The Volokh Conspiracy
Mostly law professors | Sometimes contrarian | Often libertarian | Always independent
"Gay Quotas"
A new article by Prof. Sheldon Bernard Lyke; the abstract:
In an era where diversity often takes center stage, the conversation
around true equality for vulnerable minorities remains pressing. This essay
explores the concept of implementing gay quotas as a pathway to not only
increasing representation but also redefining the legal framework for
equality. The implementation of quotas for lesbian, gay, and bisexual (LGB)
individuals presents an opportunity to address disparities within educational
institutions and workplaces directly. By setting a standard for inclusion,
these quotas could help ensure that sexual minorities have equitable access
to opportunities, ultimately fostering a more diverse and inclusive
environment. Moreover, the legal challenges arising from such policies
could prompt courts to establish more explicit standards for equal protection
related to sexual orientation, creating lasting change.This essay critiques the current political strategies and Supreme Court
decisions that have led to a muddled landscape for equality, particularly for
sexual orientation. It argues that the focus on diversity as a means of
inclusion has distracted from true equality, especially in the context of race
and sexual orientation. The Supreme Court's inconsistent application of
equal protection principles in cases involving sexual orientation has led to
unclear legal standards. This essay also discusses ongoing discrimination
and harassment faced by LGB individuals in the workplace. Implementing
LGB quotas could push courts to clarify their stance on equal protection for
sexual orientation, thereby setting important legal precedents.
I don't support such proposals, but I thought it was worth noting. For an example of an attempt to implement preferences for "LGBTQIA" in a guaranteed minimum income pilot project in West Hollywood, see this post.
I was also curious about a subject that the article doesn't seem to touch on, which is how the program administrators would determine who is gay, lesbian, or bisexual; I therefore e-mailed Prof. Lyke, asking,
If such a quota is instituted, how can an institution determine whether someone is indeed eligible? Say, for instance, that an applicant says that she is bisexual, because she has been attracted both to men and to women. To be sure, she may publicly appear to be heterosexual—she may be married to a man, for instance—but I take it that this is entirely consistent with bisexuality. Would she have to certify (perhaps under penalty of perjury?) that she is in fact in some measure attracted to women? Would she have to certify that she has in the past had some sort of sexual contact with women?
I appreciate that this problem has already arisen with regard to various race-based programs, where it has indeed led to high-profile controversies. But it just seems at first glance like it would be more serious with regard to sexual orientation, given that it's so hard for an outsider to know for certain what someone's sexual orientation is (especially whether that orientation is bisexuality).
He was kind enough to respond:
Thank you for reading Gay Quotas and for raising such a thought-provoking and reader-likely question—how, exactly, an institution could determine whether an individual is eligible for inclusion under a sexual-orientation-based quota. I appreciate your engagement because this question highlights the profound tension between identity, proof, and equality that my thought experiment aims to expose.
First, I am not persuaded that this is a serious administrative or conceptual problem. Concerns about "box checking"—that people will falsely claim a minority status to gain an advantage—are frequent but may be overstated. The empirical record in the racial context does not bear out the fear. Claims about people falsely identifying as Native American to obtain benefits, for example, have been both rare and methodologically contested. These worries often resemble the "voter fraud" narrative in elections: rhetorically powerful, but largely unsubstantiated. The anxiety itself often does more ideological work than the underlying conduct it purports to describe.
Second, if we take sexual orientation seriously as a protected identity, the most consistent approach is auto-identification, or self-identification. I draw here on comparative lessons from Brazil's Supreme Federal Court decision in ADPF 186, which upheld race-conscious quotas in higher education. The Brazilian court recognized two possible methods of classification: autoidentificação (self-identification) and heteroidentificação (identification by others). It held that either or both could be employed so long as the process respected personal dignity and avoided reinforcing stereotypes. (See Sheldon Bernard Lyke, Is Resistance to Foreign Law Rooted in Racism?, 109 Nw. U. L. Rev. Online 41, 52–53 (2014)).
