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Delaware Agency Sues Homeowners Because They Sued Allegedly Disabled Neighbors Over Nonconforming Fence
No, says a Delaware judge: "Civil rights statutes" "do not eclipse the constitutional protections of the right to petition the government."
From Tuesday's decision by Judge Kathleen Miller (Del. Super. Ct.) in Delaware Human & Civil Rts. Comm'n v. Welch: which seems correct to me:
Shortly after Elaine and James Cahill … purchased a home in the Wilmington neighborhood of Boulder Brook Development …, they erected a six-foot stockade fence around the backyard. The Development is subject to a deed restriction which prohibits the erection of any fence without prior approval of 1/3 of the residents in the Development, including the residents of each contiguous or adjacent lot. If approval is obtained, the fence must be "open face" and no more than four feet.
The Cahills did not seek approval before erecting the fence. The adjacent residents, Elmer and Wilma Yu … and Christine Welch …, objected to the fence. When the Cahills refused to remove it, the Yus and Welch filed a petition in the Court of Chancery seeking a declaration that the fence violated the deed restriction and a mandatory injunction compelling its removal.
After the action proceeded for over six months, the Cahills asserted that the fence was a reasonable accommodation for their ongoing health issues, as provided in the Delaware Fair Housing Act …. Thereafter, the Cahills moved to stay that action to allow them time to pursue a claim with the Delaware Human and Civil Rights Commission … for violation of the Act. The stay was denied.
After the Senior Magistrate issued a Final Report ruling in favor of the petitioners and ordering removal of the fence, the Commission filed this action. The Commission claims that the Court of Chancery petitioners (defendants here) violated the Fair Housing Act by continuing to pursue that action after they learned of the Cahills' need for a reasonable accommodation. {The complaint asserts that Mrs. Cahill is disabled, … [and] utilizes an emotional support animal [a Yorkshire Terrier]. The complaint alleges that despite knowing of Mrs. Cahill's disabilities and need for a reasonable accommodation [apparently referring to fencing that would keep the terrier from escaping -EV], the Chancery Petitioners engaged in discriminatory conduct by pursuing the Chancery Action, which resulted in an order mandating removal of the Fence.} The Court of Chancery action is now stayed pending resolution of this case.
The Commission, on behalf of Elaine Cahill, seeks an injunction, a finding that the fence is a reasonable accommodation which supersedes the deed restriction, and an award of damages….
The Noerr-Pennington doctrine, which flows from the First Amendment, protects parties against liability for seeking redress from the government, including the courts. The defendants exercised their right to petition the government and sought relief in the Court of Chancery. No exception to the doctrine applies, and therefore, this action is barred by the Noerr-Pennington doctrine….
The First Amendment guarantees the right "'to petition the Government for a redress of grievances' and is 'the most precious of the liberties safeguarded by the Bill of Rights.'" The Noerr-Pennington doctrine ensures that one may seek government redress without liability. The doctrine was initially pronounced in antitrust actions, Eastern Railroad Presidents Conference v. Noerr Motor Freight, Inc. and United Mine Workers v. Pennington, which found that the First Amendment allows competitors to influence government action without liability, regardless of their motives. The doctrine has since been extended to allow "'use … [of] courts" and "'extends to all departments of the Government.'" The doctrine has also been applied to areas of the law beyond antitrust, including civil rights and fair housing claims.
To balance the important right of seeking redress from the courts and protection against "'illegal and reprehensible practice[s] which may corrupt the … judicial process[es],'" the Supreme Court recognized the "sham" litigation exception to the Noerr-Pennington doctrine. Courts will apply a two-prong test to determine if the exception applies: "First, the lawsuit must be objectively baseless in the sense that no reasonable litigant could realistically expect success on the merits." Next, the litigant's subjective motivation must "conceal[ ] 'an attempt to interfere directly with business relationships of a competitor … through the use [of] the governmental process—as opposed to the outcome of the process …." …
The Chancery Petitioners sought government redress through the courts by pursuing the Chancery Action. Thus, unless an exception applies, the Noerr-Pennington doctrine protects the Chancery Petitioners from liability. The Commission does not challenge the Chancery Action as a sham litigation; nor could it. The Senior Magistrate found that the Deed Restriction is enforceable, and the violating Fence must be removed.
The Commission argues, however, that the Noerr-Pennington doctrine does not apply because the Chancery Action "did not involve the government [as a litigant] or a petition seeking governmental action," rather, it is an action between two private citizens…. [But the precedents] do not stand for the proposition that the government must be a litigant for the Noerr-Pennington doctrine to apply. The doctrine may be triggered by private citizens seeking redress from a court (i.e., the government). The Chancery Petitioners did just that in seeking relief from the Court of Chancery.
Finally, while the Commission does not argue otherwise, the Court finds that the Noerr-Pennington doctrine applies to alleged violations of the Fair Housing Act. As recognized by Chancellor McCormick, the right of citizens to petition the government for redress of grievances
is 'essential to freedom,' liberty and self-government. The right to petition allows citizens to express their ideas, hopes, and concerns to their government and their elected representatives, whereas the right to speak fosters the public exchange of ideas that is integral to deliberative democracy as well as the whole realm of ideas and human affairs.
Civil rights statutes, such as the Fair Housing Act, provide important protections. However, those rights do not eclipse the constitutional protections of the right to petition the government. The Court finds persuasive the authority from the Third Circuit, and other courts, that have applied the doctrine to civil rights claims.
Accordingly, the defendants\Chancery Petitioners' efforts to enforce the Deed Restriction are immunized under the Noerr-Pennington doctrine….
Brian Demott (McCollom D'Emilio Smith Uebler LLC) represents defendants.
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The Commission, on behalf of Elaine Cahill, seeks an injunction
Is the Commission, suing on behalf of a state court loser, bound by res judicata?
Yes, let's spend $100000 fighting over a fence for a dog bringing comfort to disturbed people. The honest judge would gave said, GTFOH.
The ADA dropped handicapped employment 50%. Hire a handicapped, hire a lawsuit.
That being said, everyone should make a list of the tort litigation offices in your town. Ask ChatGPT to analyze the compliance with accessibility of their websites. Ask for an investigation of the generated accessibility problems at Section508.gov.
