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AP Gets Preliminary Injunction Reversing Exclusion from Oval Office Press Pool
I'm on the road and can't discuss this in detail, but I thought I'd pass along a few excerpts from today's decision by Judge Trevor McFadden (D.D.C.) in AP v. Budowich:
About two months ago, President Donald Trump renamed the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America. The Associated Press did not follow suit. For that editorial choice, the White House sharply curtailed the AP's access to coveted, tightly controlled media events with the President. The AP now sues the White House chief of staff, her communications deputy, and the press secretary (collectively, "the Government"), seeking a preliminary injunction enjoining the Government from excluding it because of its viewpoint.
Today, the Court grants that relief. But this injunction does not limit the various permissible reasons the Government may have for excluding journalists from limited-access events.
It does not mandate that all eligible journalists, or indeed any journalists at all, be given access to the President or nonpublic government spaces. It does not prohibit government officials from freely choosing which journalists to sit down with for interviews or which ones' questions they answer. And it certainly does not prevent senior officials from publicly expressing their own views.
No, the Court simply holds that under the First Amendment, if the Government opens its doors to some journalists—be it to the Oval Office, the East Room, or elsewhere—it cannot then shut those doors to other journalists because of their viewpoints. The Constitution requires no less….
To be sure, the Government seemingly views these Oval Office events as akin to dialogues, not observational newsgathering. And perhaps there is something to that comparison. After all, intimate events in places like the Oval Office might be framed as more closely resembling sit-down, one-on-one interviews—which are clearly "dialogue"—than broader press briefings. And the AP concedes that the Government may engage in viewpoint discrimination in selecting what reporters can interview senior officials. But the Government neither called witnesses nor presented any evidence to support this analogy.
The Court instead credits the AP's chief White House correspondent's testimony that there is a clear distinction between interviews and the press pool availabilities at issue…. Interviews usually involve a one-on-one or small-group conversation at the invitation of the President. They are "exclusive" and the press has more "control" over the process than it does over journalistic conditions in Oval Office press pool events. The news outlet works with the White House to decide the time and place of interviews. The interview would not happen but for the outlet's presence. Interviews also lack the "sense of competitive pressure that you get from a pool event."
In contrast, Oval Office press pool availabilities involve a gaggle of reporters, all vying for space and information. In "very many" of these "pool sprays," journalists are relegated to watching events unfold from 20–30 yards away and have no interaction with the President or other officials. The event would happen whether any particular outlet had a reporter there or not.
In these conditions, journalists "can't have … a substantive conversation" with officials like they can "in an interview." Instead, the reporters are "just there to witness what is said and what the reaction is, [and] what else is happening in the room." And though journalists in the Oval Office do engage in dialogue, that dialogue is directed to other members of the media and the public to whom they are transmitting news in real time—not to government officials. More, unlike in exclusive interviews, the Government is not dependent on private media organizations to convey its messages to the American people; the White House's media team is present to broadcast events and can do so whether or not other journalists do so….
Read the whole opinion for more.
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The ruling reads as if the AP is entitled to access because of tradition. They formerly had permanent spots and now they don't. The viewpoint discrimination is about their style guide. How is that viewpoint discrimination?
Tellingly, no bond issued in this TRO yet again. Maybe the reasons are justified, but I thought the law said you are required to post bond for a TRO. I guess that doesn't have to be consistently applied.
The AP still has access, they lost their permanent, privileged access and are now treated like another media agency. This seems more normalizing of their access to the POTUS versus it being privileged.
I guess I have to wait and see this one play out, but it seems like sour grapes for the AP because they're treated like any other new agency now, and they don't like that.
"I thought the law said you are required to post bond for a TRO."
IANAL, and have never heard of bond being applied to anything other than human arrestees or municipal financial causes. How and why does a bond get applied to a TRO?
Fed. R. Crim. P. 65(c).
Thank you!! That makes sense.
Noscitur a sociis, do you mean Rule 65(c) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure?
Sure did!
Their style manual is not just "Gulf of America" but also "birthing person" rather than mother, "menstrating person" other than woman, etc.
If I were Trump, I'd simply say "OK, no more press conferences" -- or hold them in an armory and invite 500 journalists.
