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What I Expect from the Court's Upcoming Term
Why I'm (mildly) optimistic about the Court's confrontation with presidential power
It has become commonplace to predict that the Supreme Court's current Term will be as consequential, for the Court and for the country, as any in living memory. Across the board, the Administration has implemented dozens of policies that have been deemed unlawful – unauthorized by statute and/or unconstitutional – by lower courts. Congress could do much to rein him in; as Madison[1] put it in Federalist 51, "the great security against a gradual concentration of the several powers in the same department, consists in giving to those who administer each department the necessary constitutional means and personal motives to resist encroachments of the others." But Congress has, for reasons and in ways we need not go into here, appears to have abandoned all of its encroachment-resisting powers to the Executive branch.
That leaves the Judiciary. The Supreme Court, having disposed of a number of procedural matters pertaining to the many legal challenges to Administration action currently flooding through the federal court system,[2] is soon to confront the merits of those challenges this Term, starting with the Tariff Cases (Trump v VOS Selections and Learning Resources v. Trump) on Nov. 5th and almost certain to include challenges to the birthright citizenship Executive Order, the Administration's federalization of the national guard to quell civil disturbances, the President's power to condition federal funding on various extra-statutory criteria of his own devising, the Administration's purported exercise of its powers under the Alien Enemies Act in its deportation program, and any number of other equally weighty matters.
Many friends, colleagues, and family members - not to mention commentators and pundits - who are both deeply worried about the direction in which the Trump Administration is taking the country (as am I) and, more to the point for this blog post, deeply pessimistic about the Court's willingness to stand up to the President's authoritarian tendencies and to rein him in.
"The Court," they say, "has been giving the Administration one victory after another. It is clearly in Trump's pocket, willing to rubber-stamp whatever outrageous moves he makes."
I don't agree. I'm not among those who think the Court is in Trump's pocket, and I'm not merely hopeful but actually rather optimistic that, when confronted with the merits of the specific cases involving this Administration's penchant for lawlessness, the Court will push back against Presidential overreach.
To begin with, while I'm certainly not a big fan of many of the Court's rulings in the Administration's favor – Dobbs, the immunity decision, the non-party injunction decision, the Court's penchant for granting "emergency stays" when Administration lawlessness has been enjoined by the lower courts - I do not think they represent any kind of special fealty that the Court is paying to this particular President. These cases involved issues that had been "in play" for years, at least in conservative legal circles, and in which both sides had strong arguments in their favor. The fact that a conservative Court chose paths that neither I nor my friends agree with is perhaps unfortunate and unwise, but hardly a sign that it has abandoned its role of providing reasoned judgments. Not exactly "man bites dog" stuff.
As such, I don't think that the Court's decision-making record thus far presages decisions that are particularly Administration-favorable on the merits questions coming up this Term.[3]
In a revealing interview last week with Ross Douthat in the New York Times, Justice Barrett put her finger on what I believe is the crux of the matter.
Douthat: We're living through an era where it seems to a lot of observers that Congress is increasingly unwilling to or is at least unexcited by the exercise of its own powers and that this is especially true when it's under the control of the same party as the White House. There's a broad sense that Congress is doing less and, in a dynamic relationship to that, the presidency is doing more.
As a member of the third branch, the other branch, do you think that considerations like that have any role to play in the court's obligation? In the sense that something like the unitary executive theory might have a similar theoretical basis in 1975 as it does in 2025, but in 1975, the executive is relatively weak, hemmed in by the post-Watergate Congress and more limited. Today, I think it's fair to say, the executive is much more powerful than it was at that period.
Is that something that enters into judicial considerations when you're thinking about the cases that you take, the scope of the rulings that you decide to make? Does the existing balance of power between the branches matter at all to jurisprudence?
Barrett: I think at a broad level, it's important to say — and I think this is actually a disconnect between what observers of the court expect to see and what the court can actually do — the press and the public live in a particular moment. You're either living in the Watergate years, or you're living right now, and you're seeing everything through that lens. The court has to take a longer view, and so the content of doctrine cannot turn on just the precise political moment.
Because the doctrine — we are drawing on cases that have come before. And this isn't anything to do with just being an originalist; the court decides cases not just in a "one ticket, this train only." What we decide today is going to apply tomorrow. . . . So what we decide now [might] be cited seven, eight or nine presidents from now.
We have to be very careful that the content of the doctrine isn't fashioned just for the moment, because one reason that the Constitution has been able to survive is that it isn't contingent only on a particular period.
So, according to Justice Barrett, in all of those cases, including the big victories, the Court is treating this President as it would treat any President, applying the same – very conservative, to be sure, but principled – standards to the questions presented as they would for any other President. To put it more bluntly, Justice Barrett did not vote to overturn Roe v. Wade because she owed Trump a favor for having nominated her, or to mollify those in the anti-abortion movement; she voted to overturn Roe because she thought it was wrongly decided. Nor did she vote to prohibit "universal" injunctions because she thought Trump should be allowed to round up Venezuelans and deport them without a hearing or revoke the security clearances and bar from federal contracts any lawyer working at a firm which hired someone he doesn't like, but because she thought those injunctions violate the principle that courts cannot bind non-parties.
This may all be baloney, of course – soothing words for public consumption while concealing more sinister motives. But I prefer to take Justice Barrett at her word, and I think most of the Court's Administration-related decisions up to now can be defended on these grounds – wrong-headed and ill-advised, perhaps, but principled, with ample support in the law. They have benefitted Trump immensely, but that is an incidental effect of the doctrines the Court has, for other reasons, adopted.
