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Justice Alito Calls To Reconsider Justice Scalia's Proudest Accomplishment
Even Nino nods on the Confrontation Clause.
In the summer of 2008 when I was a rising 3L, I attended an event on Justice Scalia's book, Making Your Case. During the Q&A session, someone asked Justice Scalia what opinion he was most proud of. Without any hesitation, he said Crawford v. Washington (2004). This landmark decision applied an originalist framework to the Confrontation Clause. Prior to that Crawford, Ohio v. Roberts (1980) imposed a "reliability" standard to determine whether out-of-court testimony could be introduced. But in Crawford, Justice Scalia turned back the clock to the deep historical roots of the right to confrontation.
Or did he?
On Monday, the Court denied cert in Franklin v. New York, a Confrontation Clause case. Justices Alito and Gorsuch wrote statements regarding the denial of certiorari. Alito's statement calls into question Scalia's originalist magnum opus.
Alito explains that the meaning of "witness" in the Confrontation Clause is at odds with the meaning of "witness" in the Compulsory Process Clause:
In order to reach this conclusion, the Court was required to hold that any person who makes a "testimonial" statement (whatever that means) is a "witness" within the meaning of the Confrontation Clause, but this gave the term "witness" a meaning that is radically different from its meaning in the neighboring Compulsory Process Clause and elsewhere in the Constitution . . . After Crawford, however, only theCompulsory Process Clause's "witnesses" are people who must appear in court and take the stand. When a law uses the same term more than once, we presume that the termmeans the same thing every time it is used. See A. Scalia & B. Garner, Reading Law: The Interpretation of Legal Texts 170 (2012). Thus, it is startling to hold that the term"witnesses" in two provisions separated by nothing but asemicolon have very different meanings.
Citing Scalia/Garner to show that Scalia was wrong? Shots fired.
I have written that Justice Scalia's Heller decision failed to account for certain linguistic sources that can now be found in COFEA, but were not available in 2008. It is tough to fault Scalia for not relying on technology that did not yet exist. But this sort of textual evidence about the Sixth Amendment was available in 2006. Justice Alito makes this point:
These powerful textual arguments were known when Crawford was decided, but the Court dismissed them because its study of history led it to believe that the Confrontation Clause was meant to codify a well-established common law right against the introduction of a certain category of what we now call hearsay. More recent scholarship, however, casts doubt on key aspects of Crawford's reasoning.
Alito then cites a slew of law review articles that criticized Crawford.
Alito does not think that every originalist decision ought to be reconsidered when new originalist scholarship is brought forward. But he thinks that step is warranted here, especially where the testimonial/non-testimonial line has proven so unworkable.
Our body of constitutional decisions would be in perpetual turmoil if we reconsidered every decision resting on an interpretation of history that is subsequently challenged inthe law reviews. But as both JUSTICE GORSUCH and I recognize, the current state of our Confrontation Clause jurisprudence is unstable and badly in need of repair.
In my view, the problem with Crawford resembles the problem with Heller. In both cases, there was an originalist basis for the constitutional right. But in both cases, originalism did not provide a clear way to apply those rights to present-day circumstances. This is the well-known problem of constitutional construction. In Heller, Justice Scalia advanced a framework about arms in "common use," "dangerous and unusual weapons," "sensitive places," and so on. (These locutions were likely needed to hold five votes.) None of this came from originalism, and called for ad hoc judicial balancing tests. In many regards, Justice Breyer's Heller dissent proved more useful than Justice Scalia's majority opinion.
The Crawford test followed a similar path. The Court had to offer some test to determine whether a witness had to testify in person. So Scalia offered the distinction between "testimonial" and "non-testimonial" evidence. But this line was apparently invented by the Court, and as not grounded in history.