This framework is practical precisely because it recognizes that identity has both an internal and external dimension. For sexual orientation, self-identification is even more essential than for race: it is not phenotypic, not reliably legible, and not necessarily expressed through behavior. Someone may experience same-sex attraction without ever acting upon it, and that desire alone may meaningfully situate them within a sexual minority. Hetero-identification might have limited use—for instance, in understanding how discrimination operates through perception—but as a criterion for quota eligibility, it would be intrusive and normatively suspect.
Third, I would not favor any system requiring individuals to certify their sexual orientation "under penalty of perjury." Law already recognizes and accommodates socially constructed identities that cannot be empirically verified—such as religion, gender, and even political beliefs. In our current understanding of gender, for example, we do not demand documentary proof to affirm someone's womanhood or manhood. As Catharine MacKinnon has argued, if a person seeks to inhabit a marginalized identity, the claim itself carries political meaning and should not be policed through external verification.
In short, a certain degree of indeterminacy is not a flaw but a reflection of social reality. The alternative—state-administered validation of intimate identity—would raise far greater concerns about privacy, equality, and dignity.
The project of Gay Quotas is not to design an apparatus to verify desire, but to test whether our constitutional and cultural commitments to equality can extend to sexual orientation in the same way they have—albeit imperfectly—to race and gender. The administrative discomfort you note is itself revealing: it shows how the law still struggles with identities that are socially constructed and internally known. The real question is not whether we can "prove" who is gay, but whether the state can recognize the structural inequality that sexual minorities face and act affirmatively to correct it.
I welcome any further exchange or questions, and sincerely appreciate you taking the time to read my work.
Editor's Note: We invite comments and request that they be civil and on-topic. We do not moderate or assume any responsibility for comments, which are owned by the readers who post them. Comments do not represent the views of Reason.com or Reason Foundation. We reserve the right to delete any comment for any reason at any time. Comments may only be edited within 5 minutes of posting. Report abuses.
Please to post comments
What is the purpose of giving special treatment to a woman who feels attracted to women but shows no sign of that attraction? People are going to treat her as straight. Unless she looks butch; presumably that is one of the stereotypes professor Lyke alludes to.
There are some relevant practical ramifications : I'm a bi guy, but even when in a het relationship, there's a whole lot of ways it can make a work environment or casual social environment a lot more awkward. I may well know I'm gonna keep it in my pants and absolutely not interested in /them specifically/, but that doesn't mean other male coworkers will be as comfortable sharing a hotel room.
A lot of people in this situation Get Known by their own completely voluntary intent -- splashing rainbow stickers or heavily promoting pride events at work, so on -- but it's also surprisingly easy to end up in situations where disclosure's not so voluntarily. In extreme cases, until recent, and I had to disclose because of a suitability interview (and while I might have conceal even then, it wouldn't take a hard look at credit card history to find some stuff). But I've separately gotten clocked due to internet meme references or not noticing 'obviously' hot women. I know more than one guy who's been outed because of Facebook crossing the streams from his personal weekend activities and coworkers who he hadn't friended or even realized were on Facebook, and one that did because of how WhatsApp handles profile icons.
I don't think the downstream issues justify affirmative action, here, let alone justify them in light of the statutory or constitutional issues raised with affirmative action, let alone those issues in state-controlled environments. But it's not a purely illusionary situation, either.
Sorry but I wouldn't feel comfortable sharing a hotel room with a female co-worker,your bi status, once known, just puts you on both sides of that equation as well as your own anti-hetero assumption.
Shouldn't matter at work but look at the activists purporting to represent you and ask if you want to be on the other side of that. Get the crazies under control and we can go back to the "love is love" bit and leave the pro-child mutilation and indoctrination era we live in behind.
Prof. Lyke wins the Broken Weathervane Award, because he is absolutely incapable of sensing which way the wind is blowing.
Not everyone's moral compass is so easily shifted by the trends.
Yes, by all means, lets keep adding protected classes. Pretty soon everyone except straight white males will be a protected class, and just as with the most uninteresting person in the world, that very lack of interest / protection will make that person / class interesting / protected.
You haven't been reading Prof. Bernstein, or you would emend that to "straight white Christian males."
I think the idea of protected classes doesn't really co-exist very well with the EPC, for which there's only one class: "People".
