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Prosecutions Under New "Prosecuting Burning of the American Flag" Executive Order Would Violate First Amendment
And this is so even though the order targets flag desecration that could be punished under more neutral rules.
[1.] The order doesn't purport to cover all flag desecration, presumably recognizing that the Supreme Court has held that flag desecration as such can't be banned. See, e.g., Texas v. Johnson (1989); U.S. v. Eichman (1990). Rather, it covers desecration that violates "applicable, content-neutral laws, while causing harm unrelated to expression, consistent with the First Amendment." Thus, it seems to require that federal authorities, for instance, "prioritize the enforcement of … criminal and civil laws" as to "destruction of property laws" or "open burning restrictions." It might therefore cover desecration of a flag stolen from government property, or flag burning in a fire hazard zone on federal property.
[2.] This having been said, content-neutral laws banning theft of government property, or starting fires in brush fire danger zones, are constitutional precisely because they are content-neutral. But the Order expressly targets flag desecration that violates those laws because it communicates a "uniquely offensive and provocative" of "contempt, hostility, and violence against our Nation—the clearest possible expression of opposition to the political union that preserves our rights, liberty, and security." That is a content-based, indeed viewpoint-based, enforcement policy.
And such content-based selective enforcement is itself unconstitutional. Thus, for instance, the Supreme Court recognized in McCullen v. Coakley (2014) that even if a restriction on speech outside abortion clinics is facially content-neutral, if the police do not "enforce" it "equally against clinic escorts" and instead selectively target anti-abortion protesters, "such allegations might state a claim of official viewpoint discrimination."
And the Court favorably cited Hoye v. City of Oakland (9th Cir. 2011), which found unconstitutional the "selective enforcement [against anti-abortion protesters] of a similar [facially content-neutral] ordinance." In Hoye's words, because "Oakland has acknowledged having a policy of enforcing the Ordinance based on the content of speech," "[t]hat policy is unconstitutional":
Oakland's enforcement policy is a constitutionally invalid, content-based regulation of speech. By adopting that policy, Oakland has taken sides in a public debate in a manner that … the Constitution does not permit.
Or consider Judge Neomi Rao's opinion in Frederick Douglass Found. v. D.C. (D.C. Cir. 2023):
This case concerns a constitutional challenge to the selective enforcement of the District of Columbia's defacement ordinance against some viewpoints but not others.
In the summer of 2020, thousands of protesters flooded the streets of the District to proclaim "Black Lives Matter." Over several weeks, the protesters covered streets, sidewalks, and storefronts with paint and chalk. The markings were ubiquitous and in open violation of the District's defacement ordinance, yet none of the protesters were arrested. During the same summer, District police officers arrested two pro-life advocates in a smaller protest for chalking "Black Pre-Born Lives Matter" on a public sidewalk….
The organizers of the smaller protest, the Frederick Douglass Foundation and Students for Life of America…, sued…. We hold the Foundation has plausibly alleged the District discriminated on the basis of viewpoint in the selective enforcement of its defacement ordinance. We therefore reverse the dismissal of the Foundation's First Amendment claim ….
[3.] The same applies if the policy mandated by the order is used to prosecute someone for flag burning in a context that constitutes "fighting words" (i.e., in Texas v. Johnson's words, "a direct personal insult or an invitation to exchange fisticuffs" [emphasis added]). The order appears to expressly contemplate that, both by mentioning "fighting words" and by mentioning "disorderly conduct laws."
R.A.V. v. City of St. Paul (1992) held that "selective regulation" of fighting words based on their particular message is generally unconstitutional, even though punishing fighting words solely because of their tendency to promote a fight (regardless of any additional message) is constitutionally permissible. R.A.V. struck down an ordinance that facially targeted fighting words that angered people based on race, religion, and the like, but the same logic would apply to the Executive Order, which facially targets fighting words that anger people because they involve or are accompanied by flag desecration.
