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Restricting Open Carry of Guns Constitutional if Concealed Carry Allowed
From Friday's decision by Judge William Smith (D.R.I.) in O'Neil v. Neronha:
[W]hile Bruen held that the Second Amendment's plain text protects "carrying handguns publicly for self-defense," it did not go so far as to declare that the text requires open carry. See Baird v. Bonta, 709 F. Supp. 3d 1091, 1125 (E.D. Cal. 2023).
But the Court need not dive too deeply into this question because, even assuming the text covers open carry, Defendants' application of the Firearms Act to regulate Plaintiffs' manner of public carry is within the Nation's historical tradition of regulation…. [In Bruen], the Supreme Court concluded that "[t]he historical evidence from antebellum America does demonstrate that the manner of public carry was subject to reasonable regulation." And it drew that conclusion, in part, from its finding that historically, "States could lawfully eliminate one kind of public carry—concealed carry—so long as they left open the option to carry openly." The Firearms Act, through its permitting structure, does just this, albeit in reverse: it regulates Plaintiffs' manner of public carry in that it limits their right to open carry but leaves unaffected their right to concealed carry.
Plaintiffs make much of the fact that the Act's permitting structure reverses common historical regulations allowing open carry and limiting concealed carry. But the Second Amendment is not "a law trapped in amber." U.S. v. Rahimi (2024). Per the Supreme Court's direction in Rahimi, "[a] court must ascertain whether the new law is 'relevantly similar' to laws that our tradition is understood to permit, 'apply[ing] faithfully the balance struck by the founding generation to modern circumstances.'" In doing so, the Court concludes that Defendants' application of the Act's permitting structure to Plaintiffs is relevantly similar to historical regulations, and thus consistent with the Second Amendment.
{The Court's decision rests on the binding precedent set by the Supreme Court in Bruen and Rahimi. Thus, the Court need not undertake its own review of historical laws regulating the public carry of firearms.}
For more on this sort of analysis, which focuses on the magnitude of the burden on the constitutional right, see my Implementing the Right to Keep and Bear Arms After Bruen (NYU L. Rev. 2023), pp. 1956-61 (though that article doesn't discuss the question whether a restriction on open carry is indeed a sufficiently mild burden):
Bruen Leaves Room for Upholding Restrictions that Only Modestly Burden the Right to Bear Arms
Bruen did not foreground the burden threshold for right-to-bear-arms violations the way it stressed the scope inquiry. But the Court did suggest that some arms restrictions would indeed be constitutional on the grounds that they impose only modest burdens. This is particularly clear in footnote nine of the majority's opinion, which upheld licensing requirements for carrying guns:
Because [forty-three states' "shall-issue"] licensing regimes do not require applicants to show an atypical need for armed self-defense, they do not necessarily prevent "law-abiding, responsible citizens" from exercising their Second Amendment right to public carry. Rather, it appears that these shall-issue regimes, which often require applicants to undergo a background check or pass a firearms safety course, are designed to ensure only that those bearing arms in the jurisdiction are, in fact, "law-abiding, responsible citizens." And they likewise appear to contain only "narrow, objective, and definite standards" guiding licensing officials …. That said, because any permitting scheme can be put toward abusive ends, we do not rule out constitutional challenges to shall-issue regimes where, for example, lengthy wait times in processing license applications or exorbitant fees deny ordinary citizens their right to public carry.
Of course, licensing requirements do interfere in some measure with the right to carry guns: They impose at least some "wait times" and some "fees." Nor did the Court suggest that longstanding tradition or history supported such licensing requirements.
Rather, the Court apparently reasoned that a modest burden, which does not "prevent" the exercise of the right, would be constitutional, at least so long as it serves the traditionally recognized government interest in "ensur [ing] … that those bearing arms … are … 'law-abiding, responsible citizens."' Modest, "[non-]exorbitant fees" would be constitutional, as would "[non-]lengthy wait times."
And this inquiry into the magnitude of the burden is reflected in the Court's more general discussion. The Court stressed that restrictions on public carrying significantly burden the right to keep and bear arms for self-defense: "After all, the Second Amendment guarantees an 'individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation,' and confrontation can surely take place outside the home." Self-defense has to take place where the "self" happens to be; because of this, restrictions on carrying outside the home concretely burden the right, and that concrete burden (coupled with the right's historical scope) helps explain why the right to bear arms extends outside the home.
Yet the Court distinguished some historically recognized gun controls on the grounds that "[n]one of these restrictions imposed a substantial burden on public carry analogous to the burden created by New York's restrictive licensing regime." "[T]he burden these surety statutes may have had on the right to public carry was likely too insignificant to shed light on New York's proper-cause standard." Indeed, the burden inquiry might be part of the historical scope of Second Amendment protection: American right-to-bear-arms law has reasoned that not all regulations amount to unconstitutional prohibitions for over 150 years, with only a few departures.