As a few people have already alluded to (plus, as well, EV in his OP), I'm concerned about the possibilities of people falsely claiming membership. The fact that data have not shows this to be a significant problem with race is not surprising. (Yeah, a tiny amount of outliers have a White person claiming to be Black, for example; but, by and large, we can tell what race(s) you are. If there are huge employment hiring benefits to being in this historically discriminated-against group (and it 100% absolutely has been discriminated against), then there will be huge benefits to falsely claiming membership in the group. Especially if being bisexual is given the same 'weight' as being gay, trans, etc. Especially-ESPECIALLY if there's no requirement that one has ever acted on the same-sex attraction component of your bisexuality. I mean, why NOT claim that I'm bisexual...and that I've just never acted on the same-sex part? How would that possibly be disproved?
(And I don't see how you could have a "you must have acted on your same-sex desires" requirement. After all, we don't tell the average religious Mormon or Catholic person, 'Well, you have never had sex, so you can't claim that you're straight yet.' Of course we take them at their word.)
I personally think that gay people (et al) have faced some of the worst discrimination in this country over the past 50+ years, so my social-liberal leanings tilt me towards trying to fix that problem. But this sort of thing seems like opening a can of worms. I'm glad Prof. Lyke wrote the thought-piece, and I'm glad he was willing to engage with Eugene on its merits. The VC at its finest.
I personally think that gay people (et al) have faced some of the worst discrimination in this country over the past 50+
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
There are countless countries and groups that have performed worse discrimination than the US. Resisting the break up of a pederast club...which the LGDKLFLDFJKLDJKLFFKLJXJFDKJKFJDSLK:IJEFIOEJIFKODJFNOIFJ:DLDOIJFKLKJFDSKLJFLKDSJFLDJFOPIDJFOIEJOIEFJLKDJFLJKOFLKJFLDJIOEJFDKFLJDLKFJOWFJOFOJOWJDFJOFDJOJFDOFJLJFOWJFOJWOFJOFOFJOWIOODIFF activist community regards as their Boston Tea Party really underscores this point.
There are plenty of groups that have been persecuted way worse than gay people have been. For example there has not been anywhere near the number if any of major targeted high intensity persecutions of gay people as there have been of Christians like the Roman, Japanese persecutions etc.
"I personally think that gay people (et al) have faced some of the worst discrimination in this country over the past 50+ years"
You should travel more.
I've been to about 108 countries. I think you're an idiot. (Note that I didn't compare anti-gay USA discrimination to various types of discrimination against groups around the world. Those are far, far, worse. But here, in the US, over the past 50 years or so? Yeah, I think that gay people, and trans people, have faced a lot of discrimination, a lot of hate crimes, and so on.
(I do agree with your advice to travel more though. Although 100+ countries is a nice goal to have reached; it is never a bad thing to get out of one's comfort zone and see new parts of the world.)
Why do you equate gays with trans?
I don't. I just have no idea what letters of the alphabet to type, to cover this set of protected classes. LGBT? Not broad enough. I figure that "gay + trans" is generally broad enough so that people will sort of understand whom I'm talking about.
You were confused, and thought I was equating them. So I obviously was not sufficiently clear.
You're not supposed to know which letters to type, it changes from week to week to catch out the people who aren't really devoted to the cause.
No, LGBTQ is not a secretly coordinated code phrase. Different groups announcing they should be in the mix is just how subgroups do; very few people are offended if you don't include asexuals or whatever.
Good lord, you're a sad sack of paranoia.
Your comment could be read as the worst discrimination ever happened in that timespan in the US so I don't understand why he's an idiot for your unclear statements.
Besides its very probably not even true the way you meant to say it. I know there has been this weird trend among libtoids of trying to reimagine the clinton/carter/obama years as a scene out of hellraiser when gays were crucified and burned en masse in the streets and bubba and carter and obama apparently just let this happen yet are still somehow storied figures in leftwing circles but it really wasn't that bad. Sure parents and playgrounds would be somewhat less approving of a gay lifestyle in the 70s and 90s than they are compelled to be today but other than that...At no point in this time period did slagging off gay people become as institutionalized among the government and corporations to the degree it is for groups like whites today.