Bruen favored a "text and history" approach to the Second Amendment. Justice Gorsuch hints that a similar framework may be warranted for the Confrontation Clause:
When it comes to vindicating many other guarantees in the Bill of Rights, we have eschewed "ambitious, abstract, and ahistorical" tests in favor of ones grounded in the constitutional text and the common law that informed it. Kennedy, 597 U. S., at 534 (internal quotation marks and alteration omitted) (Establishment Clause). [FN1] Perhaps we should consider doing the same here.
[FN1] See also, e.g., SEC v. Jarkesy, 603 U. S. 109 (2024) (Seventh Amendment); Ramos v. Louisiana, 590 U. S. 83 (2020) (Sixth Amendment jury right); Knick v. Township of Scott, 588 U. S. 180 (2019) (Fifth Amendment Takings Clause); Currier v. Virginia, 585 U. S. 493 (2018) (Fifth Amendment Double Jeopardy Clause); District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U. S. 570 (2008) (Second Amendment); United States v. Bajakajian, 524 U. S. 321 (1998) (Eighth Amendment Excessive Fines Clause); cf. Carpenter v. United States, 585 U. S. 296, 397–404 (2018) (GORSUCH, J., dissenting) (urging a similar approach for the Fourth Amendment).
Perhaps the most likely consequence of Alito's statement is that critics of originalism will be emboldened. See, they will say, even if Justice Scalia's masterpiece of originalism is criticized by Justice Alito, that means that all originalism is bunk! This issue must have been really significant to Justice Alito, if he was willing to throw Justice Scalia's legacy, and originalism itself, under the bus. As best as I can tell, Alito dissented in leading Confrontation Clauses, including Bullcoming v. New Mexico (2011) and Melendez-Diaz v. Massachusetts (2009). Alito's statement has been a long-time coming.
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So Originalism is based on the concept of a living historical narrative that can change to suit present day situations.
We're all Living Originalists now!
Originalism is both living and dead, per your handle LOL
So a vampire?
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“Alito explains that the meaning of "witness" in the Confrontation Clause is at odds with the meaning of "witness" in the Confrontation Clause”
This would seem to be impossible, if that matters at all.
Look, those high-powered fancy lawyers at high-falutin institutions of professional education like South Texas College of Law can't be bothered to proofread.
Man, you are one tediously predictable SOB.
"In my view, the problem with Crawford resembles the problem with Heller. In both cases, there was an originalist basis for the constitutional right. But in both cases, originalism did not provide a clear way to apply those rights to present-day circumstances."
I think we really, REALLY need to distinguish between, "no clear way to apply to present-day circumstances" and "no congenial way to apply given the preferences of present-day jurists". They're not remotely the same thing.
The circumstance that's causing the problem is that modern jurists just don't like the idea of strictly enforcing these constitutional provisions.
That is a problem, but it’s not the only problem, and it’s not the one Prof. Blackman is referencing. That problem is that sometimes it’s genuinely not clear what the correct originalist answer is—indeed, sometimes it’s not even clear that there is one.
Or it could simply be technology. The founders would have never confronted the issue of a child witness testifying via closed circuit television from a different room in the courthouse. Or for their testimony to be substituted for a recorded statement given to a child advocate or some other mechanism meant to shield the child from trauma from being in the same room as an alleged abuser.
Or for a now deceased witnesses' statements to a detective captured on a body cam or other recording. Technology makes thing possible now that simply wasn't conceivable in the distant past.
In my view as the founders said, in short, "our rule is face to face confrontation in person" then that's what they meant. The fact that they never considered closed circuit testimony and therefore never opined about it simply means that it is not a permitted method in U.S. criminal trials.
Pass an amendment. Don't subvert the constitution to get to a preferred change.
Recorded witness testimony is plenty similar to a written statement by a declarant who is now unavailable (for whatever reason, dead, moved, whatever). How would courts have handled that in 1791? (Or 1868, if you prefer)?
Each state [and the feds] have rules of evidence. Not all rules of evidence take the evolving standards of 'confrontation' into account. I.e, some rules apply to civil and criminal trials but confrontation in the criminal law context is specific.