I think that much of the frustration that friends, colleagues, and commentators express about the Court's behavior arises from a feeling that while even-handed application of neutral General Principles is all well and good for ordinary times, these are not ordinary times. The Court, in this view, should fashion its decisions "just for the moment" because we are in a moment unlike any before in the nation's history, and General Principles may well be inadequate when confronted with a reality that nobody saw coming when they were first crafted and for which they were not intended. .
Take, for instance, Trump v. Casa, which ended the practice of issuing "universal" or "non-party" injunctions by district courts. The General Principle – that courts cannot bind non-parties – is surely one worth respecting. But where application of that principle grants a free hand to a President who is intent on a vast range of law-breaking . . . well, no President would ever do such a thing, right?
Trump has broken through the "No President would ever do such a thing" barrier many times, and it is not irrational to suggest that the Court's decisions should reflect that reality. A President's overreach looks very different depending upon whether it is an isolated instance or the centerpiece of his governing strategy.
But putting all that aside, the good news is that, if indeed the Court is applying neutral, Trump-independent principles to the merits cases that they will soon confront, he's going to lose – not always, of course, but often. It is difficult – almost impossible – for me to believe, for instance, that the Court is going to endorse a president's unilateral and essentially unreviewable authority to take whatever steps he deems necessary to ward off an "international economic emergency,"[4] or an "invasion or predatory incursion,"[5] or a "domestic insurrection" or "rebellion."[6]
If nothing else, I hope Publius was correct in Federalist 51: in order to provide "security against a gradual concentration of the several powers in the same department . . . ambition must be made to counteract ambition. The interest of the man must be connected with the constitutional rights of the place." Where's the fun of being a Supreme Court Justice if a President can do whatever he wants to do?
And I'm especially interested to see how the "originalists" on the Court respond in these cases. Can there be anything more in tune with the "original public understanding" of the Constitution than the idea that unreviewable Executive authority is tyranny, and is in the bulls-eye of the entire Constitutional scheme?
[1] Or it may have been Hamilton; scholars are, I'm told, of two minds about the authorship of Federalist 51.
[2] E.g., most notably, Trump v. United States (granting the President immunity from criminal prosecution for his "official acts," Trump v. Casa (ending the practice of issuing "non-party injunctions" by district courts, and, as I discussed here ("The Lowly Stay"), the practice of granting stays of the injunctions that have been entered by the lower courts.
[3][3] In particular, the Court's penchant for granting stays in cases where Administration officials have been enjoined by the lower courts does not tell us which way the Court is leaning on the merits of those cases. As I discussed elsewhere (see "The Lowly Stay"), the Court's stay decisions involve a finding only that the Administration has made a "strong showing," or has a "fair prospect," that it will prevail when the Court eventually reaches the merits of the cases, not that a majority of the Justices think the Administration is going to prevail.
[4][4] There's a strange feature to the debate over Trump's tariffs that hasn't received as much attention as it deserves. The challengers (including, of course, our own Ilya Somin) are asserting that Trump has exceeded his statutory authority under the International Economic Emergency Act: (a) His declaration that we are in an "economic emergency" is unsupported by any factual basis, and (b) even assuming that the declaration is valid, the "emergency" powers granted under the statute do not include the power to impose tariffs.
On 60 Minutes the other night, Trump again asserted that it will be the "ruination of this nation" if the Court voids his tariffs. One would think, with so much at stake, that a Republican president would have simply asked the Republican-controlled House and the Republican-controlled Senate to give him the power that he deems so central to the survival of the Nation. No?
[5] See, e.g., W.M.M. v. Trump and J.G.G. v. Trump (rejecting the Administration's claim that its deportation (with no opportunity for judicial review) of Venezuelan nationals deemed to be members of Tren de Agua was not authorized under the Alien Enemies Act of 1798).
[6] See, e.g., Newsom v. Trump (Posse Comitatus Act and the deployment of federal troops to quell civic disturbances).
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It will be amusing to see how Thomas and Alito decide to justify the legality of the tariffs.
The question is whether they can find three other GOP Justices to stand on the wrong side of a slam dunk case.
It will be amusing to see how Kagan, Soto and Jackson decide to justify the legality of the tariffs based on the Major Question Doctrine.
K, S, and J can rule against the tariffs by saying the plain text of the statute does not authorize any president ever to impose tariffs They don't need to endorse or apply the MQD in this case. The interesting question is whether those justices who repeatedly invoked the MQD against Biden's executive actions will also apply it against Trump's efforts unilaterally to set tarriffs.
I don't know what they'll do, but I'd cite it.
It's the legal lay of the land. What's funny about hewing to it even if you disagree with it? Or pointing out the Court's hypocricy?
We could talk about the jurisprudence of adhering to a precedent you don't like, but I don't think you're up for that kind of subtlty.
I mean ... we will see. I am hopeful, but this has not been a great 10+ months.
I will be listening to the oral arguments in the tariffs case with great interest tomorrow. In my opinion, on the legal merits this case should result in a resounding defeat for the Trump Administration across the ideological spectrum on the Court, and it will be interesting to see what direction the questions are focused on.
(If I was a betting man, I still think I would bet on the side of a ruling that the tariffs are unlawful, and remand for the issue of repayment to kick that can down the road. But I wouldn't bet very much at all given the ... unpredictability of this Court when it comes to Trump-adjacent matters.)
...or find the tariffs unlawful prospectively and avoid the turmoil of having to calculate repayment.
Lots of possible compromise positions and punts, and this court seems to like finding compromise positions and punting.
