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Assessing the Extent of Political Violence in America
Cato Institute scholar has a great overview of the data on how much political violence there is, and who perpetrates it. It is less prevalent than many think, and right-wing political violence is more common than the left-wing kind.

The awful murder of conservative activist Charlie Kirk has stimulated interest in the nature and extent of political violence in the United States. We do not yet know the identity and motive of the killer; but there is at least a substantial likelihood the motive was political in nature. My Cato Institute colleague Alex Nowrasteh has a great overview of the available data on political violence since 1975. He finds that the overall incidence of such violence is much lower than many assume. The 9/11 attacks dominate the stats, accounting for 83% of total deaths. Setting that aside, right-wing violence is significantly more prevalent than the left-wing variety.
It should, perhaps, go without saying. But I condemn the murder of Charlie Kirk without reservation. It is utterly indefensible, and I hope the killer is caught and severely punished. I was no fan of Kirk and his ideology. His organization, TPUSA, even once put me on its "Professor Watchlist" (they apparently removed me from the list a few months later, without explanation). But no one should be attacked or killed for their political beliefs. The murder is all the more tragic in light of the fact that Kirk left behind a wife and two small children. They did nothing to deserve this.
Now for Alex's summary of the data on violence:
A total of 3,599 people have been murdered in politically motivated terrorist attacks in the United States from January 1, 1975, through September 10, 2025. Murders committed in terrorist attacks account for about 0.35 percent of all murders since 1975. Only 81 happened since 2020, accounting for 0.07 percent of all murders during that time, or 7 out of 10,000. Terrorism is the broadest reasonable definition of a politically motivated murder because it is the threatened or actual use of illegal force and violence by a nonstate actor to attain a political, economic, religious, or social goal through coercion, fear, or intimidation….
Eighty-three percent of those murdered since 1975 were committed by the 9/11 terrorists…. The Oklahoma City Bombing accounts for about another 5 percent. Those murdered since 2020 account for just 2 percent. Terrorists inspired by Islamist ideology are responsible for 87 percent of those murdered in attacks on US soil since 1975…. Right-wingers are the second most common motivating ideology, accounting for 391 murders and 11 percent of the total. The definition here of right-wing terrorists includes those motivated by white supremacy, anti-abortion beliefs, involuntary celibacy (incels), and other right-wing ideologies.
Left-wing terrorists murdered 65 people, or about 2 percent of the total. Left-wing terrorists include those motivated by black nationalism, anti-police sentiment, communism, socialism, animal rights, environmentalism, anti-white ideologies, and other left-wing ideologies. Those murders that are politically motivated by unknown or other ideologies are a vanishingly small percentage, which is unsurprising because terrorists typically want attention for their causes.
"Right" and "left" are somewhat arbitrary and incoherent categories. Thus, people can argue about some of Alex's coding choices here. For example, I am not sure black nationalists really qualify as "left" and incels as "right." Nonetheless, the coding here mostly tracks the way these terms are generally used in current US political discourse. Thus, Alex is right to conclude that right-wing violence is more prevalent than the left-wing kind, even though one can quarrel with the classification of a few specific perpetrators at the margin.
Given the outsize weight of the 9/11 attacks in the data, partisans will be tempted to categorize radical Islamists with their political opponents. Thus, left-wingers might argue that Islamists are on the right, due to their extreme social conservatism (they hate LGBT people, want women to be subordinated to men, and so on). On the other hand, one could also argue that they are actually left-wing, due to their hatred of Israel and opposition to American influence in the world. These latter attitudes are more prevalent on the far left, though there are elements of them on the nationalist/MAGA right, as well. In my view, al Qaeda and its ilk don't really fit on the US right-left political spectrum, and thus Alex is right to group radical Islamists in a separate category from either.
Regardless of the source, it is reassuring that political violence is relatively rare. The average American is vastly more likely to die in a car accident than be a victim of politically motivated murder. And, as Alex notes, such attacks account for only a tiny percentage of all murders. Prominent political figures are probably more at risk. Nonetheless, the overall level of danger is low, even for most of them.
For understandable reasons, Alex's data does not include death threats, which are surely far more common than actual murders or attempts. While the vast majority of such threats aren't acted on, they still cause pain and fear to those they target. I have reason to know, having gotten several myself, over the years, including one that turned out to be from "mail bomber" Cesar Sayoc. Better-known activists and political commentators likely get a lot more than I do. The increasing prevalence of social media and other forms of electronic communication have, I suspect, made such threats more common.