Ugh. This fact pattern makes me SO ANGRY. Because I've seen this exact type of ... thing ... play out before.
First, I agree with the decision (Noerr Pennington, and the right to petition, also protects the right to seek redress of grievances through litigation absent the sham exception which is not applicable here).
Second ... maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the Cahills aren't the supreme jerks that these facts make them look like. But it looks like the Cahills bought the property. Then (and I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm guessing they're entitled jerkoffs) built a massive fence they weren't allowed to. I'm guessing it started by the neighbous telling them they couldn't do it. Then asking them. And I'm guessing (again, because I've seen this play out before) the Cahills told them to eff off. So finally someone had to send a demand letter and file a lawsuit, that the Cahills fought.
And of course .... six months into the litigation (in other words, when they knew they were going to lose because OF COURSE THEY WERE BECAUSE THEY WERE WRONG THEY JUST ASSUMED THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH IT) they "discovered" health problems and claimed a disability.
What disability? Oh, their friggin' small dog is an emotional support animal. OF COURSE. And when they lost .... they had the nerve to try to go after the neighbors?
I really try hard not to curse. But Fuck the Delaware Human & Civil Rights Commission for perpetrating this bullshit. And Fuck the Cahills.
The disability laws in this country have done a lot of good for people that desperately need it. But the abuse of them by entitled fucktards hurts all of us. It hurts us in terms of money. But not just that- the people it really hurts are the disabled- the people who depend on these laws, because every single time some privileged jerkoff abuses the laws, it makes the rest of us think that these laws aren't worth having. And it's not the case.
There is a special place in hell for people that abuse these laws, and I hope they go to it.
Agreed, the Cahills are "entitled jerkoffs".
Their actions in violation of the deed restriction are no different than if the property was subject to local zoning.
Also agree about the abuse of "emotional support animals".
"Agreed, the Cahills are 'entitled jerkoffs'."
But who entitled them?
It's not unreasonable for them to think that the emotional benefit that they get from a dog outweighs the neighbor's right to control what fence they can build on their own property.
And somebody decided that that matters.
who entitled them?
Not how entitlement works in common parlance.
It's not unreasonable for them
I disagree.
The takeaway I get from this is that if you ignore laws and norms and just rely on TiP's personal vibe of what's rational to believe, you go to some antisocial places!
"The takeaway I get from this is that if you ignore laws and norms and just rely on TiP's personal vibe of what's rational to believe,"
I don't think they're relying on my personal vibe, they don't even know me.
They are, in fact, making a legal argument, and the Delaware Human Right Commission appears to agree with them.
Please try to keep up.
Of course it's unreasonable to not be responsible adults and abide by the conditions you agreed to by virtue of your purchase of the property.
The conditions that they agreed to are limited by the civil rights statutes, which means that the agreed not to build a non-conforming fence unless they needed one as an accommodation for a disability.
And that's what they're claiming.
...and no one is buying that bullshit.
And they damn well knew of that "need" when they purchased the property. In a sane world, that would be fraud.
(terriers don't provide you emotional support, they DEMAND support from you)
No, that would not be fraud.
Claiming that they need an emotional support animal — remember that these aren't service animals — is fraud. Claiming that they need a big fence because they need an emotional support animal is fraud. But buying a house knowing one would need an accommodation is not fraud.
The above having been said, if my neighbors were that awful I might be happy if they put up a fence blocking their yard from mine.
It’s not fraud, it’s using a vague, stupid law to one’s advantage.
Don’t like it, don’t have vague, stupid laws.
The law is not actually that vague or stupid. The problem isn't the law, but people faking "disabilities" to justify their antisocial behavior. That's not really different from people faking disabilities to claim insurance payouts or paid early retirement, but in those cases we all agree the people faking the disabilities are the problem. Not sure why you think it's different here.
What makes you think they’re faking? Maybe they’re depressed and the dog cheers them up. Is a dog that cheers up a depressed person a reasonable accommodation under the ADA?
Heck, being fat because you can’t control your appetite is a disability nowadays.
And the kids who get extra help on tests? I’ve seen some of the people on this thread who are complaining about emotional support dogs analogize kids using calculators on math tests to wearing glasses.
"What makes you think they’re faking?"
As Loki pointed out earlier, because they apparently didn't know anything about their disability until it was apparent they were going to lose the fight about their fence.
Curious: If you think the ADA is dumb, what do you think about religious accommodations under Title VII?
But it’s not their property in this respect. The deed restrictions mean they don’t have complete rights to it, and some rights to the property, including this, belong to others.
But it wasn't even required for their disability, even assuming the emotional support dog applies. They didn't even attempt to get approval first, and it's fully possible to build an "open face" fence that will still keep small dogs in. You can put up smaller rails or chicken wire along the bottom area so the dog can't just slip through. They were using their claim of disability to just say "we get to do whatever we want," which is the problem.
Ah, but you missed the part of the doctor's note which said that in his medical opinion, they needed a high solid fence to stop home invasions and to prevent predators from eating their dog.
One of the inner circles, for sure.
These stories also illustrate the ethics of doctors.
As if the plastic surgery stories weren't enough.
loki : But Fuck the Delaware Human & Civil Rights Commission for perpetrating this bullshit. And Fuck the Cahills.
The disability laws in this country have done a lot of good for people that desperately need it. But the abuse of them by entitled fucktards hurts all of us.
Is he being naive ? Or just pretendin' ? My money is on the latter.
As Prof Maslow explained, if you were foolish enough to create the Delaware Unicorn Eradication Commission, you can be sure that it would find a plague of unicorns in Delaware.
It is in the nature of bureaucracy that no agency, commission or office can ever run out of things within its remit.
And likewise it is in the nature of humans that if you give them a legal right to be protected from the ill effects of flying pigs, there will be a plague of flying pigs. At least in the courts.
No, I'm not being "naive." And since I am already cursing, fuck you for coming in with your preconceptions and trying to be oppositional.
If you know someone with a serious disability, you would understand that the LAWS (what I was talking about) like the ADA (and the changes to the FHA, etc.) have made massive improvements in their lives- and their ability to function in society as regular people.
