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Justice Alito Dissents: "Both the Executive and the Judiciary have an obligation to follow the law."
Justice Alito also questions whether the Court even had jurisdiction to act.
Saturday evening, I published three posts on A.A.R.P. v. Trump. Around midnight eastern time, Justice Alito issued his dissent, which was joined only by Justice Thomas. The dissent begins: "Shortly after midnight yesterday, the Court hastily and prematurely granted unprecedented emergency relief." He is correct.
Justice Alito lists seven bullets which demonstrates why this order was problematic. The first bullet argues that it is unclear the Court had jurisdiction:
It is not clear that the Court had jurisdiction. The All Writs Act does not provide an independent grant of jurisdiction. See 28 U. S. C. §1651(a) (permitting writs "necessary or appropriate in aid of " a court's jurisdiction); Clinton v. Goldsmith, 526 U. S. 529, 534–535 (1999) ("the express terms" of the All Writs Act "confine the power of [a court] to issuing process' in aid of ' its existing statutory jurisdiction; the Act does not enlarge that jurisdiction" (quoting §1651(a)). Therefore, this Court had jurisdiction only if the Court of Appeals had jurisdiction of the applicants' appeal, see §1254 (granting this Court jurisdiction to review "[c]ases in the courts of appeals"), and the Court of Appeals had jurisdiction only if the supposed order that the applicants appealed amounted to the denial of a preliminary injunction. See §1292(a)(1).
I've received a number of emails about my Marbury post. I'll offer a few points in response. The All Writs Act permits the Court to take actions in aid of its jurisdiction, and even in aid of its future jurisdiction. But, as Justice Alito notes, the All Writs Act does not, by itself, grant the Court new statutory jurisdiction. The Court still must have statutory jurisdiction from some other basis. The usual basis is where there is a judgment that is appealable under Section 1292. In some cases, the Court have construed a TRO as, in effect, a preliminary injunction, thus permitting the Court to intervene. But in A.A.R.P., the District Court did not rule at all, one way or the other. There is a doctrine where the "constructive" denial of a TRO is considered a ruling. But as Judge Ramirez pointed out, the district court was given about 42 minutes to rule. There is no sense this was a "constructive" denial.
Perhaps the ACLU might argue that the question of whether there is a "constructive" denial is a merits question. But I think it has to be jurisdictional, and that is what the Fifth Circuit concluded. If the Supreme Court wanted to issue any relief, it would have to satisfy itself there was a constructive denial, which would afford it some sort of statutory jurisdiction. I doubt any such finding was made. The Court fell for the ACLU's petition hook, line, and sinker.
It's not at all clear to me that the Supreme Court had any appellate statutory jurisdiction in this case. And if it was not exercising an appellate statutory jurisdiction, then how did the Court issue an order to the "government" (however defined)? If in fact the All Writs Act permits the Supreme Court to assume statutory jurisdiction over a future appeal, and issue an injunction, when in fact the District Court was never even given a chance to rule, then the All Writs Act may have some Marbury problems.
Has the Supreme Court ever issued an injunction or mandamus in a case where there is no ruling from any lower court? (I am not talking about cases of constructive denial.) I would wager the answer is no, but maybe someone knows of these cases. I am happy to post an update.
Justice Alito's second and third bullets focus on whether the ACLU complied with the Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure Rule 8(a)(1)(A) and Supreme Court Rule 23.3 about emergency relief. They didn't. These sorts of procedural rules only seem to matter when the Court wants to deny relief.
Alito does include a piece of information that hasn't been made public:
When this Court rushed to enter its order, the Court of Appeals was considering the issue of emergency relief, and we were informed that a decision would be forthcoming.
Based on my calculations, the Fifth Circuit ruled within a few minutes of the Supreme Court. The Fifth Circuit's order was dated April 18. It was issued around midnight central time, which would be around 1:00 a.m. ET. The Supreme Court's order was issued around 1:00 a.m. ET. It isn't clear which happened first. I asked the Clerk of the Fifth Circuit for clarification, which should be a matter of public record. But now we learn that Chief Justice Roberts knew the Fifth Circuit was going to rule, but just didn't give a damn to wait. Maybe he thought it was easier to try to rule first, and avoid having to make any ruling on anything?
Justice Alito's fourth bullet explains the problems with granting ex parte relief, where there are only briefs from one side.
Justice Alito's fifth bullet attacks another ruling issued late at night: South Bay:
The papers before us, while alleging that the applicants were in imminent danger of removal, provided little concrete support for that allegation. Members of this Court have repeatedly insisted that an All Writs Act injunction pending appeal may only be granted when, among other things, "the legal rights at issue are indisputably clear and, even then, sparingly and only in the most critical and exigent circumstances." South Bay United Pentecostal Church v. Newsom, 590 U. S. ___, ___ (2020) (ROBERTS, C. J., concurring in denial of application for injunctive relief ) (slip op., at 2) (internal quotation marks omitted) (quoting S. Shapiro, K. Geller, T. Bishop, E.Hartnett, D. Himmelfarb, Supreme Court Practice§17.4, p. 17–9 (11th ed. 2019));
In my earlier post, I speculated:
Can you imagine if the Supreme Court had bypassed all lower courts, and enjoined an emergency COVID regulation twenty-four hours after a district court TRO was filed?
