out.
Yes, mass immigration is destroying Canada.
""Nations such as Australia, Canada, and Switzerland, have done well with much higher percentages of foreign-born people.""
Switzerland? 85% of the resident foreigners there have European citizenship.
Either The Ethno Nationalist People's Front or The People's Front of Ethno Nationalists, can't remember.
... in either case, the Romans are the enemy ...
Your example of Washington's speech helpfully illuminates the degree to which the frame of reference has expanded, perhaps beyond anything Washington would recognize, given that he was speaking to European Catholics.
He also famously wrote:
And that was to Jews, not Catholics.
Ergo, Washington would want a hundred thousand Somalians in Minnesota, etc. Obviously.
I mean, like almost all of that era, he failed to reconcile his views on liberty and bigotry with his acceptance of black slavery, so maybe not. But that would just reflect hypocrisy on his part.
On the other hand, 100,000 in 2025 is about equivalent to just 1,000 in 1776 (as a share of the population), so not clear it would've bothered him either. After all, there were ~50,000 free blacks in the U.S. at the time.
Well, may be; he sure wasn't speaking to the Senecas!
Something that bugs me about your arguments is how ultimately provincial they are. Switzerland has a large number of foreign residents but 1) it is very difficult to become a citizen, 2) a significant number of them are Italian, German, or French, which are culturally very similar to the Swiss, and 3) race is currently a big issue because almost all immigrants were euros, until recently. They recently implemented an anti burqa law! It's frustrating because I agree in principle but you are ignorant on the object level.
I enjoyed skiing in Valais and have several wonderful Swiss friends, but Switzerland should not really be brought into any discussion on this topic.
They are just the ultimate outlier, their own 'special' case.
"I don't agree with every point Wood makes in his speech. For example, he claims that "Because assimilation is not easy, no nation should allow the percentage of foreign born to exceed about 15 percent of its population.""
Did even Trump go that far?
Which part goes Ilya disagree with? That assimilation isn't easy or the specific % cap? My observation is he doesn't care about assimilation, so essentially magic dirt creates freedom minded people, and there should be no cap. Listening to a fool like Ilya means the destruction of your country.
While the exact percentage is arguable, (Because you're treating a continuous process like a binary.) that there IS a point at which assimilation fails is logically indisputable.
Say you've countries A and B. Country A is a nice place to live, has a population of 1,000,000. Country B is decidedly less nice, has a population of 2,000,000.
Your argument is that country A can assimilate an arbitrary number of people from country B, without harmfully becoming more like country B.
At the point where 1,000,001 people from country B immigrate to country A, you have to explain why the magical assimilation powers of the majority don't instantly flip polarity, and everybody in country A assimilates to country B, instead of the other way around.
Logically, it makes no sense at all to claim that a country can assimilate unlimited numbers of foreigners!
More reasonably, one would expect that,
1. Assimilation works both ways; Immigrants assimilate to the destination country, but citizens of the destination country also assimilate to the immigrants.
2. The higher the level of immigration, the less assimilation takes place on the part of the immigrants, and the more of it takes place on the part of the natives.
The question when we're looking at potential immigrants has to be, I think: "Do we want America to become more like the country they came from?"
In some cases the answer might even be yes. In others, it will certainly be, "Hell, no!".
In the latter case, you really do want to severely limit numbers, and do much more extensive vetting.
Benjamin Franklin on the Pennsylvania Germans, 1753:
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Franklin/01-04-02-0173
(Scroll down to "I am perfectly of your mind, that measures" etc.")
TL;DR version:
-German immigrants are stupider than the Germans who stayed in Germany
-"Their own Clergy have very little influence over the people...they are under no restraint of Ecclesiastical Government" [which Franklin deems a bad thing, though he himself didn't subject himself to "Ecclesiastical government," apparently he's one of those who think organized religion can be good for the lower orders, not for smart guys like him]
-They don't learn English and "They begin of late to make all their Bonds and other legal Writings in their own Language, which (though I think it ought not to be) are allowed good in our Courts, where the German Business so encreases that there is continual need of Interpreters; and I suppose in a few years they will be also necessary in the Assembly"
-In the previous war with the French, the Germans weren't warlike enough. [Yes, you heard that right]
Franklin thought there shouldn't be so many German enclaves, but that the Germans should be more mixed among the English-speaking population.
"I say I am not against the Admission of Germans in general, for they have their Virtues, their industry and frugality is exemplary; They are excellent husbandmen and contribute greatly to the improvement of a Country."
America is a "credal" nation, says Wood. And what exactly is this "creed"? Wood is rather vague about that. He does invoke "equality" and "liberty". Just throw in "fraternity", and you're ready to storm the Bastille. It's a pretty speech, but ultimately, vacuous.