I am not aware of any good data on the relative prevalence of death threats by ideology (as opposed to actual attacks). But I suspect that right-wing ones are more common here, as well.
One person's experience isn't necessarily indicative. But over twenty years of libertarian commentary on law and public policy issues, I have said many things that annoy people on both right and left. With one arguable exception (a Russian nationalist angered by my condemnations of Vladimir Putin's regime), every single one of the threats I have gotten was from right-wingers, mostly related to the issue of immigration. By contrast, I have never gotten threats for things like criticizing affirmative action, condemning socialism, opposing "defunding the police," or attacking student loan forgiveness. Some of these have generated other types of online nastiness. But never any threats of violence.
As already noted, more systematic data is needed here. Perhaps my experience will turn out to be atypical.
I don't see any ready solution to the problem of politically motivated death threats. Given how easy they are to make, it is probably unrealistic to expect the authorities to track down more than a small fraction of them. Social media firms may be doing a better job of combating them then a few years ago. But that, too, is difficult. All I can say is that we should condemn them, and avoid being intimidated by them.
As for actual political violence, it is good that it remains relatively rare. But we should be wary of the danger that it might become worse.
UPDATE: Alex Nowrasteh has a follow-up post with more information on his methodology and data sources.
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“What I was really disgusted by yesterday is a couple of talking heads that sees this as an opportunity to say we’re at war so that they could get some of our conservative followers lathered up over this. It seems like a cheap, disgusting, awful way to pretend like you’re a leader of a conservative movement.”
His name is Charlie Kirk. Only 87% killed by Moose-lems? Does that count the Marines murdered in the Beirut bombing in 1983? Those killed in the Lockerby bombing in 1988? Those killed by Cancers caused by the 9-11 attacks? Why do we let a single one of these (Redacted) in our Country?
Frank
Ilya uses Ilya Math, which is a combination of New Math and Common Core with hatred of AmeriKKKa spun through it.
"Ilya Math(tm)" is evidently the core tool used in the article that is cited. Per the author's own statements, the only measurement used for "political violence" is 'successful murder.' This excludes by design riots, arson and firebombings, violent assaults, infrastructure sabotage, other property destruction, unsuccessful murder attempts, etc. Given the clear bias of the Cato author and the fact that he does not give citations or any evidence of even the highly selective numbers that he comes up with I am highly suspicious of even those figures.
Both articles are pure Atlantic Magazine-level partisan garbage, unworthy of publication in either of the platforms that hosted them.
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Would you like some cheese with that whine?
Nice. NPC has entered the chat.
The 2009 Fort Hood shootings was classified as "workplace violence." The attempted wholesale shooting of the Republican ball team by James Hodgkinson was initially classed as "suicide by cop."
When the raw data is compromised, drawing conclusions is foolish at best.
It also excludes the January 6th riot. The data is clear about killings. Do you have some real data about the other items you mention? If not your comment is irrelevant opinion.
Ilya is entitled to his warped view of America and us conservatives. It means nothing though. Just another talking head taking advantage of our freedoms to spew his liberal BS. He can go pound sand!
You: Opinion
Ilya: Facts
I suspect trying to lump Islamic terrorists either left or right is a fool's errand as the terrorists would be just as happy killing Americans wherever they might fall politically.
This brings to mind Michael Moore's immediate reaction to 9/11: why did those Islamic terrorists attack NYC and DC even though the people in those two cities didn't vote for George Bush?
Answer: They viewed NYC (and the repeatedly-attacked WTC) as the hub of the American economy, and DC is of course the national capital (with the Whitehouse and Pentagon targeted specifically, not the civilian residents who voted Democratic).
Ilya is a spewer of political rhetoric and hate in his own right. Half of his article's published on this site have a rant about "Trump" in their headline much less the body of the article.
Take a seat Mr. Somin and let someone with more credibility address the issue.
So no actual argument in refutation of someone else's statistics.
So you believe an average of only around one person was murdered in the entire US per year as the result of antiChristian/White/proabortion/police sentiment/or any other 'rightwing' cause combined for the past 50 years (excluding 9/11)? LMAO you guys are truly nuts.
