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Trump's Personal Defamation Lawsuit Against Pulitzer Prize Board Members May Continue
So holds the Florida Court of Appeal, rejecting the members' claim that they aren't subject to personal jurisdiction in Florida. The majority doesn't discuss the substantive merits of the case.
From Alexander v. Trump, decided today by Florida Court of Appeal Justices Jeffrey Kuntz, Burton Conner, and Ed Artau:
President Donald J. Trump, a Florida resident, sued nineteen individual members of the Pulitzer Prize Board, an unincorporated association, for defamation and conspiracy. Trump alleged that he sent letters on his personal letterhead to members of the Pulitzer Prize Board. The letters demanded the Pulitzer Prize Board take action to strip The Washington Post and The New York Times of the Pulitzer Prize awarded in 2018 for articles on purported Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election and alleged connections to Trump.
After Trump sent the letters, the Pulitzer Prize Board met remotely and concluded "no passage or headlines, contentions or assertions in any of the winning submissions were discredited by facts that emerged subsequent to the conferral of the prizes." The Board then issued the following statement on its website, with links to the original articles:
A Statement from the Pulitzer Prize Board
The Pulitzer Prize Board has an established, formal process by which complaints against winning entries are carefully reviewed. In the last three years, the Pulitzer Board has received inquiries, including from former President Donald Trump, about submissions from The New York Times and The Washington Post on Russian interference in the U.S. election and its connections to the Trump campaign--submissions that jointly won the 2018 National Reporting prize.
These inquiries prompted the Pulitzer Board to commission two independent reviews of the work submitted by those organizations to our National Reporting competition. Both reviews were conducted by individuals with no connection to the institutions whose work was under examination, nor any connection to each other. The separate reviews converged in their conclusions: that no passages or headlines, contentions or assertions in any of the winning submissions were discredited by facts that emerged subsequent to the conferral of the prizes.
The 2018 Pulitzer Prizes in National Reporting stand.
This statement led to Trump's lawsuit. But this appeal does not require us to address the merits of Trump's conspiracy and defamation claims. Instead, we focus on the personal jurisdiction issue raised by a motion to dismiss Trump's amended complaint. Of the nineteen defendants sued by Trump, only one resides in Florida. The remaining eighteen moved to dismiss the case for lack of personal jurisdiction. The eighteen defendants argue they did not commit a tortious act and did not direct the statement into Florida….
The circuit court concluded that the exercise of personal jurisdiction over the eighteen defendants was proper. We agree. Trump's operative pleading sufficiently pled that the defendants engaged in a conspiracy to defame him. Further, the defendants issued the website public statement in response to the requests of a Florida resident—Trump. They did so in a meeting attended remotely by a Florida resident who also conducted an editing review of the proposed website statement while in Florida.
Because Trump met the personal jurisdiction requirements of Florida's long arm statute and the Due Process Clause, the circuit court's order is affirmed.
Justice Artau added a separate concurrence that also opined on the merits:
"FAKE NEWS." "The phony Witch Hunt." And "a big hoax." President Donald J. Trump has publicly used these phrases to describe the now-debunked allegations that he colluded with the Russians to win the 2016 presidential election.
As noted in the President's complaint, Special Counsel Robert Mueller, Attorney General William Barr, the House of Representatives' Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, and the United States Senate's Select Committee on Intelligence all concluded "there was no evidence of collusion between President Trump, the Trump Campaign, and Russia." In other words, as the President asserts, "[t]he Russia Collusion Hoax was dead, at least until Defendants [as members of the Pulitzer Prize board] attempted to resurrect it" by conspiring to publish a defamatory statement falsely implying that the President colluded with the Russians.
I join the unanimous majority opinion because I agree that Florida's long-arm statute and the Fourteenth Amendment's Due Process Clause allow for the exercise of personal jurisdiction over the non-resident defendants for their alleged roles in conspiring to issue the defamatory statement standing by the debunked allegations that the President colluded with the Russians. But I write separately to address the merits of the President's defamation and conspiracy claims because the nonresident defendants challenge them here by arguing that they are not actionable under Florida's long-arm statute. Thus, the merits of the President's claims are crucial to our jurisdictional analysis and will be addressed in this opinion….
The concurring opinion is long, and can be read here. A short excerpt of the substantive defamation discussion:
Here, personal jurisdiction can constitutionally be exercised over the non-resident defendants because the President satisfied his burden to show that the non-resident defendants knowingly participated in a civil conspiracy with a resident defendant to defame the President.