They could say IEEPA allows tariffs, but the tariffs have to be rationally related to addressing the formal emergency that has been declared, and send it back to lower courts to determine on a case by case basis whether that is true, with instructions to be deferential but not utterly oblivious to facts.
They could say Congress can't do an open-ended, unlimited delegation of taxing authority, and the IEEPA can't be interpreted in a way that allows that in practice. There has to be a limiting principle....and the lower courts can go take a few years to figure out what that limiting principle is.
Should be a slam dunk for the MQD.
It's pretty obvious that if Congress intended to grant the President the power to unilaterally declare tariffs on the rest of the world then they would have clearly said so.
"Should be" are the key words here.
I think Roberts, at least, doesn't want any slam dunks, because he thinks the President is temperamentally unable to handle an unambiguous un-spinnable loss on his signature policy. He fears such a loss would cause the President to kick over the constitutional chess table.
Robert's goal will be to salvage as much constitution as possible, consistent with not puncturing the President's ego. It's a delicate surgical job because that ego is dangerously inflated.
...like Obama Care?
Actually yes that is exactly the case that makes me think Roberts is overly concerned with displays of respect to the other branches on major issues, and trying to "save" stuff that is straightforwardly illegal.
I am betting he will pull another one here.
BTW, people forget that Robert's desire to give both sides something did have some good stuff for libertarians in that case. There was a clear statement that the federal government could not flat order people to buy insurance, as in make it a criminal law enforced by the police. (That's why it had to be a tax rather than a fine, and not a tax so huge that no one could reasonably pay it.) That ruling could come in very handy in the case of an AOC/Sanders administration. More generally there was a reaffirmation that interstate commerce isn't an "everything clause".
In this case, while I'd like a slam dunk shutdown of the tariffs, if that doesn't happen we could still get a statement that effectively says Canadians showing a video of Ronald Reagan is not an adequate justification for a tariff under the IEEPA.
Honestly, that case was kinda obvious in retrospect.
Congress had the power to enact a tax with the exact parameters of the fine. They couldn't anticipate that the courts would decide a "fine" was illegal, but it would be fine if they called it a tax.
To me, and I think many others, it's not a minor technical difference at all.
I feel morally obligated to obey the law and to pay my taxes. A criminal fine and a tax fall on opposite sides of that.
They're no more the same than paying taxes on my legitimate income is the same as paying a huge fine for running a criminal enterprise.
But it wasn't a "fine" either. It was a "penalty," and penalties are very common in the tax context.
Loki13 — Yeah . . . For values of, "unpredictability," ranging all the way to, "relentlessly lawless."
My guess favors a sop or two to the law, on issues unconnected to the extent of presidential power, plus novel procedural innovations to deliver endless delays for any day of reckoning on extent-of-power issues.
The one crisis the Court cannot dodge by delay will arrive presently, when mid-term election day is close at hand. Trump will probably do a better job with initiative on that one than the Court will do.
If, for instance, Trump wants to seize ballot boxes, or control the vote counting process, I expect martial law, or at least heavy militarized presence in Trump-targeted locations, prior to any other action that might create a related case for the Court.
That way, no need to confront merits questions over a coup. Just more vague stuff about whether the Court can figure out how to draw lines around alleged overreach. Should take quite a while. Maybe the Court will get a repeat chance to demand vote counting be suspended, because of an impending election certification deadline.
Eh, I am more hopeful. Gotta have hope. Like I said, I will be listening tomorrow with great interest.
This should be a slamdunk. Not as much as, say, birthright citizenship. But if SCOTUS is wobbly on an issue like this, I don't see any issue on which they won't load the dice in Trump's favor.
Suppose the result is an extreme posterizing slam dunk with celebratory dancing and strutting. A ruling that the IEEPA does not authorize any tariffs at all, and furthermore, no need to bring us any other statutes to consider unless they have explicit words like "the President may set tariff rates and apply them", and even then we'd need to consider whether Congress has the power to delegate that much. Throw in some verbiage that it isn't a close call and it was astonishing to suggest otherwise.
How do you think Trump would react? I think not well. He might call for impeachment and/or packing. He could find people to sponsor both, too. Neither likely to pass the House....unless he can increase his majority by a dozen seats or so, which brings us back to the Lathrop scenario.
I understand the concern that Roberts will be worrying about Trump's reaction to a loss in the tariffs case. But if the Court believes that Trump's tariffs were not authorized by law, I doubt the Court will bless the tariffs just to avoid a backlash from Trump. It has other options.
First, the Court could rule for the parties challenging the tariffs in a bland, lawyerly opinion. There is no need to antagonize Trump by writing an "extreme posterizing slam dunk" of an opinion "with celebratory dancing and strutting." Such opinions are an Alito specialty anyway and the chances of him ruling against Trump on anything are vanishingly small.
Second, and more importantly, the Court controls when its opinions are released. If the Court is going to declare the tariffs to be illegal, it easilly can release that opinion on the same day that it rules for Trump in another case. It gets much harder for Trump to attack the Court as biased, or stupid, or "fake" if it gives him a win on the same day that it deals him a loss in the tariffs case.
Good point in that last paragraph. I agree that will very likely be one of Court's strategies.
"Seize ballot boxes, or control the vote counting process"! The TDS is deep with this one!
Mark in Florida — In this case, not TDS, but TOS, Trump Observation Syndrome. He already tried to get that stuff going previously, but got stopped by aides sane enough not to want to risk prison themselves.