The flip side of this is too MANY gays,
Let's keep the math simple and say the quota is 10% and you have 100 employees, 10 of who are LGBT. And then Nancy Normal gets beaten up by her husband one time too many and becomes a lesbian. (This is not uncommon.)
Are you going to fire her?!?
Seriously, are you going to go into the hospital where she's recovering from broken ribs and tell her that you are firing her because she is now with Linda instead of Larry? Nancy who has been a good & loyal employee for years?
A quota says you must...
Wait, what? Her husband beat the straight out of her??? Even for you, Dr. Ed, that's jaw-dropping.
Folks, you can't make this shit up.
This man is not well. (And I don't mean the hypothetical husband in this made up anecdote that has never happened in the history of homo sapiens.)
Quotas for any class of people is wrong. The correct approach is to remove barriers (such as discrimination) and make the school/workplace a welcoming environment for everyone.
Precisely. Talk about the easiest question in the world!
FYI: What I wrote summarizes what "DEI" is.
In theory, what you wrote is what what DEI was supposed to be.
In practice, what you wrote is not even slightly like what DEI actually turned out to be.
So you lot keep saying.
As though DEI is some kind of hive-mind where everyone implements it exactly as would be convenient to provide an nice white resentment-based enemy.
Then why is MAGA so hellbent on eliminating anything that even smells like DEI? Why not fix it into what DEI should be?
Because at this point it can't be fixed into what it should have been. Not under it's current name and branding. It's been entirely too corrupted into behaviors, practices and beliefs that directly contradict what you say it should be. It is a program and belief structure that has become divisive, exclusionary and intolerant.
Martin Luther King had it right when he talked about measuring people by the content of their character. DEI proponents lost their way when they abandoned that principle in favor of reverse discrimination. Which, by the way, is precisely what is being proposed in the article above - ignoring character and merit and measuring people based on skin color, sexual preferences and other irrelevancies.
Ipse dixit and an old misapplication of MLK.
The OP's no being implemented anywhere, so using it as evidence of how DEI is bad seems...about the usual reach the right needs to make when they seek to back their shit up with facts.
It's not a misapplication of MLK. He really did come out with a stirring call to just stop discriminating.
Admittedly, not long after, he realized that, like Moses, he would not live to see the promised land. And abandoned his principled stance to embrace "beneficial" racial discrimination.
But I think we do him a favor by remembering him as the younger, more principled man.
Admittedly, not long after, he realized that, like Moses, he would not live to see the promised land. And abandoned his principled stance to embrace "beneficial" racial discrimination.
Asshole telepathy. Turning whatever you disagree with into some bad faith.
You could read up on what MLK meant and the context. It's super easy to find sources.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mlks-content-of-character-quote-inspires-debate/ goes into what both sides say. Note only one of them has actually talked to MLK vs. hating him.
But no, you prefer making up reasons why people are lying rather than living in a world that includes people don't secretly affirm your thinking.
Is there structural inequality against men who have some slight attraction to other men but who instead get married to women? Are those even "minorities"? If nobody knows about a man's attraction to other men, how is there structural inequality against them that requires a remedy?
When I was coming out, it wasn't uncommon for gay men to think they were bisexual first. I don't believe that's common any more. It's more common for bisexuals to be out as such which could mean their wife is already aware that her husband is attracted to men and that other people could know as well depending on where they fit in their social circle. I wouldn't assume, these days, that bisexuals are closeted.
I blew a dude in college and I struggle to think of how that has affected my career, certainly not enough to warrant me getting some preference on hiring.
Anecdotal of course. Maybe some firms would ask about it.
Well, was that encounter something that you regularly bring up in job interviews? If it is something that you talk about in that final interview; then I can certainly see how it has impacted your career prospects.
Q: Is there any decision that you have regretted?
A: Well, there was that drunken night in college, when I gave a blow job to a guy at a frat party.
Q: Um . . . okay. We'll be sure to call you with our decision within the next few days, Mr. Job Applicant.
And how exactly will one verify that the person seeking a quota is gay?
A while ago, a certain well-known university required incoming freshmen to state that they were gay or lesbian as part of sensitivity training. One young man declared: I'm a male lesbian!