That's not the problem. Sure, I am happy to have a reasonable discussion about particular use-cases (costs and benefits). But overall, it has resulted in a sea-change in the lives of many of the most disadvantaged members of our society.
The biggest problem (other than people like you) is that people that abuse these laws. Which fall into two camps, roughly-
1. Attorneys and serial plaintiffs (aka, testers) whose only interest is extracting money from businesses, and not in improving access.
2. People without disabilities who abuse these laws (often with assistance of unethical physicians, or just by printing off stuff from the internet). This is everything from the small-scale (people without disabilities who get handicapped parking permits because they want access to better parking) to the serially annoying (people who abuse the service animal allowance because they are trying to pull a fast one, or just want Fido to go everywhere with them) to the WTF (that Disney scam from a while back when privileged fucktards would "hire" someone who was disabled for their trips so that they wouldn't have to wait in lines).
It's part of the culture of corruption that we are seeing that is venerated by people like you- that don't look at the people that abuse the laws, but instead say, "Hey, everything is a grift, so the problem isn't the grifters, amirite?"
Yeah, I'm going to hate on these people. Because of them, people think that these laws (which again, did a lot of good) are a scam. But they aren't. The best laws in the world don't help us if everyone is an unethical little shit, and the rest of society is just asking "What's in it for me."
You forgot to mention the accommodations their kids supposedly 'need' based on their fake disabilities for exams.
That too. Honestly, there's so many examples. Grift and corruption and lack of integrity.
I guess we did get the President we deserve.
I don't really think you're being naive. I think it's more in the nature of cognitive dissonance.
It is not necessary for the majority to be composed of grifters for there to be a need for policing of freebies, extra rights and goodies of all kinds aka griftable items. You just need a few to screw up your shiny well-meaning griftable scheme.
But as soon as you have policing, you risk some of the deserving folk missing out on the griftable, or being embarrassed by questions designed to discover if they're grifters. In the end it ends up with outanout fascism as terrible as voter ID regimes.
So one half of your mind is determined that griftables must be made available to the needy. And the other half of your mind baulks at making it difficult to grift the griftable, even at the risk of denying or embarrasing the needy.
Your solution is to eschew your lifelong commitment to avoiding curse words. Which I totally believe in.
Or, how about this- how about perfectly able people STOP PRETENDING TO BE DISABLED?
Maybe that's the problem? Because in most contexts, we don't think, "The problem with the law is that people are going to lie about it because people are a bunch of entitled jerkoff who will commit fraud." Perhaps we need to make sure, as a society, we start to stigmatize these jerkoffs. Corruption is bad. Any law can be taken advantage of if people lie, commit fraud, and behave unethically- but maybe the problem is the people lying, committing fraud, and behaving unethically? Maybe instead of tut-tutting, "Oh, laws, that's the problem," you can actually take a second and say, "You know what, pretending to be disabled... that's really shitty behavior. We need to do something about that." Just a thought.
Now, if you want to talk about specific proposals to change the laws, I'm all ears. I even have a few - for example, I think the ADA should be amended to require a notice and cure period - that would allow actual problems to be corrected in good-faith by owners of public accommodations that are trying to do the right thing, while avoiding plaintiff's attorneys who are just extorting money. See? That would be a productive change.
But you know what else would help? People like you actually seeing that all the laws (or lack thereof) won't make a difference if we continue to excuse bad behavior and corruption.
“Or, how about this- how about perfectly able people STOP PRETENDING TO BE DISABLED?”
Sure, and men can stop pretending to be women while we’re at it.
I think your first three paragraphs confirm my diagnosis - in spades.
Even Sarcastro can manage a half-assed admission that laws have to be enforced. But you can't manage even that. All you've got is hand wringing.
The problem in this case is that the neighbors whose behavior you disapprove of don't face a downside. It's obvious that they do not fear stigmatization. There are plenty of people like that - a minority to be sure - but enough. These folk don't even have to cough up their own legal fees, because the Delaware Commission for Justifying Our Own Sinecure is picking up the tab and running the ridiculous argument for them. Are their attorneys facing sanctions ? Of course not - they're not representing the Orange One.
If bad behavior earns you no adverse consequences, beyond a sniff from the neighbors whose chains you are happy to yank all day, then 15% of the population will happily continue behaving badly.
You asked for legislative proposals.
1. Nix this dumb law that overrides the deed restriction. If they don't like the deed, or even if it inconveniences folk with actual disabilities, there are thousands of properties that don't have deed restrictions. And likewise for other dumb laws of the same nature.
2. Nix psychological disabilities privileges in toto. Harsh because some people do actually have such things. But you can't effectively police psychological disabilities. It's way too subjective - and you can pay your "expert" to say what you want anyway. Leave such disability privileges to things that are objectively demonstrable. This gets to the heart of your cognitive dissonance thing - effective policing requires leaving open the distinct possibility of hard cases. If you can't face hard cases, you're against enforcement. And hence your scheme to help the unfortunate will also be helping the unscrupulous. And if you help the unscrupulous you will be getting a LOT of unscrupulosity.
I'm not against social stigma. It doesn't work on everybody, but it works on some people. Indeed the absence of social stigma will lead regular folk to assume that this or that behavior is acceptable. Humans are not sheep but we are closely related.
Yeah, you pretty much nailed it.
It's obvious that they do not fear stigmatization.
Maybe we just don't do stigmatization as effectively as previous generations.
Hence… POTUS.
It's a lot of the liberalization of social norms. Things that used to be stigmatized (sex outside of marriage, having kids outside of marriage, drug use, etc) went away. In other respects, "stigmatization" was overused, but only by a minority, not an overwhelming majority.
I don't see what you're pushing back on.
You just seem grumpy while also agreeing with loki.
Do you think anyone is calling grifting good? Or saying laws against fraud shouldn't be enforced?
'griftables' is *everything.* Including posts on the Internet.
Are you saying that laws and policies are bad unless no one can abuse them?
Or that public opprobrium is never going to work?
“You just seem grumpy while also agreeing with loki.”
How does he seem grumpy? And Loki doesn’t? You sure have a strange way of seeing things.
Well, back to sealioning again I see.
I see you shitposted to loki above, too.
Lol. Shitposting is your turf, eh?