Since you bring up the tariff case — which I also intend to listen to live — Trump's SCOTUS brief in the tariffs case is as bad as you'd expect. Sauer skirts his ethical obligation to tell the truth to SCOTUS by laundering the lunatic views being expressed through Trump's mouth rather than asserting those positions himself.
This is just batshit crazy, and any lawyer who actually made those assertions — such as talking about an utterly nonexistent $15 trillion which no countries have committed to pay — would be sanctioned. Sauer tries to thread that needle by framing it as things Trump has said rather than things that are actually true.
The batshit crazy stuff is intended for Court consumption. It's a preview of the stuff they can expect Trump/MAGA to direct their way using their, GUMT (Grand Unified Media Theory).
Nieporent, you tell me, should an attorney be sanctioned for enabling that?
But doesn't attributing all that to Trump, or anyone else, imply that Trump's opinions should automatically be considered hard facts?
It's sort of like saying, "My client thought taking money out of the cash register would help his employer's business."
Oh, my! This is the first post of yours that I have seen.
What caused you to be such an angry, hateful person?
He doesn't post much. Thankfully.
But he's been angry hateful going back to 2008 and Sarah Palin at least.
To give you a better sense of who he is, David has five "No Kings" signs in his yard, a paper subscription to the Times so he can enjoy David French and Maureen Dowd, decries the end of the Rockefeller Republicans, and vehemently argues with others on Facebook about how his generation was the last one with "common sense." He's the living embodiment of Howard Beale, only with more spittle.
SCOTUS is not in Trump's pocket. They are ruling for him because they already support authoritarianism and white christian nationalism. Why Thomas supports white christian nationalism will be a topic of many history books in the future.
You're deranged.
A deranged parrot repeating terms he doesn't understand.
The dispositive question for Clarence Thomas is "Will this benefit someone whose first name is Clarence and whose last name is Thomas?"
He is Stephen on the GOP's Candyland plantation.
More racism from ng.
How is what I said, racist, Bob?
Racism is a more generalized trait. Antipathy toward one black man does not evince a generally racist mindset.
And Clarence "This is a high-tech lynching" Thomas deserves the benefit of no doubt. He cynically manipulated right wing Republicans for years by toadying up to them -- including being a harsh critic of the affirmative action programs from which he had benefited. That got him some cush sinecures in the Reagan administration and a lifetime Court of Appeals appointment from Bush I. Then, when it looked like his confirmation to SCOTUS was in peril, he suddenly played the race card with self-righteous fury.
Thomas's acolytes and worshippers don't want to acknowledge that their hero is a shamelessly opportunist and a self-hating, race baiting toady, so they ignominiously bleat that anyone who does not genuflect to him is "racist."
So you got sick of being called out for calling him an Uncle Tom, so you decided to call him a house nigger as a workaround?
Has it even occurred to you to criticism him in ways not related to his race?
I'm sure it has, but somehow non-racial invective just doesn't adequately express your hatred for the man.
I don't use that word, except in discussing its status as an epithet. But Clarence Thomas was definitely a (White) House Negro at the time of his nomination.
I have indeed called out Justice Thomas on numerous occasions for his antipathy to the doctrine of substantive due process. Even there, though, he is a rank hypocrite. The man loves him some Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1 (1967), but for which he might have experienced an actual, low tech lynching.
He's a hypocrite because he's a black man married to a white woman? God what a bigot you are.
No, he is a hypocrite because he approves of the Court striking down anti-miscegenation laws (from which he came to personally benefit), but still has the temerity to claim that Bolling v. Sharpe, 347 U.S. 497 (1954), which abolished segregation in the public schools of the District of Columbia, was wrongly decided.
Perhaps Thomas should encourage Chief Justice Roberts to order that the Supreme Court building install "white" and "colored" water fountains.
If Clarence Thomas is ever given an enema, his remains will fit comfortably into a cigar box.
And if he weren't a black man married to a white woman, he wouldn't be a hypocrite, he'd just be another guy who thinks that the EPC, which says, "No State shall ... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws" doesn't apply to DC because it's not a state.
Keeping in mind, of course, that just because a law is bad doesn't mean that it's unconstitutional.
Got it, you bigot.
No, TwelveInchPinhead, Loving v. Virginia was decided both on equal protection grounds (overruling Pace v. Alabama, 106 U.S. 583 (1883)) and on substantive due process grounds. As Chief Justice Warren wrote for a unanimous Court:
Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1. 12 (1967).
Your casual flinging of the "racist" epithet cannot substitute for reasoned analysis. But as Jonathan Swift said, “It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.”
Sigh. You said, "he is a hypocrite because he approves of the Court striking down anti-miscegenation laws (from which he came to personally benefit), but still has the temerity to claim that Bolling v. Sharpe, 347 U.S. 497 (1954), which abolished segregation in the public schools of the District of Columbia, was wrongly decided."
No matter how hard you try to backpedal, you're calling him a hypocrite because he's a black man who married a white woman.
A little late to the party, aren't you? How come you haven't called out the racist commenters -- we all know who they are -- who seem intent on ruining nearly every VC discussion? Here's a hint: ng is not one of them.
"Here's a hint: ng is not one of them."
Lol yes he is. Sexist comments, too.
I am likely one of the few commenters here who has actually seen a "Whites Only" sign. The struggle for racial equality is the defining (domestic) political issue of my lifetime.
Clarence Thomas is a quisling in that struggle.
Not much of a distinction to claim, but as a little kid I saw a sign directing "Coloreds" to the balcony of a movie house in a small southern town.
Sad, but not surprising, that you'd come out of that environment as a racist. As you point out, as your generation passes, your racism will go with you.
