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Another "Trump is Hitler" weekend, and yet I am reminded of why the National Socialists did so well in the 1933 election -- people feared the Communists.
I think that the US is falling into the same trap -- it is so fearful of "fascism" that it is ignoring the actual fascists of the therapeutic state. The do-gooders. The social service industry. The NGOs.
These are the real fascists and they are being ignored while people fret about Trump...
Batya Ungar-Sargon has it about right:
"The "No Kings" rally isn’t protesting Trump but rather the agenda the majority of America voted for. The Left isn't protesting a king but their fellow Americans. They aren’t standing up for democracy — they are protesting against it."
https://x.com/bungarsargon/status/1979700419824869653?t=0vp-y6Y_tBARVVxhFohwiA&s=19
She says she used to have TDS but is now a MAGA-lefty.
So many costumes it looked like Halloween. Was anyone handing out candy?
Costumes are an expression of fear. They hide identities.
..., from embarrassment.
No no no. The costumes are an expression of shitposting. It's the left finally declining to take the bait and just say mu.
Sad thing is they weren't costumes.
+ 1
I'm sure she appreciates the endorsements of a guy who rants about do-gooders and another guy who styles himself after a serial killer.
The "No Kings" rally isn’t protesting Trump but rather the agenda the majority of America voted for.
Is this the Project 2025 Trump ran from and now embraces?
Not sure I understand the rationale of the left here. The bullshit hysteria and insults didn’t work in 2024 so let’s double down on stupid? The left used to be amusing as a minority. Of course, that was before many of their lot embraced political violence.
Didn't you hear??? Comes-a-lot is 20 points ahead in Iowa!! and Texas is "Neck and Neck"!!!! She even has a chance in Alaska!!!! There might not be another Repubiclown erected POTUS in this Century!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Frank
As to "Kings", do these folk have any idea what Adams, Jefferson, and Madison *did*? Throwing newspaper publishers in jail, etc.?
Is that a good originalist standard to bring forward?
No Kings, as the name suggests, is protesting the authoritarian rule Trump wants and is increasingly succeeding at getting. Americans did not vote for that agenda.
The majority of Americans — or at least the majority of those who cast ballots — voted against Trump. Three times.
the agenda the majority of America voted for
It wasn't a majority - close, but 49.8% is still less that 50% even in TrumpWorld
OK, plurality.
What are you talking about? 312/538 is way more than 50%
A fuckwit writes:
What are you talking about? 312/538 is way more than 50%
The original comment was "the agenda the majority of America voted for". The Electoral College is not the same thing as American voters.
Right, we're a Republic and 312 is a majority of voters.
Yes, we are protesting the policies that those 312 people voted for. I mean... "duh" doesn't even cut it. Protesting policies is what protesting is all about. How is that even an observation. "They're protesting policies!" You guys's retardation exceeds itself daily.
312 is a majority of EC votes. The original comment was not about the EC votes about American voters.
Being a republic is irrelevant here.
It's relevant with regard to Trump being the current president, but you're right that it is irrelevant to the original comment. However, the original comment is flawed in claiming 50,1% voted against Trump. We could assume that the votes for Harris were against Trump but have no way of knowing who the other votes were for or against.
Um, in fact we know exactly who the other votes were for. (And we know they weren't for Trump!)
However, the original comment is flawed in claiming 50,1% voted against Trump.
The original; comment talked of a majority of American voters. That's it.
Obviously some people who voted for Harris actually were voting against Trump - I for one - but there will also be people who were voting not for Trump but against Harris.
“ 312 is a majority of voters.”
Only in the delusional world where Trumpkins live are electoral votes considered voters.
Trump got just under 50% of the people who cast votes in 2024 (77.3 of 155 million), which means he got 35% of registered voters (77.3 of 190 million), which means he got just 28.7% of American adults (77.5 of 270 million).
So just over 25% of American adults voted for Trump, not 50%, and a sizable percentage of those that did, didn’t sign on for this batshit-crazy tariff-and-revenge tour he’s on.
You Trumpkins need to stop saying bullshit like, “half the country voted for him”. Almost 3/4 of them didn’t.
"Almost 3/4 of them didn’t."
Their bad, he's still the President, so sit on it and rotate.
What a pathetic looking group of aged boomers dressed in Mardi Gras costumes. A bunch of old losers.
I'm a staunch conservative, and would am sympathetic, in theory, to the arguments that Trump is engaging in executive overreach. I hate the fact that Congress has delegated so much power to the President over the last 125 years.
That being said, I don't believe any of the protests to that effect were in good faith. These people had nary a peep to say when the executive branch under Biden flung the border open to 10 million illegals and granted legal status to millions more based on questionable grounds. They said nothing when he engaged in takings of private property by extending rent moratoriums for years longer than could possibly be justified. They said nothing when he commuted 37 death sentences, death sentences authorized by Congress and imposed by judges and juries, as the system is designed. They said nothing when he was doling out billions in taxpayer funds and calling it student loan relief. They said nothing when he used the DOJ to overcharge 1/6 protesters. They said nothing when he used government agencies to bully private media companies, private insurance companies, and private banks to de-platform or otherwise cancel conservatives.
The people protesting don't actually oppose unchecked executive power. They just don't want it used in ways they don't like. That's not any kind of principle.
In any case, I'm giving the protesters far more credit than I should. It seems like the bulk of the protests were against ICE enforcing immigration laws. Those actions are purely within the executive's purview. It's Congress that passed those immigration laws in the first place.
"It's Congress that passed those immigration laws in the first place."
...and Congress that has failed to pass a budget by regular order in decades.
Poxigah146 is spot on.
This is an excellent argument and I think we can agree for the sake of argument that Trump has done all the things that Biden did. I don't think it's reasonable to therefore conclude that this conduct is the reason for the protests.
What kings do is they use the military against their own people to put down protests. Kings remove from office anyone who puts professionalism over loyalty to the king.
Biden did not do these things, these are things kings do, and this is why people are protesting.
So who murdered Ashli Babbitt? Peter Pan?
Trump didn't use the military against the people to put down protests either. I'm not a huge fan of the military deployments, but they were to suppress crime and disorder, not protests.
As for removing people from office? Non-civil service federal employees literally serve at the pleasure of the President. Biden didn't remove anyone because he didn't have a huge staff of Never-Bideners actively trying to undermine his agenda. If he did, he would have.
Actually, Obama had already done the purging -- Obama got rid of a LOT of Flag Officers in the military, which is how it got so woke. Etc.
"Trump didn't use the military against the people to put down protests either. I'm not a huge fan of the military deployments, but they were to suppress crime and disorder, not protests."
Is that as true as everything else you have said, Poxigah146? And even if it is, domestic law enforcement is not within the province of the armed forces, per 18 U.S.C. § 1385.
"this is why people are protesting."
No, they all voted against Trump and are still mad they lost.
They're pathetic.
All dressed up with no place to go.