That may be a viable strategy. A lot of women very much enjoy cunnilingus. Self identifying as male lesbian may be seen by some women as advertising a willingness to engage in such.if I were in college, it might be something that I tried.
Rush Limbo did that "Lesbian in a Male Body" bit 30 years ago.
It was before his TV show started in 1992, and oh did it piss off the feminists.
On colleges today, it is very common for students to say that they are bisexual, just to show that they are liberal, open-minded, and non-discriminatory. They are not leading bisexual lifestyles. The guy downplays box checking, but it appears to me that they could honestly claim edibility for a gay quota. The criterion allows self-identification.
The quotas will surely expand to LGBTQ and maybe some more letters, where the identification problem becomes much worse.
Don't forget the LUGgies -- Lesbians Until Graduation.
They're actually celibate trophy wives in waiting.
Yes, I heard that misogynist canard when I was in grad school.
They're not LUGs, they're just not into *you*.
a certain well-known university required incoming freshmen to state that they were gay or lesbian as part of sensitivity training
Can't find any mention of this on the Internets.
"And how exactly will one verify that the person seeking a quota is gay?"
The burden of persuasion would rest upon an applicant seeking the benefit of a quota. In the case of a civil lawsuit brought by someone claiming to be a member of a protected class, membership in that class is a sine qua non of standing to bring the action at the outset. The burden of pleading and of persuasion as to every element of the cause of action rests on the plaintiff, and it is subject to testing through the full range of civil discovery, cross-examination of the applicant's witnesses at trial and receipt of countervailing evidence by the defendant(s).
I look forward to our new world order, where one's lot in life is firmly decided by their set characteristics.
A gay African American will be effectively discriminated against and told to "be straight" otherwise they are taking both a LGB slot AND and African American slot from a desired area.
College admissions will be firmly 50.9%-40.1% female - male, as opposed to the 60-40 split seen today in many college campuses. We cannot continue the discrimination against the male gender.
Theater troops will stop discriminating against straight individuals. Furthermore, we will stop discriminating against straight individuals at colleges. Many polls place the number of LGB individuals in the population at ~5-6%, while colleges often seen representation of these groups in excess of 20%. Clearly, the discrimination against hetereosexuals in the college environment cannot stand.
The other 9% will be nonbinary?
Well played.
(Yes, I made a typo)
Nonbinary people saved women’s sports…because the IOC already ruled that their sex at birth determines their eligibility for women’s sports. So believe it or not a trans individual (that was trans while playing and not like Catlyn Jenner) has already won a gold medal in a women’s sport.
I am curious how Brazil can identify racial categories without reinforcing stereotypes.
Whole thing is ridiculous. There appears very little actual discrimination for being homosexual in most industries, and there are industries where it is advantageous (e.g. fashion, design, etc for Gays, and softball for lesbians).
"There appears [to be] very little actual discrimination..."
This is absolute nonsense. Even a cursory review of Florida or other conservative state government news would pull up constant attempts to restrict LGBT freedoms, limit where the Pride Flag can be flown, restricting gender information on passports, and the whole pronoun freak-out by conservatives.
I'll leave your stereotyping B.S. uncommented as it should be easily seen for what it is by most readers.
"attempts to restrict LGBT freedom"
LQWERTY propagadizing during work hours...
", limit where the Pride Flag can be flown,"
To where the person flying it has discretion to fly flags of their choice.
"restricting gender information on passports, "
Passports don't have gender information on them to restrict.
What does gay propagandizing look like?
Public schools with pride flags in the classroom, as is not common in many parts of the USA.
Like everything you complain about states prohibiting with 'don't say gay' laws?
If those are your complaints, then there is no discrimination.
Some of my ancestors were pirates -- the pirate flag has meaning to me.
Can I fly it at work?
I'm not sure which is funnier here: the ridiculous claim that there's no anti-gay discrimination, the laughable stereotyping, or the notion that softball is an "industry."
Ok, you want examples of pro lesbian bias - try academia, including law schools. At my LS alma mater, one lesbian was hired, with few articles to her name, to tach lesbian law, which almost no one was interested in taking. Then, they hired her wife, with zero articles to her name. Both to tenure track positions. And then got bonuses despite still no published articles, and almost vacant classrooms. Bonuses instead of going to white male profs with standing room only classes.
