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The First Amendment and the Trump Administration's Anti-DEI Executive Orders
Nat'l Ass'n of Diversity Officers in Higher Ed. v. Trump, decided Thursday by Judge Adam Abelson (D. Md.), reaffirms an injunction against the Administration's DEI Executive Orders that the judge had issued (and that was stayed on appeal). The plaintiffs argue that "[new] factual developments merit vacating the injunction and permitting Plaintiffs to file an amended complaint and a renewed motion for a preliminary injunction," and the court said no. But in the process the court discussed the substantive question, and I thought I'd pass that along:
This Court remains of the view that Plaintiffs have shown a strong likelihood of success on the merits of their facial free speech and vagueness claims …. The Challenged Provisions forbid government contractors and grantees from engaging in "equity-related" work and from "promoting DEI" in ways the administration may consider to violate antidiscrimination laws; they demand that the "private sector" "end … DEI" and threaten "strategic enforcement" to effectuate the "end[ing]" of "DEI"; and they threaten contractors and grantees with enforcement actions with the explicit purpose of "deter[ring]" such "programs or principles."
This Court remains deeply troubled that the Challenged Provisions, which constitute content-based, viewpoint-discriminatory restrictions on speech (in addition to conduct), have the inherent and ineluctable effect of silencing speech that has long been, and remains, protected by the First Amendment. And they do so through impermissibly vague directives that exacerbate the speech-chilling aspects of the Challenged Provisions.
Historically, the metaphor used to describe the effect of laws that restrict speech is "chill." The more apt metaphor here is "extinguish." Part of the explicit purpose and effect of the Challenged Provisions is to stifle debate—to silence selected viewpoints, selected discourse—on matters of public concern. They forbid government contractors and grantees from engaging in discourse—including speech such as teaching, conferences, writing, speaking, etc.—if that discourse is "related" to "equity." And they direct the "private sector" to "end" diversity, to "end" equity, and to "end" inclusion. "End" is not a mere "chill." "Deter[rence]" is not a side-effect of the Challenged Provisions; their explicit goal is to "deter" not only "programs" but "principles"—i.e. ideas, concepts, values. After all, the opposite of inclusion is exclusion; the opposite of equity is inequity; and, at least in some forms, the opposite of diversity is segregation.
The government has apparently concluded, and takes the position, that particular employment practices, for example related to hiring or promotion, constitute discrimination in ways that violate Title VI or Title VII. But the Challenged Provisions do far, far more than announce a change in enforcement priorities within the bounds of existing law. For as vague as the Challenged Provisions are about some matters, there can be no serious question that the direct and necessary impact of those provisions—and purposeful, to the extent that matters—is to extinguish discourse throughout civil society on what makes our society diverse, the different perspectives we each bring to bear based our respective upbringing, family history, community, economic circumstances, race, national origin, gender, ability, sexual orientation, or the like. These executive directives seek to extinguish discourse about our shared history. They seek to extinguish discourse about how to strive toward greater inclusivity, or even what that means, or whether that is a worthy goal.
The fact that the Challenged Provisions also target conduct, in addition to speech (and ideas), does not diminish the Challenged Provisions' unmistakable edict that persons working for government contractors or grantees, or any person working in the private sector for that matter, must not express certain viewpoints on a swath of topics related to inclusion, equity and diversity. And they do all of that on their face. While a "government official can share her views freely and criticize particular beliefs," and seek to "persuade" others (even "forcefully") of the merits of a particular view, officials may not "use the power of the State to punish or suppress disfavored expression." NRA v. Vullo (2024)….
Other courts have agreed. For example, in Chicago Women in Trades v. Trump (N.D. Ill. 2025), the court held that the Certification Provision undisputedly "attempts to regulate grantees' speech outside of their federally-funded programs," and further restricts speech on the basis of content and viewpoint, for example prohibiting "programmatic activity [that] 'promote[s] DEI' (whatever that is deemed to mean)."