I am more inclined to believe a Cato researcher finding an unexpected result than a cultist who wants to think that leftists are responsible for 1500%* of political violence.
*Trump maths
Don't dodge the question. You truly believe anti White/European/police/Christian/all other right wing animus factors combined (excluding 9/11) only played a role in one death on average per year across the entire United States over the past 50 years like the 'study' indicated?
You're the one dodging any honest rebuttal to some non-Ilya's statistics. That you do implies you can't.
The US average 20,000 murders a year and we're in a low ebb. To say that anti white animus let alone plus animus against police, plus against christians plus against every other factor the 'right wing' supports combined only plays a role in one of these murders beggars belief. Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence.
Am I talking to children? Is this some fantastically advanced logic you can't comprehend?
From the OP summary:
Political violence... is less prevalent than many think...
Maybe you're one of the "many?" Your handlers have been trying to convince you for a while now that there's this violent wing of Democrats wreaking havoc across the country. There isn't.
"many think", lol. That was just Ilya the Lesser projecting his imagination onto the public. He doesn't quantify either the number of people or what they supposedly think, much less provide any evidence that his claim is correct.
People overestimate the frequency of most rare events, though, so even assuming Simple Somin's claim is true, it means essentially nothing.
It's a study. With data.
It's quantified all to hell.
The one are of subjectivity - partisanship of the shooter - is something the OP explicitly says is something people can argue about.
So where is the projection?
Okay...lets say you're right. You're the guys harping on about what a horror racism, sexism, homophobia etc etc is and the pile of bodies it creates and evil vicious killer neonazis around every corner but by this 'study'
the kinds you are concerned about are collectively responsible for rounding up, ....8 murders a year....out of 20,000 murders. Do you understand how low that is in the grand scheme of things? Its at the level of extreme freak accident that simply fluctuates up and down randomly.
Congratulations. That means we've basically solved serious racial, antihomosexual, antitrans violence at least to the point where we should really focus on whats causing the other 99.996% of murders. Heart disease kills...by what you claim 85000% more. Priorities?
we should really focus on whats causing the other 99.996% of murders
So is your argument that all violence has the same upshot so why care especially about political violence?
Because what you're bucking is socioeconomics and human psychology.
1. Unlike most other kinds of violence, political violence predominantly effects wealthy people who have a much larger social voice. More media coverage, more sociological impact.
2. It also goes at our social fabric in a way that other murders do not. Hence the pieces on this blog about tolerance.
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Maybe you wish it wasn't so, but it is. So this piece is relevant to our American experience.
No. Reading is fundamental. The study excluded hate crimes from the data. It's focusing only on politically motivated terrorism.
"So you believe an average of only around one person was murdered in the entire US per year as the result of antiChristian/White/proabortion/police sentiment/or any other 'rightwing' cause combined for the past 50 years (excluding 9/11)? LMAO you guys are truly nuts."
AmosArch, does what SRG2 "believe[s]" about the statistics cited in the Cato Institute scholar's report make any victim of politically motivated murder any less dead?
You illustrate Jonathan Swift's maxim: “It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.”
The problem is that the statistics are bogus and have been for 60 years -- if you don't count White victims, there aren't any.
OK, here's a statistic for you: Males, though less than 50% of the population, are responsible for over 90% of the gun violence. So according to statistics, the problem is males. Maybe males shouldn't be allowed to own guns.
And that's the problem with your statistical argument, especially the one you've just made against trans people: You can always find a statistic to support beating up on this group or that group.
I don't actually care if the violence is primarily coming from the left or from the right; it needs to stop regardless. The real problem is polarization, in which both sides make out the other side to be the devil. Maybe turning down the volume would help. Maybe someone should suggest it to Trump.
It's in his dissertation, folks!
This was a new low for Ilya.
Just when you think he had hit the basement.
Why is he here? He doesn’t reason. Just reflexively anti Trump anti right. Go write for TPM, Ilya. That’s where you belong.
He will go even lower in the future no doubt.
It would seem to make a lot more sense to complain about the policies of the current president rather than about stuff Hillary supposedly did over a decade ago.
Mr. Somin's decision to weigh in on this subject is another sign of the narcissism that informs his writing. We can live without Mr. Somin's opinion on this and other topics, but Mr. Somin apparently cannot live without informing us of what he thinks.