I had a lecture a week or so back from Sarcastro and LawTalking Guy about "empathy." But it turns out that Sarcastro is absolutely woeful at reading minds.
Bob recently mentioned that he was tired of what he described, accurately, as loki's "last reasonable man standing" shtick. But it doesn't annoy me, it amuses me. So long as you're not his mark yourself, watching a bunco man do his act is fun.
If you know someone with a serious disability, you would understand that the LAWS (what I was talking about) like the ADA (and the changes to the FHA, etc.) have made massive improvements in their lives- and their ability to function in society as regular people.
Yes, and 100% correct.
To me, this dispute goes back to the written contract. Contract says, "No more than 4 feet", and you build a fence 6 feet, you're toast. I marvel that this case ever got this far.
That view, to me, is a bit oversimplistic.
If the HOA agreement (contract) says "all houses must have front steps" and a person wants to build a wheelchair ramp instead of steps, because they're wheelchair-bound and can't navigate steps ... IMHO the ADA should trump the HOA contract.
The problem here is the lawyers who did not say NO. Sanctioning them good and hard would go a long way to stopping this kind of nonsense.
I agree on the ADA abuse, but the fact is, these deed restrictions and local restrictions shouldn't be allowed in the first place. A man's home is his castle. At least it was before we started letting women, who have an insatiable need to control the behavior of others, have a say.
Restore traditional voting restrictions, meaning white men with property, and watch America flourish.
It's likely these deed restrictions were put in place at the time the property was developed when the land was owned by a single entity (not the current homeowners) and that every initial and subsequent buyer agreed to them. That's a series of completely voluntary contracts.
It's not as if the fence restriction was a government imposed zoning law that wasn't agreed to by every homeowner affected.
You are free (as I would) to decline to buy a home that has deed restrictions of this sort. However some people want the uniformity and security of communities that have this and similar deed restrictions as they are insurance against one home on the block driving down property values and otherwise resulting in a decline in the quality of life for others around them.
I'd have sympathy for them if they had reached out and explained beforehand, even if the neighbors said no and they went ahead anyway. But they didn't so any reason, even if valid, is going to look more like an abuse as an excuse to do what they wanted.
The problem is that when we live on top of each other my castle-y activities intrude on your enjoyment of your castle. That's why cities have these rules. Some people don't like them. Go live in the country where you can do pretty much what you damn well please.
I look forward to the couple who fraudulently purchased a home knowing they would violate the deed restrictions, demonstrating a Yorky can clear a four foot fence.
Even funnier, the doctor's note stipulated a six foot fence.
Bet you a nickel that notion (and most of the rest of the "doctor's note" for that matter) didn't just spontaneously pop into the doc's head. The language choices and overall flow of the note reeks of attorney input/drafting.
"doctor's note stipulated a six foot fence"
What class in medical school trains you in fences and dog jump heights I wonder?
The Yu family is probably sick of this by now but a complaint to the medical licensing board about the doctor might be appropriate.
Yeah, for that size dog, the open-face requirement is a lot closer to a genuine concern than the height restriction. Seems like a classic example of a lawyer hurling in every silly argument they can think of regardless of how unserious/uncredible it makes them look and thus tends to undermine any halfway decent arguments they might have had.
For a Yorkie, yet.
If it had been a Jack Russell terrier, you might have actually needed a 6 foot fence to keep it contained. I used to own one, and their vertical jump is insane.
But for a Yorkie? That's the sort of dog that needs help getting onto the sofa!
Haha!
So laws about wheelchair ramps have morphed into laws requiring everything from rich kids getting extra time on tests to the right to build a giant fence around your house?
Welcome to the medicalization of everyday life. Doctors and lawyers laughing all the way to the bank.
I understand people who don't want deed restrictions.
I don't have any respect for people who think they are personally exempt from the stupid rules that made the neighborhood so attractive when they were shopping for a house.
I completely agree with you. Personally, I would never, ever, ever purchase a property in a COA or HOA (condo or homeowner's association). If that's something that appeal to you, great. But not me.
I value property rights. But property rights ... you buy all the rights. Which can include restrictions- deed restrictions, easements, and so on. Learn what your property rights are- and AREN'T. Do it before buying.
Also? It helps to try and get along with your neighbors. Don't effin' build a giant monstrous fence that you aren't allowed to before even talking to them, and over their objections. Good fences make good neigbors, and entitled jagoffs who build unlawful monstrous fences make the worst neighbors.
I’m wondering if the defendants here should file a motion for sanctions for filing a frivolous lawsuit. The applicability of the Noerr-Peningron doctrine was obvious here. Not to mention res judicata - they needed to have brought this claim up in the underlying litigation. (They might have and had it rejected as baseless by the Chancellor.)
The motion could also claim on information and belief, and introduce facts tending to suggest, that the claim of disability was totally lacking in factual basis, as it only came up after the Chancery litigation was lost or too late to raise it there. I would check if they ever even claimed their pet was an “emotional support” dog to anyone, or ever claimed they had a disibility that the dog supposedly accommodated to anyone, let alone obtained any medical or other documented expert basis for making such a claim, before they lost the Chancery Court litigation.
Given how angry this fact pattern is making some folks, perhaps somebody will be in a position to offer to give these folks legal services on a contingency basis to fight back.
Seriously, the whole idea of "emotional support animals" being a thing that actually gets treated as legitimate medical need is insane to begin with.
You can't imagine needing one so you can't imagine anyone does.
It sounds wonky to me as well, but I realize there are people different than me so I'll reserve judgement and not go on narrowmindedness and vibes.
Oh, I can imagine needing an emotional support animal, or a teddy bear, or security blanket. I WAS a three year old, once.
What I can't imagine is genuinely needing that sort of emotional prop and having the gall to demand that other people pretend that I was a mentally competent adult.
Used to be living in abject misery was just how some people had to be. We have changed our view on that.
But the big thing if you can't imagine how someone else is living, or thinking, or whatever, that doesn't mean it's not real!
That's like a central part of your failure. And your politics.
Used to be that adults were expected to suck it up and be adults.
I didn't say that it's not possible for somebody who's chronologically an adult to genuinely need that crap. I'm saying that anybody who genuinely needs that crap has no claim to be treated as a competent adult.