In the education context, the U.S. District Court for the District of New Hampshire explained in detail why prohibiting "DEI," requiring certification, and threatening enforcement actions for violations combine to threaten "the 'supremely precious' yet 'delicate and vulnerable' nature of the right to free speech in our country," Nat'l Educ. Ass'n v. U. S. Dep't of Educ. (D.N.H. 2025), particularly given that they "sweep in a wide swath of conduct while leaving individual enforcement decisions to the subjective determinations of enforcement authorities." … And as Judge Gallagher explained in a similar case in this district, although the government is "entitled to its own views, including on how court cases and laws should be interpreted," and to "develop and pursue its own enforcement priorities within the law," it may not "blur the lines between viewpoint and law" in ways that prohibit (or could be reasonably perceived to prohibit) "conduct, speech, perspectives, lessons, programs, activities or meetings" on the basis of content or viewpoint. Am. Fed'n of Teachers v. Dep't of Educ. (D. Md. 2025)….
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DEI or more technically the ideology it grows out of is functionally a religion/cult. With DEI being their version of penance for their version of original sin. The government has no business funding this religious ritual with the taxpayer money of people who don't believe in it. Its followers can do it on their own time on their own dime.
Yes, and it is a cult that is contrary to USA civil rights laws.
MAGAns yelling “cult” is some serious pot-kettle stuff.
Your comments should include the sound of a ricochet to enhance your deflection.
No shit. And just as they're getting ready to celebrate indoctrinating public school kids in Catholicism with taxpayer $.
If that is what the parent wants for their child wrt education, why is that a problem? The money should follow the child, not the teachers union.
Oh really? So it would be fine to have a taxpayer-funded Federal Church of America as long as people weren't required to attend?
You guys are so stupid you don't even know what you stand for.
No dummy, I mean if there is a religiously based charter school, the parents can send their child there for a K-12 education; let the money follow the child to the charter school. Part of the problem here is teachers unions, who perpetuate mediocrity. The actions by many teachers unions during the pandemic was scandalous, anti-science, and sclerotic.
Yes, I know, that means madrassas get taxpayer dollars as well; I don't have a problem with that. The money should follow the child.
"Let the money follow the child." So you think religious charter schools should only get money that's allocated per-student, but bulk grants to religious charter schools are still illegal?
Government funding of religious education via the 'money follows the student' model has been a thing for almost a century now. The GI Bill allows government funds to be used to pay for seminary. Lots and lots of precedents and experience of nothing going wrong in that context. The government can just as easily and just as legally do for elementary school students what it has been doing for a long time for college students.
You seem to have missed the point of the conversation, which was to point out Amos and Roger's silly hypocricy. And XY's flawed logic, to a lesser extent.
Unfortunately you couch your poor argument in inflammatory clothing.
EVERY statement made about an ultimate must be religous so that is not helpful at all. IF saying all men are created equal is religious then so is denying it.
And you just don't understand that the reason we all fund things we don't approve of or agree with is because the future of our country demands you support the next generation whether you have children or not. Your argument is right next door to the one that says "I don't have kids so I am not fuinding any kind of schooling"
You're just a racist who believe blacks cannot be as good as you so they need DEI carveouts to be equal. That is your article of faith.
If it's a religion, than extinguishing it would be violating the free exercise of religion, right?
No longer funneling millions/billions of taxpayer dollars to it isn't 'extinguishing' it. Unless it can't survive without this largesse and thus deserves to die out anyway for that reason. You can practice it all you want on your own time on your own dime.
Actually, there is quite a bit of litigation about whether governments can deny contracts to religious organizations solely on that account. I guess you say yes, and maybe go further to say that government could contract with Protestant organizations while refusing to contract with Catholic or Jewish organizations. I'm not sure that's the law.
I think its acceptable for government to contract and deal with religious organizations. To what extent, is too complicated an issue to go into here. But to have one religious group in a preferential official position across the country getting loads of support with the others regularly in the periphery in comparison would not be acceptable.
What about an executive order forbidding contracts with one religion but not others?
No, because our law establishes that the Biblical/Judeo-Christian principles of our Founding are supreme over every other principle
the State may not establish a “religion of secularism” in the sense of affirmatively opposing or showing hostility to religion, thus “preferring those who believe in no religion over those who do believe” (Zorach v. Clauson).