My point is that there is both pro and anti gay and lesbian discrimination in the workplace. No one can really say which is worse, economy wide. It’s industry by industry, city by city, around the country.
"and there are industries where it is advantageous (e.g. fashion, design, etc for Gays."
I think you are getting it backwards. Gays are better at it.
Of course. But ability is irrelevant to claims of differential impact. The reality is that straight men are underrepresented in those fields.
Or--and stick with me here--we don't set sexual-orientation quotas and instead hire people based on their individual merit.
There's a long history of hiring by merit looking suspiciously like hiring people who look like the interviewer. I'd love to live in a society that didn't discriminate based on irrelevant things but that's not a society we live in today.
I agree there’s a history of discrimination. The solution to that isn’t “reverse” discrimination. It’s creating a culture of not taking irrelevant things—especially things like sexual orientation that can’t even be accurately verified—into consideration. It’s sad this still has to be said 160 years after the Civil War and 80 years after WWII, where the governments and societies that were defeated were based entirely upon discriminatory identity politics.
What if you're not Gay but you're willing to learn? Would they send you someplace Special???
And, what other traits are routinely discriminated against ? Should all traits be protected ?
The silent trait crossing all types of people is the left-handed one who faces discrimination many times a day, yet never gets a remedy. Pick up any object with your left hand and try reading any printing or other marks on it. The vast majority, over 99% will have those marks/printing upside down when in the left hand. The tape measure is my favorite. A hammer is simple enough one might say, but today's warning labels can't be read when it's in the left hand. Screws go in clockwise, yes, but the hand in action moves differently, the right hand rotates outward, while the left rotates inward. Pencils and pens likewise are labeled for the right hand, but writing goes only one way with various results. The can opener can only work one way ... I had to adapt at a young age for that. Toilets usually are flushed by the left hand, so watch out if the handle is wet. Occasionally something makes sense in the left hand, but I figure it was a design error or maybe a militant lefthander did it. The list goes on.
But some people are dyslexic and read upside down...
Comfort yourself with the knowledge that we're intellectually superior and overrepresented in leadership positions. Think of the hand tools like the disability fixtures in restrooms - a kindness to the less fortunate that we can easily work around.
I have it on good authority, from a good friend, that everyone is born right-handed, but people of exceptional intelligence grow out of it.
I have deeply mixed feelings here. I don't think there are barriers to LGBT persons gaining admissions to universities in general (and I'm mostly focusing on public institutions here). There are possible structural issues related to being disowned by their parents but still having their financial aid being determined by parent's wealth which could impact their ability to get aid and loans.
My opinion is based on the steady improvement in LGBT civil rights and overall integration into the culture of the past 50 years. Having said that, the recent attempts to roll back LGBT civil rights and the resumption of conservatives calling LGBT persons pedophiles/groomers--which has been used in the past to create other restrictions--could soften my opinion on quotas. Generally, though, I think it's a bad idea.
It's a flawed solution to a genuine problem. When minorities have had the scales tipped against them, there's an urge to "balance" it by overtipping the scales back in the other direction. And I understand why people think that is unfair, but I don't know what their proposed solution is.
Presumably there are those who don't see any problem at all with how things have gone in the past. But I think this idea of "only hiring the best person for the job, based purely on merit and nothing else" is mostly a fantasy that doesn't reflect how many hiring decisions actually get made.
(fwiw, my employers didn't have hiring quotas and I got hired just fine, but I think that this is far from always the case in other contexts)
My proposed solution is Roberts' "The way to end discrimination is to stop discriminating."
Advocacy by minorities of discriminatory solutions is incredibly short sighted and dangerous.
You can convince the majority that they should simply stop discriminating in their own favor, and just be non-discriminatory. It has an obvious moral appeal, it is a political winner in most places. It's a cause that has already largely won over the public, most places.
But once you start arguing that the majority should discriminate against themselves in favor of some minority group, you risk re-legitimizing discrimination, at which point the average person is quite naturally going to prefer that the discrimination be in their favor, not against them, "discrimination" per se having been put back on the table.