It's actually worse Poxigah168 -- with them constantly "crying wolf'", who would listen if Trump were to actually do something worthy of protest?
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115398251623299921
The fish rots from the head.
The fact that you don't want to credit your fellow Americans with having enough sense to see that for themselves is alarming.
Oh noes, a sophomoric comedy video making fun of his opponents. He's a monster!
The ones that didn't notice Parkinsonian Joe's rotting head for 4 years?
That being said, I don't believe any of the protests to that effect were in good faith.
I watched Bernie speak at the protests yesterday. The first half was No Kings stuff. Then it degenerated into the usual partisan rants on policy differences. Yes he did have a point about increasing prices, but that didn't seem to bother politicians of either party as Covid-as-emergency was ending, so they rushed through an additional $6 trillion in borrowing, and inflation occurred right on supply and drmand schedule.
To be fair, the first half of that $6 trillion was bipartisan. I thought the CARES Act was absurd even at the time, and stated so forcefully. But I can at least see the justification. The Democrats alone own the rest.
I’ll address the first two items on your list:
I will assume for the sake of argument that your claim that “these people” had nothing to say on these issue is accurate.
1. Your claim that the Biden “flung the border open” is hyperbole. Biden made a few changes to border policy, but as far as I know they were all reversals of changes made by Trump. I haven’t seen a serious argument claiming that these changes caused an increase in border crossings. Recall that after Trump introduced his initial set of changes to border policy in his first term, border crossings went up, reversing trend that he inherited from Obama. Trump made further changes, and the numbers fell again, getting back to the level when Trump took office. As far as I can tell, border crossings fluctuate for reasons that have nothing to do with the types of changes made by Trump.
In any case, you don’t seem to have a serious argument for executive overreach here. To make that case, you would have to show that the changes made by Trump were not only permissible, but legally required. That seems absurd. Furthermore, if you that that position with regard to the measures that Trump instituted later in his term, then you must concede that Trump also engaged in executive overreach by failing to implement them at the start of his term.
2. Claiming that Biden granting legal status to immigrants “based on questionable grounds” is vague. Let’s look at what Trump has been doing with regard to Temporary Protected Status:
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.444868/gov.uscourts.cand.444868.279.0_3.pdf
Whatever you mean by “questionable grounds,” I doubt it can be as bad as this.
This post is already too long, so I won’t address the rest of your list individually. The bottom line is that when people fail to be convinced by your arguments that Biden engaged in executive overreach, you treat that as proof of bad faith. Perhaps you should consider the possibility that your arguments simply aren’t all that persuasive.
I haven't seen anything that White and old since the last time I went to visit meemaw in the old fogie's home.
Um, the Nazis "did so well in the 1933 election" because they had already seized power.
Then why did they hold an election?
They only won 44% of the vote in March 1933 and needed to form a coalition with the German National Peoples Party to form a government.
It was that coalition that passed the Enabling Acts.
The Fiscal Year End Treasury MTS report was released last week.
Here are the highlights:
The deficit was 41 billion lower in 2025 than 2024. For Oct24-Jan24 (Biden Months) it was it was 308 billion higher that the previous year, for Feb25-Sept25 (Trump months) it was 349 billion lower than the same period in FY2024.
I'm sure that's the way Biden laid out the budget.
In terms of actual outlays we spent over 7 trillion, 7,009 billion v 6,735 billion last year. Biden's budget was 6.9 trillion, but he was already 319 billion ahead of the FY204 spending for the Biden months by the end of January.
Trump actually spent 59 billion less in the Trump months than in FY2024.
As for revenue, it was 316 million higher in FY25 than FY24, every month was higher than the previous year except Oct24.
None of the figures are inflation adjusted.
Bottom line is the Trump deficit blowout has not materialized yet, but we should keep cutting just to make sure. As a percentage of preliminary GDP the deficit 'only' 5.8% of GDP which would only look good next to last years 6.4%, but it is an improvement.
Guardian reports U.S. dollar down 9% against other currencies since Trump announced his first tariff policy.
Which currencies?
Good! makes our products easier to sell overseas.
Yea, so what?
The Dollar was probably too high anyway, when the dollar is too high it makes imports too cheap, and makes our exports uncompetitive. I remember going to Europe for a vacation when it was 1.50 dollars per Euro, now its 1.17.
Its about exactly the same level as it was 4 years ago, and it went up at least partially because people fleeing the Euro because of the Ukraine war.
The deficit blowout is relative to not making permanent Trump's first-term tax cuts. That is under Trump, we have forgone improvement in the deficit in tax policy rather than an explosion.
One-third of the Trump-months increase in revenue was due to tariffs (as expected). But Econ 101 predicts the long-term impact on inflation will more than counter that positive. The other two-thirds came from individual income taxes which I doubt had anything to do with Trump's tax policies.
The Trump months spending cuts are dominated by the Department of Education ($239B less). Spending was about negative $105B in September causing a negative number for February through September. There were a few months in 2024 when spending spiked (e.g., $87B in June). I suspect these figures are related to student loans.
The increase in tax receipts is is due to increased personal income, both nominal and real.
If the Trump tax cuts hadn't been extended we would almost certainly be in a recession beginning of next year as the increase in withholding hit paychecks.
So far Econ 101 has been wrong about the inflationary impact of the tariffs, at least so far.
What Trump policy increased personal income in Feb-Sep?
You and econ 101. Makes me laugh.
Ignorance doesn't make me laugh.
Sadly, we can no longer believe numbers coming out of the Trump administration given his penchant for manipulating them.
Boston OCR is GONE! 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
The US Dept of Education's Offices of Civil Rights in Chicago, Philadelphia, New York City, Dallas, San Francisco, Boston, and Cleveland are all closed.
This is progress....
It's Sunday.
The OCR litigation isn't over yet.
Details?
Seriously, I missed that...
See Victim Rights Law Center v. United States Department of Education, 1:25-cv-11042 (D. Mass). Plaintiffs got an injunction to stop reductions in force at OCR. The First Circuit recently stayed the order because it could not distinguish the facts from the related case McMahon v. New York where the Supreme Court overruled the First Circuit.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69921190/victim-rights-law-center-v-united-states-department-of-education/
You'd regard a repeal of 13A as progress, so we needn't use your definition of the word.
Graham Platner, the unknown challenging Susan Collins, is starting to look like what I always suspected he was.
He's 100% disabled because of PTSD and getting $57,600 a year, tax free -- essentially $70,000 -- which is good money for Hancock County, Maine. He said he was a Communist, that Mainers are "stupid racists", and that "all cops are bastards."
His campaign manager quit,
https://www.newscentermaine.com/article/news/politics/elections/candidates/graham-platner-maine-senate-race-election-social-media-reddit-posts-police-white-rural/97-92662cb7-f9b3-43a3-81de-c35bc19ea9f1
Seems to be the new thing, lefties pretending to be moderate independents to run because the Democratic brand is so toxic.
Um, you just literally described the opposite of that. If the Democratic brand were toxic, then you'd see moderates pretending to be leftist.