Golf clap!
On the other hand, we're all dying to know your opinion of Prof. Somin's post.
Then why are you here?
Less than 65 people were murdered as the result of antipolice sentiment or antiwhite/European sentiment across the whole country over the entire country over the past half century? Those numbers seem a little suspect to me.
>But I condemn the murder of Charlie Kirk without reservation.
Nope, you don't care. You just rushed to post this to counter what you feel is the political capitol the 'right' gained through the shooting. That was your only concern.
Nope, you don't care.
Ah yes. First, where is Damikesc to come in and accuse you of reading someone else's mind?
Second, this is a popular response from some on the right, it seems. What you really want is non-cultists here to applaud the assassination. When you don't get that, you have to lie - after I posted on the main Reason pages that the murder was wrong and appalling, some fat Nazi said that no-one believed me. Of course, if I had been lying, it would have indicated that I lacked empathy - which would have got Charlie Kirk's approval, no doubt
If a day after someone you liked got brutally slaughtered right in front of their wife and children, I came out there with a long rambling diatribe about how awful they and everything they believed were....with a one or two sentence disclaimer buried somewhere about how I didn't cheer for their death. Would you sit back and marvel at my compassion with the words 'Now there's a guy who really cared about X'?
It may not be at the forefront of your mind nor one of the top ten things you care about, but it doesn't mean you really don't care at all.
I wouldn't marvel at your compassion but I certainly wouldn't dismiss your comments as meaningless.
What do you want, a long eulogy saying how terrible it was, how saintly Charlie Kirk was, how he was going to be the NextGen saviour of the US - such that any post which did not contain a lengthy paean to him could be dismissed as insensitive left-wingery?
So your feelings are hurt, therefore this post is incorrect.
You're not entitled to a realty that bends according to what you passionately desire.
Good lord what a said display of Internet solipsism.
Did writing that give you satisfaction? Posting it? The reaction you don't get?
Like "owning the libs," is there a thing called "owning the cons?"
Are you no more than a reaction to all you hate?
I have a public challenge Ilya -- I double dare you to answer this:
When Dr. Martin Luther King Jr was assassinated in 1968, his supporters spent a week burning cities flat. It go so bad in DC that US Marines set up machine guns on the steps of the US capitol. DC lost something like 1200 buildings, 900 stores.
Why shouldn't we be doing the same things?
We could be burning law schools, court houses and government offices. We could do a Clairborne Hardware against those who cook and clean government offices, etc.
Violence works -- it worked in '68 and it would work now.
So why shouldn't we do it?
“Why shouldn't we be doing the same things?”
Because you’re too busy sitting behind your computer?
It's a laptop, bleephead.
If you hate the blacks so much and find their behavior so deplorable, perhaps you should endeavor to elevate your own behavior above theirs. If you think you're superior to them, act like it.
There you go again, Somin, trying to introduce facts into an internet argument.
Okay I'll bite. Where is your evidence that anti Christian/white/police/other anti right sentiments combined played a role in an average of one death or less per year across the entire country for the past 50 years?
I've not looked at the csv file that Nowrasteh provides. Perhaps you can do so.
Easier to rant. Just like Congress critters, who'd rather rant about how bad the President is, but not introduce any bills to counter what they rant about.
the chart literally just lists numbers. what does that prove?
The US average 20,000 murders a year and we're in a low ebb. To say that anti white animus let alone plus animus against police, plus against christians plus against every other factor the 'right wing' supports combined only plays a role in one of these murders beggars belief. Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence.
Am I talking to children? Is this some fantastically advanced logic you can't comprehend?
chart literally just lists numbers. what does that prove?
You're the one that's childlike here.
You also confuse all murders with political violence.
Passion does not make a terrible and obvious strawman a good argument.
Passion doesn't validate jack shit, really. You seem to think it does, though.
"My Cato Institute colleague Alex Nowrasteh has a great overview of the available data on political violence since 1975."
Interesting that the count starts as soon as the hippies stopped detonating a bomb a day.
I invested 10 seconds in checking the original article. The first graph has a "Get the data" link. Looks like you could select any date range you want. If you cared. Surely the chance of refuting the horrible Ilya would be worth some data harvesting. What would it take, a minute, 5 minutes?