The complaint asserted that "the nonresident Defendants knew Defendant [Neil] Brown was a resident of Florida when they willingly participated in a conspiracy with him to defame Plaintiff. Defendant Brown is a prominent figure in American media, leading the St. Petersburg-based Poynter Institute, a non-profit organization that serves the journalism establishment."
The complaint then asserted that, in response to the President's request for the Pulitzer Prize board members to withdraw the 2018 Pulitzer Prize in National Reporting after The Washington Post itself made corrections and deletions to the award winning article, "[t]he Pulitzer Prize board took no immediate public action" but instead "the board—including several Defendants who served on the Pulitzer Prize board at the time—circled the wagons to discuss, vote on, and authorize another evaluation of the 2018 Pulitzer Prize in National Reporting[.]"
The complaint then went on to assert that "Defendant Daniszewski and Defendant Boo, sitting as co-chairs collaborated closely with Defendant Kliment … and with incoming co-chairs Defendant Shelby and Defendant Brown to draft a statement in response to President Trump's letters" and this "statement would eventually be approved for publication by each of the Defendants through a full board vote and become the defamatory statement at issue in this case."
The complaint then further asserted that after the President made another request for the 2018 Pulitzer Prize in National Reporting award to be rescinded, "Defendants again took no public action, but communicated privately, including via phone and email. Defendants Daniszewski, Boo, Kliment, Brown, and Shelby finalized their defamatory statement and presented it to the remaining Defendants for approval prior to publication." The complaint also asserted that following this, "Defendants, as members of the Pulitzer Prize board, were briefed on the smaller group's work and thereafter approved the content and directed the publication of the defamatory statement."
The complaint continued by asserting that "Defendants, with knowledge of its falsity and/or reckless disregard for the truth, published the Pulitzer Statement to include the false implication that there was an established, nefarious connection between Russian attempts to interfere in the 2016 U.S. election, President Trump, and his presidential campaign, when it was crystal clear that no such connection existed" and the President suffered damages from this tort.
Moreover, the evidence submitted to the trial court did not dispel the President's assertion that the non-resident defendants knowingly participated in a civil conspiracy with defendant Brown to defame the President. As the trial court correctly concluded after considering the evidence submitted, the President met his burden to prove that jurisdiction could be exercised over the non-resident defendants….
The non-resident defendants also argue that the conspiracy theory of jurisdiction does not apply to them because they are all members of one Pulitzer Prize board. They argue that under the intra-corporate conspiracy doctrine, members of a board cannot conspire with each other.
However, the non-resident defendants do not contest the fact that the Pulitzer Prize board is an unincorporated association. Because it is an unincorporated association, it is not a separate legal entity from its members….
Because the intra-corporate conspiracy doctrine "stems from basic agency principles that 'attribute the acts of agents of a corporation to the corporation[ ] so that all of their acts are considered to be those of a single legal actor[,]' " the doctrine provides that "it is not possible for a single legal entity consisting of the corporation and its agents to conspire with itself[.]" Thus, it necessarily follows that the doctrine does not apply to the unincorporated Pulitzer Prize board because it is not a legal entity that the law recognizes as "a single legal actor." To the contrary, "[t]he individual members of [the] unincorporated [board] are personally liable for tortious acts they individually commit or participate in, or which they authorize, assent to, or ratify." …
Justice Artau went on to argue in some detail, that New York Times v. Sullivan was inconsistent with the original meaning of the First and Fourteenth Amendments, and closed that section with:
[U]nless and until the Supreme Court overturns New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, the actual malice standard, which the President sufficiently pled here, must apply. However, inferior courts can suggest, as I do here, that the Supreme Court revisit whether New York Times Co. v. Sullivan should continue to be the law of the land despite historical evidence showing it does not comport with the original understanding of the First Amendment.
Justice Artau's conclusion:
The President has met his burden of establishing jurisdiction to proceed with his asserted claims that the non-resident defendants acted with actual malice or reckless disregard for the truth by knowingly conspiring with the Florida resident defendant to defame the President by publishing the statement with "[t]he ultimate purpose of … resurrect[ing] the debunked Russia Collusion Hoax[,]" when, at the time the statement was issued, "it was abundantly clear to anyone interested in the truth that the Russia Collusion Hoax was utter fiction" and "had been contrived and concocted by malicious partisans[.]"