He doesn't want to put the (D) next to his name on the ballot.
TF are you talking about? He's running in the Democratic primary. The entire purpose of that is to put a (D) next to one's name on the ballot.
Wonder why Dr. Ed is obsessing about Platner when Mills is Collins' principal challenger.
Mills is even older than Collins. The actuarial table on her even making the 2026 election isn't great.
About six weeks to go for hurricane season and so far.....
nothing despite the scare headlines of the usual media outlets.
Has King Trump deployed a super secret Golden Hurricane Dome to protect the US (and of course Mar-a-Lago)? So far most of the storms seem to have bounced off a wall and headed toward Europe.
Bumble — If that, "wall," were to remain in place, it would portend a brutal winter along the Eastern Seaboard. Make it a permanent winter feature and you might get an incipient ice age out of it.
Interestingly, the first weather observer to begin to understand that phenomenon was Ben Franklin.
Stephen, nothing is permanent in this world but death (of course subject to religious beliefs of a hereafter or re-incarnation).
Bumble — I remain mindful that I live on land which was fairly recently buried under ice a mile deep. It is not evident whether return of that ice would be mediated by local cooling, or by local warming. Plenty of places in the world feature warmer climate than I get in winter, but lie under ice caps year round.
That happens because they get more winter moisture. Vice-versa, too. Plenty of places colder in winter get less snow and ice than I see. Some mountain ranges in the Northern Rockies get little snow, endure bitter winter cold, and remain nearly bare. Little moisture.
On the Olympic Peninsula in Washington, it is much warmer. Mountains there remain heavily glaciated. The parts not under ice are cloaked in dense temperate rain forest. Moisture, not temperature, is the difference.
As a climate feature, moisture is typically more variable, and less stable regionally, than temperature. But moisture levels prove highly sensitive to temperature changes.
In western Nebraska there is a region called the Sand Hills. Aptly named. Most of the western half of that state is little more than a Sahara, lightly veneered with grass. Google Earth shows the dune patterns clearly, ready to go back on the march the moment annual moisture drops just a bit more. The Nebraska dune field is the largest such feature in the western hemisphere.
Vast areas of the Northern Rockies look ready to transition back to desert. They are doing it during time scales noticeable over mere decades. Wooded mountainsides first dry out a bit, then weakened trees get attacked by insects, and then they burn. Not much vegetation comes back in the burned areas. Erosion takes over instead.
Same pattern across the Canadian taiga. You don't have to journey north to see the effects. They drift across the Eastern Seaboard in giant smoke clouds every summer.
That is a notably different result than seen in the volcanic Cascades. For exterminating life there is little to match a gigantic eruption. But Mount Saint Helens is greening up. More moisture.
To direct human experience, global temperature transitions feel gradual, to the point of seeming negligible. Resulting changes in moisture levels feel more like lights-on, lights-off. You do not have to look hard to see such moisture lights flashing all over the world.
With that experience in mind, legal complacency seems peculiar. Or, not uncommonly, opportunistic.
It is a fact that the law of the United States has long treated large parts of the national commons as potential or actual private property. That may be precedent, but precedent for what?
The choice seems to be on the one hand, precedent to keep those presumptions of private advantage under accustomed corporate controls. Or, on the other hand, to apply those same precedents of private property in the commons more broadly, and put some of that interest under the control of everyone. With the notion of, "everyone," interpreted to authorize individual legal standing at least as compelling as that of any corporation.
It is not evident to me what legal principle favors the former choice over the latter. I see dismissive commentary on that subject, like Professor Adler has supplied, I take that not as dispassionate legal analysis, but as advocacy of particular private interests. I do not understand why the law should favor accustomed private interests over more general ones not previously considered.
When does the "Global Warming" get here?
ME & NH are in severe drought.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/12/weather/noreaster-coastal-storm-flooding-wind-climate
Queenie doesn't know the Earth is tilted.
New England still in drought condition, NH/ME severe.
We had a wet end of summer down here in Arizona, not only seasonal monsoons in August and July, but the remnants of a Pacific hurricane gave us a week of rain in the first week of October.
Weather is variable, and its like squeezing a balloon, dry there means wet someplace else.
What does your comment have to do with hurricanes?
"This coastal storm is called a nor’easter because winds blowing from the northeast push water toward the coast, causing it to erode beaches, pile up water and cause flooding."
Bob -- the only real difference between a hurricane and nor'easter is that a hurricane is gone in 6 hours while a nor'easter can linger 36-48 hours.
A hurricane is an African thunderstorm which continues to grow as it goes offshore to the northwest. A nor'easter (aka "winter hurricane") occurs when a front coming across the country merges with energy coming up the coast, forming a hurricane-like storm off the Delmarva Peninsula. It then comes up the coast -- winds are less focused (no eye) but more extensive. It can have lower air pressure than a hurricane.
It's like a microburst versus a tornado -- different but equally destructive.
It has been a very lame hurricane season, and that's not entirely a good thing.
I wouldn't want a direct hurricane hit on my hometown, but we depend on the rain from tropical storms and the far outskirts of hurricanes to break the summer drought and refill the reservoirs.
So you're good with someone's hometown being hit by a hurricane as long as you only get the peripheral rain bands?
I learned it from you, dad.
Hardly.
Good with that? Sure. It is what it is.
No one's wishing can (yet) change whether a hurricane dumps on any particular place. It is simply the natural course of events.
That said, everyone should note what natural disasters are peculiar for their area, and appropriately prepare. Hurricanes give some days notice, so modest preparation gives one time to implement once the forecast is clear. Other risks come faster, with wildfires giving only hours to act, and tornados minutes. General preparation involves having a modest stash of cash, critical medications, images of important documents, and a practice of keeping the gas tank(battery) at least half full.
All good advice to avoid being the morons crowding grocery stores, gas stations and the local big box scrounging for those things.
What are hurricanes ?
What's a tornado ?
In Nevada a wildfire is usually smoke from California and a good sized fire lingers a week to a month of 1/4 mile visibility.
We do have earthquakes, but mostly we have grit when the wind gets up to 50 - 70 mph. Keeps the teeth and the car clean. A couple of days with a big blow is a quiet peaceful time here, I say.
After Helene last year, I'm quite happy to have a lame hurricane season. We STILL haven't completely recovered from that, some of my favorite campgrounds are still closed, as are parts of the Blueridge parkway.
But according to Dr. Ed hurricanes only last six hours.
If they last longer, call your doctor.
Some interesting commentary from Garry Trudeau: https://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury
Should Donald Trump hire a taste tester?
What's interesting is that you find this interesting.
Maybe Trudeau should.
I would say unhinged doesn’t begin to describe your comment here NG. Perhaps you would care to elaborate on your meaning?
He's making veiled threats against POTUS. He's lost his mind.
I'm not making a threat of any kind. I'm commenting on the Vice-President's overweening ambition.
It's not smart to make subtle assassination threats against a public official, ng.