Does everyone remember the South Bay "super precedent"? During the pandemic, there were actual imminent injuries by American citizens who sought to pray on holidays. But Chief Justice Roberts took his time, and ruled against people of faith for months at a time. It wasn't until Justice Barrett's confirmation that this tide turned. (I am convinced she regrets that early vote.) By contrast, the Court issues unprecedented orders to ensure that alleged gang members, who are in this country illegally, cannot be deported. I'm glad that the Chief has his priorities straight. This is what Trump would call an 80/20 issue.
Justice Alito's sixth bullet references a hearing before Judge Boasberg on a Saturday.
Although this Court did not hear directly from the Government regarding any planned deportations under the Alien Enemies Act in this matter, an attorney representing the Government in a different matter, J. G. G. v. Trump, No. 1:25–cv–766 (DC), informed the District Court in that case during a hearing yesterday evening that no such deportations were then planned to occur either yesterday, April18, or today, April 19.
Judges in the Beltway apparently are always on call to hold emergency hearings whenever the ACLU asks for one. It is unclear why Judge Boasberg is doing anything with these cases. The Supreme Court found he lacks venue and the D.C. Circuit stayed his special prosecutor frolick. Still, even if Boasberg denied relief, he is still demanding concessions from government lawyers.
The seventh bullet points out an obvious argument: the Court has never held that habeas can be used to certify a class, and the District Court never certified a class. The Supreme Court cannot exercise Rule 23 powers on the fly.
Although the Court provided class-wide relief, the District Court never certified a class, and this Court has never held that class relief may be sought in a habeas proceeding.
Justice Alito issues a challenge to his fellow members: I couldn't join this opinion, so why did you?
In sum, literally in the middle of the night, the Court issued unprecedented and legally questionable relief without giving the lower courts a chance to rule, without hearing from the opposing party, within eight hours of receiving the application, with dubious factual support for its order, and without providing any explanation for its order. I refused to join the Court's order because we had no good reason to think that, under the circumstances, issuing an order at midnight was necessary or appropriate.
The conclusion is a shot at J. Harvie Wilkinson:
Both the Executive and the Judiciary have an obligation to follow the law. The Executive must proceed under the terms of our order in Trump v. J. G. G., 604 U. S. ___ (2025) (per curiam), and this Court should follow established procedures.
Amen. The obligation cannot only be on Trump; the Court must obey the law as well. The more Chief Justice Roberts issues decisions like this, the more his precious "legitimacy" withers. I made a similar point here:
In a stress test, the Justices of the Supreme Court failed. In the same breath that Judges like J. Harvie Wilkinson wax poetic about the executive branch behaving lawlessly, the highest court in the land does no better.
Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas are national treasures.
Justices Gorsuch and Kavanaugh did not join this dissent. I see a redux of the tax return cases, where the clearly agreed with the dissenters but could not be seen ruling for Trump. As for Justice Barrett, I think we can finally bury the "process formalism" defense. There are so many procedural reasons why she should have dissented here. But she did not, without any explanation. We can't read an opinion that does not exist; much like the Supreme Court cannot review a decision that does not exist.
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God, Blackman is so stupid it hurts. Cheif Justice Roberts did not issue the decision. It was 7-2. Then he goes on to make statements about Gorsuch and Kavanaugh's specific motivations even though he has no special insight. Why is Blackman still a commentator on this blog?
We don’t know if it was 7-2. On the shadow docket Justices don’t have to announce their dissent.
It’s highly unlikely a justice would dissent but not announce it. What would be the point? Even if theoretically possible Blackman would have no way of knowing and so his comments are baseless speculation.
I agree with your general statement but there were reports of one or more justices over the years disagreeing with a per curiam and not announcing their dissent. They disagreed but did not think it worthwhile to openly say so. Also, at some point, there was probably a case where the Court handed down an order, and a justice didn't take part for some reason & it was not necessary to say so.
Josh, it's 1 am. Anyone at DOJ who would have hired you has already passed on the idea. You aren't getting there by misunderstanding the all writs act in four different directions.
Hey while you're up go ahead and kill yourself
You first
"Go ahead and kill yourself" is both ad hominem and beyond the pale. It's not acceptable and has nothing to do with the question of if he is right or not.
Mr Shoot Illegals, throw trans off bridges, run over protestors with snowplows, etc., weighs in on beyond the pale.
Reported to the CCP for wasting their tax remnabi.