{See, e.g., Owen v. State, 31 Ala. 387, 388 (1858) ("That section was not designed to destroy the right, guarantied by the constitution to every citizen, 'to bear arms in defense of himself and the State'; nor to require them to be so borne, as to render them useless for the purpose of defense. It is a mere regulation of the manner in which certain weapons are to be borne …."); Aymette v. State, 21 Tenn. 154, 159 (1840) ("[A]lthough this right must be inviolably preserved, yet it does not follow that the Legislature is prohibited altogether from passing laws regulating the manner in which these arms may be employed.").
For one such departure, see Bliss v. Commonwealth, 2 Litt. 90, 91-92 (Ky. 1822), which struck down a ban on concealed carry even though open carry was allowed, reasoning that "whatever restrains the full and complete exercise of [the right to bear arms], though not an entire destruction of it, is forbidden by the explicit language of the constitution."}
In considering the magnitude of the burden, Bruen builds on the analysis in Heller, where the Court struck down the handgun ban in part because of how burdensome it was: "Nothing about [Framingera] fire-safety laws"—the laws that the dissent points to as evidence that the right to bear arms should be read as allowing handgun bans—"undermines our analysis; they do not remotely burden the right of self-defense as much as an absolute ban on handguns. Nor, correspondingly, does our analysis suggest the invalidity of laws regulating the storage of firearms to prevent accidents." Likewise, in distinguishing the handgun ban from colonial laws that imposed minor fines for unauthorized discharge of weapons, the Heller Court pointed out that the colonial laws "provide no support for the severe restriction in the present case."
Earlier in the Heller opinion, the Court similarly justified striking down the handgun ban on the grounds that the ban was a "severe restriction." In the process, the Court favorably quoted an old case distinguishing permissible "regulati[on]" from impermissible "destruction of the right" and from impermissible laws that make guns "wholly useless for the purpose of defence." And the Court's explanation of why the handgun ban is unconstitutional even if long guns are allowed is likewise consistent with an inquiry into how substantially a law burdens the right to bear arms:
It is no answer to say … that it is permissible to ban the possession of handguns so long as the possession of other firearms (i.e., long guns) is allowed. It is enough to note, as we have observed, that the American people have considered the handgun to be the quintessential self-defense weapon. There are many reasons that a citizen may prefer a handgun for home defense: It is easier to store in a location that is readily accessible in an emergency; it cannot easily be redirected or wrestled away by an attacker; it is easier to use for those without the upper-body strength to lift and aim a long gun; it can be pointed at a burglar with one hand while the other hand dials the police. Whatever the reason, handguns are the most popular weapon chosen by Americans for self-defense in the home, and a complete prohibition of their use is invalid.
The Court is pointing out that handguns are popular for a reason: They are often the optimal self-defense tool, so bans on handguns make self-defense materially more difficult. The handgun ban, then, materially burdens the right to bear arms in self-defense. Such burden thresholds are common for other constitutional rights, such as the right to marry, the right to expressive association, the right to abortion (back when that right was recognized), the right to religious exemptions, the right to strong protection against even content-neutral speech restrictions, and more.
In Bruen, the Court also said that the Second Amendment inquiry must focus on (1) "whether modern and historical regulations impose a comparable [and comparably justified] burden on the right of armed self-defense," and on (2) "how and why the regulations burden a law-abiding citizen's right to armed self-defense." This too suggests that the magnitude of the burden matters.
But not just the magnitude of the burden matters, it appears—the reason for the burden also matters, which may end up reincorporating some sort of heightened scrutiny means-ends analysis into Second Amendment law, once the burden is found to be modest enough. Footnote nine, after all, stressed that the shall-issue laws burden the right for good reason: to support enforcement of constitutionally valid restrictions on gun ownership.
The Court had earlier concluded, based on its understanding of the Second Amendment's historical scope, that the right was limited to "law-abiding, responsible citizens." The "background check[s]" required by "these shall-issue regimes" support that limitation by making sure that the owners are indeed law-abiding and responsible in that sense. And the "firearms safety course[s]" promote the limitation by training licensees to be "responsible" in the sense of being able to use concealed weapons safely, should the need arise; indeed, such courses also often teach people how to be "law-abiding," for instance, by discussing the often complicated rules related to when lethal self-defense is permitted. These restrictions thus impose burdens that are both modest and justified by the scope of the right secured by the Second Amendment.
By way of comparison, fees that are higher than needed to administer the permitting system may be unconstitutional either (1) because they are "exorbitant" as an absolute matter or (2) because they are not "designed to ensure only that those bearing arms in the jurisdiction are, in fact, 'law-abiding, responsible citizens,"' but might instead be designed simply to raise money or deter gun ownership. Likewise, they would not be "comparably justified" to fees that are tailored just to the administration of the system.
