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"The Clear Winner in Trump v. CASA: The Supreme Court"
"Lower courts lost, and the executive branch got mixed results."
Jack Goldsmith (Executive Functions) is always worth reading, and his article today on the universal injunctions especially so; an excerpt:
Supreme Court "Supremacy" Vis-a-Vis the Executive Branch
Charlie Savage maintained that Trump v. CASA "diminish[ed] judicial authority as a potential counterweight to exercises of presidential power." Ruth Marcus made a similar claim in a piece entitled "The Supreme Court Sides With Trump Against the Judiciary."
These propositions are true only of the lower federal courts. Trump v. CASA did not diminish the Supreme Court's authority vis-a-vis the presidency. The Court held at least that lower courts lacked authority to issue universal injunctions. The Court was ambiguous about whether it could issue universal relief via injunctions. But it made clear in ways that it never has before that it expects executive branch compliance with its opinions and judgments on a universal basis.
Begin with the last sentence of the opinion. At oral argument, Sauer "concede[d] that the 30-day ramp-up period that the executive order itself calls for never started" and that "there should be a 30-day ramp-up period" for the administration to provide guidance. The Court in the last sentence stated: "Consistent with the Solicitor General's representation, §2 of the Executive Order"—which implements the birthright citizenship ban—"shall not take effect until 30 days after the date of this opinion." That sure sounds like a universal injunction! The Court never explains how Sauer's concession got translated into a judicial command, presumably under the All Writs Act. The command is especially unusual since it is directed at a presidential order.
If this were a lower-court injunction and it were closer to January 20, the Trump administration might skirt the injunction by replacing (or amending) the executive order to allow a shorter ramp-up period. Or it might argue that the injunction applied only to the parties to the interim order application. But Sauer's reputation and the Trump administration's credibility before the Court are on the line. I expect the Trump administration to comply with this 30-day universal injunction. And if it doesn't I expect a quick intervention by the Court.
But there was a much greater concession by Sauer at oral argument with much greater significance for relations between the Court and the executive branch. As I explained last month, Sauer pledged to five different Justices that the government would, as Sauer put it to Justice Barrett, "respect the opinions and the judgments of the Supreme Court." When she asked whether he was "hedging at all with respect to the precedent of this Court," Sauer said he was not. Sauer similarly told Justice Kagan that a Supreme Court decision on a matter "would be a nationwide precedent that the government would respect." And he made analogous statements to other Justices….
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Barrett criticized Jackson dissent pretty heavily. I suspect the other 5 justices are pretty tired of the 3 liberals on the court, otherwise, one of the other 5 would have encouraged Barrett to tone it down.
How do you know this final version isn't the toned-down version?
It may be the toned down version, though I cant image what the untoned version would be like.
I think Kagan and Sotomayor not joining her opinion was their own message to Jackson to tone it down.
Sure, man.
Keep speculating to align with what you want to be true. You'll be Blackman's mini-mi before you know it!
Typically meaningless snark
Reading tea leaves is half the fun of watching the Supreme Court.
So his speculation is unjustified, even though he gives reasons, which you notable refuse to answer. Meanwhile, your unsupported speculation about him is justified.
Typical Sarcastr0.
What reasons?
Colleagues in the same voting bloc on the Court don't join one anothers' opinions all the time. Until this point, it was never taken as having any significance.
You've spent enough time here to know this. Are you just so angry it makes you not think?
I mean they are disgusting, nasty women.
But can future Solicitors General change their mind? After all, if the Supreme Court can override its own precedent, turnabout is only fair.
In the next 30 days?
But in any case the Solicitor General was representing the government, not himself.
it did feel like a universal injunction, you're right. the kind of order that will no longer be available to any lower court. I'm not sure how the Court itself squares that with its own High Court of Chancery-inspired reading of the equity powers available to Article III courts (including itself) under the Judiciary Act of 1789. they really ought to have at least addressed the apparent contradiction.
also, has the government agreed to abide by the precedent of opinions of lower courts within their own circuit? if the 9th circuit rules against the government in holding birthright citizenship is the law of the land, has the government pledged to at least respect that decision within the 9th circuit itself? at least if it's not going to appeal?
If I recall correctly, I think the SG said that DOJ would respect the opinions of circuit courts within their jurisdiction in the usual case.
You do recall correctly. At oral argument he did indeed say that. But just to make it explicit, it was by no means a "pledge," as tnrbg asked. It was merely a statement about what they usually do.
I don't see any contradiction in the 1789 Judiciary Act referring to the powers of the English courts.
After all, the Revolution was started in large part in order to reassert the liberties of Americans which included the judicial rights that Englishmen had access to.
Fortunately Donald Trump never runs roughshod over the clear and unambiguous statements of his cabinet members and other senior officials in the policy areas that he has entrusted to them...
So?
They serve at his pleasure. He has every right to run roughshod over them.