Magnus meant to write CPS, which he’s used to his mom being reported to.
Don't forget Mr. Those Murdered Sex Workers Got What They Deserved.
"Assumption of risk"?
There is a big difference -- although I don't ever recall personally advocating throwing trannies off bridges, although I do sometimes reference a certain 1984 incident in Bangor.
The right of a sovereign state to use deadly force is well established, and I do not believe that the concept of a pedestrian right of way extends to deliberate blockades.
I agree. There’s no place for that. No one deserves that.
Ed's right, but so is Malika.
He's maybe the worst messenger to try and object.
More flop sweat from Blackman.
How so?
From Alito's dissent:
"except in the most extraordinary circumstances, an application for a stay will not be entertained"
"sparingly and only in the most critical and exigent circumstances"
Could not the circumstances here be such?
Consider it the other way around. Had scotus waited for the lower courts. and some planes had taken off, plaintiffs would have no way to seek relief. We already know that the Trump administration won't turn planes around based on anything like a court order. The only response would be 'Oopsie, too late'.
How critical and exigent can the circumstances be when no flights are planned?
As legal fight raged, ICE buses filled with Venezuelans heading toward airport turned around, video shows
At least 28 detainees were placed on buses Friday evening at ICE’s Bluebonnet Detention Center in Anson, Texas, and then driven toward an airport about an hour away.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna202007
Hey Michael P, is it now appropriate to sanction anyone for lying to the courts about the claim that no flights were planned?
Though I think it’s entirely possible that the govt lawyer (Drew Ensign, I believe) who asserted that there were no plans might have been lied to as well, and he did not knowingly lie to the court.
Only if we are going to impeach and remove judges for acting without jurisdiction, as some here have said is the (only) proper basis to impeach judges.
So no response to the discussion, just gonna throw out red herrings.
It’s a bitch to serve the Mad King.
Make sure to compost.
Denialists gonna denialist.
You say this every time you're called on your bullshit. I hope it gives you some small comfort.
Per Article III, § 1 of the Constitution, "The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour[.]"
Michael P, who on these comment threads has said that acting without jurisdiction is the (only) proper basis to impeach judges? I make no claim to be omniscient, but I don't recall any such comment.
“Plans” can change. The government attorneys said they would “notify the court” if plans change. They did not categorically rule out flights until the court could address the emergency on a less urgent basis.
The government also chose to start this on a Friday. This does not fill one with confidence that notifying the court would be accomplished in a manner actually intended to allow time for a response by plaintiffs’ lawyers and courts, as opposed to another round of smirking “oopsie, nothing we can do now” responses.
If the government is going to take such efforts to weasel, the courts can and should respond as if weaseling is afoot.
Narrator: "Flights were in fact planned."
I hate that I have to ask this question, but do all of these Venezuelans have criminal convictions?
If they are shipping people to foreign prisons, that should require not just a deportation proceeding, but a criminal conviction, right? RIGHT?
I suppose on some level I had assumed that they are deporting convicted criminals we were holding in US prisons. But what, are they sweeping supposed gang members straight off the street and putting them into prison without a trial? Just because the prison is not on US soil does not make this ok. And a deportation hearing is not sufficient to justify imprisonment.
This is the whole problem with the Garcia case. WTF is he in prison for? Who cares about the deportation part. It's the imprisonment without trial part that we should be worrying about.
You should petition the El Salvadoran government.
Well, it is run by a dictator. And clearly Bukele is willing to give Trump a wink and a nudge and keep Garcia in prison because Trump doesn't feel like doing anything about it. The chortling between them on social media and in public about how they aren't going to let him go is disgusting.
It would be more understandable if Garcia was a political opposition figure. In this case, he's decided to stomp all over the rights of a total nobody and laugh about it, like they were enjoying squashing a bug.
Yes, it is disgusting, and undignified. I can't imagine any other President acting like a giggling juvenile bully, let alone doing it in public so shamelessly.
No. Just to reiterate what I said a couple of times before: the entire purpose of resorting to a fake AEA argument is because the government doesn't have any other grounds to deport these people. They are here legally and haven't done anything to make themselves deportable. AEA allows the government to seize and deport citizens of countries we are at war with (TdA is not a country and we're not at war with Venezuela) without any other conditions.
But you are correct that the power to deport is not the same as the power to imprison.
I maintain that given the administration’s position that deportation errors can not be remedied, the courts order was proper. The administration’s history of middle of the night flights and lack of candor to the courts also are a major factor against the administration.
Also thx to Alito for giving me something to help me sleep.
This. They're the ones arguing they can't provide due process once the deportees are no longer in US custody. If that's truly the case, then the whole practice of sending people to foreign prisons is unconstitutional.
Fun fact. Jacobins slept famously well.
Interesting comment from a bedfellow-bot of them.