But perhaps you're just lazy or would rather rant than take the chance of proving yourself wrong.
He isn't wrong that the graph starts just as the Weathermen were shut down. If you look at the "get the data", that's where the data starts, 1975.
Pointing to a "get the data" link that only shows the values in a single time series is dumb, and mostly suggests that you didn't even look at it yourself. The "data" linked there doesn't permit any analysis beyond what the graph shows.
And as "That ain't my name" points out, the clearest underlying data set was from Nowrasteh's usual immigration near (specifically deaths due to immigrant terrorists), rather than political violence -- or even political murders -- generally. I tried to find the list of events to see how it treats the murder of Brian Thompson, but couldn't find an actual database.
Holy shit, this is garbage. The actual "study" cited is titled "Terrorism and Immigration" and focuses almost entirely on foreigners and terrorism. Despite what this ass is claiming, this isn't actually a "study" about political violence in general, just terrorism. And it only includes deaths, so injuries or property damage, so almost all politically motivated environmental terrorism is excluded.
There is no explanation or justification given for why things are classified as left or right. For example, why is "incel" considered right wing? Probably, and I am guessing, it is because the author uses data from the Southern Poverty Law Center. Which are purveyors of bullshit. Anti-Christian violence is Other Religion, but anti-Jewish is Right wing. Was this asshole even alive during the past two years?
On top of that, the specific events categorization is crazy. The Pulse Club shooting is listed as Right wing. The guy was a fervent believer in ISIL and wanted to get the US to pull out of the Middle East, so why is this considered as Right wing?
As usual, the Lesser Ilya is just spewing bullshit and hoping people won't look closer.
THANK YOU for actually looking at the data.
The point of the cited article is to justify open borders by arguing that you are more likely to be murdered by someone other than a foreign-born terrorist.
The guy who shot Kirk was probably not a foreign-born terrorist. What does this prove?
The Kirk shooting was in the news, so Somin thought that was a good opportunity to promote open borders.
A good heuristic is that data doesn't say what Alex Nowrasteh claims. It's true about immigrant crime rates and it's true here. (Another good heuristic is that Nowrasteh isn't going to change his claims when people point out his methodological flaws.)
How do you distinguish between political violence and terrorism?
And if your main issue is about the political valence tagging, you should read the OP.
Because ISIL is extremely far right?
We all know Ilya is just another immigrant taking advantage of the freedoms afforded in America to spread his liberal rhetoric. That is his right. However, it does not make it accurate or even worth the time to read. As you mention, the data does not even address "political violence in America". Ilya dong what he always does, crying wolf...
Some might consider the over 50,000,000 unborn babies murdered since “Roe” to be victims of “Political Violence”.
His name is Charlie Kirk
Frank
Frank, a murder and a lawful abortion are mutually exclusive. Like red and green or like a circle and a rectangle, one cannot be the other.
Why are 'Incels' considered right-wing?
How are Incel extremeists defined?
How many of the 391 supposed right-wing murders are commited by these undefined Incels?
This data set smells like dead fish.
Prof. Somin brought up those exact points himself. Did you not read the article you are commenting on?
"One person's experience isn't necessarily indicative. But over twenty years of libertarian commentary on law and public policy issues, I have said many things that annoy people on both right and left. With one arguable exception (a Russian nationalist angered by my condemnations of Vladimir Putin's regime), every single one of the threats I have gotten was from right-wingers, mostly related to the issue of immigration. By contrast, I have never gotten threats for things like criticizing affirmative action, condemning socialism, opposing "defunding the police," or attacking student loan forgiveness. Some of these have generated other types of online nastiness. But never any threats of violence."
To be fair, based on your postings here, that might just be because almost all of your energy goes into your open borders efforts. All the rest of that seems to be a rounding error, even if it does exist.
When your definition of right wing terrorism includes white prison gang murders, but doesn't include black or hispanic prison gang murders in the statistic, even though the black and hispanic prison gangs are just as racist, you have a completely worthless statistic. Of course, Somin is more than intelligent enough to realize this, but that would blow his entire retarded screed out of the water, so he ignores it.