"hire a taste tester"
From one of my favorite poems, by A. E. Housman:
There was a king reigned in the East:
There, when kings will sit to feast,
They get their fill before they think
With poisoned meat and poisoned drink.
He gathered all that springs to birth
From the many-venomed earth;
First a little, thence to more,
He sampled all her killing store;
And easy, smiling, seasoned sound,
Sate the king when healths went round.
They put arsenic in his meat
And stared aghast to watch him eat;
They poured strychnine in his cup
And shook to see him drink it up:
They shook, they stared as white's their shirt:
Them it was their poison hurt.
--I tell the tale that I heard told.
Mithridates, he died old.
I can say unequivocally that I am opposed to him doing so.
Cyanide's tasteless, that "Odor of Bitter Almonds" is a Post-mortem event
Argue with Agatha at your own risk!
And WTH does a breathless Dame Margaret Rutherford saying, "Almonds! Almonds!" even mean?
"Almond" is the flavor of maraschino cherries, and of pistachio ice cream? Or is it something else?
If you were an authoritarian seeking to influence another head of state, you might offer him a luxuriously appointed Boeing 747 airplane. You might spend big at his hotels or invest in one of the many companies owned by him and his children. You might buy his sneakers, NFTs and other branded products. In the case of President Trump, a potential influence peddler has a vast menu of choices.
But why bother with all that? While campaigning, Mr. Trump announced his cryptocurrency venture World Liberty Financial, and, just days before his inauguration, his namesake memecoin. Anyone can indirectly deliver money to a Trump family entity simply by buying World Liberty’s tokens. Mr. Trump and his family have accrued billions of dollars in paper wealth through crypto ventures owned by the president, his sons and family friends.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/17/opinion/world-liberty-financial-crypto-trump.html
and yet he was preferable to a Candidate who's hubby "Dougie" slapped a girlfriend at the Cannes Film Festival.
Which sums up the DemoKKKrat's dilemma so well, Dougie didn't slap his Girlfriend at a "Bord-ega" (HT J. Biden), at a Yankees game, on a busy Brooklyn Street,
but at the friggin Cannes Film Festival.
Suck it Queenie.
Umm, that's an expression
Frank
Deranged.
No, I don't think "Dougie's" "Deranged" he's just one of those entitled rich guys, like Clinton, Ted Kennedy (who left a young woman to asphyxiate (NOT "drowned", there's a difference) in an upside down Oldsmobile) Al Franken, Chris Dodd, AlGore (at least when he was screwing Hotel Maids he didn't make them change the towels) Andrew Cuomo.
OK, maybe Comes-a-lot IS "Deranged" she seems to think she's still got a (Political) future
Frank
The Haredim have historically been exempt from Israel’s draft, which is compulsory for most citizens, and over the two years of Israel’s war in Gaza, this became the source of considerable political strife. Ever since the most recent provision extending their exemption expired in 2023, the Haredi political parties — which made up nearly one third of Benjamin Netanyahu’s governing right-wing, religious coalition — have pushed to enshrine a new exemption into law, despite widespread opposition. The Haredi parties backed the coalition’s controversial “judicial overhaul,” a sweeping program, unveiled in January 2023, that would strip the country’s judiciary of much of its power and shred Israel’s fragile system of checks and balances. They did so in order to shield any new draft exemption law from judicial review.
But if the images of Haredim standing alongside soldiers in Beit Shemesh suggested that the struggle over ultra-Orthodox conscription was headed toward resolution, it was an illusion. After Israel’s Supreme Court ruled in June of last year that the government’s refusal to draft the Haredim was unconstitutional in the absence of any legal framework to extend their exemption, the defense ministry began to issue draft orders. The Israel Defense Forces say they have so far sent out 80,000; barely 3,000 Haredim have complied…
As the Gaza war ground on, anger toward the Haredim boiled over, and not only among secular Israelis. For much of the “serving public” — those who send their children to fight or serve themselves — the refusal of the Haredim to shoulder any part of the war burden has been a scandal. A poll last year showed that nearly three quarters of Israelis believed exempting the Haredim from military service was unacceptable; a majority of Netanyahu’s Likud party voters share this view.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/18/magazine/israel-haredi-draft-netanyahu-war.html
It's none of your Bee's Wax, why don't you take care of your own People's problems first, allowing millions of their unborn to be murdered by (mostly white female doctors) for one. (So they can grow up and get murdered by one of their own kind)
Anyway, Israel's military service system is far more DemoKKKratic than our own, where mostly the "Deplorables" (HT H. Rodman) serve for the "Benefits" (When you get killed in Iraq/Afghanistan/Syria/Ukraine you can get buried in a Veteran's Cemetery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Frank
That's twice today that you've excepted multiple paragraphs from NY Times articles without putting quotation marks around the text. Maybe you should, eh, lest readers think they are your words?
Maybe you should go to a "No Kings" Rally in Gaza, I hear Ham-Ass has a way of dealing with peoples with your umm, "Proclivities", you could call it a "Separation" package, but it's not like the ones Samir and Michael got at Initech.
Frank
Seriously, do you not understand how hyperlinks work?
Not that way.
Including a hyperlink doesn't mean you don't use quote marks.
The Haredim also do not seem to work much, and live on the largess of government handouts. As long as the government funds their housing and other living expenses, put them along the border. They might then understand the value of sharing in a common defense.
Oh gee a person who hates Jews and wants Israel cleansed has opinions on Judaism and Israel.
The swastika flags are confirmed to be a hoax, appearing differently to the eyes than to a digital camera, much as Brett suggested previously.
https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/10/17/swastika-flag-scandal-exposed-as-anti-republican-hoax-n4944974
While I'm fairly certain that sort of thing is technically possible, your link doesn't provide any actual evidence of means used, so I wouldn't actually regard it as "confirmation". It's just the same assertion published in a new location.
My favorite part of that is the last paragraph:
Always what you find at the end of a legitimate news article.
You always find it at the beginning of a Guardian Article:
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Utah officials say they were contacted by family friend of Tyler Robinson, 22, accused of killing rightwing activist
How Charlie Kirk turned campuses into cultural battlefields – and ushered in Trump’s assault on universities
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The initial portrait emerging of the man authorities say killed the conservative activist Charlie Kirk in Utah is a complicated one.
Tyler James Robinson, 22, was arrested on Thursday after contacting a family friend who then called the sheriff’s office in Washington county, Utah, officials said. Washington county is 260 miles south of Orem, home of Utah Valley University (UVU), where Kirk was killed.
Utah’s governor, Spencer Cox, said that person reported that Robinson had at least implied – and potentially confessed – to killing Kirk, a staunch ally of Donald Trump.
A public records database shows Robinson’s family resides in Washington, Utah, where Trump garnered support from 75% of voters in the 2024 presidential election. Robinson’s parents have Republican listed as their party affiliation, said public voter registration information, and they are considered active voters (each cast ballots in the 2024 election that gave Trump a second presidency).