And the Mormon Bigamy case explicitly repudiates your point of view
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If they are, then those who do not make polygamy a part of their religious belief may be found guilty and punished, while those who do, must be acquitted and go free. This would be introducing a new element into criminal law. Laws are made for the government of actions, and while they cannot interfere with mere religious belief and opinions, they may with practices. Suppose one believed that human sacrifices were a necessary part of religious worship, would it be seriously contended that the civil government under which he lived could not interfere to prevent a sacrifice? Or if a wife religiously believed it was her duty to burn herself upon the funeral pile of her dead husband, would it be beyond the power of the civil government to prevent her carrying her belief into practice?
So here, as a law of the organization of society under the exclusive dominion of the United States, it is provided that plural marriages shall not be allowed. Can a man excuse his practices to the contrary because of his religious belief? To permit this would be to make the professed doctrines of religious belief superior to the law of the land, and in effect to permit every citizen to become a law unto himself. Government could exist only in name under such circumstances. . . .
Discrimination is already illegal and there are existing methods to deal with those cases. Anything else is outside of the authority of the president.
So sick of the Facebook meme logic. Yeah discrimination from school officials is already illegal and that is why (discrimination no longer called discrimination)/discrimination with extra steps/DEI does should not exist. Not a reason for it to continue to exist.
They think you can have a functional first world multiethnic country where a large plurality of the population is entitled to sinecures in every aspect of society . It is absolutely insane
Who do you think is constitutionally charged with executing the laws? How are executive orders from the President directing federal agencies to carry out their lawful duties consistent with the President's policies outside the authority of the President? It is quintessentially within his constitutional authority and duty.
The President does not have the authority to tell schools and businesses what to do about DEI.
Schools and businesses are not above the law.
The President’s whim is not the law.
That's absurd. The constitutional duty of the president is to execute the laws. He has directed his agencies to carry out their lawful duties consistent with his policy objectives. There is no direction to execute unlawful "whims."
There are laws that forbid discrimination. There are no laws forbidding anyone from promoting ideas the president doesn't like.
The president can direct subordinates to enforce laws that forbid discrimination, but only in lawful ways. Those laws are not enforceable by having the president decide that certain people or institutions are guilty of violating them, and then punishing those people or institutions. The executive is prosecutor (in a criminal sense or in a civil sense), not judge and jury.
So --- prodigy of Logic -- what if the President doesn't like your idea of discrimination !!! See, you never question your terminology.
But there are laws forbidding the promotion of many different ideas. The executive branch enforces the law not the Judiciary. Back to school for you
As a normal person, you're much too stupid to be posting here. Let the meritocracy work. The winners of the meritocracy -- the elites -- are talking. So go away.
Evidence of your stupidity (from just this one post!):
1. A sad attempt at the always desperate "words have no meaning so how can I be wrong" gambit.
2. A complete misunderstanding of the First Amendment.
3. A complete misunderstanding of the state of the law.
4. An incorrect notion of what it means to "enforce the law."
Continuing your example David, doesn't the prosecutor have prosecutorial discretion? That is what is happening here, an exercise of political discretion.
"There are no laws forbidding anyone from promoting ideas the president doesn't like."
That very much depends on how the ideas are promoted, now, doesn't it?
Say the President doesn't like the idea that some race is inherently inferior and guilty, and deserving of being treated like shit.
Your boss, in order to promote this idea, (You're a member of that race.) requires you to regularly attend sessions where you're endlessly harangued about how inferior and guilty you are, and told to acknowledge that you deserve to be treated like shit. It's mandatory employee training, don'cha know.
I think that could fall under "hostile work environment".
Doesn’t make much sense crazy Dave. Ever heard of prosecutorial discretion? The president is not acting as a judge. The federal judge here is trying to act as the president. Again, the president executes the laws, not the judiciary. And the president is using his lawfully authority by directing agencies to act lawfully consistent with his policy priorities. He is not directing anyone to act unlawfully or to act as a judge or jury.