[4.] So if the government neutrally punishes people who damage government property, or start dangerous fires, it is free to do so. See, e.g., City of Columbus v. Meyer (Ohio Ct. App. 2003) (upholding a conviction for burning a flag under a generally applicable fire prevention ordinance); Bohmfalk v. City of San Antonio (W.D. Tex. 2010) (concluding that an arrest in such a case didn't violate the First Amendment). But when the government targets flag desecration precisely based on the content (and indeed based on the viewpoint) of the message that people are expressing. That violates the First Amendment.
[5.] Finally, the Order contemplates deporting and otherwise denying immigration benefits to aliens who desecrate the flag, "under circumstances that permit the exercise of such remedies pursuant to Federal law." Whether deportation of aliens based on their speech is constitutional is unsettled.
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Suppose I burn a government-owned American flag and Trump's DOJ comes after me. Do I get off because the prosecution is motivated by an unconstitutional policy, or do I go to prison because they would have prosecuted me anyway?
For bonus points: Do I get sentenced as a terrorist because my depredation or arson had a political motive?
Thanks for an actual analysis, EV. Too much blather about this is just bla-bla-blather.
So why is burning a Gay Pride flag a “Hate Crime”?
The Court in Wisconsin v. Mitchell held content-based determinations of the penalty for a crime are permissible even though content-based selective enforcement is generally not (*).
(*) Content-based selective enforcement is permissible when the entire reason for selective enforcement is based on why the speech is not protected (Virginia v. Black, where the Court held selective prosecuting of cross-burning as a true threat is permissible because the entire reason for choosing cross burning is it is a worse true threat).
To be precise, burning a gay pride flag isn't a hate crime. Burning a gay pride flag (or any flag) on a gay person's lawn may be a hate crime, if the person was targeted because he's gay, because it involves selecting a crime victim because of the victim's sexual orientation.
So a government cannot prioritize the prosecution of general destruction of property crimes because the perpetrators were motivated by hatred of gays?
As Eugene noted, it's not hatred of gays. It's selecting the victim because you think they are gay, which is not speech.
If only that were true in the real world. Sorry but too many times we've seen where people are prosecuted for desecrating pride flags or sidewalks or even memes.
Anecdotes from like PowerLine are not going to tell you much about the 'real world.'
It isn’t and never has been.
I’m just a Simple Country Doctor, (emphasis on “Simple”)
But explain me how setting something on fire is “Speech”.
Frank “I wasn’t setting Mayor Mandami on fire, I was “speaking”
It's "expressive", and so is freedom of gesture, freedom of semaphore flag waggling, freedom of tapping out morse code, and all sorts of expressive conduct.
The reason it's covered by freedom of speech is because freedom, period, is not guaranteed by the Bill of Rights, and even if it were, Slaughterhouse didn't incorporate them against the states, and the courts started feeling guilty about not recognizing all sorts of freedoms and now bring them back one by one, in baby steps. Thus topless dancing, but I gather not nude dancing, is protected by Freedom of
ExpressionSpeech.And flag burning for expressive purposes is protected.
Alot of Sound & Fury there
Non-obscene nude dancing is protected by the First Amendment. As SCOTUS opined in Schad v. Borough of Mount Ephraim, 452 U.S. 61, 65-66 (1981):
The Supreme Court upheld the constitutional validity of an Indiana public indecency law which prohibited all forms of public nudity in Barnes v. Glen Theatre, Inc., 501 U.S. 560 (1991). A three justice plurality opined that the challenged statute furthered a substantial government interest in protecting order and morality, which interest was unrelated to the suppression of free expression. Id., at 569-570. Justice Scalia rejected altogether the contention that nude dancing is entitled to First Amendment protection. Id., at 572-573. Justice Souter concurred in the in the judgment, agreeing with the plurality and the dissent that an interest in freely engaging in the nude dancing at issue here is subject to a degree of First Amendment protection, but based his decision not on the possible sufficiency of society's moral views to justify the limitations at issue, but on the State's substantial interest in combating the secondary effects of adult entertainment establishments because nude dancing encourages prostitution, increases sexual assaults, and attracts other criminal activity.". Id., at 581-582.