MAGA trying to stand on racism ain't gonna fly.
Even if you are so obviously thirsty to be on the other side of accusations of racism than the usual.
"MAGA trying to stand on racism ain't gonna fly."
If a Trump supporter calls a racist a racist, that means the guy isn't a racist! Great thinking as usual, Sarcastro!
If a Trump supporter calls a racist a racist, that means the guy isn't a racist!
Yeah, that's pretty much right. I've certainly never seen a Trump supporter accurately identify a racist.
Calling me a racist for my criticism of Clarence Thomas is the favorite tactic of those who cannot defend Thomas on his merits. It is one Volokh Conspiracy variant of the Big Lie.
Just recall who it was that said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_in_Nazi_Germany [Footnote omitted.]
"Calling me a racist for my criticism of Clarence Thomas is the favorite tactic of those who cannot defend Thomas on his merits."
Lol. As you've pointed out in this thread and elsewhere, your criticism of Clarence Thomas boils down to the fact that he's a black man married to a white woman. I'll happily defend that any time.
TwelveInchPinhead, you do a piss poor job of reading my mind. Clarence Toady's being married to a white woman is incidental here (even if it is quite illustrative of his self-hating loathing of his own kind).
I first formed a negative impression of Clarence Thomas in 1980 -- seven years before he married Virginia Lamp -- when he trashed his sister for receiving welfare benefits, in order to pander to right wing Republicans. I didn't learn of his marital status until long after his service in sinecures in the Reagan administration and his disgusting performance during his 1991 SCOTUS confirmation hearings.
Clarence Toady made his bones in the Republican Party as a harsh critic of the very affirmative action programs that got him into Holy Cross and Yale Law School. That bespeaks a mentality of "I've got mine -- the hell with the rest of my people."
When his Supreme Court nomination was in peril, however, he played hell out of the race card:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpAvsPZbzAs
Clarence Thomas beclowned himself in this manner long before I had heard about his marriage to a white woman. I have since despised him with a fury -- not because of whom he married, but because he trivialized the horror of lynching in a self-serving diatribe.
If then-Judge Thomas's nomination had been rejected by the Senate, he would still have enjoyed life tenure on the Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, just as did his colleague Judge Robert Bork. Clement Haynesworth served another twenty years on the Fourth Circuit after the Senate rejected his SCOTUS nomination. Nice work if you can get it -- in no way comparable to being strung up with a rope.
Some comparisons are beyond the pale, such as for example the Holocaust. Lynching in America is one such thing. I believe it is unlikely that in the next life Clarence Thomas will encounter Leo Frank, Emmitt Till, James Cheney, Andrew Goodman or Michael Schwerner. If that happens I hope that they beat the stuffing out of him once a day and twice on Sundays for trivializing the horror of lynching.
Excuse me. That should be James Chaney.
" I have since despised him with a fury -- not because of whom he married, but because he trivialized the horror of lynching in a self-serving diatribe."
Do you despise Biden for using the same metaphor?
No one calls you racist for your criticism. You get called a racist for your apparently irresistible compulsion to use racial slurs.
What racial slurs? "Quisling?"
The usual one is "Uncle Tom".
You said that (and worse), not ng.
I don't recall using the phrase "Uncle Tom." Sometime back I have referred to "Justice Uncle Thomas."
What a motherfucking racist. He tried to cover it up for a while, but it comes oozing back out.
Once again proving that partisan Dems (as NG describes himself) are the real racists.
I don't think you understand what "racist" means. Criticizing Black guys isn't racist, even if you're criticizing them for hypocrisy on matters of race.
The next time you want to criticize a black guy, I invite you to do so by equating him to Stephen from Django Unchained to his face.
Let me know how that works for you.
Yes, criticizing people can make them mad. That doesn't make the criticism racist.
Where's the racism in calling someone out for selling out their own race? Seems anti-racist if anything.
>Where's the racism in calling someone out for selling out their own race? Seems anti-racist if anything.
"You are black therefore you should believe affirmative action is good" seems pretty racist. I agree though, does sound exactly like something an "anti"-racist would say.
Nice strawman you're humping.
Calling someone a "race traitor" has a long and storied pedigree as racism.
A "race traitor" is quite a different concept from selling out one's race.
Race traitor: "Bob's such a BINO, he listens to classic rock rather than hiphop!" Note the layers of stereotypes.
Race sell-out: "In order to get ahead, Thomas became a slavery apologist despite his own father having grown up a slave." No stereotypes, just betrayal.
You might think it's just fine for a son of a slave to endorse slavery, but that doesn't make the other side of the argument a racist one.
TwelveInchPinhead, now that I am no longer representing a client, I would be pleased to make that comparison to Clarence Toady's face.
But I suspect that Stephen was smarter.
Yes, I totally agree that Justice Barrett believed that Roe was wrongly decided and should be overturned back when Donald Trump was still supporting Democrats and probably personally pro-abortion (if he's ever actually changed). By and large, the conservative justices are not ruling in his favor because of some party loyalty, but because of the legal issues before them. And only a very few disputed issues have reached them.
Which again is why I call shenanigans on many of his vehement opponents, who do not actually oppose executive overreach, they just oppose it when someone like Trump is doing it. You fear conservative justices want to overturn precedent, yet are upset when they affirm many of the precedents and legal presumptions that have made such executive overreach possible.
I know, I know, you claim it's (D)ifferent here. Maybe it is, but when you don't actually give a principled argument that a president shouldn't have this kind of authority, I don't believe you. And no, this is not a claim that every action by Trump is legal. The Alien Enemies Act is one possible example of overreach--but even that does not give district courts license to claim jurisdiction when they do not have it. Judges should not ignore legal technicalities because Trump is a threat to democracy.