Prosecutorial discretion is the ability of a prosecutor to decide which crimes they do or don't prosecute. It's not the ability of a prosecutor to decide that something is a crime. That's the legislature's job, not the prosecutor's. If Congress wants to make it illegal to have "DEI policies," whatever that means, then Congress will have to pass a law making that so (which will then likely be struck down by the courts as an unconstitutional abridgement of free speech rights, but that's another discussion).
Congress has ALREADY made it illegal to have DEI policies, is the thing. They did so decades ago. It has survived as long as it has due to systematic prosecutorial discretion, the determination to not enforce those laws so long as the victims are the 'wrong' race or ethnicity.
The general public has not been on board with that determination for a long while now, and finally have a President determined to put an end to it.
Now, it's possible to interpret freedom of association, freedom of speech, and those icky Lochnerian economic liberties, expansively enough to render those Congressionally originated laws against discrimination unconstitutional. Certainly enough people thought at the time they were enacted that they went too far. They just lost that argument.
But if that happens, they're not going to be struck down just in favor of DEI, as the left would like, but in terms of private sector discrimination in general. Because DEI isn't distinguishable from other private sector racial discrimination on any basis that the majority on the Court considers constitutionally relevant. WHO gets discriminated against is not something the Court's majority considers relevant to constitutionality!
The general public has not been on board with that determination for a long while now
One must ask what kind of government you think we live in.
Because DEI isn't distinguishable from other private sector racial discrimination
Yet again, you treat DEI like it's race-based affirmative action, and that's it.
No matter how many times you're told that's wrong, this is the definition that you want to argue, so you can't stop using it.
No, Congress made it illegal to discriminate based on race, religion and other protected criteria. Holding meetings to educate employees about implicit bias and in-group/out-group dynamics, and trying to ensure that you find and recruit qualified candidates from a broad array of backgrounds backgrounds, is not discrimination, no matter how many times snowflakes pretend otherwise.
"Yet again, you treat DEI like it's race-based affirmative action, "
Because. It. Is. Where it isn't other forms of racial discrimination.
DEI is just the latest guise of the left's "Racial discrimination now, racial discrimination tomorrow, racial discrimination forever!" crusade. First claiming it was remedial. Then it was diversity. Now you've added "equity" and "inclusion".
But the thing you're doing is still racial discrimination, which you can't let go of doing. Every time some excuse is knocked down, you find another excuse and fire up the discrimination machine again.
And every time the Court has less patience with the game, so I don't think DEI is going to win this one for you. Time to start brainstorming a new excuse to discriminate.
Once again: no. “DEI” is a vague and amorphous term that occasionally refers to preferences (which are generally illegal), but which you pretend always does.
You're making factual accusations of what I personally think and do with zero evidence. In fact contradicting many comments I have written about what I do and think.
What would be sufficient evidence for you to believe your definition of DEI is wrong, Brett?
Yes Brett, you're wrong. And the funniest part is, you're setting a trap for yourself because of it.
I assume you, like Trump, are against "disparate impact" analyses. He just did an EO about that too, instructing agencies not to concern themselves with policing disparate impact. But guess what DEI actually is? It's not discrimination. It's disparate impact.
So all we have to do is come up with a new name, maybe we'll even call it like "equalizing disparities" or something that makes it clearly a disparate impact policy. And it'll have the blessing of the Trump administration.
Just like how you haven't figured out yet that meritocracy breeds elites.
Oh, but he most certainly does. I do not approve of this BUT if you take federal funds (and virtually all schools do) you are under contract !! to do certain things. Where I work they accepted FEMA funds so now every Constitution Day some academic nod to the Constitution is supposed to take place. If it doesn't you are in violation of a contract with the Feds....not looking good if you do that 😉
Consider the question begged.
Consistent with his policy priorities. Like ever president has done since there were presidents to execute the laws. Even the Big Guy, although he had the rather questionable priorities to prosecute his political opponents, and grandmothers peacefully protesting at the Capitol, and people praying near abortion clinics, and to facilitate millions of illegals in trespassing over the border.