Public records also indicated Robinson registered as a voter in Utah in July 2021 but was considered inactive and did not declare an affiliation to any party when he registered.
man looks ahead with straight face in mugshot
Police mugshot of Charlie Kirk shooting suspect Tyler Robinson. Photograph: Utah Department of Public Safety/Reuters
Robinson is a third-year student in the electrical apprenticeship program at Dixie Technical College in Washington county, said a statement from the Utah system of higher education.
He briefly attended Utah State University (USU) for one semester in 2021. A USU spokesperson said Robinson took classes for a pre-engineering major and then took a leave of absence for an undisclosed reason.
He received concurrent enrollment credit through Utah Tech University while in high school from 2019 to 2021, the state higher education system’s statement said.
A Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints spokesperson said Robinson joined the congregation at a young age.
Photos on a social media account associated with Robinson’s mother – deactivated on Friday – appear to show Robinson was the oldest of three boys. That account said Robinson’s mother was a social worker.
Robinson’s family had vacationed together to Mexico in 2023, according to a video reel published on a social media account associated with Tyler’s father. A 2017 post showed the Robinson family posing with rifles at a military facility.
A neighbor of the Robinson family, 66-year-old Kristin Schwiermann, said she had the impression Tyler was academically “smart”.
She alluded to high scores he received on the college admission test known as the ACT, which Robinson’s mother posted about on social media.
News that Robinson was accused of murdering Kirk “shocked the crap out of me”, she said.
“I didn’t think he would have done this,” Schwiermann said.
Cox told reporters that a family member of Robinson who was interrogated by investigators said Robinson had “become more political in recent years”.
The family member, Cox said, recounted how Robinson had gone over for dinner and mentioned that Kirk was scheduled to speak at UVU. The family member recalled Robinson talking about not liking Kirk and his viewpoints.
CBS News reported being told by multiple federal law enforcement officers that Robinson’s father confronted him after recognizing him in surveillance images released by officials Thursday. Robinson admitted that he was the person in the photos, and his father urged him to surrender to investigators, the network reported.
That allegedly prompted Robinson to say he would rather die by suicide than turn himself over to law enforcement. Robinson’s father then called a youth pastor close to the family and ultimately helped Tyler surrender to investigators, CBS reported, citing its sources.
'We got him': Utah governor announces arrest of Charlie Kirk murder suspect – video
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'We got him': Utah governor announces arrest of Charlie Kirk murder suspect – video
Records do not show any known prior arrest history for Robinson.
After Robinson’s arrest, Cox said inscriptions on unfired gun casings recovered by investigators of Kirk’s killing contained overt references to the anti-fascist movement. One reportedly read: “Hey fascist! Catch!” Another purportedly read, “Oh, Bella ciao” – a reference to an Italian anti-fascist resistance song. A third reportedly said: “If you read this, you are gay, LMAO.”
Other casing inscriptions have been widely interpreted as references to gaming and online culture. One of those as relayed by Cox was “up arrow, right arrow and three down symbols”, which many have perceived as a reference to a sequence of controller inputs that release a bomb in the Helldivers II video game.
Another engraving reads, “Notices bulges OWO what’s this?”, which the New York Times suggested alludes to a phrase used for trolling in online role-play communities.
Cox said Robinson’s roommate had shown investigators online messages he sent that stated “a need to retrieve a rifle from a drop point, leaving the rifle in a bush, messages related to visually watching the area where a rifle was left, and a message referring to having left the rifle wrapped in a towel”.
Other messages also referred to “engraving bullets and a mention of a scope, and the rifle being unique” and that “he had changed outfits” after the shooting.
Authorities said that they had recovered a “bolt-action rifle” suspected of being used to kill Kirk after it was discarded in a wooded area. Cox on Friday said that rifle – with a scope mounted on it – was a Mauser model 98, in .30-06 caliber.
That style of rifle is popular with hunters, according to analysts. Investigators did not immediately say whether they have a theory about how the shooter may have obtained that weapon.
Information on the public records database consulted by the Guardian shows Robinson’s father had previously obtained hunting and fishing licenses from the states of Utah and Alaska.
A local jail official told CNN that Robinson was initially being held on counts of aggravated murder, felony discharge of a firearm and obstruction of justice.
Associated Press contributed reporting
This article was updated on 12 September 2025 to remove quotes after the verified source who attended high school with Tyler Robinson said after publication that they could not accurately remember details of their relationship.
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Lol, $15/mo and they will still beg you for money, just "Far fewer" times.
Geez Kaz, that's a lot of electronic ink to show that David Notsoimportant is full of shit.
" One GOP office discarded its flag immediately upon seeing the symbol, indicating awareness and refusal to tolerate the hateful image."
So, no physical evidence remains they say? Convenient. Sounds more like the GOP planted the flags as part of a 'false flag' operation.
I agree. The picture proffered doesn't seem possible. Never say never, but to do something like this, you'd have to hide the red in the white somehow, and these are pigments, not colors.
I also doesn't help the picture is granier than Bigfoot's ball sack.
Assuming he isn't an ass who put a swastika up deliberately and is now playing CYA, there's a much easier explanation why this only shows up in digital images, aka files on a computer.
appearing differently to the eyes than to a digital camera, much as Brett suggested previously.
How would that work? Something to do with infrared and an infrared camera? But why do that?
And then how did the reps spot it? All they have to do to prove their ignorance of the swastikas is invite photographers in to take pictures using normal cameras, or even just to look at the flags.
The whole thing is very weird, and I'd like to know more about this so called "optical illusion."
Assume American constitutionalism survives Trump, and political happenstance puts the government in the hands of the Ds.
Trump, out of office, and dead of natural causes, will leave behind a host of malign precedents, probably with most unaddressed by the courts. Would systematic posthumous impeachments make sense, to prevent a repeat of abusive Trump-stye executive governance by successors of whatever political stripe?
Any such process would be divisive, and consume resources needed elsewhere. But the downside of letting Trump's practices become time-honored by default is bad too.
Maybe figure out a way to do it almost pro-forma. Charge staff to break down executive abuses by categories chosen to support separate impeachment charges, collate evidence, and work the votes in among other business without affording parliamentary opportunity for grandstanding.
Just put everything abusive on the record, properly submitted as if for trial, and voted on quickly without debate. Let the reps and senators go on the record according to the way they want to be remembered by their constituencies, and by history.
Look, Lathrop, just give it a rest already. The sort of thing you're proposing isn't the stuff of an enduring democracy, it's what successful totalitarian revolutionaries do to the people who resisted them.
You're not going to get your posthumous show trials, just resign yourself to that.
What Lathrop is proposing is fascism pure and simple.
"Would systematic posthumous impeachments make sense"
lol
You might not be around to see it, lathrop. Better check those mortality tables.
No, posthumous impeachments are not a thing. Article I, § 4 of the Constitution provides:
Obviously no provision there applies to a corpse.