There were folks, like me, who were uncomfortable with Obama's loan forgiveness (and actually think MQD makes sense).
But only ruling 5-4 in Biden v. Texas (after stalling for a year) was insane. They actually forced Biden to spend a year implementing an illegal policy that majorly impacted relations with a neighbouring country.
In either case, the tariffs are blatantly illegal, and the court has gone against Trump in the past, the only question is whether they're actually willing to enforce the law when it's the basis of Trump's economic policy.
*Biden's.
Biden lacked the power to deal with federal government assets like student loans because ... reasons.
OT, Humphrey's Executor would be alive and well if Biden had the foresight to dismiss Andrew Ferguson and Melissa Holyoak from the FTC.
the only question is whether they're actually willing to enforce the law when it's the basis of Trump's economic policy.
I expect the respondents to argue that Trump has potential alternative sources of authority for most of the tariffs, and will even point to administration statements to that effect.
My guess is the Court will rule that the tariffs are illegal but give Trump a chance to retroactively justify them under some other authority on remand.
An extremely* conservative Catholic woman thinks abortion shouldn't be legal even before Trump ran for office. Wow. Shocked I tell you! Shocked.
*The People of Praise community is an extreme expression of faith by Catholic standards.
"An extremely conservative Catholic woman thinks abortion isn't mentioned in the Constitution even before Trump ran for office."
FIFY
I beg to differ. There were plenty of Ron Paul republicans (not in Congress with Ron Paul mind you) who questioned Dick Cheney's interpretation of executive powers and worried that the precedent being set during the GWOT was a terrible idea.
Cheney justified it to himself and the world as "doing whatever it takes to keep America safe." And that goes for torture, extrajudcicial killing, mass spying, whatever. Easier to do when the bad guys are overseas, speak a foreign language and practice a foreign religion.
Now those chickens are coming home to roost but its not muslim jihadist's. It's run of the mill primarily catholic Hispanics and the nebulous but clearly not foreign "enemy within." Whatever the fuck that means.
Principled people back then didn't like what Cheney and Bush stood for and allowed in the name of 'keeping us safe.' Many of those same people call Trump out now for executive branch abuses and they are ran out of the room on rails for being TDS or RINO's. MAGA embraces unitary executive power because its Trump wielding the power. We will see what happens when Trump is no longer at the top. I ain't holding my breathe for any sort of principled stance by MAGA. It's a personality cult pretending to be a political movement. There is no coherent philosophy holding it all together.
I see the word "unprecedented"...and I'm reminded of the Obama administration.
Worth a re-read, from the good Ilya.
https://www.cato.org/commentary/top-10-ways-obama-violated-constitution-during-presidency
It's striking...the US government using a "letter to Universities" to get them to change their policies in regards to harassment? Only Trump would do that...right?
Only Trump would bomb a country for more than 60 days, then call it "not hostilities" to avoid the war powers act.
Only Trump would order policies changed on key programs via blogpost...
So do you think those things are OK or not?
And we didn't get here, suddenly and fully formed. Admins have been inching up, one upping the previous, for a long time. Consider all the signing statement stuff, for example.
What did the Supreme Court say about it?
"What did the Supreme Court say about it?"
Funny you should ask. The Supreme Court has never addressed the War Powers Act.
Of the ten Obama administration issues identified in Professor Shapiro's January 19, 2017 article linked by Armchair, SCOTUS had issued a precedential ruling only on recess appointments and the PPACA.
This is a wrong framing, though. So- called universal injunctions do only bind parties. The issue is who benefits, not who is bound.
The issue is who benefits, not who is bound.
Bet you got that from a former girlfriend.
Stephen!
"But putting all that aside, the good news is that, if indeed the Court is applying neutral, Trump-independent principles to the merits cases that they will soon confront, he's going to lose – not always, of course, but often."
This is transparent silliness. If the Court acts in a reasonable manner as principled jurists, I win. If they are bought and paid for whores, I lose.
"transparent silliness"
First time reading a Post post? All of them are transparent silliness.
The Court is obviously not in Trump's pocket. But also and moreover, they are still faint hearted originalists at best, and fundamentally sort of progressive. If they rule in favor of birthright citizenship for illegals and birth tourists, it will almost certainly be an illustration of that.
You mean if they apply the law as the Constitution says and has been applied for more than a hundred years?
FYI, the constitutional provision is only 157 years old; the case definitively holding that it means what it says is only 127 years old; but birthright citizenship itself is hundreds of years older than that.
"...but birthright citizenship itself is hundreds of years older than that."
And so are monarchies. So what?
So being in favor of birthright citizenship is not "progressive," as M L ignorantly claimed, but conservative.
This post is largely signaling your position on an issue we all know your position on.
But WTF is this? "birthright citizenship for illegals and birth tourists"
Birthright citizenship definitionally applies to neither of those groups. You're letting the mask slip here.
In a criminal case, if Mr. X is on trial, but the prosecutor keeps insisting on bringing evidence against Mr. Y instead, eventually the judge orders the prosecutor to stop talking about irrelevant stuff. If he keeps doing it, the case gets dismissed and maybe the prosecutor even gets fined.
I hope the Supremes do the same thing when it gets to them. The first time the government's attorneys start talking about the parents, remind them that the case is about the child's citizenship and only the child's. Interrupt them each and every time they try to go back to it.