It seems appropriate that this post would appear soon after Prof. Volokh's post which references Mark Twain's aphorism about "lies, damned lies, and statistics". Somin's purpose here is to push a narrative, not to elucidate truth. Even if these numbers are accurate (which, given their connection to CATO, makes them suspect), they are not especially helpful. Political violence "since 1975"? How is that a helpful metric? The people committing political violence today are not the same ones who were committing it 50 years ago. Charlie Kirk was not murdered in 1975. Donald Trump was not shot in 1975. A Bernie Bro did not try to murder the entire Republican Congressional baseball team in 1975.
The history of modern leftism is synonymous with the history of political violence. The left kicked off the "Golden Age of Assassinations" with the assassination of Tsar Alexander II of Russia by members of the socialist revolutionary People's Will party on March 3, 1881. In July of that same year, the International Social Revolutionary Congress met in London and endorsed "propaganda of the deed", a phrase popularized by Italian Marxist Carlo Cafiero, who believed that ideas sprang from deeds, not the other way around.
The 1890s saw assassination attempts from the left on virtually every European head of state, Queen Victoria herself famously surviving seven. Of course, many of the attempts were successful. On June 24, 1894, French President Sadi Cardot was assassinated by an Italian anarchist, supposedly as retribution for the execution of two French anarchists. On August 6, 1897, Spanish Prime Minister Antonio Canovas del Castillo was assassinated by an Italian anarchist who hoped to incite a socialist revolution. On September 10, 1889, Empress Elisabeth of Austria was assassinated by an Italian anarchist who later claimed he just wanted to kill a royal, not caring which one. That list is hardly exhaustive, and America itself was not immune from the international wave of leftist violence as demonstrated by such incidents as the Haymarket Riot in 1898 and the assassination of President William McKinley in 1901, both perpetrated by anarchists. ("Anarchists" being the term of the day, before "communists" came into general use.)
And then the 1960s and 70s saw another wave of leftist violence from such groups as the Weathermen and the SDS. (Many of those terrorists are teaching in universities today, passing on "propaganda of the deed" to a new generation.) Are we seeing another wave in recent years? As President Javier Milei of Argentina said after the murder of Charlie Kirk, "leftism is, in all times and all places, a violent phenomenon." It appeals to the unstable. Leftists are the heirs of the French and Russian Revolutions, who believe any atrocity is permissible as long as it is furtherance of their fantasy egalitarian society.
But here's Somin the libertarian, who these says rarely sees a leftist narrative he doesn't want to push, asking, "Who ya gonna believe: your lyin' eyes or these statistics?"
CORRECTION: the Haymarket Riot occurred in 1886.
Not familiar with the record of prewar Japan apparently.
And If we're going to scratch through history how would you assess the Argentine junta's killings? Leftist because they were South Americans doing the killing?
Are you referring to the "prewar record" of the Japanese government? If so, that hardly seems relevant to a discussion of extrajudicial political violence, typically directed against a ruling government. And if you are not, then, yes, I concede I am not much of a student of Japanese history. The same applies to the actions of the Argentine government.
The point is not to deny the existence of right-wing political violence, but to point out that political violence is ingrained into modern progressivism, the idea of "direct action" to affect abrupt political change. If its roots are in the French Revolution, then the foundational text of modern conservatism is Edmund Burke's Reflections on the Revolution in France, a defense of traditionalism and working from within to affect gradual, incremental change.
This is disingenuous. If you exclude governmental political violence and only discuss anti-govt movements, then by definition all political violence would've been leftist before there were any leftist governments.
And your claim isn't even true on its own terms; authoritarian governments routinely commit extrajudicial political violence.
Oh. I'm pretty sure the point was exactly to deny the existence of right-wing political violence.
I am extremely skeptical of analysis like these, especially when I can't see the incidents included.
And I know this - the wikipedia page about terrorism in the United States doesn't include several incidents of left wing terrorism, for example, the 2016 murders of five police officers in Dallas by Micah Xavier Johnson, a radical black nationalist. I consider that a textbook example of terrorism. He didn't know the victims, and did it purely out of political idealogy (it does mention the incident, but doesn't include it in the numbers).
And if your starting point is 1975, you are cutting out a lot of left wing terrorism such as the Weathermen or the Symbionese Liberation Army.
And BTW the math here isn't adding up. How are these two statements true at the same time??
You're missing the context: It's implied that he's talking about a percentage of those murdered in terrorist attacks.
And?
9/11 was a terrorist attack.
So the point is, the math does check.