The appointment of Scam Alito to SCOTUS is the second worst decision that George W. Doofus made as President. Who knew that he could actually do worse than his first choice, Harriet Miers?
I predicted at the time that that nomination would go to Alberto Gonzales, with a side agreement that Bush v. Gore would not be overruled unless and until Jenna and Barbara Bush got sober.
Perhaps that didn't happen, and Alito waited until the Bush twins may have begun menopause.
The better option might have been Miguel Estrada but then he would have lost his status as top Republican martyr to Democratic obstructionism. He still endorsed Kagan though.
The appointment of Scam Alito to SCOTUS is the second worst decision that George W. Doofus made as President
Frank? You forgot to switch IDs.
Hey atleast Alito isn't black, because then he'd be one of your famous "stupid, big lipped negro"'s or that not guilty classic "Uncle, Registered Blue Gum, Clarence Tom"'s!
Regular racist here clutches pearls, this is what it means when these people cry racism.
Uh, lol, your English translator stinks.
Uh, no, your English comprehension stinks.
I have taken some hard shots at Clarence Thomas, but I have never called him blue gum.
The only person I have heard use the phrase, "blue gum nigger," is my late father, who from context indicated that that was a complimentary characterization of a black person in his day. I have nothing good to say about Mr. Thomas.
Speaking of my dad, his stepfather's surname was Black, and the family operated the Black Coal Company before and during World War II. He told me that the company's letterhead bore the slogan, "We're in a black business, but we'll treat you white."
"All Writs Act does not, by itself, grant the Court new statutory jurisdiction. The Court still must have statutory jurisdiction from some other basis." - This is correct. But, as others have noted, the statutory jurisdiction can be a future one. Because the lower court will issue an appealable order in the near future, there is no jurisdictional problem.
I also remember that the Court can issue common law certiorari where Section 1254 does not apply.
Marbury sought a final, permanent relief. That was an exercise of original jurisdiction. The order here is not permanent. It is also different from other preliminary injunctions that seek to prevent irreparable harm to plaintiffs. The court acted because it will suffer irreparable harm had the defendants been permitted to strip it of its forthcoming jurisdiction. Courts do not lose jurisdiction when a COVID lockdown order becomes effective.
Marbury was wrongly decided on multiple levels, starting with the fact that Marshall ought to have recused himself.
HAHAHAH!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOL
"Saturday evening, I published three posts on A.A.R.P. v. Trump."
This and those three and Ilya Somin's one make five quick posts on a short nonprecedential order.
Prof Simon provided useful information in the form of Prof Vladek (who was also just interviewed on NPR this morning).
Prof Blackmun made self-important bloviations … without even the goddamn common courtesy of using the “Read More” feature.
I don't think I have ever read an opinion where a Justice tells two branches of government to follow the law quite like this before (meaning Justice Alito). And I don't think he will be a guest at CJ Roberts' Easter dinner table this evening, either. He was a fine pick for SCOTUS.
But...Why did SCOTUS even step into this case, at this early juncture? I go back to that. I thought SCOTUS needed developed arguments. There were no arguments, just an order. What happened? All of this just over an imaginary weekend deportation flight?
Did SCOTUS 'jump the gun' (act too quickly)? Looks that way.
Why are you sure it was imaginary? Because you believe what the Trump DOJ tells you? The Court apparently no longer does.
This plays so well into Trump's populist rhetoric that the courts have gone wild. If you turn everyone around you into reactionaries, you are essentially controlling them. That's why Trump's public, populist persona is what it is. When he says something, everyone follows, everyone is compelled to respond to Trump. He's leading the conversation.
Holiday weekend...Easter? Deportation flight? Nope.
If it wasn't a holiday weekend, I would allow for a greater probability. Nobody wants to be transporting scumbag illegal alien gangbangers for their Easter (or Passover) holiday.
As legal fight raged, ICE buses filled with Venezuelans heading toward airport turned around, video shows
At least 28 detainees were placed on buses Friday evening at ICE’s Bluebonnet Detention Center in Anson, Texas, and then driven toward an airport about an hour away.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna202007
You're not very bright, are you?
A holiday weekend is perfect, if your goal is to spirit people out of the country before lawyers and courts can enter an order.
Because then the Trump can respond with Oops … I did it again!
And if you think Trump isn’t willing to make “his” peons work on Easter weekend, I’ve got a nice bridge to sell you.
Oh, and deporting (presumed) Catholics on Easter itself would absolutely appeal to Stephen "The Cruelty is the Point" Miller, who is a literal ghoul.
They only need developed arguments for cases they're not eager to take, like 2nd amendment cases.
"But...Why did SCOTUS even step into this case, at this early juncture? I go back to that. I thought SCOTUS needed developed arguments. There were no arguments, just an order. What happened? All of this just over an imaginary weekend deportation flight?"