America voters just threw out the single most corrupt presidential administration in the history of the United States, Joe Biden's, and David post writes "optimistic about the Court's confrontation with presidential power" in the Trump administration. Mr. Post is not worried about presidential power in the least. He is worried about Democrats not possessing presidential power.
It is painfully obvious that Mr. Post is another in a long line of credentialed charlatans that is safely ignored.
I mean, I do appreciate that you announce your stupidity early on!
Look, let's not get into partisan issues ... but it's clear you don't know very much about, um, actual history. Regardless of whether you think that the Biden Administration was more or less average than the usual, and regardless of how much you want to weight the current corruption of the Trump Administration (can you do corruption pro rata?) ... if we are talking about history, you have to at least give the Harding Administration some props, right?
Okay, I think most people can talk about the corruption of the Harding Administration now (it's not too soon, right) as certainly one of (possibly the most) corrupt administrations in US History. In fairness, Harding himself was more asleep at the wheel while everyone in his administration was stuffing their pockets, but still ... start with the Teapot dome, and keep digging.
Then there was US Grant. Again, unlike, um, certain current events, he wasn't enriching himself. But his wife's family made out like bandits - hundreds of thousands of dollars- and we are talking OLD TIMEY DOLLARS, not adjusted for inflation or paid in cryptocurrency for pardons! Oh, and there were a lot of others as well. Good General. Good Man. Just a terrible judge of character of the people around him.
I mean ... I guess we should be glad that Trump is bringing America back to the 1870-1923 period of corruption, amirite? He should bring back the sideburns while he's at it!
Doesn't he comb his sideburns up over his baldspot? It's hard to tell with that Ouroboros of a hairstyle.
I'd gladly take either Harding or Grant over the actual 43, 44, 45, 46, and 47.
Bad policy and unnecessary wars are much more damaging to the country than a few cronies unjustly enriching themselves at the mere millionaire level.
PS It's past time we had a president with some facial hair.
Eh .... I think that the matter of scale was different back then.
If you really look back into all of the Harding stuff (for instance) ... it's pretty effin' crazy. But we also didn't have multi-billionaires ... so there's that.
I don't think, for example, that Biden was particularly "corrupt," other than the usual "politics requires money, and people who give money get access, and therefore have the ability to get their concerns heard when they want to." Or, for that matter, in the sense that we always see today (revolving door of private/public, etc.).
Certainly not in the sense of getting airplanes, billions of dollars funnelled into companies, and all sorts of other goodies.
(Don't get me wrong- I am not defending the garden-level corruption that we have and I can talk for days about it. But what we are openly seeing in these first ten+ months dwarfs anything ... even the first Trump presidency ... in terms of open corruption.)
Yes, it's unprecedented. Which is why I think subbing in Warren Harding would be an improvement.
I don't believe Bush II or Obama were personally corrupt, or even tolerating a whole lot of it. On them it's the wars and the policies. Warren Harding and Ulysses Grant did not start wars, build up internal security apparatus, or greatly expand the scope of federal government.
You believe "Obama was not personally corrupt." What Holiday Inn Express are you playing tonight with your standup?
Biden got us out of a war and didn't follow Obama's drone policy. Somehow, though, he's obviously ("gladly") worse than Harding, who was involved in "bad policy," including selecting conservative justices whose bad policy sometimes was set in stone as constitutional law. The corruption of the Harding Administration is also not trivial. We are seeing how corruption can poison respect in government, which is important in a republic.
Joe, let me be blunt here. I'm not a Democrat. You and I are allies, sort of, until Trump is out of office, but I fully expect that sometime around Summer 2029 you'll count me with the fascists.
We have very different opinions about Joe Biden because we favor very different policies. Was he Trump? No, of course not, Trump is in a totally different category. Was he as corrupt as Harding? No, since Republican accusations need to be subjected to a steep discount; however, even as a senator and VP his reputation wasn't particularly clean. But mostly I did not like how he handled many different issues.
This is the great thing about TDS sufferers like you, constantly making a fool of yourself with total nonsense like "Biden was not particularly corrupt." Barack Obama, Joe Biden, and Hillary Clinton exceed everyone's corruption and the proof in the pudding is because they knew exactly how to be corrupt from decades long government careers. TDS sufferers like can't make a case without lying. I can make a case without mentioning anyone but the three corrupt Democrats because of their records.
This was exactly Post's problem. He makes a laughingstock out of himself with sanctimonious statements on presidential corruption while ignoring it for the better part of two decades.
@ducksalad:
So you'll be voting for Vance?
Note that Massie has stopped shaving.
...and Bootyjig has grown a beard.
Huh! You're right. But still, no sale.
The REAL topic is a intellectual property professor claiming out of thin air the authority to write on politics as if what he writes is anything other than highly partisan rhetoric. My plumber give better political analysis by a wide margin. For God's sake, the man citied the feelings of his friends and family as evidence. Then you jump in with Google search history making a fool of yourself once again.
The Biden administration was the most corrupt in the history of the United States right after the Barack "Collusion Delusion" Obama administration. The corruption of 2009 to 2017 and 2021 to 2025 has nothing coming close to rivaling it. Barack turning his VP and Secretary of State lose to sell anything American they wanted to the highest bidder while inventing new ways to get bribes and kickbacks tread new ground. All the while the President was coordinating an attack on the America press corps. The challenge of the Biden administration is to come up with a form of corruption they did not practice.
You know nothing about the corruption of the Harding administration. You couldn't find the Teapot Dome on a map if I eliminated the 47 continental states it isn't in. You also think the "Fall Guy" is a movie title. To you the Whiskey Ring is the circle your cocktail glass leaves on the table.