Of course, people will disagree about which burdens should normatively count as substantial—just as they have disagreed about which burdens on abortion rights count as substantial, or about how ample the alternative channels left open by content-neutral time, place, or manner speech restrictions must be. Indeed, some courts have tried to minimize the burden imposed by very substantial restrictions: For instance, the Fifth Circuit upheld a ban on 18-to-20-year-olds acquiring guns from licensed dealers in part on the grounds that this was "an age qualification with temporary effect. Any 18-to-20-year-old subject to the ban will soon grow up and out of its reach." Yet whatever one might say of a waiting period of a few days, a waiting period of nearly three years, even if literally "temporary," is surely a serious burden.
It may also be hard to empirically determine just how burdensome a particular restriction might be. And of course restrictions that impose small burdens, when viewed individually, could end up amounting to a large burden. The Court's skepticism of even modest content-based speech restrictions may stem from this concern. But the Court nonetheless does consider the substantiality of a burden in many cases, by focusing, for instance, on whether a content-neutral restriction "leaves open ample alternative channels" for communication; the same might be feasible for gun controls, where courts can ask whether the restriction leaves open ample alternative means for effective armed self-defense. And more broadly, Bruen and its toleration of some regulations, such as shall-issue licensing requirements, suggest that some inquiry into the magnitude of a given burden is indeed part of the Second Amendment test.
Here are some more details on the Rhode Island regulatory scheme:
To obtain a handgun permit, the [Rhode Island Firearms] Act establishes "[t]wo separate and distinct licensing procedures." The first, set out in § 11-47-11, "is mandatory—an applicant who meets the criteria set forth in § 11-47-11 is entitled to a gun permit." Local officials issue these permits and are limited to issuing only concealed carry permits ("restricted permits").
The second procedure, detailed in § 11-47-18, "provides for the discretionary grant of a firearms license by the [AG] 'upon a proper showing of need.'" These discretionary permits authorize both open and concealed carry ("unrestricted permits"). Under Rhode Island law, permits of this nature are a privilege and there is no constitutionally protected liberty interest in obtaining one.
Neither § 11-47-18 nor any other section of the Act defines the term "proper showing of need," but the AG has issued policy guidance with a non-exclusive list of factors that he considers. But the AG retains "discretion to refuse a license even if a person makes 'a proper showing of need.'" Although this discretion is broad, it is not unlimited; the AG "must adhere to minimum procedural requirements when rejecting an application." "A rejected applicant is entitled to know the evidence upon which the [AG] based [his] decision and the rationale for the denial." The AG's decision is also subject to judicial review for legal error.
Plaintiffs in this case are seven residents and citizens of Rhode Island. Each possesses a restricted permit. And each previously possessed an additional unrestricted permit. But in 2021, the AG denied all their renewal applications for these unrestricted permits, finding that they did not need them because they already had restricted permits. Plaintiffs appealed their application denials and, following a hearing, the AG again denied their renewal applications….
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Although I don't think the result is completely out of bounds, the court doesn't justify its conclusion. This bit:
"[W]hile Bruen held that the Second Amendment's plain text protects "carrying handguns publicly for self-defense," it did not go so far as to declare that the text requires open carry. See Baird v. Bonta, 709 F. Supp. 3d 1091, 1125 (E.D. Cal. 2023)."
Is completely silly. One might as well argue that Obergefell didn't say that gays could marry within city limits or during day time therefore laws restricting them to certain times and areas are constitutional.
Also, why are we looking at antebellum laws? Shouldn't we be looking at founding era laws which would make a difference? Isn't it time that the Court decides that instead of punting on it twice?
Again, we will see more and more of "law trapped in amber" from Rahimi to justify more and more gun control laws.
wvattorney13, Bruen explained why we look to antebellum laws. SCOTUS even gave it a name, "liquidation."
If one were to look at founding era laws, and we should, then one would discover that the use of a concealed weapon to kill someone was punished by death, without the possibility of a pardon or a lesser punishment (called "the benefit of clergy"). The same was not true if the weapon was openly carried, or if the concealed weapon had been displayed to one's opponent and he was given the opportunity to either cease his attack, or to similarly arm himself.
The unsettled question left open by Heller and Bruen was whether or not handguns that are easily and ordinarily carried concealed are arms protected by the Second Amendment. SCOTUS said in Bruen that they are.
What SCOTUS did not do in Bruen was to overrule the right to Open Carry clearly stated in Heller. Nor did the judge provide a pinpoint citation to where in Bruen the Open Carry right from Heller was overruled.