This is the old debate of Locke versus Burke. The radical Declaration versus the conservative Constitution. It's the Constitution AND the Declaration AND the Mayflower Compact AND hundreds of other documents going back to Magna Carta.
But it's not just documents, much less abstract ideas that make a nation. If that were so, the American experiment would have been replicated elsewhere, yet it hasn't. People matter. Tradition matters. Contra Wood, this nation wasn't created "from scratch" on a blank canvas, but on hundreds, if not thousands, of years of tradition by a specific people in a specific time and place.
Did you read Margrave's comment minutes before yours?
Ilya is just boring anymore. It is just impossible to take anything he says seriously unless it is a comment on a specific legal issue. He spends little time in this blog commenting on specific legal issues even though it's a legal blog. The law is always tangential to his articles ususally.
At least if I have trouble sleeping tonight I have something to cure insomnia thanks to Ilya.
It is always how Americans are stupid and need to be replaced by Russian Jews like himself, and Third World migrants. He wants to speak for America, and he is not even an American.
Our immigration policies have been a disaster. If you don't believe me, look no further than the fact that we allowed someone like Ilya Somin to come here.
What a terrible thing to say.
Yes, Somin is an America-hater who should be deported back to his native country.
Immigration is great as long as those that immigrate also assimilate to some degree. We seem to have large groups antithetical to our sense of ordered liberty coming in with the idea of supplanting our rule of law.
David Lawson — Take two aspirin, stop worrying, and wait two generations.
The immigrants who arrive in this nation are the people who most want to work and get ahead from their former nations. Or in some cases, those fleeing despotic rule, or social chaos. It has always been that way.
Are you even aware that this nation hosts a Czech diaspora? How much trouble do those former, "Bohunks," (see, "honky") create now? They work like anyone, speak unaccented English, and tend conservative politically. To the extent they persist in crimes, they mostly get charged as inveterate accordion players—heinous conduct indeed—it can lead to polka dancing, in some ways the antithesis of ordered liberty—but not as bad as bagpipe playing Celts, who are actually trying to be disruptive whenever they pick up the instrument. Don't fall for their lies; bagpipers know what they are doing.
Yes, White Europeans have been able to assimilate.
Uhm, we have waited two generations. Now look at Minneapolis and Dearborn. And it only works if there's and end of construction to new immigration otherwise these guys live in an eternally refreshing enclave and never assimilate. Indeed, once they gain enough power they start to change where they are into where they came from.
Really? Like who? And are Afrikaaners being invited in with a bow and a smile more likely to be all about ordered liberty?
And do you think the present administration is an adherent to the Rule of Law? Perhaps they should be escorted out of the country.
large groups antithetical to our sense of ordered liberty
Do we, though? I'm not saying there is no upper limit, but I've not seen much of an actual demonstrated issue.
People have been saying THIS time the immigrants are a problem since like 1840.
I'd say the frequency with which the first language I hear on a phone call is Spanish is such a sign. Spanish is now a common enough language in the US we need to accommodate it.
Didn't use to have to, and that IS a consequence of mass immigration of people who dob't speak English.
I will renew my challenge for someone to tell me what they mean, concretely, when they complain about lack of assimilation.
Large sections of Los Angeles where businesses’ signage, and the majority language spoken is Spanish. And I’m not talking just Alvarado Street. To be clear, that’s nothing that I would get worked up about, even if it bothered me that ship has sailed, but I would consider it a lack of assimilation.
I am puzzled about Mr. Wood’s premise - does anybody in this day and age consider having English, Germans and Italians to be ethnic diversity? Certainly that was the case that the founding, but I doubt anybody today wanting an ethno-state would be thinking anything other than white…
In the previous thread a month or so ago when I brought it up, I speculated that speaking English was just about the only specific attribute I could think of. The problem with that as an argument is that for every immigrant group throughout history who came here, English fluency was minimal in the first generation — there were always Little Italys and Chinatowns and such — and ubiquitous in subsequent generations, with the ancestral language ability essentially gone by the third generation.
Multiculturalism, the open borders, the Biden puppetmasters, is designed to destroy a country, destroy a culture, eliminate any common bond of 'we the people' to the extent chaos, anarchy, and collapse of rule of law ensues.....just what Ilya and his silly pals desire. Preaching from the bully pulpit of a fake law school, espousing Tel Aviv's parasitic agenda for the host society, spewing inane prose to mask a sinister ideology. Import the east African culture to Minnesota, the results are real, import the south American cartel culture, the results are deadly, import the Chinese hordes, the elimination of America is Ilya's objective. 'we the people' got the same way of the American Indian. Go home Ilya!!!
Yes, Somin advocates policies to destroy America, and install his creedal identity and ideology.