All of these judges operating in bad faith. If these orders are illegal all protected-speech-based applications of hostile workplace environment causes of action must go to
Pace David Bernstein, it isn't a good argument to say, "Someone else did something wrong, so now it's my turn to get mine."
Pull that thread and the whole MAGA ethos unravels.
The only ethical principle that MAGA believes in is payback. As measured by them.
I don't see any posts from you complaining about arch-crook Biden and provably wasteful money addicted Kamala
Reward your friends but punish your enemies is the Kennedy Rule.
Read Salena Zito on the Trump victory and you will see what a fool you are. My neighbors, my co-workers overwhelming had no reference to ethos , they hated Kamala throwing poor donors money to billionaire Oprah and Biden pardoning utter bastards.
You are exhibiting self-hypnosis
Really I think that sort of thing is the ultimate goal in this game of chess. You can't realistically stop the libs from promoting DEI and I don't think that is the end game.
The end game is to get them making legal arguments which gut the idea of a hostile workplace environment, eliminate sexual harassment lawsuits, and overrule the Bob Jones case---all of which will free businesses from costly litigation and compliance costs.
People who accuse Trump of being an idiot do so at their own peril.
The Supreme Court is 6-3. You don’t need to get liberals to do anything.
This is Trump plays 5D chess nonsense.
You guys keep comparing this to hostile workplace policies. Those policies borrow principles from contract law, not civil right law. The theory is that the employee didn't sign up for a hostile workplace, and employment agreements can generally be assumed to imply a non-hostile working environment. So if it is hostile, the employer violated the agreement.
It's like if the employer set the thermostat to 125 degrees. Employees can reasonably expect livable temperatures and no more than light harassment.
Employers are totally free to include explicit "you will be subject to constant harassment and hot temperatures" in their employment agreements if they want to. Then the employee would have no basis to complain. (There might be other problems with that, like OSHA standards, but that's a different conversation.)
In other words, the speech itself -- the harassment -- isn't the issue. It's the fact that the employer (implicity) promised not to, and then they did.
Patently untrue. Most employees have no employment contract and to the extent that they do, do you think that a clause that says "Racial and/or sexually charged jokes or innuendo may be expected at this workplace. Sexual solicitation may be offered." inserted into a contract can kill litigation at the outset?
Yes. And it doesn't have to be a written contract. That's why I used the term "agreement."
To establish whether the situation is actionable the "totality of circumstances" must be weighed with an eye to determining "that the harassment affected a term, condition, or privilege of employment in that it was sufficiently severe or pervasive to alter the condition of the victim's employment..."
What accounts for EV's lack of endorsement for this opinion? Where is the accustomed, "Seems right to me?"
This decision was a no-brainer.
One of the characteristics of authoritarian discourae is to associate opponents with criminality by sheer say-so, multiply repeated in cult-like fashion.
Sure there have been DEI people and ideas abd writings that have been batshit crazy. But Trumpistas seek to use this fringe to shut down discourse about any problems in this country. Yes, there was a rediculous chart calling the ADL a racist organization used by a crazy Harvard Education professor. But Trump has ordered the Smithsonian Institution to remove exhibits on segregation. Trump and Trumpistas are using the batshit crazy people to shut down any discourse acknowlwdging or talking seriously about problems.
But Trump has ordered the Smithsonian Institution to remove exhibits on segregation.
The Smithsonian can not be trusted on this issue.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article244309587.html
ReaderY, I think the obvious rejoinder is, the judges previous ruling was stayed on appeal. Why is this judge right now, when a circuit court panel stayed the previous ruling?
Was it a no-brainer for the circuit court?
To me, this is a classic case of Federal money comes with Federal strings. The strings are held by the opposite political party now. This is where the phrase, elections have consequences, comes into play.
What am I missing?
That Congress, not the president, decides what strings will be attached to federal money.
That those strings must be clearly spelled out explicitly in advance.
That those strings can't be unconstitutional.
That there's a process that must be followed to determine whether the recipient complied with the strings; the president doesn't get to just announce that the recipient didn't and order the funds to be cut.