Living former officials can be impeached after leaving office, where the disqualification penalty could still apply. President Grant's Secretary of War William W. Belknap was impeached after having resigned in 1876 (albeit that both events occurred on the same day, with the President having accepted the resignation only hours before the House voted to impeach). He was acquitted by the Senate, so no penalty was imposed.
Posthumous executions are a thing, why not posthumous impeachment?
Posthumous impeachment:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadaver_Synod
Rather perjoratively described:
Trump Considers Overhaul of Refugee System That Would Favor White People
It might be better described as not systematically favoring people least likely to assimilate.
Notably, conforming to modern media principles, though they claim to have the documents, they're not going to share them with us, just their own take on them. "According to a draft of a third report, obtained by The New York Times," but where do they let us read it?
They don't, because we might not interpret it the same way.
Even if it was to favor white people, so what? Japan doesn't allow non-ethnic Japanese to immigrate. Every race around the world prioritizes their own except for whites in the West.
The Constitution only demands race blindness for people subject to the U.S.' jurisdiction. It doesn't demand race blindness with regard to immigration policy.
You might barely be right as a matter of strictly formal constitutional law, but I don't think that, once you've taken into account cultural issues, there's anything to be gained by taking race into account. And much to be lost, if it causes you to reject high quality potential immigrants.
The problem is that culture and race are inextricably linked. People of any race can assimilate into "another race's" culture, but only if they enter in small numbers. You allow 100 million Chinese in tomorrow, you become China.
There's no way to implement a system that takes assimilability into account without taking race into account.
But that's just to say that culture and race AREN'T inextricably linked. They're merely correlated.
If you implement a system that takes assimilability into account, it's going to look like one that takes race into account, to anybody who doesn't look at its inner workings, (Because of that correlation.) but it doesn't have to be one.
'You and I want the same race-based policies, but I want them for non-racial reasons!'
If they're for non-racial reasons, they're not race based.
Don't be an idiot. I know it's futile to ask, but don't.
If race correlates with how likely you are to successfully assimilate, any policy that concentrates on assimilation IS going to correlate with race, even if it's not the tiniest bit race based.
If your policy is to only let in white people, then any 'it's about the culture' nonsense is a whitewash.
1) It's false; vibes from a racist.
2) Were it not false, it's still racist; Intent can matter, but at some point when your policy is all whites and no nonwhites it's a racist policy.
It’s almost as if you didn’t bother to read Brett’s post before you hastily threw together that strawman.
Yeah Sarcastr0, you definitely didn’t read Brett’s post.
Brett, how do you evaluate likelihood to assimilate in an objective manner? Are you evaluating at the individual level?
This is you, noticing a vibes argument.
No, this is me asking Brett to continue the conversation. I’m not clear how his idea would function, and I’d like to better understand.
I also understand that doesn’t align with your “gotcha” pseudo omniscience approach, but not all of us argue in bad faith.
Vibes isn't bad faith, it's just making a factual assertion with no support other than your internal checksum.
It's a vice of Internet arguing. We all do it; some more than others. This blog has absolutely made me better at looking up and posting my sources, and reevaluating my position if I don't have them.
"Brett, how do you evaluate likelihood to assimilate in an objective manner? Are you evaluating at the individual level?"
What difference does it make? Maybe you just make an educated guess about who is likely to assimilate.
My educated guess is that white South Africans who feel persecuted in that nation are highly unlikely to assimilate well in this nation, with its legal and cultural tradition of equality for blacks.
More generally, Bellmore is heedless. He assumes without a moment's pause that this nation's cultural baseline for assimilation excludes races and cultures he disparages. If those are instead presumed a notable part of this nation's baseline, then that stands as a demerit for Bellmore's own assimilation.
Yikes. If you like Trump, just imagine the next Democratic president with that power. And if you hate Trump, well, you might just find out the ramifications.
Very strongly correlated. I think such a system would be nearly impossible to implement. For example, if you were analyzing whether an Indian engineer would likely assimilate, how would you test? Ask him whether he likes watching baseball and test his knowledge of American sitcoms? I just don't see how any system like this could be implemented on any large scale.
Also, while I think people of any race CAN assimilate, it does seem like even assimilated people living as a minority in a society feel an instinctual kinship toward others like them. I know people of Mexican descent who have been in America longer than my family who are American in every way, but they still seem to have some connection that they can't describe to Mexicans living in Mexico, to the point where they won't support restrictions on immigration from Mexico because they see it as tantamount to disrespecting their ancestors or the policies that brought them here.
If that's the backdrop, how can a society ever let in large numbers of "others" without damaging itself?
And the U.S. is a better country than Japan, with what you describe being both a symptom and cause of that.
https://www.reaganfoundation.org/ronald-reagan/quotes/since-this-is-the-last-speech-that-i-will-give-as-president-i-think-it-s-fitting
Here's a bit you can read:
“The sharp increase in diversity has reduced the level of social trust essential for the functioning of a democratic polity,” according to one of the documents. The administration should only welcome “refugees who can be fully and appropriately assimilate, and are aligned with the president’s objectives.”
It deserves a pejorative description.
No it doesn't. Only an idiot and traitor would support importing people who cannot assimilate.
Why would you want refugees who CAN'T be fully and appropriately assimilated? You actively want to make the country a worse place to live?
The basic rule here is that, though the federal government can do things that benefit non-citizens, it's objective has to be at all times benefit to citizens, with any benefit to non-citizens merely a bonus.
You assume you, or this administration, has any kind of insight into assimilation.
You, above, state that your take on who can assimilate is indistinguishable from who is white.
MAGA, riven with white nationalists as it is, can only be pleased with your 'I'm not a bigot, but' gullible collaboration.
Yeah, duffus, I assume that anybody who WANTS assimilation is going to have more insight into it than somebody who wants anti-assimilation, who hates the way the US is, and wants to change it in any way they can.
Here you give the game away, "If you implement a system that takes assimilability into account, it's going to look like one that takes race into account"
Your accusation of anti-assimilation and hating the US is telepathic ad hominem. It's a lazy dodge, but you use it a lot.
Your…
Have you ever considered the majority of your posts, especially when you’re remora-ing Brett, tell other people what they actually think?
Why aren’t you asking clarifying questions instead of asserting (obviously skewed) omnipotence?
I quoted Brett.
Deal with the quote or gtfo
You don’t seem good at following easy things.
Funny, Brett didn’t say any of that. That’s your horseshit projection talking. Intelligent, inquisitive people ask questions to clarify. Insecure midwits hellbent on “winning” make shit up.
"somebody who wants anti-assimilation, who hates the way the US is, and wants to change it in any way they can"
That's an accusation.
Intelligent, inquisitive people don't need to pretend a scurrilous accusation is just normal conversation.
Like you, making a ton of accusations against me based on not reading who I reply to.
From that, and other conversations I've seen you have with the non-MAGA Posters on here, any pretense you have of seeking intelligent conversation is one-sided; I don't need to take lessons in Internet civility from someone who only selectively walks their own walk.
jay-tee. Please don't feed the remora because like the Terminator he will never stop. Always having to get in the last word.