"When a fragmented Court decides a case and no single rationale explaining the result enjoys the assent of five Justices, the holding of the Court may be viewed as that position taken by those Members who concurred in the judgments on the narrowest grounds." Marks v. United States, 430 U.S. 188, 193 (1977). Application of the Marks standard to Barnes v. Glen Theatre indicates that the controlling opinion is that of Justice Souter (which reaffirmed that nude dancing is entitled to First Amendment protection). See, Triplett Grille, Inc., v. City of Akron, 40 F.3d 129, 134 (6th Cir. 1994).
It's expressive conduct subject to the O'Brien test, a form of intermediate scrutiny.
For the historical treatment of symbolic expression as tantamount to verbal expression, see my Symbolic Expression and the Original Meaning of the First Amendment.
Note also that the very first case striking down government action on constitutional freedom of expression grounds involved symbolic expression; in that case, it was displaying a flag. Likewise, the very first case striking down government action as an unconstitutional compulsion of expression involved symbolic expression alongside verbal expression. The cases were Stromberg in 1931 and Barnette in 1943.
Too simple for elementary punctuation, capitalization, and other basic English rules.
“We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated.” Donald Trump
Pardon where the verb in your sentence?
There is none, what do you think is the “gotcha” here?
Where’s the verb in this: My idea of the perfect evening: the sound of crickets in the background, the gentle breeze of sea air, a picture-perfect sunset, and a glass of good red wine at the end of a lazy summer's day.
Silly goose. The point escaped your clutches.
No verb here either: I find Stupid quite stupid indeed.
Speech doesn't mean the physical act of speaking.
It means communicating a message.
Flag burning at it's core is about communicating a message.
Is recording a speech onto some physical medium covered by the freedom of speech, or the freedom of the press? Genuinely curious.
I think speech, freedom of the press is a superset of speech.
"So if the government neutrally punishes people who damage government property, or start dangerous fires, it is free to do so. See, e.g., City of Columbus v. Meyer (Ohio Ct. App. 2003) (upholding a conviction for burning a flag under a generally applicable fire prevention ordinance); Bohmfalk v. City of San Antonio (W.D. Tex. 2010) (concluding that an arrest in such a case didn't violate the First Amendment). But when the government targets flag desecration precisely based on the content (and indeed based on the viewpoint) of the message that people are expressing. That violates the First Amendment."
Suppose the new policy would be most accurately described as, "Ceasing content based failures to prosecute people who damage government property, or start dangerous fires"?
After all, I'm not aware that the government has, as a general rule, refrained from punishing people who damage government property, or start dangerous fires. But I wouldn't be shocked if it had formerly had a policy of refraining from such prosecutions where American flags were what was being burned, in order to extend tolerance of protest further than was actually constitutionally necessary.
It’s interesting the mental gymnastics some will go through instead of just condemning this anti-liberty garbage.
The worst libertarian.
Always telling what BrettLaw does and does not protect.
Yeah, terrible libertarians are always down on people who vandalize other people's property. [/sarc]
Look, I don't much care if you want to burn your own flag on your own property, but this order doesn't have anything to do with that, now, does it?
“when the government targets flag desecration precisely based on the content (and indeed based on the viewpoint) of the message that people are expressing.”
"The order doesn't purport to cover all flag desecration, presumably recognizing that the Supreme Court has held that flag desecration as such can't be banned. See, e.g., Texas v. Johnson (1989); U.S. v. Eichman (1990). Rather, it covers desecration that violates "applicable, content-neutral laws, while causing harm unrelated to expression, consistent with the First Amendment.""
The order is quite clear that it is NOT directed against flag burning which is legal, only where it violates applicable and constitutional laws. So, while it may target flag 'desecration', more precisely, what it targets are CRIMES that happen to involve flag 'desecration'.
Thus my suggestion it that it may be more accurately be described as ending any former policy of forbearance, since expressly it only targets conduct which could have been prosecuted all along.
I can't say I'm entirely happy with the EO, given the reference to hate crimes, and the term "flag desecration" tends to raise my hackles, as I don't think flags are sacred to begin with. But given the limitation to acts that are properly crimes, I can't say it terribly offends me.
Don't break the law, and this EO will not impact you one bit.