It also says black as in "Black people" should be captialized, white as in "white people" should not. It's like they're trying to get people not to take them seriously.
You would actually like that style choice if you understood it.
Not only does it not recommend that, it specifically recommends against using “birthing people”.
https://x.com/apstylebook/status/1559904542900293638
We now have guidance saying that "pregnant women" or "women seeking abortions" is acceptable phrasing. \
Note the word "now"....
Note the word “is”….
With all the woke bullshit that’s in there, to find an example that isn’t would be impressive enough for a normal person. But to find one that they affirmatively say not to use—that takes a Dr. Ed.
From the actual AP stylebook: "Do not use overly clinical language like people with uteruses or birthing people."
Is there anything Dr. Ed gets right, ever?
1. This isn’t a TRO.
2. The rule says the bond should be “an amount that the court considers proper to pay the costs and damages sustained by any party found to have been wrongfully enjoined or restrained.” Do you think that amount is more than $0 here?
3. Do you think the judge got anything wrong in his analysis of the bond issue on pages 39-40 of is issue, including giving weight to the fact that the government didn’t ask for a bond?
All good stuff. I don't have a complete understanding of how the court was using bonds, and I admitted to that earlier. Thank you for the clarifications, I have no answers for your questions.
While you're right, that sort of seems like pedantry in this context — and I'm normally a fan of that! — since security is required for PIs just like for TROs. (When appropriate, which it isn't here.)
Government officials should put up personal bonds in first amendment cases where they're stepping on it deliberately, with it forfeited if they lose.
Their style guide expresses the viewpoint that the body of water is the Gulf of Mexico. Trump kicked them out because of that viewpoint.
Wasnt the media talking about boycotting the White House a month or two ago? And now they are mad they might not get a spot?
No? Of course not?
"the media"
"Tellingly, no bond issued in this TRO yet again. Maybe the reasons are justified, but I thought the law said you are required to post bond for a TRO. I guess that doesn't have to be consistently applied."
The District Court has discretion to waive the requirement of an injunction bond or to set the amount of bond at zero, provided the court specifically sets forth the reasons therefor. Here the District Court opined:
It absolutely is viewpoint discrimination. You could just as easily say that disputes about pronouns are mere style guideline disputes and not viewpoint disputes. But courts have consistently and rightly rejected that argument and found that disputes over he/she/they are in fact political viewpoint disputes, not mere style guideline issues. This dispute is no different.
It's a very slippery slope.
If the court refuses to use my preferred pronouns, is that viewpoint discrimination? Do I have a 1A claim? What about the police? If they don't use preferred pronouns, another 1A claim?
Disagreements about formal and local vernacular may be common, but do they rise to being viewpoint discrimination?
When and what is viewpoint discrimination? I don't fully understand the test of or delineation between the two.
And, yet, Presidents have long done just that. Conservative media were routinely excluded from just these events by the last two Dem Presidents. Ask just one inopportune question about Joe Bide’s health, or his son’s laptop or illegitimate child, and that media organization would be frozen them out in short order. Which essentially was what the Obama/Bden Administrations. WH replacing them with a more conciliatory, less confrontational, media organization.
I see Bruce is back to the "making shit up" phase.
He’s not making anything up. You’re flat out lying here.
What Bruce describes is EXACTLY what happened.
The AP insists on reporting false news.
How does that qualify them as "the press"?
How about the "equity" question? Since they have had front row seats for years, they should have to stay out until all the other organizations have had a turn at the front, right?
A better response for the AP, and for all legitimate news gathering publishers, would be to boycott press briefings. Let Trump get his word out on DOGE/MAGA/FOX and 4Chan.
Give any money saved by giving the White House stake-out budget to investigative reporters. Let the serious media compete for scoops, not for access to lies.
Given that the media has credibility below politicians, not the own you think it is.
The media is lazy and inept. Their investigations are laughable.
They all thought Biden was OK, after all.
No, they all told us Biden was OK. Not the same thing at all.
I agree that the Constitution demands equal access for journalists, but the Constitution doesn't include sedition and treason. Since liberal Democrats are by definition seditious and traitors, they are not covered by the Constitution's penumbras and emanations.