...and receiving competent psychiatric care.
Wow, I want everyone to lose in this argument. The neighbors are jerks for trying to impose on the property rights of the Cahills. If they want to build a fence on their own property, that's nobody else's business. On the other hand, 1) the idea of an "emotional support animal" is just stupid - it's a pet. Yes, pets are great but that's not a disability accommodation. 2) There are multiple other ways to contain your dog in your own yard than a 6' solid fence. Finally, the DHCRC needs to go up in flames for pursing a patently fivolous legal action.
But when the Cahills bought the house, they agreed not to erect a fence over four feet high. They voluntarily declined, contracted away, the right to do it. It’s in the property deed they agreed to accept.
Are you saying people shouldn’t have the right to make enforcible contracts?
Maybe the neighbors should have let this one go. I’m definitely not saying they were saints here. But the law was on their side.
Just pointing this out since it's in the facts.
The neighbors didn't start by filing a lawsuit. They objected to building the fence. In other words, they told the Cahills that they couldn't do it before any of this turned to litigation. The Cahills then chose to go ahead anyway.
Next, there is a massive difference between a stockade fence and an open-face fence. This wasn't just about the height (which was itself a problem) but about the type of fence. If you've been to neighborhoods that are all open-face fences, and all that are giant stockade fences, you immediate grasp how different those neighborhoods are.
Finally, there were multiple restrictions in place when they bought the property.
1- They had to get the approval of 1/3 of the neighbors to build ANY FENCE AT ALL. They didn't ask anyone.
2. If they got approval, they were limited to fence that was less than four feet in height, and had to be open-faced. The Cahills chose to build (without approval) a fence that was 6' tall and was a stockade fence- which would have been a violation even if they had gotten approval (which they hadn't).
Again, I love property rights. And if you do too, don't buy property with restrictions. If you love a property because all your neighbors are abiding by restrictions and have cute little picket fences, then guess what? You don't get to move in and start screaming MAH PROPERTY RIGHTS! Y'ALL PROP UP MAH PROPERTY VALUES BUT IMA DO WHAT I WANT NO MATTER WHAT I AGREED TO! MAH LITTLE YORKIE MEANS I CAN DO WHAT I WANT!!!!
Did you read the opinion? The doctor just kept throwing more and more shit at the wall (er, fence) to find something that would stick. They also needed the fence to defend themselves against home invasion. And coyotes, or wildebeests, or something.
Ugh. In a past life, I am sure that the Doctor was the primary prescriber in a pill mill.
"So, are you in pain? A headache? Maybe you were in pain once? Maybe you're afraid that you might be in pain in the future? Maybe the thought of being in pain at some point might be painful? No? Well, clearly the utter absence of pain ... causes you pain. Have some meds!"
I don't see any principled reason why deed restrictions should be permitted as they relate to fences, but not race restrictions. If a group of white people want to build a community where non-whites are not allowed, why is that anyone else's business?
Of course you don't.
I'm saying that most such clauses are entered into coercively and not on the basis of fair negotiations between partners of equal power. Thus, such clauses should be viewed skeptically and more often found to be void as against the common good.
Either way, however, I was making a normative statement about the moral position of the parties, not opining on the legal obligation (except on the part of the DHCRC which should be sued into non-existence).
There was no clause entered into with negotiations at all. This is a deed restriction. Generally speaking, deed restrictions are crafted by the developer at the time the land is first divided and sold. (The opinion says that this one has been in effect since the 1940s.) Their choice was to buy the property, which necessarily included the restriction, or live somewhere else.
Yes, which means the consent to the restriction was not meaningful and that deed restriction is at best suspect and probably should be void.
Your argument was they didn’t know they had these restrictions when they bought the land. Great. Except that’s not what they arguing.
No; it means your comment is nonsensical. It's like talking about their "consent" to the property boundaries with their neighbors. It's not a question of "consent" because that wasn't something that could be negotiated in the first place.
"consent to the restriction was not meaningful and that deed restriction is at best suspect and probably should be void"
Not how property rights work.
A recorded restriction provides constructive knowledge but if they got any title work, they had actual knowledge.
The consent was the purchase itself.
To Jazzizhep, David and Bob - You all are confusing statements of what the law is (in which you each are correct) with normative statements of what the moral rule should be (in which I believe you are quite wrong).
More specifically, you are conflating deed restrictions with laws. Deed restrictions do not have the controls, checks or balances to ensure that they are balanced, fair or still fit to purpose. Many laws fail at balance, fairness or fit to purpose also but they at least have some checks and balances to make that more likely. Deed restrictions have none, making them morally (though not necessarily legally) lesser than laws. Deed restrictions are nevertheless allowed because the user "consents" to them at the point of buying the property. They are allowed under a theory of contract, not law. I dispute the validity of the consent necessary for the contract to be valid. First, it is rarely informed and generally not meaningful. Second, there is no remaining opposing party to the contract - that is, no one to negotiate against. That makes contract theory a poor fit for justifying deed restrictions. The result is that they are treated like laws but without the things that make laws acceptable. That result is, to me, unacceptable.
Do you think easements aren't valid either? When you buy some property that has your neighbor's driveway running through it, should you be allowed to put up a fence because the easement is coercive and you can't negotiate it at the time of purchase?
If you do think easements are okay: how are these kinds of restrictions different in principle? If you don't think they're okay: what's your alternative plan since the current version of property law is rife with them and they serve a lot of seemingly useful functions.
And your comment is still bizarre. It's like saying that you didn't have the ability to negotiate whether the Tesla you bought was going to have a gas or electric engine, and therefore it's not fair because you didn't meaningfully consent. It's just a category error on your part to talk about it in that way.
"I dispute the validity of the consent necessary for the contract to be valid. First, it is rarely informed and generally not meaningful."
Ummm... It's a contract. And supported by contract law. And not a little one, typically it's a large purchase. If you're not reading the contract.... it's an odd objection to make. Does this apply to other provisions of the contract? "Oh, I wasn't informed I had to PAY you for the land...it's not meaningful". No....
"Second, there is no remaining opposing party to the contract - that is, no one to negotiate against."