It also happens to be the case that challenging a state statute for violating federal confrontation rights is easier said than done but because it almost invariably arises after somebody is convicted - various procedural rules prevent appellate courts from actually addressing the problem or which allow them to sidestep the problem. Say something like 'due to overwhelming evidence of defendant's guilt the confrontation issue was harmless beyond a reasonable doubt' or similar.
I agree that confrontation means actual in court confrontation with meaningful opportunity for cross-examination. But legislators who pass bills making it easier to secure criminal convictions find it easier to get re-elected. So shit happens.
Agreed. Enter Rahimi. I thought in that case you have a pretty clear originalist view that the founding generation did not really care much about interspousal violence, at least leaving it to the family to deal with. And Rahimi's relationship with his girlfriend, based purely on fornication, would have been given no protection by the government.
But the Court simply could not bring itself to "allow domestic abusers to have guns" so they had to twist the original sources to get an outcome preferred in 2025 to most decent thinking people. That is not originalism.
If you read the opinion, you’ll learn that the founders were less immoral than you allege.
I did read the opinion. It seems that in cases of truly malicious abuse a wife could get sureties against her husband. That is a far cry from the DVP system that arose in the 1970s or 1980s in this country where we litigate every push, shove, and slap.
I'm not saying the new way isn't better all around, but if you are asking could you be fully disarmed in the founding generation, with 15 years in prison hanging over your head, because of a spat with your wife, then the answer is "clearly no" and they would have treated an illicit partner as a stranger.
It's not so much that they didn't care about abuse of wives, as that they didn't consider it a distinct offense from abusing anybody else.
There might have been procedural differences in prosecuting a case within a family, but that's a separate issue.
What group of people did the 2A protect at inception?? Hint, Heller was brought in DC and McDonald was necessary for it to apply to citizens in states.
Incorrect for the 5,000th time.
Huh!
Usually i can understand what Josh is going on about…it is just that he is mostly wrong. In this case he didn’t even make his point clear.
As women and African-Americans were commonly not permitted to testify at the time of the passage of the BoR, clearly the word "witness" does not apply to them up to the present day, right?
The 13A and 14A would help deal with at the very least to African Americans on originalist grounds.
As to JB, I would hope for more than a "best as I can tell" regarding an easy to check thing like that. At least from a law professor.
This also might get the pitchforks of some around here out:
In many regards, Justice Breyer's Heller dissent proved more useful than Justice Scalia's majority opinion.
Anyway, Scalia is gone. Alito and Thomas are his guys now.
Alito's objective is to make the Bill of Rights less of a barrier to the government. That's why he wants to overturn Crawford.
In Crawford, the government wanted to bring in hearsay.
I'm starting to think that this Originalism theory ain't all it's cracked up to be. It's almost as if an Originalist can get to any desired outcome depending on which sources the jurist decides are relevant. Who woulda thought that could happen?
Alito isn't an originalist but your general suspicion isn't that far off.
I don't think anyone ever said that if your goal is to lie, cheat, and steal you simple cannot get there by calling your decision an originalist one. As I said above, I think that is what happened in Rahimi,
The difference is that if judges are being honest, then the materials should be taking them in the same direction if they are faithfully applying originalism. The "living constitution" by definition allows two people to come to different results on a topic based on what they think is most fair.
As having a law degree, even a really good one, doesn't give you more or better insight on policy decisions that a plumber or electrician.
So an originalist who disagrees with you is a liar. Truly a nuanced doctrine!
Meanwhile, you don't know the definition of living constitutionalism. It's a catchall for all non-originalist methods of interpretation, some of which are at least as determinative as originalism.
Thought that is mostly because originalism, even if you pick one of the many flavors, is not that determinative.
You seem woefully ignorant about originalism and everything that isn't originalism.
It depends on where you look for your definitions.
“when I was a rising 3L”
I’m all for some innocent Blackman-bashing, but… where are you going with this?
Im a bit late here … but when I read that my immediate reaction was an eye roll about JB inserting himself into the narrative.