Loki, "stupid" is the word tattooed on your forehead to save other people valuable time.
Maybe by the time you graduate from high school you will have learned to write English.
I mean, I know both from the content and "thesafesurfer"'s shitposting history that this isn't meant to be taken seriously, but it's just weird. It doesn't even seem to pretend to relate to anything. When Rivabot talks about "lawfare" and "weaponization," you know what the references are to even if they're bullshit. But Obama being corrupt? What?
Another evidence-less post from Davey. His specialty. Seeing that the words weaponization and lawfare appear nowhere in my post. Citing facts not in evidence again Nieporent. No wonder you get sued.
You still believe the "Collusion Delusion" don't you.
Um, you're the one who made the claim; the burden of producing evidence is on you. How do you expect me to produce evidence that he wasn't corrupt?
Um, I didn't say they were. You don't read goodly. I said that Rivabot uses those words, and although they're never true, it's at least clear what he's referring to. I said that your words are just disconnected from anything.
The "Obama corrupt?" "What" is priceless.
Here is just a taste of the kind of corrupt, bald-faced lies from Barack that got Bill impeached.
Obama told CBS’ Bill Plante on March 7, 2015 that he found out about her private account and server “the same time everybody else learned it through news reports.”
The truth of the matter, While she was Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton exchanged 18 emails with President Barack Obama from her private email account. Obama sent eight emails to Clinton's private server.
All of the emails were withheld under presidential privilege and privacy act and deliberative process exemptions to the FOIA.
What another example David?
For the single most corrupt administration, they had shockingly few interstices of corruption. And surly not enough to beat out Grant, Nixon, GWB, Trump 1 and Trump 2.
"America voters just threw out the single most corrupt presidential administration in the history of the United States, Joe Biden's[.]"
Is that as true as everything else you have said, thesafesurfer?
The number of indictments and convictions of Biden administration employees is zero. https://washingtonmonthly.com/2024/12/03/number-of-indictments-and-convictions-of-biden-white-house-appointees-zero/
In addition to the criminal charges against Donald Trump himself (resulting in conviction on 34 distinct counts), none of which was resolved on the merits in Trump's favor, numerous figures in his first administration have been convicted of crimes.
From 1961 to 2016, 38 times as many Republican administration figures have been convicted of crimes as have Democrtic administration figures been. https://thetonymichaels.substack.com/p/38-more-convictions-the-truth-about
O. J. Simpson was never convicted of murdering his wife. John Gotti beat the rap a few times. Not being convicted does not equal corruption free.
Rational argument is not your thing. Just sit back and admire that Hunter Biden original you paid $500,000 for go up in value. Next you can explain how Joe became a millionaire many times over while serving in public office for half a century. Remember Barack saying he found out about Hillary's server the same way and time the rest of us did. Then his emails turned up on the server. Bury your head in the sand to preserve your delusion.
The Washington Monthly and Tony Michaels. Really?
Baude's Divided Opinion is back for Season 6. They spend a good amount of time post-morteming the impoundment case off the shadow docket.
It had Will kinda shook.
They also touch on 'Kavanaugh stops' and the latest death penalty business.
I'm not too optimistic about the tariffs from what I've seen of the shadow docket's outcome-oriented choices lately.
But the future is not yet written.
Baude and Bray have a forthcoming article-
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5680222
It explores using the unclean hands doctrine. The abstract-
Those who come into equity must come with clean hands. But what happens when it is the executive who seeks equitable relief? This Essay argues that the unclean-hands doctrine applies to the executive, though in a modified form that reflects the relationships between officials in the executive branch, between the executive and legislative branch, and between the government and the people. It then applies the doctrine to current controversies such as government requests for stays from the Supreme Court, and a pending lawsuit against the District of Maryland.
The impoundment case says you cannot sue through Impoundment Control Act due to preclusion.
This is despite the text of the ICA including about as on-the-nose an anti-preclusion clause as you can get:
"Nothing contained in this Act . . . shall be construed” as “affecting in any way the claims or defenses of any party to litigation concerning any impoundment."
Likely to prevail on the merits? That's a pretty bad sign for the Court's independence.
Though, again, the future remains unwritten.
Many friends, colleagues, and family members - not to mention commentators and pundits - who are both deeply worried about the direction in which the Trump Administration is taking the country
Then win elections. Un elected judges and bureaucrats are not going to save you.
Trump is largely doing what over half the country gave him a mandate to do.
And by "over half the country," you mean "less than half the country." (Even if you only count the ones who voted, rather than the entire population.) Why do you people feel the need to lie about this?
It reminds me of, after the Biden loss, Republicans pointing out they still had the most votes of any president before, except for Biden.
And that recalls Carl Lewis, who finally beat Bob Beamon's long-standing 1968 long jump record, as he was expected to do. Sadly, another guy had just beat it, too, and by a slightly larger amount. Longest jump ever. Almost. Squarely into second place.
When discussing elections David you need not consider people who do not vote. They are moot.
Winning elections doesn't make you a king for 4 years.
We have a Constitution, you don't seem a fan.
You suck.
“ One would think, with so much at stake, that a Republican president would have simply asked the Republican-controlled House and the Republican-controlled Senate to give him the power that he deems so central to the survival of the Nation. No?”
You cannot be this clueless, so you must be being deliberately disingenuous. The GOP does not have 60 votes in the Senate, so you know full well that even if every Republican were willing, it could not do so.
The ridiculousness of this “suggestion” causes me to doubt the sincerity or clarity of the rest of the (otherwise reasonably well written) piece.