Generally speaking...not true. If you want the deed restriction removed, you need to go to the original person who put it in the contract. If I contract the sale of my house to you, but put the restriction on it that "you can't change the color of the front of the house" then, that's a deed restriction. You agreed to buy the house, with that restriction. If you want the restriction removed, you need to come back to me and say "Can I remove this?" And I'll agree...or won't.
Now, a special case is if the original party to the contract no longer exists. There is a whole bunch of legal law there. But that's true of all other contracts as well. If you contract to buy the house from me for $100,000 to be paid out over 10 years...then I die in year 1, that doesn't mean you can ignore the rest of the contract.
No, that's not the right way to think of deed restrictions at all. Yes, someone could sell you a property on the condition that it only be used for a specific purpose, and put that in the deed, but that's not generally what the term refers to and isn't what we're talking about here. We're talking about something the developer puts in all the deeds in a particular development. You can't go to the developer to renegotiate, not because the developer's dead (though probably yes in this case, given that this was put there in 1945), but because the restriction exists for the benefit of all the other property owners in the neighborhood. It's them you'd have to negotiate with, not the original developer.
"No, that's not the right way to think of deed restrictions at all"
No, that's ABSOLUTELY the right way to think about deed restrictions. Because that is ACTUALLY how it works.
If the original developer is around, and they haven't bestowed the rights for the deed restrictions onto whatever HOA they've established to take over the development (or any other party).... Then you absolutely could go back to the original developer. The contract of sale, with the appropriate provisions, is between you and and the developer. Not the HOA. If the HOA isn't mentioned in any of the contracting provisions, they can't say jack about it.
It is "only" if the developer has bestowed the deed restrictions on the local HOA that what you say is true. Or any other party the original developer gave those deed restrictions to.
Go back to basics. Always critical.
No. You really are misunderstanding the situation. We are not talking about anything in a "contract of sale." And we are not talking about a HOA. Creating a HOA is one way, of course, to enforce rules of this sort. But that's not this situation; we're talking about a restrictive covenant in a deed, a covenant that runs with the land. And a restrictive covenant in a deed does not require the existence of a HOA. There isn't one here; that's why the neighbors had to sue these fence-building jackasses directly, instead of a HOA taking enforcement action.
So you are aligned that they were forced to buy the property?
For it to be a deed restriction, it either needs to be entered into voluntarily (in writing) by the property owner or the property owner bought the property subject to a deed restriction entered into voluntarily by a previous owner. And in that case, you knew of its existence before you bought the property, because it was recorded against the title of the property before your purchase. That’s what recording is for - putting people on constructive notice of transfers and encumbrances.
How is it coercive? When they were buying the property, they saw (or should have seen) this restriction on their deed. Nobody held a gun to their head and forced them to buy this particular property.
They were free to buy another piece of property that contained no such restriction. But there is a tradeoff. Maybe at that other property there was nothing to prevent their redneck neighbors from parking junk cars at their house.
The bottom line is that it is not 1845 anymore where we can just claim our own 160 acres and do what we want with it. We live on top of each other and have rules that restrict what we can do with our own property for the benefit of everyone. And again, they knew all of this going in and chose to buy anyways.
That's just wrong as a matter of morality and law. They never had the property right to build this fence; that wasn't what they purchased.
A sincere question from a non-lawyer:
Ordinary laws and regulations don't bind future generations for eternity, they can vote to repeal them about as easily as we voted to enact them. Likewise with HOA regulations.
But how do future generations get out of deed restrictions?
When I lived in neighborhood that had an HOA, the HOA had a limited lifetime. In our case, it was 30 years, which was due to expire in 1 year after we closed on our house. The HOA email group we got added to asked "Ought we renew the HOA? For how long?" The vote was 99%--"No!"
I don't think HOAs are generally created with perpetual timelines. I'm no lawyer, but maybe they cannot be. But regardless, HOAs can be dissolved with sufficient support.
You attend the HOA meetings, learn who the Karens are, learn who doesn't like the Karens, then run for a seat on the board. Then you wait a couple years and wind up President of the board. Then you change the deed restrictions.
Takes a little patience, and a copy of Robert's Rules, but it does work.
Thanks to both of you, and what you say probably applies to the case in the post.
But I was trying to distinguish HOA regulations from straight-up deed restrictions not tied to a HOA, for example something put in by the original developer. The deed restriction has no provision for any particular body of people to vote it down.
Surely there is some time limit in the law? IA(very much)NAL but does something about perpetuities apply here?
The rule against perpetuities applies to future interests, which are something else. An analogy here might be jurisdictions where leases are limited to 99 years, but in my neck of the woods there is no inherent time limit on the operation of servitudes or covenants.
"Surely there is some time limit in the law?"
Many states have a Marketable Title Act which can act to extinguish old interests. Its operation is insanely complicated, with plenty of exceptions. Its impossible to briefly summarize and be accurate.
Home ownership associations are usually authorized by statute. In Ohio, for instance, its Revised Code Chapter 5312 - Ohio Planned Community Law. That law permits amendments to the recorded declaration and by laws that the owners can use to modify or eliminate restrictions and rules.
Not my area of law, but in that case the original conveyor who imposed the restriction has the interest in that condition. For example, if A sells to X so long as no alcohol is sold on the property, then X and his successors are bound by the no alcohol provision.
A has a reversion interest and his heirs would take if the condition is violated. X's successors should negotiate with A's successors to remove that condition.
ETA: And this does not violate X's "rights." When X got the property he did not get a full fee simple title. He received it subject to the alcohol condition. That's all he ever bargained for.
Wait until you learn about conservation easements!
On a related topic, around here property owners have an option to declare their land a wildlife conservation area, in which case they get taxed at the value for hunting and recreational value rather than the value for potential development. For land near the city it can be a 10 to 1 difference.
You can get out of it by paying five years of back taxes at the full rate.
Yep - essentially a property tax scam (my cynical view); potentially perpetual in at least my state.
Is there a minimum property size?
It's complicated, got started doing it on my father's farm after he died but it was hard enough that we went with the ag exemption instead and now "rent" the land to a farmer for $0/year.
If you aren't changing the property size it's grandfathered and there's technically no limit, but you have to have a wildlife management plan that convinces the authorities. If you divide a piece of land then limits kick in that vary but are typically a few tens of acres.