Was it an injunction or just a prediction?
Probably the former, but it's a little ambiguous given the absence of any effort to reconcile it with the rest of the opinion.
They said "shall".
My impression is, in legal language that's a clear command or expression of obligation. More so than "will", which sounds more like prediction.
IANAL, but some quick googling seems to suggest that's right. Though I also see discussion of moves toward a more explicit "must" to reduce ambiguity.
The supreme court just awarded themselves a huge victory! HOORAY for them!!!
This was bound to happen. (Eliminating nationwide injunctions).
The SCOTUS was bound to be annoyed by random district courts judges essentially taking on the self-appointed authority to declare nation-wide decisions on policy. It basically infringed on the SCOTUS's prerogative. Moreover, every time it happened, the SCOTUS was going to need to step in eventually and be the "daddy". Once in a great while...maybe. Every week? No.
We didn't need nationwide injunctions for the first 175 years of the country, and we don't need them now. They simply acted as a means for an unelected single person (any one of over 600) to make their policy choices on a nationwide basis known.
If it's just "policy choices" then it's improper whether it's a universal injunction or a solo injunction.
Let's not kid ourselves here David. These judges, both conservative and liberal, have known policy preferences. And they are known to interpret the law in such a way that agrees with their policy preferences. Some do less of it. Some do more of it. But it happens on both sides. That's why judge shopping occurred. People knew it, knew which judges has preferences in which direction, and where they were more likely to get a decision in their favor.
That being said, people are people, and you're going to have some degree of preference. That's why one of the reasons we get judicial panels...multiple judges, which can even out extremes from an individual. And why you get an appeals process on an individual basis. And on an individual basis, these extremes could be moderated in scope, by only affecting the party before the judge
But what we had going on was a system of 600-plus minidictators, making national policy off their individual decisions with universal injunctions. And it wasn't going to stand, not as it was accelerating.
Really? You don’t think that any of the Roe or Obergefell majority felt that gay marriage or abortion rights was bad policy, but they were compelled vote the way they did because they felt abortion rights and gay were part of the liberty guaranteed by the due process clause?
Judge shopping only requires that a judge have a known approach to a given legal question.
It will occur when people think they can predict a judge is likely to agree with them.
That would happen even if zero judges were *ever* swayed by their own policy preferences. It
As DMN said, you beg the question and then still get it wrong.
"Read the rest here"
That link doesn't work. The anchor tag for the link has another anchor tag inside its href property. The url should be https://executivefunctions.substack.com/p/the-clear-winner-in-trump-v-casa
The age of the Democrat/Somin imperial judiciary ends! SO MUCH WINNING!
Why can't Congress simply pass a law saying that all newborns are outside U.S. jurisdiction like diplomat children? Or all children under a month old?
Also, why doesn't the GOP offer to legalize Dreamers in exchange for Democrats voting for an amendment ending birthright citizenship? What argument in favor of birthright citizenship would be more compelling than legalizing the Dreamers?
Apparently the GOP doesn't find it compelling at all.
One can only speculate as to why. No bigotry involved, I'm sure.
And what does one have to do with the other?
There's no way that Democrats would vote in favor of such of a amendment.
...not unless they are convinced that current and future migrants would vote Republican.
If that ever happens, they'd become immigration control hawks so fast it would make Trump blush.
Current and future migrants don't vote, dumbshit.
If the Trump EO holds up, there is no need for Congress to pass a law or an amendment.
Except that the next Democrat president would reverse it. They love birthright citizenship, because for every brown baby dropped out of a brown mother's crotch on U.S. soil, there is a Democrat voter in 18 years.
Sauer pledged to five different Justices that the government would, as Sauer put it to Justice Barrett, “respect the opinions and the judgments of the Supreme Court.”
And that verbal promise is, as they say, worth the paper it is printed on. If I read Goldsmith correctly, this was one end of the bargain to rule for Trump in exchange for a promise to "respect" (but not necessarily obey) future decisions.
It is very hard to imagine any adult at this point actually believing that Trump will adhere to this promise from his future ex-attorney.
It was not a promise or a pledge. Sauer was merely reciting long-standing DoJ policy.
And that verbal promise is, as they say, worth the paper it is printed on.
Yes, but it's worse than that.
Why is it any kind of concession at all, and why is it limited to the Supreme Court.
Isn't it expected that the government will abide by court orders? Or has MAGA so infected people's brains that they think Trump promising to obey the law is some sort of magnanimous gesture?
Why is Goldsmith, or EV, impressed by Sauer's statement?
Trump's unparalleled record as a lawless President continues to expand. Thus far, the Supreme Court of the United States has not dealt Trump even one outright defeat. The Court behaves as if it fears, and expects, defiance. There is no reason to suppose this Court intends ever to do better.
You contradict yourself. A lawless President would be one violating Supreme Court. Apparently Trump has gotten the law correct, according to the Court.