Is this satire?
That (D)epends - - - - - - - - -
No., A mo(R)on
Darn Trump judges!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_N._McFadden
Now you agree with Trump judges? How consistently is that true?
Obviously not every news outlet can get this kind of access. If the government is not discriminating on who gets accessed based on their reporting (or "beliefs" reflected in that reporting/style guide), then what exactly are you supposed to make that determination on? Lottery? Popularity power? Obviously the executive can't prevent the AP from reporting whatever they feel like reporting, but the notion that even if they went full "THE MOON LANDING WAS FAKED!!!" crankery, the White House can't diminish their access because that would be viewpoint discrimination, stretches 1A beyond recognition. I'm very curious what higher courts will do with this.
Viewpoint discrimination is not categorically forbidden. Rather, the First Amendment “requires heightened scrutiny whenever the government creates a regulation of speech because of disagreement with the message it conveys.” Sorrell v. IMS Health Inc., 564 U.S. 552, 566 (2011). The test is that “government laws and regulations may significantly restrict [commercial] speech, as long as they also directly advance a substantial government interest that could not be served as well by a more limited restriction.” Sorrell v. IMS Health Inc., 564 U.S. 552, 583 (2011)
Seems like denying access to organizations who report "crankery" could pass the test.
Zak, you're wrong that that the kind of "Viewpoint discrimination" at issue here "is not categorically forbidden." That language in Sorrell didn't address anything like the viewpoint discrimination at issue here. As you accentuated, Sorrell was addressing commercial speech, which is not at issue here.
As emphasized in Rosenberger v. Rector & Visitors of the Univ. of Va., 515 U.S. 819 (1995), public servants “target[ing]” anyone's “particular views” commit “blatant” and “egregious” “violation[s] of the First Amendment.” Any “viewpoint discrimination” is “presumed impermissible when directed against speech” never proved to exceed a “forum’s limitations.”
See also Shurtleff v. City of Bos., 596 U.S. 243 (2022):
“When the government encourages diverse expression . . . the First Amendment prevents [government] from discriminating against speakers based on their viewpoint.” Public servants “may not exclude” or punish any person's “speech” to repress a particular “viewpoint.” The repression by the president at issue here clearly is “impermissible viewpoint discrimination.”
"what exactly are you supposed to make that determination on?"
Number of readers, I'd think. The purpose of an interview or press conference is to communicate with the people in charge, namely the voters. You want to get the word out to as many as possible.
So Joe Rogan and Elon. And a lucky dip for the rest ?
Rogan, sure. Elon isn't really a journalist.
The AP isn’t a journalist either, it’s a platform that collects and publishes the stories told by various storytellers. Much like X but with a fraction of the readers and writers.
Wrong spot
This case troubles me. It strikes me as constitutionally suspect in both directions. On the one hand, viewpoint discrimination bad. On the other hand, the AP has no more "right" to be there than I do. If anyone can be excluded (and clearly, most of us are), they why can't they? "Tradition" does not seem like a valid legal justification.
Exactly.
Tradition" does not seem like a valid legal justification.
I don't know, Rossami. It seems to be important sometimes. Why not here?
If Trump had said "AP, you've had a spot for a long time, how about giving someone else a turn? Come back in a year." this case wouldn't exist.
Trump lost because he said "AP, you're barred because of your editorial choices. Change your reporting and I'll let you back in."
If you don't undetstand how those are different you're an imbecile.
Please stop giving them ideas.
Yes, but the cruelty is the point. Trump doesn't actually care about the AP's reporting; he wants everyone to bend the knee. Coming up with a pretext to go after the AP wouldn't make that point. He had to make it explicit — "We are punishing you for your speech" — because that's who he is.
Virtually every one of these court cases so far has been this way. There were ways he could, e.g., fire people without running afoul of any laws, but the point isn't to fire them; the point is to establish that he can do whatever he wants.
So...government punishing for speech is bad? I just want to get people on record as holding this as a valuable philosophy.
These are the people that cheerleaded bullshit prosecutions and a bullshit civil case. You didn't expect revenge?