“the idea of an "emotional support animal" is just stupid - it's a pet.”
All pets are emotional support animals.
When you have vague laws that require accommodations for disabilities, and leave wide open the definition of both, what do you think is going to happen?
Sometimes there's a misconception that civil lawsuits are disputes between good guys and bad buys. In reality, a large fraction, perhaps a majority of lawsuits, involve two (or more) sets of jerks. I concede that one of the jerks may have the law, which is an ass, on their side.
1. Fence Builders: The emotional support dog stuff is hokey, you should have read the deed more carefully, you should have backed down when the deed restriction was pointed out to you, and most of all you should not have brought down the woke police on your neighbors. You're wrong, and you're jerks.
2. Fence Opposers: Our tax money maintains courts so you can pursue utterly Karenish (albeit legally correct) complaints against your neighbors? If you can't tolerate the difference between a 6 foot and 4 foot fence on someone else's land then you are too delicate to live among free people. Do you imagine in 3-felonies-a-day-America we couldn't catch *you* violating some rule? You are technically right, but also no less jerks than your neighbors.
3. DHCRC: A lawsuit for filing a lawsuit? The legal profession gets too big a bite already, without allowing each suit to spawn metasuits. But more importantly you're a prime example of the overreaching state, and your actions violated the constitution. You abused your authority, which needs to be cut back.
(All the judges involved did the right thing, though.)
About 1.
They read the deed carefully enough.
About 2:
A four foot open face fence blocks much less view and breeze than a six foot stockade fence.
And part of living free is being able to enforce a contract willingly entered.
About 3.
I must agree. No one needs a Delaware Human and Civil Rights Commission. Don't cut it back, eliminate it.
On (2), I conceded that they are on the correct side of the law, and the court was correct to uphold their right to have the fence taken down.
In a similar vein, I concede that:
- People have a right to dress up in Nazi uniforms and march down the street chanting anti-semitic slogans.
- Men have a right to feign emotional attachment to lure women, and then abandon them, solely because they like to see women crying.
- People have a right to call the cops on kids running a lemonade stand if a permit is required.
- And finally, I have a right to pronounce all of them jerks.
Yes. The lesson people should learn as kids "Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should."
Just like not all counterproductive laws and policies are unconstitutional.
Is there a point at which you would concede that they wouldn't be jerks for enforcing the deed restriction? If it had been a 10 ft fence instead of a 6 ft fence, would the neighbors still be jerks? I think it matters whether you are objecting to the deed restriction at all or if it's just this instance of it being put into practice?
I 100% disagree with you.
Look, the Chaills bought into this development, buying this property, with these restrictions. I assume that they liked the location (you know- LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION). Part of why people buy property in a development with these types of restrictions is because ... yep, they look at all of their neighbors, with their baeutiful lawns, and their white picket fences (a white picket fence is an open-face under 4', natch), and how beautiful and "kept-up" everything is, and think to themselves...
"Self, it looks like this will be a good place to live. I bet the property values will be great, because look at how well people maintain their properties! Look at our neighbors!"
Well, the reason it looks like that? Because of the restrictions - so you can't buy your property, with those restrictions, and then scream about YOUR PROPERTY RIGHTS after you bought in.
You want complete freedom? It's real simple- do what I do. Do not buy a property in a COA, an HOA, or in a development subject to these types of restrictions.
Because if you do, and you want to inflict your personal preferences on everyone else and start screaming about property rights, then guess what? They aren't the assholes. You are.
You made a choice. Live with it. Property rights are awesome, but don't buy a property knowing it has restricted rights and then start screaming about how unfair those restrictions are. Buy somewhere else.
loki13, those first four paragraphs are basically an unfounded accusation of hypocrisy, of trying to benefit from something they then undermine. We can't know why the buyers wanted that particular house. In fact, it could be they bought the house *despite* the sterile, boring, regimented uniformity, and would have gladly paid $20K *more* if the neighborhood were less collectivist and stifling. That was my attitude when house hunting....
Do not buy a property in a COA, an HOA, or in a development subject to these types of restrictions.
Well yes, that's the best option and that's what you and I did.
I'm also very sympathetic to the "you made a choice, live with it" argument, it's the essence of free trade and contracts.
But people die. How does that argument apply when someone inherits a house, or to other situations where the person in possession never made a choice?
For example, in the absence of civil rights law, would we insist that the half-black great-great-granddaughter of a Klansman must honor the No Negroes clause her ancestor wrote into the deed in 1876, and forfeit the property? Regardless of the law, would you claim she still has a *moral* duty to respect that clause in a contract no living person ever signed or would have signed?
There's just something wrong with the long dead binding people forever. I would suggest there be a law that the restriction itself applies fully and for life to anyone who directly signed onto it themselves. However, if X number of years have passed, the seller is not required to impose it on the next buyer. The seller can create a fresh deed with or without the restriction.
"But people die. How does that argument apply when someone inherits a house, or to other situations where the person in possession never made a choice?"
By definition a person cannot take a greater interest in a piece of property than the person who conveyed it. If grandma did not have a right to build a 6 foot fence on the property then that right didn't spring into existence for me just because she died.
The neighbors, who had the right to keep the 6 foot fence away, passed on that right to their kids.
By definition a person cannot take a greater interest in a piece of property than the person who conveyed it.
I'm sure you are correct as a matter of current law.
It's possible to change the law. Somehow all those racial deed restrictions disappeared.
Agreed. There seems to be a disconnect. People are implying that since it is "their" property then they should be able to build a 100 foot fence on it.
Well, that's simply not what they bought. They didn't buy a full fee simple title with no restrictions. They bought a property where due diligence would have shown that they did not have the right to build a high fence on that property. They got everything they bargained for.
But they want more than that. They want the convenience and quiet of living in a nice neighborhood, secure in the knowledge that the neighbors have to follow all of these rules to not inconvenience them, but they want the freedom to act like they are sodbusters living on the prairie.
...secure in the knowledge that the neighbors have to follow all of these rules....
What's your evidence? You don't actually know that the Cahills think the fence restriction is a benefit, much less that they want it to apply to their neighbors but not themselves. Absence of fences isn't some universally acknowledged good, lots of people like and build fences, and there are even neighborhoods where every single house has a solid 6 footer around the backyard....almost like it was a deed restriction.