He says George Washington wanted the USA to be an asylum for people of all nations. As slaves maybe, as when he did he controlled 317 slaves.
Hmmm... needs more allcaps, but that's a pretty decent Trump impersonation! Good work! You really got the whole stream of consciousness rambling thing down pat.
The view Professor Somin expounds is a more expansive version of one that definitely had a following at the Founding. However, like it or not, it was not the only view. For example, the view of people of African descent as subhuman half-monkeys fit to be nothing but chattel was not as universal as the Dred Scott Court let on, but it was not merely present but widespread. So was a view that Catholics were not fit to be full citizens, as a number of states banned them from public office. For better or worse, the Framers vested in the federal government a power over foreign affairs, including immigration, that is essentially plenary. Congress has plenary power to decide for itself, or delegate to the President if it prefers, what kinds of people are suitable to allow into the United States and what kinds are suitable to make into citizens.
It can consider any reason, no reason, or a bad reason.
Professor Somin is fully entitled to try to persuade Congress to use good reasons, as Professor Somin sees them, in making its decisions.
But Congress doesn’t have to listen. And so long as Congress continues to delegate its power to the President, as it has, the President doesn’t have to either.
Anyone who think that race is completely irrelevant and that a black Muslim Ugandan or indigenous Brazilian is just as likely to assimilate as an expat from Paris is either stupid or dishonest. Those are the two options.
By "assimilate," Pox just means "be white," so his comment is tautological. Because I guarantee that if the hypothesized "expat from Paris" were black, he would be claiming that the person couldn't assimilate at all.
Thing is - they can absolutely assimilate. They used to.
But *assimilation* is not the goal of the Left any more. We used to have a melting pot, now we have multiculturalism, a bunch of isolated ghettos that can be played off each other with identity politics.
My god these comments are an absolute trash fire. I wonder whether some of the people here have even met a non-white immigrant in their entire lives.
There is no American ethnicity. Never has been one. For those who have a better understanding of what the country is trying to do and its purpose, there is a debate worth having.
The Americas are about a new start to a new land, from the beginning thousands of years ago. And, this new start is to distance itself from the Old World and its thinking. We may take some from the old and transform it into an enlightened common sense, not a wholesale importation of failed thinking. It's about new ways, not old ways in a new place, which is what goes with a massive ingress of Old World thinking peoples, such as in the last few years and since the mid-1800s.
The more free immigration is, the cheaper the result will be. Things gained without struggle fail to impress the necessary responsibility for those things or their worth.
Your "open labor markets, which make it easier for immigrants to assimilate and learn the language by entering the workforce, " might work, but it comes with a greater cost, considering the state of the World's other countries which do not understand the need to reciprocate, which is to insure our founding principles are held dear. People not conditioned properly has been evident for many decades. People not able to let go of their past ways contrary to these new principles need not come here.
An honest debate on what principles derive a society worth having is what honest people always desire. Serving a thesis founded in common sense is a good start.
Responsible maintenance desires principled caretakers ; an open society still needs guidelines ; a country must have borders.
With respect, you need to be clearer about what exactly you think "Old World thinking peoples" believe in, and how that differs from what Americans apparently believe. Because right now "Old World thinking peoples" reads like code for -- oh, I don't know -- "Muslims". See also: any other immigrant group that Americans have collectively wrung their hands about over the years -- Chinese, Irish Catholics, Jewish people, Japanese, Vietnamese, and so on -- that have largely integrated just fine.
Also, I don't know what exactly you think American values are. I'll hazard a guess and say stuff like liberty, free speech, freedom of religion, and just your general founding principles. Given the current state of your politics (and, say, the viewpoints on display in this comments section), I wouldn't be so quick to assume that Americans even share these values anymore. Perhaps they should be deported?
I'm not sure exactly why we're supposed to ignore, when considering whether to allow some group to immigrate, that they've made a horrific mess of things everywhere they're even a significant percentage of the population.
Seems suicidally foolish.
"Groups" do not immigrate. People do.
Yes, they do, and to the extent you can establish that this particular person is an exception, you should treat them as such.
But doing that requires admitting that there's a rule you need to look for exceptions to, doesn't it?
America was absolutely a white nation, and its founders and leaders believed that to be the case, until the mid 1960s or so.
Don't delude yourself into thinking otherwise.
Seems to me that wanting to have an ethno-nationalist state now a bit silly. The time for that was before we forcibly imported large numbers of Black Africans and stole half of Mexico, complete with Mexicans.
The US was founded on black slavery and the genocide of the native population. Just a bit of a rebuttal.
Hardly anyone is pushing for ethnonationalism and those that are - on the right side of the political aisle more than the left - are on the fringes.
But there is a strong agreement that multiculturalism does not work and we need to go back to 'the melting pot'.