As I wrote on another comment thread, Justice Holmes observed that "Upon this point a page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner, 256 U.S. 345, 349 (1921).
When John Roberts accepted his appointment as Chief Justice twenty years ago, he didn't sign on to micromanage the executive branch of government where a lawless president refuses to do so. President Trump is running roughshod over the legislative and judicial branches. I strongly suspect that every justice other than Clarence Toady and Scam Alito are getting tired of pulling Trump's chestnuts out of the fire.
NG, I am not following your point.
Trump and his henchmen on the evening of March 15, 2020 surreptitiously spirited Venezuelans out of the country despite a Temporary Restraining Order barring the Government from transferring certain individuals into foreign custody pursuant to the Alien Enemies Act. At the time the Order issued, those individuals were on planes being flown overseas, having been spirited out of the United States by the Government before they could vindicate their due-process rights by contesting their removability in a federal court, as the law requires. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436.81.0_5.pdf
As Antonio said in Shakespeare's The Tempest, Act 2, Scene I, what's past is prologue. Those justices who prohibited Trump from acting here had good reason to think that Trump's lawless history was in the process of repeating itself.
*2025
So to preserve the constitution, Roberts decided to violate the constitution by acting without jurisdiction? But I agree Bush II made a grievous error in selecting justices but it was in nominating Roberts. Now I don’t like the Bush administrations, either of them, but even great Presidents like Reagan and Trump make mistakes in SCt nominations.
Chief Justice Roberts did not violate the Constitution here. An appellate court has authority under the All Writs Act, 28 U.S.C. § 1651(a), to preserve appellate jurisdiction in a civil suit that may eventually come before SCOTUS. See Federal Trade Commission v. Dean Foods Company, 384 U.S. 597 603-604 (1966), superseded by statute on other grounds as recognized in Global Van Lines, Inc. v. I.C.C., 714 F.2d 1290, 1296 n.6 (5th Cir. 1983).
“There were no arguments, just an order.”
And there was no determination by SCOTUS, but rather a pause. Why can’t the Executive pause?
Roberts is a piece of shit. He's probably doing cocaine parties with Georgetown Law girls.
This guy’s just jealous because his are with the local community college girls and with his mom’s fentanyl.
No, I'm actually married, to a woman, and have spectacular children. You know, the way nature and Western civilization intended it.
Woah, you have a wife & children?
You're such a homophobic transphobe! If you also happen to be White, and have more than one child, well you're also a Global Warming Genocidal Rayyyyyyyycist.
Incel whines.
Why is it always the shit-for-brains, slack-jawed yokels who seem to know exactly how everyone is supposed to live? There must be some correlation.
Sure, they live in Canada!
Because they did not trust that Trump was telling the turth when he said no deportations were imminent.
Uh, Trump wouldn't even make that representation! Ensign said at the hearing before Boasberg on Friday at about dinnertime that none were planned for Friday or Saturday. He couldn't or wouldn't make any representation about Sunday. (And the actual victims were told that their deportations were imminent!)
It doesn't bother me that this decision attracted two dissents. The majority was certainly taking an extraordinary step, and can't be expected to achieve unanimity.
I simply think the majority was right - the executive shouldn't be sending people out of the country as alien enemies until the courts have a chance to figure out what's going on. And there's reason for concern that the executive might seek to send people out of the country while the courts are in the middle of considering the legal issues.
This is particularly concerning since I don't see how Venezuelans can be considered alien enemies under a fair reading of the Alien Enemies Act.
Can you tell the difference between Male and Female?
Yes. A female is someone who runs away when they see you.
Inaccurate. Males also run away from him.
Frank’s mom got this question so much when introducing him to folks.
By the way Frank, have you figured out if you’re a psychotic phoney with a deranged posting style and made up persona or are you actually a person who grew up in the US as a child and has lived here for decades but hasn’t learned basic third grade writing skills?
I love this "transphobia" in this comment. I too call people trannies as an insult. It's so fucking gross and pathetic.
That’s your term, I’m just talking about Frank’s lack of masculinity. Think of your dad (well, the one who claimed you).
I think it's possible that they could be, depending on what is going on with Venezuela that our government isn't making public. But, so much of what we see today isn't a fair reading of whatever, long before Trump took office, that I find myself wondering why he's the only President whose readings need to be fair.
I've said it before: I would actually approve of a lot of TrumpLaw if I thought it were going to apply to any other President. But it's not.
We are well used to your confident presumptions of future liberal evildoing and bad faith being used as excuses for why you support Trump but totes don't want to.
Don't forget also "past liberal evildoing" and "accurate assessment based upon observation".
That's where most of his assertions come from, not from your characterization of it.
Hope this Helps!
P.S. I can't believe you're here on a day when you're not milking some innocent taxpayer out of $$$$
Magnus hopes one day to be a taxpayer.
He's just an angry dude who doesn't seem to understand the value of work, only the value of labor.