Why not? It is called termination for convenience. Pretty much a standard for contracting, no?
No. (These aren’t contracts.)
"But Trump has ordered the Smithsonian Institution to remove exhibits on segregation. "
Show us the order clearly stating that, please. (Here's the actual order.)
Really, the only good thing about the level of malicious compliance we're seeing lately, is all the people in desperate need of firing who self-identify by engaging in it.
Remember this?
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article244309587.html
Sure. Here's the actual order.
Trying out a new version of your rhetorical tic, I see: Pretending you've supported your position by linking to evidence that it's wrong.
Let's see the actual words in that order you would assert require the Smithsonian to remove exhibits on segregation. Because I see nothing in that order that would be reasonably construed to demand that.
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/black-history/civil-rights-museum-of-african-americna-history-trump-administration/65-34b205a3-8763-48ce-9aa3-a8bacb71e926
Get as hyper literal as you want; it's happening.
You'll deny all examples of the neo-Maoist 'review for non-MAGA ideology' is going on in the federal government, but for that is absolutely happening.
I'm not denying that "it" is happening. I'm pointing out that it's happening as a result of malicious compliance, not Trump ordering people to do it. Just like some asshole in the Air Force taking down the Tuskegee Airmen page.
"Interpret' the order in the stupidest, most destructive way possible, do something unintended supposedly on the basis of it, and then make sure the media find out before your action gets reversed. That's what has been going on.
If Trump wants to do something outrageous, he knows how to explicitly command it, he doesn't beat around the bush.
Once again, “malicious compliance” is a made up phrase for “You did exactly what I wanted you to do but it made me look bad.”
So segregation materials are being removed. But it's okay because you speculate the libs would have found a way to do a DEI were it not for this top-down ideological erasure of history.
There are ways to deal with people not implementing something like you want them to. Ignoring previously completed competitive procedures and having your own people implement ideological guardrails is not how you do that.
It is how you act like Russia or China in the bad old days.
Moreover, you have no evidence of this malicious compliance. Certainly not at the scope this ideological policing is being implemented.
You just choose to believe it so you can excuse being cool with this authoritarian/collectivist memory-holing at the Smithsonian.
Strictly speaking, the thing you linked to that you claimed is the "actual order" isn't the actual order; it's a "fact sheet" about that order. The "actual order" is here. (But the fact sheet largely tracks the order.)
And it directs them to "remove improper ideology," and to prohibit "exhibits or programs that degrade shared American values, divide Americans based on race, or promote programs or ideologies inconsistent with Federal law and policy."
And in case you pretend not to understand what Trump meant, Section 1 makes explicit that talking about racism in American history transgresses.
Didn't you just now "associate opponents with criminality"
UTTER BULLSHIT
I teach college. They cannot do math (1/3 you could safely estimate), they write like sht, and many are functionallyl illiterate. DEI is just the very thing people turn to so they don't have to do their job and now you join them 8 years of GRAMMAR school and they know sht all about grammar. Somebody help me out here !!!
Reproduced without comment.
We've found another janitor!
Judge who issued stayed ruling still thinks he was right, news at 11.
OK, seriously, I do not understand the legalities of this: A judge issues a ruling. It is stayed on appeal.
While the appeal is ongoing, he "reaffirms" the ruling.
WTF? I'm sorry dude, your ruling is stayed, and it's being appealed. This isn't your case anymore!
Everything beyond, "No, I can't overturn the stay." is gratuitous dicta.
You know, I understand (unlike Brett!) that law can be complicated, and legitimately confusing or counterintuitive at times. I don't expect non-lawyers (or even lawyers speaking in an area of law they don't practice) to understand every procedural issue that arises. What I don't understand is the phenomenon of getting outraged and yelling "How can the court do that?" about a procedural issue when the court explained it right in the order it issued. The court spends the first third of its opinion (pages 2-6) explaining the basis of its jurisdiction.
As not guilty has said many times, there is no substitute for actually reading the court opinion one is discussing.