Non-discrimination, then, is the best minority groups can reasonably aspire to. Being discriminated in favor of is only stable for majority groups.
It's hard to take seriously a scholar who can't see it is much easier to fake a sexual attraction than to fake one's skin color.
To be fair to him; he does specifically address this. (Although I did not find his rebuttable particularly persuasive.)
My white, Jewish, high school girlfriend made sure to check the African American box on her college applications since her dad was born in South Africa. Seemed to work!
I wonder if they ever changed that, to "Black," to avoid that linguistic loophole.
My nephew was born in S. Africa, so I guess he could have used it, back when he was doing his college applications. Ah well, opportunity missed. 🙂
There should be a word for odious ideas presented as serious scholarship. Maybe "schlockership"? I dunno. Shoulda paid more attention in English Lit class I guess.
“Social science” is the word you are looking for. “Humanities” also works.
Spot the guy who failed all his English and humanities subjects at school.
OK, found you.
So the OP is about a legal hypothetical and people are posting they are so mad about how people are totally doing this.
This hypothetical is hypothetically outrageous!
I’m straight but into cuckolding (interracial only), which I’m fairly certain makes me a minority. And my last job said I couldn’t talk about it at work events , which I’m pretty sure qualifies as oppression. Can I haz my quota please?
So the determining factor when hiring an employee is where he likes to stick his dick. Quite the progressive utopia.
Nothing so ridiculous that some law professor somewhere won't advocate for it.
Any university that *wants* to implement a quota already isn't discriminating against that group, which means the quota isn't eliminating present-day discrimination by that university. There's no generational issue here either; there aren't a lot of people who come from a long line of gay ancestors who were discriminated against.
I remember way back in like 1998 I was in student government and went to one meeting of the state student union. They required that if a university sent a certain number of delegates, at least one had to be either gay/lesbian, nonwhite, or nontraditional. My university only had 2 people willing to go so we didn't have to comply with that (we just had to make sure the other delegate was a woman; you couldn't send just men even if you only sent 2 people) but it struck me at the time how absolutely stupid it was to have something like being gay in there that was totally unverifiable - *and* how intrusive it was to even ask about that.
Now they could probably send 2 men, if one said that he was trans.
Simpler: Send one man, and he claims to have multiple personalities. He can check every necessary box.
When did quotas become verboten?
From the appointment of Louis Brandeis in 1916 until the resignation of Abe Fortas in 1969, as well as from 1993 until the present, there has been at least one Jewish member of SCOTUS. Clarence Toady didn't get a second look when Justice Brennan retired -- his despicable nomination didn't come about until Thurgood Marshall retired. And nominating a man to succeed Ruth Bader Ginsburg would have been unthinkable, so Donald Trump turned to Amy Coney Bear It.
The solution you're all dancing around: casting couch.
Seriously? How does one prove membership in the LGB club. Is there a badge or ID card? What are the entrance requirements? Once a member, can you exit the group?
If sexual orientation is an immutable characteristic, how is it fair to base hiring decisions on it?
This is a ridiculously bad idea. The number of people who identify as LGBTIA has shifted over time. As some/many have noted, a lot of them are predominantly heterosexual, but "experimenting."
I consider "gays and lesbians" to be people who are either exclusively or the least predominantly attracted to the same sex. I think the numbers there are consistent, 3-4%. And they aren't underrepresented in well paying jobs. People have that misconception due to the work of folks like M Lee Badgett, who don't play "straight" with the data (as I see it) or understand how discrimination in markets affects outcomes. Gary Becker is much stronger here.
This doesn't mean that gays and lesbians haven't been subject to terrible persecution in this nation or others. To the contrary. Rather it means that gays and lesbians are more analogous to Jews in how they adapt to such persecution and thrive in relatively free nations with free markets that permit such adaptation strategies.
We don't know what causes people to be exclusively or predominantly homosexual. But it does appear that it's linked to having greater levels of "talent" in certain marketable areas life.
For instance, education is "associated with" greater incomes (not necessarily causal). Ask a social scientist who has no dog in the fight that social group X, is this better educated than the general population; what do you predict of the income/wealth of this social group? They'd say, significantly higher.
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2021/11/30/gay-men-earn-degrees-highest-rate-us