It's pure speculation, but his vibe always made me figure he's a pretty meek guy outside the Internet.
I am enjoying the bromance forming between the 'I hate black guys' grey box, and his 'I hate Jews' grey box.
The courts never reined in any of Biden's communist policies, and you know it.
Were contempt hearings held after he said "We don't need a ruling on the CDC eviction moratorium because it expires next week anyway," and then proceeded to renew it the week after?
That of course is entire (D)ifferent. He was saving Public Health and fighting White Supremacy and Global Warming.
These are issues where the General Welfare clause grants the Executive (or Congress, whichever is lead by a D), unlimited authority to pursue what they believe promotes the general welfare. And since the Democrat Heart is pure, there is on improper animus or any other sorts of guardrails like they place on black-hearted Republicans.
“The courts never reined in any of Biden's communist policies, and you know it.”
He’d have to propose a communist policy for that to have happened, but SCOTUS struck down his school loan forgiveness, EPA rule, etc. Don’t you have internet in your mom’s basement?
The courts held up a bunch of Biden’s stuff. Rushing to do things and pushing the executive power envelope is sadly what POTUS’ often do, it’s the job of courts to vet that thoroughly.
Bellmore, once again, fails to grasp why what he calls, "TrumpLaw," has been invoked only against Trump. It happened and continues because nobody else before ever created novel criminal contexts to match what Trump serves up in multiple helpings weekly.
Whatever else it may make of Trump, history will marvel at his genius for off-the-cuff inventions of novel means for lawbreaking. Trump's second term start features a political crime spree the like of which has never before been attempted in American political history, maybe in world history. A chief executive ready to pardon confessed insurrectionists en masse, but not satisfied until he can misappropriate public funds to redress their fines and forfeitures, is not something anyone ever thought of before.
On a good day, Trump can come up with two or three new criminal scandals. Each, by itself, a slam dunk impeachment and removal from office for anyone else, followed by a criminal conviction.
For instance, congressionally unauthorized action, ordered by Trump, to block delivery of food aid to literally starving children abroad. Or concerted actions of various types to dismantle without authorization the nation's public health apparatus, and suppress use of vaccines for children and adults alike. Make it a point to notice, how Trump's crimes so often feature suffering inflicted on innocents.
Some instances like those barely make it into news reports, and vanish instantly from the public's over-sated attention. For all anyone can tell, there probably remains a trove of on-the-record-somewhere Trump crimes which no one has ever heard reported, while overwhelmed news outlets lacked capacity to keep up.
Those will remain as prizes for a cottage industry of future historians to bring to light. Add to those the other crimes Trump hides by omitting to keep records, or by falsifying records, or by public utterances asserting compliance he does not practice, or by reliance on insecure communications to bypass making official communications records. Not to mention crimes Trump commits in search of self-enrichment abroad.
By multiples, Trump is the most corrupt politician this nation has ever suffered under. Why? Maybe because Trump is not only the most malicious American president ever, but also because no other president was ever likewise abetted by a corrupt Supreme Court majority.
Chief Justice Roberts unleashed Trump's second term crime spree with his decision in Trump v. United States. That was an almost-excusable failure to recognize an improbably extreme danger before it became fully manifest. Roberts holds in his own hands the power to correct that error, and to stop Trump.
Roberts—if chastened by unexpected experience—and determined to set his error right—could assemble at least a bare Supreme Court majority to do it with little effort. Almost everyone reading this blog knows the names of at least 4 other justices who would support Roberts if he did it.
But Roberts seems intent on a course toward evasion. It is a course defined by minor correctives along the same ill-chosen heading, toward summer recess, and toward what Roberts may suppose foolishly would enable escape from blame for one of the most costly blunders in American judicial history. That would leave the nation to struggle unassisted through what is shaping up as its hottest summer in modern history.
Roberts ought to reconsider. His own failure to judge accurately the extent of Trump's perversity has paradoxically afforded Roberts a historical opportunity. He is positioned now as a candidate for the nation's roster of foundational heroes—a fate quite opposite the one history will assign him otherwise. Roberts ought to proclaim his mistake publicly, and call on the nation and his colleagues on the Court to back him while he makes not only his own amends, but also reassures this nation's future.
There are two problems with this. The first is that the formulation, "I'm only okay with holding someone accountable for wrongdoing if everyone else is" is just a terrible one.
The second is that because Brett only recognizes two types of law — Brettlaw and Bad Faith — he is incapable of grasping that there are gradations, and that what Trump is doing is worse than what others have done. So he imagines inconsistency where none exists.
It's not up to the judiciary to "figure out what is going on". They are supposed to be a neutral arbiter and not the prime player in the government. These wild west actions by the courts are inviting Congress to step in and set them straight. Roberts may rue the day he didn't step in early on when every action against the federal government has to come directly to his court in the first instance and bypass the lower courts.