Yes, I read the part where the judge explained that he couldn't unstay or renew his order, (Even if there HAD been a basis for lifting it, he was the wrong judge to ask!) which rendered all the verbiage 'reaffirming' it pointless dicta.
So you did read it, but didn't understand anything of what you read?
The question you asked above was how he could hear it, since it "wasn't his case anymore." The pages I referred you to explained that it is his case, that he has jurisdiction to hear a Rule 59 motion. And if he has jurisdiction, then he has to hear it.
The rest of the opinion analyzed their motion, as he was required to do, and explained why they are not entitled to relief at this time. None of it is "dicta."
Did you somehow miss the part quoted in the OP, which was utterly irrelevant since he couldn't act on the basis of it, and had already determined he couldn't?
It's the usual "Determine that you can't do what the plaintiff wants, then waste everybody's time explaining how horribly wrong that is" act. Once he'd figured out he couldn't undo the stay, that should have been the end of it. Instead he used court resources to attack Trump.
Once again, nobody was asking him to undo any stay.
Gee Brett, you are really sifting through crumbs for anything you can rile yourself up about by imagining some liberal bad faith. No weekend plans I take it?
He had to "reaffirm" his previous ruling because that's why no new injunction could be done. Nothing materially changed.
Note that they did not ask him to "unstay or renew his order," so you really understood nothing of what you read.
First, where were (are) all you left wing 1st Amendment absolutists (oxymoron alert) when grandmothers were being and are being arrested for praying on the sidewalk across the street from an abortion clinic?
Second, federal funds can be stopped by the government when the recipient is acting unlawfully. DEI, which is racism, violates Federal law. Ergo, the Federal government is not required to fund it.
Stopping government funding is not speech suppression. Neither is stopping tax exempt status.
How about this: an EO that says government contractors cannot mandate DEI sessions for their workers. They can give voluntary sessions, and lobby for DEI.
Constitutional? And if not, what about the workers' First Amendment rights?
What first amendment rights of the workers do you think are implicated by either the actual case or by your hypothetical?
The right not to be harangued by messages you disagree with, on pain of losing your job.
And my primary question was, would an EO that was limited to government contractors not forcing their employees to listen to DEI lectures be Constitutional?
I am very curious what provision of the 1A you think protects one's right not to hear speech one disagrees with.
https://www.bu.edu/law/journals-archive/bulr/volume89n3/documents/CORBIN.pdf
https://repository.law.miami.edu/fac_articles/296/
https://scholarship.law.edu/scholar/151/
So… you cited two law review articles¹ that wish there were such a right, but don't actually come close to citing anything resembling support for the actual existence of such a right. While we're at it, do you have anything about the influence of Immanuel Kant on evidentiary approaches in eighteenth century Bulgaria?
¹You provided three links, but the pickings were so slim that two of them were to the same article!
Could a government contractor have mandatory training about how blacks are inferior and shouldn't date good white women? Assume the company complies with anti-discrimination laws by hiring blacks on a merit based equal system.
If one would say "no" then it seems that this policy is the other side of that coin. You may disagree with it, but you aren't the one in charge of enforcing it. If you would say "yes" then that is at least consistent with your position here, but would undo decades of civil rights laws. It seems Trump has the far better legal argument.
DEI trainings are dumb, but your assertion that they say white are inferior and shouldn't date black people is...just weird fucked up fan fiction.
It's MAGA is quit willing to lie to themselves and others to create demons to fight so they can rationalize the lawless implementation of their grievances as cool and good.
I never claimed that is what DEI did. The issue is that we have a generally applicable law that says "do not discriminate because of race." Can a company nominally do that yet promote and teach ideas which do discriminate because of race?
For decades we have said no. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, the left wants to argue that we can under some blend of theories that DEI is "good" discrimination or that it is so benign that it is not racial discrimination at all.
Even given that DEI and "no interracial dating" are not identical counterparts, doesn't the freedom of speech argued in this case carry the day to allow the "no interracial dating" classes? Why not?
The left is not arguing that DEI is "good discrimination." You're falling for the very demons that Sarcastr0 mentioned and their hench-strawmen.