Exactly. Which is why Rossami need not be "troubled." This isn't about AP's "right" to be included in the press pool. It's about their right not to be blackmailed over their viewpoint. And in practice, those things are almost always distinguishable. Certainly with Trump they are, since as you point out, the public threats are 99.9% of the point.
In other words, if some future executive tries to coerce a media outlet using techniques so subtle that neither the public nor the courts can discern them, then... they aren't going to be very effective anyway.
A lot of people seem to have trouble with the concept that motive matters. None of us have the right to work at Starbucks, but that doesn't mean that Starbucks can fire (or not hire) us because of our race. None of us have the right to jaywalk, but that doesn't mean that we can be ticketed for jaywalking because we criticized the mayor. And none of us have the right to attend a WH press conference, but that doesn't mean that we can be excluded from said press conference because we call the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of Mexico.
The issue, not resolved by the Court, is that the President as an individual has his own First Amendment rights, and he has personal control over his office space and AF1. This judge misses that entirely, and this order should be ignored.
rloquitur, every person has rights secured by the First Amendment. But when then president uses presidential "office space and AF1" those are not his, personally. Those spaces belong to us--the people--and the president can use them (temporarily) solely to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." The president cannot use government "office space and AF1" to attack and undermine our Constitution.
Really, now? People have a 1A right to enter the Oval Office? That's different from the WH writ large. Same as AF1. That the president doesn't own either of them isn't really the issue. If the President held pressers at Mar-a-Lago, he'd be able to bar any of them.
This order should be ignored.
And already you're back into the fallacy that David called you on not three posts earlier. Wow you need to lay off the merry jew wanna.
Perhaps you forgot about this? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight_First_Amendment_Institute_v._Trump In other words, no, if Trump were conducting official business at Mar-a-lago, he wouldn't be able to viewpoint discriminate there either. The Constitution is not so easily stymied.
Have you always been this dumb, or did you have to work at it? You act as if the incantation of viewpoint discrimination is dispositive. It's not. Trump obviously has the right to refuse to answer questions posed by AP on the basis of AP's viewpoint. AF1 and the Oval Office are the President's to use personally. So, from an analysis standpoint, they really are the same as Mar-a-Lago. The President as an individual also has First Amendment rights.
This is a ridiculous order.
rloquitur, you're missing the obvious and obsessing over the irrelevant. The right at issue clearly is not the "right to enter the oval office." The right at issue clearly is each person's right to be free from discrimination or retaliation by any public servant because of the mere expression of an opinion about how any public servant is performing his purported public service. This really should not be so hard to see. Check out New York Times Co. v. Sullivan:
“The constitutional protection” (due process of law) “does not” necessarily “turn upon” the “truth, popularity, or social utility of the ideas and beliefs which are offered.” Due process is determined by purported public servants injuring people for petitions and speech for viewpoint and content regarding public issues.
Our “Constitution created a [republican] form of government under which ‘The people, not the government, possess the absolute sovereignty.’ [Our Constitution] dispersed power” in many ways precisely because “of the people’s” extreme “distrust” of people with “power” at “all levels.” (Sullivan quoting Madison). In our “Republican Government,” the “censorial power is” necessarily generally “in the people over the Government, and not in the Government over the people.” (Sullivan quoting Madison).
All “public men” are essentially “public property,” so “discussion cannot be denied and the right” and “duty” of “criticism must not be stifled.” Trump usurping the power to punish people for speech/petitions “reflect[s] the obsolete [seditious libel] doctrine that the governed must not criticize their governors.” “The interest of the public” in the truth about purported public servants “outweighs the interest” of “any [offended] individual. [Clearly,] protection of the public requires” both “discussion” and “information.”
Rossami, this isn't about any particular person's "right" to be someplace as much as it is about a particular public servant's lack of "power" to exclude anyone based on a factor that violates our Constitution. The right violated is the right not to be subjected to illegal (unconstitutional) discrimination.
My prediction: AP will remain frozen out until the knee is firmly bent.
A constitutionally acceptable rationale will be verbalized by PressSec Leavitt. Will that rationale be sophistry. Perhaps.
I don't see a POTUS Trump letting them on AF-1. He can just wave the security flag, game over. And if it must be all or none, I foresee POTUS Trump saying, none.
The press is universally despised by POTUS' of both parties.