It is why he is Il Douche.
So you didn’t quote Brett. Why lie about it?
Only the ones who consistently lie, exaggerate, or outright deny. Hard to have conversations with people who post in bad faith like that. And for the “MAGA” posters, you and others attack them, often rabidly, and preclude most discussion.
Unfortunately, I have a tendency to mirror the tone of the bad faithers and need to be better. Thanks for the reminder.
As far as internet civility, I think you have a huge blind spot. Your tone is downright uncivil most of the time, even when the other party doesn’t reciprocate. You consistently tell others what they think and manage to derail what could otherwise be interesting, engaging discussions.
Bumble posted:
Maybe, maybe not. But let’s separate how you feel about his posts from who Sarcastr0 the person really is.
....and just who is SarcastrO "the person"?
"If you implement a system that takes assimilability into account, it's going to look like one that takes race into account..."
What's wrong with that? For example, English as a native language would be a strong indicator of ability to assimilate, and English as a native language is correlated with race.
Language would be at the very top of the list.
Other items.
Countries with a similar legal system.
If their home nation has a similar culture( similar religious beliefs, similar favorite sports, similar entertainment similar education etcetera).
A shared history ( England easily wins this followed by most of Europe and Canada).
I'm generally all for assimilation, but I suspect my definition differs a bit from yours.
Meanwhile, you skipped the part about:
are aligned with the president’s objectives.
That doesn't sound like assimilation to me. It sounds like authoritarianism.
I’m curious, how do you define it?
I’m not sure what aligned with the president’s objectives means, but it sounds ominous. Either way, a president’s objectives don’t seem like they belong in the discussion.
Asking people who aren't just out-and-out racists: what is this obsession with "assimilation"? In concrete terms, what do the people who say that sort of thing even mean by it? Presumably it's not so crude as the notion that, e.g., people should eat hamburgers and hot dogs rather than Indian or Mexican food, but what does it mean? And why is it important?
I can understand the notion that speaking English is important, except that it has been the case throughout American history that non-Anglo immigrants' English is spotty at best but that their kids speak perfect English.
Much of the MAGA cult adores Donald Trump because he hates the same people as they do.
From the article linked by Brett:
Are those folks among those whose entry this country should prioritize? I hardly think so.
White supremacy is indeed an American value, but not one that should be celebrated.
Moreover, I don't think MAGA people respect American cultural norms or values.
On the one hand, I don't trust Trump. On the other hand, I don't trust to media to give accurate summaries of Trump's policies.
On the third hand, I don't have the energy right now to do a detailed investigation to find out if the media, this time, is telling the truth.
https://officechai.com/ai/this-is-embarrassing-google-deepmind-ceo-demis-hassabis-roasts-openais-claims-of-gpt-5-solving-erdos-problems/
OpenAI people claimed that GPT-5 "found" solutions to challenging problems in Mathematics that were "open". Others claimed this represented an example of AI accelerating basic research. It turns out that it's just a case of AI helping to be a better search engine, in a case where the guy running the web site listing those problems as open vs solved didn't know that humans had punished solutions to those problems.
I guess that literally IS "finding" the solutions...
I'm just happy that it's solved Nuke-ular Fusion, and found a way to make Gasoline Engines run on tap water (Ask me how!!!!!)
Frank
Only for the non-math people forced to read them!
Google's AI, on being asked, what is the largest rectangle that can be drawn within any shape, responded thus:
"AI Overview: The largest rectangle that can be drawn in any shape is a square with the same perimeter as the shape itself, a property that holds true for rectangles inscribed within a circle, ellipse, or any given perimeter."
AIs do not have understanding so don't know why this is so obviously wrong
How about that "No Kings" Protesters get the same treatment Ashli Babbitt got?
It must have been OK, her murderer, umm, killer, umm, not only didn't get any sanction, he got promoted.
Or Charlie Kirk (His name is Charlie Kirk)
Still can't understand why his killer hasn't been tried and executed yet.
Frank
If Saint Ashleeeee had conducted herself with the same propriety as the No Kings protesters, she'd still be alive. She FAFO'd big time.
Funny (not funny) how amid all of the insurectiony activities that day the only discharge of a weapon was by a cowardly affirmative action cop.
If you try to break into the House chamber, you get shot in the face. It doesn't get much more Law and Order than that.
Here's a good idea: Don't try to break into the House if you don't want to get shot in the face. The more you know!
Good to know you believe someone who was no threat deserved to be executed, even when the executioner put many more lives at risk with his reckless actions.
And that was just his latest reckless act with a firearm.
"No threat????"
She was part of a mob violently attempting to break into the Capitol.
...and yet only one shot was fired that day.
Ah yes, the new pro-criminal right wing. What an amazing turnaround.
Oh wait, I forgot it's only pro-white-Republican-criminals. And you wonder why we think you're fascists.
No, I think it’s been long obvious that many people don’t respect the opinions of others and aren’t open minded enough to even attempt to understand.
Fascist seems to be your shorthand for those with whom you don’t agree, no matter the topic, and allows you to white knight while you’re at it.
Wrong. We've been very specific about what's fascist. Here's a few fascist things that if you stopped doing, we'd stop calling you fascists even though we'd still disagree:
Using the military domestically
Undermining the judicial branch and due process
Directing the FBI to investigate political foes
Directing the DoJ to prosecute political enemies
Excusing and pardoning criminal friends
Intimidating the media, private business and the Fed
Vote suppression and election denial
Designating the opposition as terrorists
Creating a vast, secretive (masked / unmarked), cruel, unaccountable, out-of-control paramilitary
Self-dealing
bernard11:
She was literally surrounded by LE and had to squeeze through a small opening, significantly constraining her movement. In other words, easily restrained.
Shooting her was by far the most dangerous option, endangering everyone. Byrd has a history of recklessness with his firearm and his actions fit that pattern.
So if BLM or Antifa behave in a violent manner the feds can shoot them? Good to know.
"Still can't understand why his killer hasn't been tried and executed yet."
Frank, your demented understanding of Utah's criminal justice system calls to mind the late, lamented Lewis Grizzard's shtick about his grandfather preaching to the Pleasant Grove Baptist Church: "Damn, Brother. I Don't Believe Ida Told That." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpGr_RUioiM&t=75s
Getting off a Regional Jet at an Airport close to a major Military Base (Really narrows it down doesn't it??, could be SAT, LAX, IAD, SEA, ORD, ATL, MIA, DFW) last night,
Number of Soldiers/Marines in Uniform, returning from somewhere, ("I could tell you but then I'd have to kill you" one said)
Wifes, Girlfriends, (Ok, now a days, Husbands/Boyfriends) there to meet them,
One (Wife or Girlfriend thank Jehovah)
In an "Alice in Wonderland" Costume
At least I think it was a Costume, had the Petticoats and everything
Far Cry from when returning Vietnam Vets had to wear Civies and get spat upon by the 60's version of "No Kings"
THAT's how I spent my "No Kings" Saturday,
Umm, travelling (to serve our Veterans and for the Money, OK, mostly for the Money),
not leering at young women in Alice in Wonderland Costumes,
well maybe a bit of a leer.