If Bruen had overruled the Open Carry right from Heller, then why did Justice Alito respond to the dissent in Bruen by saying:
"If we put together the dissent in this case and Justice BREYER's Heller dissent, States and local governments would essentially be free to ban the possession of all handguns, and it is unclear whether its approach would impose any significant restrictions on laws regulating long guns. The dissent would extend a very large measure of deference to legislation implicating Second Amendment rights, but it does not claim that such deference is appropriate when any other constitutional right is at issue."
Judge gibberish to disarm victims. The lawyer wants only the client, the criminal to be armed. Dispatching a criminal will get you arrested.
If you kill a repeat violent offender, you should get a cash reward of $10000. It is a small tip. You have saved your nation $200 million in future damage.
District of Columbia v. Heller said that Open Carry is the right protected by the Constitution and said that prohibitions on concealed carry do not violate the Second Amendment.
The judge conceded the Plaintiffs' citation to NYSRPA v. Bruen, which said, "States could lawfully eliminate one kind of public carry – concealed carry..." is the opposite of what Rhode Island does today, but, in his moronic opinion, he concluded the opposite is true (Open Carry can be banned in favor of concealed carry).
Apparently, the judge skipped Logic 101 in college.
Also, only cowardly, depraved degenerates carry concealed weapons.
So not wishing to cause undue alarm is degenerate?
Currentsitguy - Failing to give fair notice to those around you that you are armed, so they may govern themselves accordingly and take necessary steps toward self-preservation, is an act of moral turpitude.
It always has been.
If whiny girly men (mostly Democrats) and women are "alarmed," that's on them.
I feel alarmed when I see a guy in a suit and tie, carrying a briefcase. I get alarmed when I see a guy in black priest robes with a wooden hammer, out to destroy our country. They need to be restricted.
In academic historical practice, it is axiomatic that the text of a law is no more than a point of beginning for a historical query. An antique legal text arrives in the present devoid of all the contemporaneous context which inflected its creation.
At the outset, the historian has no way to know whether the law in question was intended to be enforced at all, or was perhaps passed in a spirit of political exhortation—a practice surprisingly commonplace long ago, and still today. Or, more subtly, the intent could have been—and often was in colonial America—to present a law severe on its face, with expectation for lax enforcement in practice.
Does the legal text reflect expectation that the law would be enforced uniformly in an egalitarian society, or selectively in a class-bound society? Is there any likelihood, given differing class characteristics in widely-separated locations, one rule of construal would capture historical practice everywhere? The opposite is the more likely historical bet.
In such varied historical cases, how to answer a question which practices represent history and tradition? Would it be enforcement practiced in only a small fraction of a jurisdiction, but conforming closely to a legal text, or an alternative practiced everywhere else without regard for the text, or in actual defiance of it?
Even if the intent encompassed an ambition for uniform enforcement, a question whether any law could be uniformly enforced in the political jurisdiction in question needs investigation. Some founding era jurisdictions were more notional than otherwise, with an actual legal expectation that given a lack of even a qualified magistrate in the district, enforcement of only the most serious charges would occur.
In such instances a visiting magistrate might be brought to the jurisdiction to hear the case. Otherwise, there was often expectation that a thinly-spread population could get by with a good legal leaving alone.
Questions of those kinds must get consideration, before any conclusion that a legal text fairly represents the history and tradition of some bygone time and place. In America's colonial era, some courts held non-Christian Indians to more lenient standards than they used for white Christians, whom a court might presume to be more justly constrained by moral strictures.
The historical record—construed broadly to encompass actual activity, is full of surprises. Those who made laws in such times and places were of course better cognizant of their realities then than we are today. That cognizance forms an indispensable part of the history and tradition to be reckoned with.
Thus, legal texts alone rarely if ever adequately capture the essence of the expectations which inspired their enactment, let alone the activities in response which became the actual American historical traditions. Bruen's methodological prescriptions amount to demands not for uniformity or constraint of the judicial process, but instead for historical malpractice in service of a present-minded agenda.
The one thing I would say is that RI still requires a permit to carry (even if it *is* shall-issue). Being able to open-carry with no government paperwork is *not* the same thing as carrying concealed without.
The only rights leftists care about are the pelvic rights they invent.
One obvious implication is that you can only conceal on your person a weapon up to a certain size. So I can't bring my shoulder-launched surface-to-air missile to the beer store, I have to leave it in the truck.
Surprised that there's not more yelling and hair pulling about this...
If I'm reading the OP right, this is about carrying handguns - no permit is needed for rifles/shotguns/missiles.
So a Buntline Special might be problematic, or the quasi-rifle AR or bolt action pistols, but not long guns.
Absaroka - Open carry of loaded long guns along public roadways is prohibited by law in Rhode Island.