Suppose I turned it around: "Those complainers got a free privacy fence on one side of their property, which they greatly benefit from, and now they have the nerve to go complain! What hypocrites".
None of which means the fence builders were in the right. There was an agreement and it was no fence, and they signed on. But I think your assumption that everyone benefits from a regimented housing code is false.
If fact, since we've broken out the projector I might as do some projecting of my own: I believe a lot of the desire for uniformity codes has to do with timid buyers lacking confidence in their own tastes. They perhaps really want an interesting, unique house in an eclectic neighborhood but it scares them.....am I making a good investment? A uniform house is a commodity: they figure everyone on this block of 100 identical houses can't be making a mistake and if they are we'll all be in it together and I won't look like an idiot.
All we know is what everyone signed on to. Maybe they put that provision in the deeds as a lark.
However it is clear from the covenants that the buyers in that area viewed fences with disdain. How do we know? They put it in the deeds.
The neighbors have a contractual right to enforce these covenants. They, or grandma, paid for that privilege when they bought the property.
the buyers....put it in the deeds
Well, I'd say sellers, or rather one seller long ago, put it in the deeds. The buyers merely agreed to it, and we have no clue whether those buyers disdained fences, versus reluctantly signed away their fences.
But I just want to re-iterate that I fully agree with you: The buyers did sign away their rights, giving jerks and Karens a contractual right to enforce these covenants.
Duck,
As Long pointed out; the difference between a 4-foot fence and a 6-foot fence is HUGE. At my mom's house, the neighbors' on her sides have 4-foot fences and the neighbor to her rear has a 6 foot (well, 5.5 foot) fence. It's like night-and-day.
Visually, it's the difference between being able to see over the fence and not being able to see anything...which means everything. No one wants to stare at a wall. It means you have no view. It means your view is completely gone. From a nice view of trees and mountains to essentially nothing. Just that ugly wall.
I wouldn't minimize the effect of it. Just those extra 2 non-conforming feet make a world of difference (which is why the 4-foot limit is in the restriction!!!)
Of course sometimes a 6-foot fence blocks a nice view. Could be mountain, could a neighbor sunbathing. Which is why they call a six-footer solid fence a privacy fence.
Keep in mind that I've already fully agreed the anti-fencers are legally in the right, so we're just discussing my evaluation of them as jerks. I could modify that based on facts specific to the case.
If the whole charm of their property was the mountain view, maybe I'd be more sympathetic. Certainly if A had a separate contract in which he paid B specifically not to block his view of the mountain, and then B went and did it, A would be completely off the jerk list and I'd move all the opprobrium to the other side.
But consider that this was a generic restriction that could be modified by a vote of 1/3 of the neighbors. Is the mountain view no longer beautiful and inspiring because 1/3 of your neighbors declared it so?
It boggles my feeble mind how this agency allocated scarce resources to such a loser of a case. What were they thinking, or smoking?
Even if we assume the dog is necessary, why is the fence? Can't they train the dog to stay in the yard, use an invisible fence, or take the dog out on a leash when it needs to run outside?
Many dog owners don't have the luxury of a fenced in yard. Why would this disability require the fence?
A better strategy would have been to go closer to the truth with their made-up disability.
They should have claimed the disability is severe social anxiety and/or agoraphobia, and the necessary accomodation is more privacy and more enclosure. Therefore, they need a solid six foot fence that prevents others from looking in, and prevents themselves from seeing the terrifyingly stark and barren mountain peaks.
They probably really did just want more privacy, in particular from the neighbors trying to nail them on code violations.
Two sample contracts between neighbors:
"My grandchildren, not yet born, will harvest your grandchildren's fields in return for 15% of the crop and new work dungarees each season."
"My grandchildren, not yet born, will humbly beg permission of your grandchildren if they wish to build a fence higher than an axe handle, or to rebuild their house, or change any large shrubberies. Their repayment will be the inestimable benefit of being subject to your descendant's rule."
I suppose y'all think both contracts are valid. Of course we have a 13th Amendment, so in the first contract the grandkids wouldn't have to work. They'd just have to pay the full cost of harvesting the fields, tripled for punitive damages, plus court costs, and minus 15% of the crop value and $30 for the dungarees.
These are not personal contracts. They are covenants that run with the land. The represent a reservation in the original grantor of rights to the land that the grantees never receive.
To the extent that you buy property subject to these reservations, you have no property interest to pass onto your children that somehow clawback the reservations from the person who lawfully controls them. Your purchase of the property never considered that nor was compensation provided for it.
This isn't pledging your grandchildren to perform services. This is owning only a partial bundle of the sticks that make up the property and thus being all you own of that property, will be all you can ever convey or devise to your heirs.
That is a very clear and elegant explanation, thank you. (Really.)
If I understand you correctly, the property interest we could call "fence building authority" belongs to someone else, not me, since the seller himself had no such rights to give me.
But then, in the absence of a HOA or some other group formally named in the deed, who does hold the fence building authority? Somebody must own it.
Unless the claim is that once some seller forbids a particular use in a deed, that property interest disappears and no longer exists at all?
If that's so, then over the course of millenia, every piece of land can only accumulate restrictions never to be undone. Eventually some eccentric seller/buyer pair agree to a restriction that the land may neither be used nor left empty, and the universe implodes in some kind of real estate paradox....
“can only accumulate restrictions”
Well, no, there are various methods to extinguish or retire these kinds of easements. The most obvious example would be the combination of a dominant and servient parcel— though that might not be applicable in this particular HOA situation.
I used to have a house in a fenceless sub with a HMA. You could have a fence for a dog, but it had to be temporary. I went and bought two 25 foot rolls from the local farm supply shop and some long stakes and would roll it all back up once a week for mowing. Took about 5 minutes once I got the system down.
Before that, for a year, we had a stake with a thin cable and would clip the dogs on to let them do their business. Son drove the riding mower over it, so I tipped it on its side to unwind the cable, which was a bad thing for the 4 cycle engine, pulled out the spark plug and other stuff and drained the oil from where it wasn't supposed to be, managed to get it started and let it burn itself clean.
Went and got the fencing! Good times!