Everyone, even you, know what this is trying to ban. You're just working very hard to deny it by blinding yourself with increasingly baroque edge cases.
It selectively targets certain crimes involving expression because of the viewpoint and content of the expression.
Politically, it's a genius move. Trump's opponents will (of course) challenge it in court - putting Democrats on record as supporting burning the flag.
Maybe they will not chase the laser pointer this time.
Yeah right
There is approximately zero chance they won't chase the laser pointer this, or any other, time. They don't think Trump is smart enough to be leading them around with a laser pointer.
Yeah, we should all support that freedom.
I don’t think the politics respond as you think, old man. But more importantly it shouldn’t matter.
Leave it to MAGAs to see everything Trump does as a petty political move to own the libs, even if that move is wildly unconstitutional.
There is nothing to "challenge in court." Anyone that the government actually tries to prosecute will be able to raise a compelling 1A defense.
Presumably with a challenge in court.
Burning (one's own) flag as a form of protest is one of the liberties that the flag itself stands for.
Do the MAGAts get as incensed about a burning cross as they do about a burning flag?
It’s actually a “Cross Lighting” and dates back to the Christian Missionaries trying to convert the Vikings by linking their Pagan traditions to Hey-Zeus
Frank
Would it violate the first amendment any more than carry permits violate the second?
What if Trump does an EO that requires a permit to burn a flag, as that particular 'speech' is like an assault rifle, more likely to result in violence?
Can the flag burners be required to get an environmental impact statement prior to causing all that global warming?
So many questions - - - - - -
Whataboutism.
Maybe SCOTUS will see the error in the original horrible decision.
No one is surprised to see you supporting using government force to enforce proper nationalistic behavior.
Great. California or the next democratic admin can start arresting everyone with a blue lives matter flag or can’t help but wear ridiculous American flag clothing.
Since you brought it up....
Way back in my childhood, before the Supremes issued their ruling that flag burning was protected speech, they used to teach us rules about respecting the flag.
One of them was that you couldn't use it as clothing. Especially not casual clothing: No flag short-shorts, no flag wife-beaters, no mixing it with an asinine slogan on a gimme cap.
Another was that you had to handle it with respect, which would definitely preclude wiping your face and mouth on it. Especially a face covered with dirty orange fake tan lotion used as makeup.
And yes, I would have been equally disgusted if my candidate (Chase Oliver) started wiping his greasy face on the flag in front of cheering Libertarians. But he didn't do that, and if he was wearing makeup it wasn't greasy; and if he had done it we wouldn't have cheered.
However, just to be clear, Trump has a First Amendment right to do it, and his supporters have the right to soil their flag shorts when sweat at their rallies.
Professor Volokh, the answer to this question is probably implicit in your original post, but I am interested in hearing the answer explicitly:
Assume that a person goes onto federal property and engages in (non-consensual) vandalism of an American flag owned by someone else, or by the federal government. Assume further that the act is of such a nature that it would already have been prosecuted without this executive order. Does this order actually make that prosecution harder for a federal prosecutor to pursue?
At the risk of answering for Prof Volokh, I can't think of why it would. You'd have to show that the government had a pattern and practice of not prosecuting similar trespassing and vandalism generally and was selectively enforcing the law only on you because of your viewpoint. This EO might demonstrate motive for the selective enforcement but you'd never there because the government does regularly prosecute trespassing and vandalism. With no evidence of selective enforcement, you never get to the motive analysis.
But if you did have evidence of selective enforcement, other cases and precedents are so clear that I don't see this EO making the presumption against the government any worse.
Which is an impossible task. With enough money and manhours you can go through the courthouse and see who was prosecuted for a statute and why, but how could you ever compile a list of people who were not prosecuted for something?
As I think about it, EV's analysis has some holes. Couldn't any vandal try to get off by saying that he was only targeted because of what he vandalized? Oh, I vandalized a church, so you hit me harder than you would have if it was a bowling alley, etc.
I suppose if you could show that the government would have let you destroy the entire federal building but only prosecuted you for burning the flag on the pole outside, maybe you could win (but see Whren v. US) but how could you show that?