Could you really not figure that out on your own?
The first line refers to the percent of all murders that where the result of a terrorist attack. The second line refers to the percent of *terrorist murders* that were committed by the 9/11 terrorists.
OK, I'm going to really piss off the VC commentariat. Here's Paul Krugman this morning with the ADL's data on domestic political killings for the ten years starting in 2015. https://open.substack.com/pub/paulkrugman/p/waving-the-bloody-shirt?r=noop6&utm_medium=ios
He shows their graphic showing that for all deaths due to violence by domestic political extremists 76% were due to right wingers, 18% domestic Islamists, and 4% due to left wing extremists.
Why do people not know that RW violence far outweighs LW? The obvious explanations are:
- Left violence is news, right violence is dog bites man. Compare the coverage of Charlie Kirk to that of the MN state legislators, one and her spouse killed and one and his spouse wounded, in June.
- Every time the press, or official reports, mention it people like the commenters here throw a fit, so they avoid mentioning it.
- People, again like the commenters here, simply refuse to believe uncomfortable facts.
Why do people not know...
Well, from your linked article, because he doesn't provide any link to the data source. And, to be blunt, we don't expect honesty from Paul Krugman. He says his source is the ADL, and again, it's a vast understatement to say that they are not an objective source.
So, without any data, I can't comment on his set specifically. I will say, based on having been through this argument before, that the entire 'game' is what you classify as right or left wing. Which is another way of saying that, given the same initial data set, a researched can get any result he wants. You need an a priori definition, and I have yet to see a study that even tries that.
Whatever the ADL may have been decades ago, in more recent years it has become a virulently partisan, left-wing apologist joke. (Paul Krugman has always been one.)
As for the Minnesota state legislators, they were killed by a kook who claims he did it because Tim Walz told him to. That's the reason the left-wing media stopped covering it.
I have read through that ADL list and it's BS. In fact, I recall there was a Reason.com article about the problems with it. It includes murders by right wing extremists, even if they had nothing to do with right wing extremism. For example, a white supremacist who killed his wife in a domestic dispute. That's outright dishonest to manipulate the data that way.
By any measure, LW violence outpaces the RW by several orders of magnitude. Right wingers didn't riot in the wake of Charlie Kirk's death.
And btw the murder of the MN state legislators is a poor example, since the killer was right wing on some issues, but at the same time he was delusional and believed he was doing in on behalf of gov Tim Walz (D), so Walz could run for senate.
Exactly this: The ADL data is full of bullshit.
My favorite example is a group of drug dealers at a meth lab were raided by police, resulting in a shootout that killed several people. The ADL classified these as Right wing murders because there was a pickup with a Confederate flag bumper sticker owned by the drug dealers.
You are desperate to refuse to believe uncomfortable facts, though.
The ADL still has a page up trashing Kirk as an antisemitic extremist. No, he was not. It is all a partisan smear.
What catches my attention is that most right-wing violence is truly out there in the wing (causes so extreme as to be marginalized -- nobody's running for office on a segregation platform anymore).
By contrast, leftist violence appears (to me anyway) to flow directly from Democratic Party demagoguery (and willful non-enforcement of basic keep-the-peace laws), and that scares me.
"Vibes travel around the world while facts are still trying to put their shoes on."
I'd settle for people reading the whole OP before replying to Somin threads.
Live updates: Charlie Kirk shooting suspect Tyler Robinson in custody; family turned him in, Utah governor says
The problem is the political rhetoric from the very top of the Left-wing has become increasingly hostile and hyperbolic. To say they are villainizing Americans with the statement below is an understatement.
“Donald Trump and the Maga Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our Republic.” - Joe Biden
“Are they a threat to democracy? Yes. Are they going to take our rights away? Yes. Are they going to put people’s lives in danger? Yes. " - Tim Walz.
For those who are interested, here's a guy auditing the quality of Mr Nowrasteh's stats :
https://xcancel.com/Recursion_Agent/status/1967059298267394218
What I suspected is true
https://humanevents.com/2025/09/17/ari-hoffman-no-political-violence-is-not-primarily-a-right-wing-problem
PJMedia looks under the hood of the "study":
https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/09/20/that-cato-study-on-political-violence-is-hot-garbage-n4943939
Seems some cherry-picking and creative categorizing went into it.