As I mentioned above, the left is arguing that DEI is "good disparate impact." It's the right who's arguing that disparate impact -- even "bad disparate impact" -- isn't discrimination.
Disparate impact is actually irrelevant to racism from the right's perspective, because it can happen in cases where there IS racism, and in cases where there ISN'T, it tells you nothing about whether there's racism in place.
So, maybe black admissions at your school are low (disparate impact) because you systematically discriminate against blacks. Bad.
Or maybe black admissions at your school are low because your admissions department is completely race blind, and black applicants on average score lower on the SAT. Meritocracy, good.
Knowing that there's disparate impact does not tell you which of these situations is happening, and only one of them is objectionable from a right wing perspective.
You're out of step with the Republican mainstream. According to Trump, neither of your examples is bad. He just instructed his agencies to stop investigating and drop all pending enforcement actions in cases like this:
Maybe black admissions at your school are low (disparate impact) because you systematically discriminate against blacks.
Remember, these guys don't believe in systemic discrimination anyway, or at least they pretend not to. So really their position is that your example of "bad disparate impact" can't exist. Discrimination is only discrimination if it's explicit.
It seems that what you all are after is a quota system by other means. If in a particular program there are not X% of a particular race when X% is that race's representation in the general population, then your position is that the discrepancy simply MUST be due to racial discrimination of some type and be actionable and subject to some program which "corrects" the discrepancy.
How does DEI differ from quotas at the end of the day?
It's not clear what the left is arguing. We are told that it is not X, not Y, and not Z, but they fight tooth and nail to keep whatever it is. Perhaps you should outline your definition of DEI.
As far as disparate impact, it is a doctrine that does not belong. If a policy is racially neutral and has no racially discriminatory purpose, then a test of general applicability that happens to fall harder on some races (because they lag behind in basic math skills, for example) is not racially discriminatory and should not be considered.
DEI does not stand for discrimination, but it does stand for disparate impact in a couple ways.
First, focusing on things like inclusion (for everyone) will obviously have more of an impact on people and groups who aren't typically already included than on people and groups who are.
Second, given the choice between different neutral policies, choose the one that results in better diversity. For example, a company is committed to hiring the best people it can find. But it can change where it looks. Rather than do the easy thing of just recruiting from the same Ivy Leagues that the existing, non-diverse workforce came from, expand recruitment more broadly to include, for example, community colleges.
U of M's new DEI budget goes to the following:
-Expanding financial aid: As previously announced, the Go Blue Guarantee has been expanded to benefit all families with an income of $125,000 or less. Other ways to further reduce the cost of attendance will be explored.
-Enhancing mental health support: Mental health resources will be increased to better support all students.
-Expanding the Blavin Scholars Program: Given its exceptional impact, a plan will be developed to expand this program to serve even more students.
-Strengthening academic success: U-M will explore ways to enhance student success through improved advising, counseling and pre-professional guidance, as well as continue investing in innovative approaches, such as 24/7 AI tutors and a personal AI assistant for every member of the community.
-Fostering community and belonging: U-M will seek opportunities to expand student life programs that strengthen community, promote a sense of belonging and expand accessibility.
-Preserving key student spaces: The university remains committed to maintaining vital student spaces, including the Trotter Multicultural Center, the Spectrum Center and various multicultural spaces in residence halls, all of which are open to all students.
-Celebrating cultural and ethnic programs: Cultural and ethnic events that enrich our campus and foster a vibrant, inclusive environment will continue to be supported.
https://record.umich.edu/articles/u-m-announces-important-changes-to-dei-programs/
DEI or no?
The "right" way to get rid of DEI via an Executive Order, I think, would be to merely direct agencies to treat all such efforts as self-evident forms of illegal racial discrimination, and to require them to communicate this policy change to their respective staff, vendors and constituents. Afterwards, leave it up to individuals to bring suits if they have personally been harmed. You won't have to wait long, I'm guessing.
There's no need to mix it up with 1A claims, this really is just a change in policy, something entirely within the normal scope of executive powers.