Pauses=\= wild west actions
"It's not up to the judiciary to "figure out what is going on"."
Sure it is, especially in cases involving allegations of illegal imprisonment. While they're figuring out what's going on and what they can do, they can stop the executive from hiding the ball and shipping prisoners outside U. S. courts' jurisdiction.
Except Alito and Thomas had no problem with this sort of Supreme Court intervention when Biden was president.
At least liberal jurists admit they are outcome-oriented. The conservatives pretend they are innocently and objectively calling balls and strikes, even though it's plainly obvious their views on executive power, states rights, and more change on a whim based on the partisan affiliation of the executive.
Does Alito really believe nobody notices his rank, self-serving partisan hypocrisy? Get real, sir.
If you're going to tu quoque, you should at least point to what you claim they did during the Biden administration that was similar to the majority here. Unlike the recent cases where the Supreme Court has vacated lower courts' lawless orders, there's not enough recent context for anyone to figure out what you are talking about.
The Supreme Court on Friday preserved women’s access to a drug used in the most common method of abortion, rejecting lower-court restrictions while a lawsuit continues...
Two of the nine justices — Samuel Alito, the author of last year’s decision overturning Roe v. Wade, and Clarence Thomas — voted to allow restrictions to take effect, and Alito issued a four-page dissent. No other justices commented on the court’s one-paragraph order, and the court did not release a full vote breakdown.
https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-abortion-pill-mifepristone-access-f781488016640bf571faf36096339ea4
lol that doesn't prove your point, it actually proves the opposite.
lol, you Chinese don't know shit about freedom or White people.
In the Trump case they voted against the lower court order blocking the Executive, in the Biden one for the lower court blocking the Executive. Do you need hand puppets to explain this?
Did the court interfere when Biden illegally threw our borders open, and sued states that tried to do something about it?
But then again, you leftists think that filling America with as many worthless Latin American peasants as possible is the highest good.
Wave those hands more furiously, dude (but don’t knock over your mom’s lamp)!
At least liberal jurists admit they are outcome-oriented.
I'm not sure if I would use that term but liberals often do acknowledge that there is discretion that leads to subjective judgments and personal judgment calls. Justice Breyer, dislike or like his jurisprudence, honestly stated how he went about judging.
Conservatives do not avoid these things. It's part of judging. They are sometimes are less explicit about them.
https://blog.dividedargument.com/p/trump-v-us-anti-canon-or-anti-hero
This talks a bit about the interplay between pragmatism and partisanship over the past couple of administrations.
I disagree with some large parts of the analysis, but it is a serious discussion I think you might enjoy.
If John Roberts thinks he is another John Marshall, he ought to look at what Andrew Jackson said to the other John....
(1) Without offering an opinion on the propriety of the Supreme Court's order, I suspect the Administration (i.e. its lawyers) sealed its fate with some Justices by limiting its assurances that it "does not presently expect to remove" and "[i]f that changes, we will update the Court" to the representatives of the putative class. Whether or not we think it should have needed to, I think the Administration might have gotten the benefit of the doubt if it had offered such assurances with regard to the putative class.
(2) The disagreement on whether the Supreme Court had jurisdiction to issue this order is really a disagreement on the merits of whether the order (effectively a TRO) should have been issued (not the broader merits of the case). If you think there was a real risk that the Administration was preparing to remove members of the putative class without due process, then it's reasonable to interpret the district court's lack of immediate action as a constructive denial. Without an immediate TRO, detainees might be removed (contrary to the Supreme Court's decision in J.G.G.) and then the Administration would likely take the same position it's been taking - sorry, too late, nothing to be done about it now.
In other words, if you think there was such real risk, it would be reasonable to think the district court made the wrong decision as to whether an immediate TRO was justified based on the 4 TRO factors. Also, if you think there was such real risk, it's reasonable to think that the exigent circumstances which Justice Alito referred to were present.
The bottom line is that the Supreme Court disagreed with the district court over whether extremely expedited relief - effectively the emergency TRO the plaintiffs requested - was warranted. Given, I suspect, the administration's track record on this particular matter and the lack-of-assurances assurances I referred to previously, the Supreme Court saw the risk of due-process-less removals differently and came to a different decision regarding the weighing of the TRO factors.
We can dress this up as a disagreement over jurisdiction, but it isn't really. It's a disagreement over whether an immediate TRO was justified given the circumstances.
It is bizarre that Blackman suggests that the Court errs in its concern for alleged gang members. Note the word alleged. Basic to our constitution is the presumption of innocence and the requirement of due process. Shipping alleged gang members to a foreign prison is simply wrong. If the administration had evidence that they were actually gang members, it would not be scared of having to present such evidence in either federal court or immigration court.