Rossami, I tend to think that your view of the law is persuasive. As you explain, citing the Executive Order is neither necessary nor sufficient to make out a selective prosecution claim -- the non-enforcement part is just as important as the enforcement part.
But if that is the case, then I struggle to see how there is any teeth to Professor Volokh's conclusion that a prosecution under this Executive Order is unconstitutional. Is Professor Volokh's claim just self-referential? -- a prosecution under the EO is selective because if it weren't selective then it would be a prosecution under normal practice, and not a prosecution under the EO.
The EO says nothing about selective enforcement. It says that prosecution of certain crimes are prioritized over others. That does not mean the others will not be prosecuted. And, as you say, those other crimes ARE routinely prosecuted.
The First Amendment issue strikes me as less interesting than the unconstitutionality of trying to do by executive order what would clearly require an act of Congress. Seems conservatives only care about executive order overreach when a Democrat is in the White House. (And before anyone what abouts Joe Biden, I objected to his too.)
A Woman of No Importance: As I understand it, the Order doesn't purport to create any new crimes, but only orders federal prosecutors to maximally enforce existing laws as applied to flag desecration. Why would that (setting aside the First Amendment) require an Act of Congress?
Another immigrant who hates "the United States of America, and American freedom, identity, and strength"...
Good analysis. How does it square with Whren v. U.S. which says that as long as probable cause is present, an arrest can be made even if it is pretextual?
Whren concluded that "Subjective intentions play no role in ordinary, probable-cause Fourth Amendment analysis." But, as McCullen and the circuit cases I cite make clear, the government's intentions is relevant in First Amendment cases, and if there's sufficient evidence that people are being selectively prosecuted based on the content or viewpoint of their speech, that may constitute a First Amendment violation.
I am waiting for the inevitable executive order that prioritizes protecting white male Christians in the enforcement of Civil Rights laws.
that violates "applicable, content-neutral laws,
Yay! Laws of general applicability cavalierly trodding on fundamental rights rears its ugly head!
This time by the wrong guys though. :-/
Wearing an American Flag shirt on Cinco de Mayo will get a Texas student sent home for 'disrupting education' - in essence, provoking fights. So, display of the American flag can be situationally "fighting words" but burning it isn't?
Or easier - the Ninth Circuit was wrong when they decided Dariano v. Morgan Hill (and SCOTUS took the coward's way out when they declined to correct it).
Students have limited speech inside school as school staff have more latitude to reduce disruptions.
You'd probably get sent home for burning a flag as well.
Wearing a Mexican flag these days gets you pulled over by ICE.
Not that you care about those people's freedoms.
"Not that you care about those people's freedoms."
I don't know how you might have jumped to that conclusion. At best, you might conjecture I don't care about your opinions.
You reached way back over 10 years ago to get butthurt about; I think you've made your priorities clear.
Troll Level: Multiverse-dimensional!
So now the dems, communists and Somin will start arguing for burning the flag.
Republicans do a flag burning ban every few years, it’s not the three dimensional chess you think.
Trump Decrees Anyone Who Does Not Bow Down To The American Flag When The Music Plays Shall Be Tossed Into The Fiery Furnace
Sorry, Prof. Volokh, I think you are wrong here. First, as you recognize, this is not a law but an enforcement policy. The laws themselves are content neutral, and this pass Constitutional muster.
Second, as for the policy, one would have to show selective enforcement. On its face, the EO merely talks about prioritizing prosecution of certain crimes over others. Not failure to prosecute crimes not involving the flag. And, there is no reason to think that the same crimes committed without use of a flag would not be prosecuted. A criminal defendant would have a very hard time showing that they aren't.
The cases you cite indeed involved non-prosecution of others. The Frederick Douglas case, for example, alleged that protestors who defaced public property with different messages were never prosecuted.
How does prioritize enforcement not mandate selective enforcement? Unless prosecutors have infinite resources, one follows the other.
“On its face, the EO merely talks about prioritizing prosecution of certain crimes over others.”
Certain crimes that involve expression of certain viewpoints.