Let them be there. If one of their reporters asks a question, don’t answer theirs.
The judge made his law. He can enforce it.
Page 37:
They can lie without being there so how were they harmed or kept from spouting their propaganda? Must the target of their lies be complicit in order for their model to hold sway?
Lies from a reporter on the spot are worth more than lies obviously concocted by AP's team of dwarves toiling in a dungeon. AP had evidence that of lost income. The government offered no witnesses.
So, they'll get to stand there being ignored, taking up space that might otherwise be used by somebody who'd be called on. I guess that's a victory by some standard, anyway.
The judge's order discusses the difference between press conferences and the reporting pool. One of AP's complaints is inability to publish pictures of breaking news. The AP photographer would not expect to talk to newsmakers. Being near the front of the room is enough.
Gives the Trump team an excellent tip on their next move.
Ban all photographs (and thus photographers) except an official White House photograph / video team. Who can sell the photos and videos to the media. Thereby denying the AP its precious revenue.
What would the IA analysis be on the White House picking and choosing who to sell the photos etc to ?
( I expect this sort of move would cause the MSM to boycott the press conferences. But they'd fold in a week.)
Helen Thomas was a White House press conference reporter for many decades, and had turned into someone who asked a gotcha of the day, and they were afraid to not call on her once per, to say nothing of kicking her out.
In software architecture, we would label this kind of judicially-mandated requirement an "anti-pattern": a response to a problem that will be ineffective and ultimately counter-productive.
What in the world are the people funding these lawsuits thinking? How can it possibly be less expensive -- in every sense -- to go in front of a court like this and suffer public ridicule rather than just working things out instead? How many millions in legal fees alone is this going to cost the AP? Is it truly worth spending all that money just to buy the right to refuse to call a body of water whatever silly name the administration wants to call it?
Here, in my opinion, is precisely the perfect example of why the AP (and by extension the Democratic Party) is floundering: it isn't being serious. It has no idea how to focus on what truly matters. But wait! Isn't it the Trump administration that is not being "serious"? No. This administration is seriously tweaking the AP's nose. It is seriously mocking them for being stupid.
And you're falling for it.
Imagine, instead, this kind of response: the AP agrees to call it the Gulf of America, but then also pays 1/1,000th the cost of a lawsuit to hire a talented editorial cartoonist to make fun of the administration. It's a win-win.
Gaah. What am I thinking? Besides having no sense of proportion, they also have no sense of humor. So, forget that idea.
I guess if you have no principles yourself, it may indeed be confusing to see people stand up for theirs.
It has no idea how to focus on what truly matters.
I think freedom of the press matters. If he can punish AP for this, then he can punish them for anything. Publish an article critical of the tariffs, say, and no more access. How does that sound?
I think not going along with arbitrary BS matters, and especially not letting the President push you around matters.
Start with something minor, and push from there. I think you are the one who is falling for it.
The President gets to control access to AF1 and the OO. He has 1A rights too.
"If he can punish AP for this"
Trump did not "punish" anyone. He denied them access to the White House, something that 99% of citizenry don't have. The AP is still free to publish anything it wants. No one at the AP is going to jail or being fined.
It has been commonplace that politicians of both sides grant interviews to friendly reporters or new outlets. One of those who publishes something embarrassing about the politician might not be invited back. Is that a First Amendment violation?
You guys are so dumb. If Biden had told Fox they couldn't come to the White House unless they broadcast "Biden's cock puts Hannity's to shame" unsarcastically and uncritically every day at 8:59 PM, I don't think you'd be here saying "oh yeah that all seems totally fine, no problem there."
The arrogant judiciary lives. The federal courts don't control who gets on AF1, nor do they control access to the Oval Office.
This order should be ignored.
And in other news, Gordiloca lost again at the Fifth Circuit. What a travesty.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/08/opinion/democrats-lit-the-assassination-culture-fuse-now-their-silence-equals-violence/
What am I missing?
The First Amendment instructs that "Congress shall make no law..."
POTUS is not Congress. He is the Executive Branch.
How is the First Amendment violated when POTUS (acting entirely without Congress) kicks some reporter dude out of his house?
Otherwise, great strawman argument by this federal judge.