The Trump administration has acted lawlessly and with contempt actions for lower court judges. It has no one but itself to blame if courts think that they cannot trust the administration not to fly people to El Salvador without giving them adequate notice and an opportunity for court review, as the Supreme Court required. Even Justice Alito made clear in his dissent that he expects the Trump administration to comply with the Supreme Court’s order.
Also, people keep conflating deportation and imprisonment. We aren't just deporting people, we're imprisoning them without trial in a third country beyond the reach of the US legal system.
If they were just being deported, they would be walking around the streets of San Salvador.
Imprisonment should require a criminal conviction, regardless of whether the prison is on US soil or not. It's like Trump is just randomly rounding up people off the streets and then using "deportation" as a cover for violating habeas corpus. Oh, sorry, they're not on US soil anymore, now we don't have to have a trial! Imprisonment for life!
Yah, boo, &c.
Okay, now as to the thing itself:
As I noted on one of the earlier posts, using the Court's own search function on the orders database with my (normally used) javascript blocker suggests that this sentence citing the Act is the only such citation in the database.
This post's suggests that equitably, the speedy injunction request didn't give the district court time to act. The difficulty here is that the argument then (correctly ) relies on jurisdiction not being subject to equitable discretion. Once the notice of appeal had been filed, though, the office on the lower floor was locked against them, and the only possible relief came from the C-suite. And if the circuit thought the timing an abuse of discretion, it could have sent it back down.
Conversely, the question of an appealable order is the quintessence of equitable jurisdiction. Hence the interlocutory order exceptions. So while there might be a prudential barrier, there isn't a barrier based in the Federal Constitution.
Last, note the fact that this occurred on a religious holiday. True, Washington crossed the Delaware for the Hessian ambuscado on Christmas Eve, but not all the philosophers and politicians of the Enlightenment thought that religion was a means of deception. Thankfully, a German painter painted a monumental canvas memorializing the event, making it easier for us to afterward wonder and talk about whether that was a good thing. If the administration tried to imprison a guest of the state and sent them off to perpetual imprisonment in a third country based on a shady tattoo on Good Friday, well, I think the event would speak for itself. I see no reason these things should ever be forgot.
Mr. D.
Edited to add: Note that Roberts' earlier order is on his own letterhead, and not in the sans-serif of the order list -- and more importantly, it was signed as the CJUS. Historically, the Anglo-American judgeship requires both appointment and commission, and there's at least the possibility that his constitutional office provides for the latter in any contingency.
Bottom line, Thomalito would take the regime's word for it.
Even in the face of video of prisoner busses headed to the airport.
The dissent’s assertion that orders such as this should only issue in truly exigent circumstances has already aged poorly.
I've never seen liberals fight harder than they're fighting now for illegal immigrants. Not one of these people objected to Biden's DHS flooding the country with untold millions of them. Not one TRO issued. When people tell you who they are, believe them.
This case does not involve illegal immigrants.
There actually was a case challenging Biden’s reversal of Trump immigration policies.
“I love the poorly educated!” DJT
When people tell you who they are, believe them.
Way ahead of you, Kleppe.
Blackman, too, doesn't know what "ex parte" means. (Note that Alito didn't use that incorrect term.) The court not waiting for the other side's response does not make the application "ex parte."
Well, what's the proper term?
The provision cited in the order:
The Supreme Court and all courts established by Act of Congress may issue all writs necessary or appropriate in aid of their respective jurisdictions and agreeable to the usages and principles of law.
It is fitting and proper for the context. Others have spelled out why. Steve Vladeck noted the dissent on Bluesky. A reply asked:
"Is it me, a non lawyer, or is this deliberately missing the point by a million miles?"
Vladeck: It's not you.
see also:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/legal-fight-raged-ice-buses-filled-venezuelans-heading-airport-turned-rcna202007
A series of Blackman lies. There is nothing "unclear" about why Boasberg is doing something.
(1) While SCOTUS held in JGG that he did not have jurisdiction to entertain habeas or habeas-like relief, it did not order him to dismiss the case; there were other claims in the case, and therefore the case remains open.
(2) The ACLU filed a motion in the JGG case seeking this relief.
(3) Boasberg scheduled a hearing to address that motion, as judges routinely do.
(4) After hearing from both sides, Boasberg correctly concluded that SCOTUS's JGG decision prevented him from granting the relief requested, and denied it.
Boasberg did not "demand concessions from" anyone. He inquired about the relevant facts. Ensign made some (weaselly) representations in response to Boasberg's inquiries. He was very careful not to assert that a plane wouldn't take off at 12:01 a.m. on Sunday.
With this kind of us-versus-them level of analysis Blackman should just join Mark Levin as a cohost.
They share the same level of fidelity to law and facts, and the same emotionalist throughline of seething resentment. AND Levin got an admin recognition-job recently.
If the Supreme Court issues an advisory ex parte proclamation, does the Executive have to obey it? Probably not.