Frank "King Leer"
I must hand it to you, you are entertaining. I enjoy reading your stuff.
So you're saying I'm "Funny"??
This isn't going to end well.
When they tell you you are going to be "made", don't go.
I'm funny too( but looks aren't everything).
A class action lawsuit alleges that a certain brand of shoes makes a squeaky noise with each step, sometimes immediately and sometimes only after a few months of use. This is unfair, deceptive, and otherwise lawyer-enriching. The lawsuit is in Oregon, where defendant has its principal place of business. The plaintiffs are New York and California residents seeking damages under state law. Plaintiffs want more than $5 million.
Plaintiffs are represented by Burser and Fisher, P.A.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71600160/bologna-v-on-inc/
>lawsuit alleges that a certain brand of shoes makes a squeaky noise with each step
>www.courtlistener.com
Name checks out.
Oh my God, squeaky shoes. The horror.
Next it will be basket ball court manufacturers, who make a surface that results in thousands of squeaks per game.
Remember olestra, a non-digestible fat for frying foods that led to people soiling themselves with greasy farts? Also did not need a class action, but rather falls under the 'fool me once' category. https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/2006/01/cspi_olestra.html
Eh, it only did that if you consumed absurd quantities. It was the usual, where something that was perfectly fine in moderation gets ditched because some idiot discovers it has bad effects if you sit down and eat five party sized bags of chips.
No King in America today!
Good job everyone!
I was quite impressed by the level of maturity and cogent messaging...hold on...my bad, I was thinking of something else.
If a municipality receives an allocation of Federal funds, either directly or routed through the state government, is the entire municipality considered a recipient of Federal funding, or only the department?
Considered by whom, and for what purpose?
Title IX compliance
Is Virginia going to elect an Edgar Winter look-a-like as governor over a Winsome black woman?
Probably. An awful lot of Virginians seem to think it really is horrifying to have national borders.
Yes, the Governor of Virginia is key to controlling the border. It will be her key responsibility.
One imagines Michael P showing up at a water board meeting and demanding to know what they're doing about the invasion in progress. The rant goes on at some length since most water boards didn't think they needed a sergeant-at-arms.
"Yes, the Governor of Virginia is key to controlling the border. It will be her key responsibility."
Then why did she bring it up?
You talking about Spanberger? Hadn't been following it until now but what I read is that in response to an interview question she said she'd undo Youngkin's EO, which diverted state police efforts away from fighting crime to making Kristi Noem look good.
Why did Youngkin do such a thing? The RINO rather pathetically thought he could get in good with MAGA voters. Not a chance, the average MAGA keeps hearing stuff about Loudon and Youngkin's failure to have the whole school board arrested.
'“It’s horrifying that President Trump has made illegally crossing our border a criminal act,” Spanberger said during the interview.
However, the act of crossing the U.S. border illegally has long been a criminal offense under federal law, codified in 8 U.S.C. §1325.
The statute, enacted decades before Trump’s presidency, makes unlawful entry into the United States a misdemeanor on first offense and a felony for repeat offenders."
https://wokespy.com/va-dem-gov-candidate-spanberger-horrified-that-trump-enforces-immigration-law/
Apparently this former Congresswoman doen't know much about the laws Congress enacted.
Hey guys, the quote doesn't match what she actually said in the video clip. Bumble is busted again.
To be fair, the problem in this case may not be his honesty so much as would be his inability to tell legitimate news sources from illegitimate ones. What he claimed she said matched what the link claimed she said. He was just too gullible to actually check if they were being accurate. (Although one suspects he chose the source in the first place because it tells him what he wants to hear rather than what's true.)
The problems with his sources have been pointed out to him before. In the spirit of charity we can call it deliberate indifference to whether statements are true or not.
Hang on a minute. Mazie Hirono wanted a railroad built to Hawaii?? What is she— nuts? That’s crazy! How am I just hearing about this?
Other people are talking about a tunnel under the Bering Strait to connect Alaska to the eastern tip of Russia.
From the eastern tip of Russia one must travel over a thousand kilometers through wilderness to reach an unpaved road that a thousand kilometers later connects to a paved road that is part of the national road network. The trip would make the James Bay Road look urban.
But, I mean— a railroad all the way to Hawaii across thousands of miles of ocean? What is she thinking? Is she going senile???
Are you seriously asking that question?
Yes. I am really asking. Is hirono losing it? This plan is crazy!
She's not going senile, XY.
Trump made up the story. He's the one going senile,though I think he's just about all the way there.
It's not senility, it turns out she was that smart all along.
You're not nuts. Trump is.
Hirono wanted a train on Oahu, not across the Pacific. Trump, with his cognitive decline accelerating, claimed she wanted a trans-Pacific train.
An entire ocean is now trans?
He conflated Crazy Maize's plan with Biden's comments on a train across the Indian Ocean.
"Mr Biden was speaking to the League of Conservation Voters in Washington DC on Wednesday night, saying, “We have plans to build a railroad from the Pacific all the way across the Indian Ocean”. "
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/joe-biden-indian-ocean-bridge-b2358939.html
So he confused something Hirono just said with something Joe Biden — who looks not a lot like Hirono — said several years ago?
So he doesn't know the difference between Hirono and Biden, or between the Pacific and Indian Oceans.
And this is evidence that he's not demented?
The crown jewels have been stolen. Specifically, the crown of Empress Eugénie was among many valuables stolen from the Louvre last night. It was found damaged on a street outside. Other equally unique artifacts were stolen. It will be impossible to sell them on the open market or to respectable buyers.
The crown had 1,354 diamonds while the average Frenchman had a puddle of mud. Another article of royal clothing had 2,634 diamonds. There's some wealth disparity for you.
I honestly had no idea that security at the Louvre was so horrible. Apparently they were coasting on everybody assuming it was well guarded.
It's France. What would you expect?
Hey, nobody has asked for the Epstein files to be released.
Also missing today are any comments about the renewed fighting in Gaza.
Will the Supreme Court prove it's originalist bonafides by further endorsing the unitary executive theory, giving us a 21st century version of George III, Louis XVI, and Catherine of Russia? Allowing Trump to create his own Gestapo? 86 47.
One thing is not like the other.
Meanwhile, the president of Colombia — formerly a close ally of the U.S., until the least respected leader of the U.S. in history took office — said that Trump had murdered an innocent Colombian, and Trump's response was to throw a tantrum.
Of course he did.
Look. Donald Trump is the most loathsome individual ever to hold high office, or maybe even low office, in the history of the US.
And those making excuses for him are just about as bad.
I'm sure Trump will be along with some BS story about the fisherman, and all the usual suspects will gobble it up and repeat it.