Therefore, the trial court correctly denied the non-resident defendants' motion to dismiss the President's claims over the asserted publication of defamatory "FAKE NEWS" [quoting Trump].
Jeremy D. Bailie, Timothy W. Weber, and R. Quincy Bird of Weber, Crabb & Wein, P.A. represent Trump.
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The President suffered damages? What were those damages exactly? How many people know or care who won a Pulitzer Prize for 2018? How many people actually read the Times and Post reporting in the first place? Did Trump sue the Times and Post? Did he succeed?
This is Trump taking a shot at a tiny target few people have ever heard of. This is just a part of his lifetime MO. He wants people to believe that he can punish anyone who criticizes him, who besmirches his escutcheon. OK, fine. Each of the board members owes him 1 dollar. And the Mafia should have sued every author who wrote that the killing of JFK was a contract hit job paid for by...somebody.
It is an utterly frivolous lawsuit, but so were his lawsuits against ABC and Meta, and both companies caved after he won because they were scared of him, and CBS is reportedly close to doing the same. (I assume Gannett will be next.)
You seem to think courts are used to enforce laws, they are not. They are used to impose pain on the other party-—financial, emotional, you name it—until the other party breaks.
Trump just got the court to recognize that the board is not protected by the intra-corporate conspiracy doctrine, they all have to personally pony up for this lawsuit. Few of them can shoulder that burden. He has already broken them.
Courts aren't about laws. Anyone who thinks they are hasn't been paying attention or fought a federal lawsuit.
You seem to think you know something about courts; you don't.
You seem to think you know everything about courts; you don't. You especially don't know squat how they make a mess out of everybody's lives they touch, just so lawyers can enjoy rituals and ignore justice.
Won’t discovery be fun? That’s why the repulsive trolls here are afraid of this litigation. The same repulsive trolls who are and were all in on the lawfare abuses. What disgraces if any really are legal professionals.
And if you think the troll is ignorant on the courts, you should ask him about the executive vesting clause or separation of powers. Basically, he wouldn’t recognize the Constitution if it swam up and bit him on the ass.
I've been on the receiving end of federal cases. Won all of them.
Try again, kid.
Uh huh. Was that in Dr. Ed's dissertation too?
"This is just a part of his lifetime MO. He wants [...]"
Why do leftists pretend they can read the President's mind? That they have open access to his innermost thoughts, motives, and impulses?
It's so bizarre, but they do it constantly.
You're crying that people with brains and the ability to form conclusions have an advantage in life that you do not?
Tough luck, assshole.
Leftists have brains? Since when?
Naw, he means lawyers. He actually thinks you have to be smart to be a lawyer.
If you were ever correct, you might have a point.
But you seem incapable of finding your ass with both of your hands.
Yes, all of the legal cases against Trump were based on bizarre mindreading theories. So were both impeachments. The leftists obviously have no ability to read his mind.
Stupid Schlafly as a juror: "I don't know if this guy is guilty. Yes, he grabbed his gun, drove over to the victim's house at 2 a.m., kicked in the door, pointed the gun at the victim asleep in his bed, and shot him. But, hey, the killing could have been accidental; I can't read minds, so there's no way to know if the killer intended it."
Guys, Nieporent is right here. A fact-finder can infer that a person intends the natural and logical consequences of the defendant's volitional acts. The issue on the first impeachment is that, at best, Trump had mixed motives. Biden was his rival, but a President has the right to determine the extent of the corruption of a previous administration by leveraging aid.
"a President has the right to determine the extent of the corruption of a previous administration by leveraging aid."
1) no he doesn't
2) that's not what Trump was trying to do
Why do idiot MAGA think that the entire legal system, which has for several eons in the history of the planet relied upon inferring a person's intentions and motivations from his words and deeds, suddenly needs to be abolished just because it makes Donald Trump look bad?
I am just saying that the attempts to read Trump's mind are really terrible. For example, consider the supposed NY conviction. It was all based on absurd theories that Trump was trying to cover up Cohen's crimes, or trying to avoid a campaign finance violation, or trying to evade taxes. None of those mindreading theories make much sense.
Huh? The New York Times has a paid circulation of 9.13 million and the Washington Post has a paid circulation of 2.5 million. Presumably most of the 10 million or so people who pay actual money to subscribe read some of what they paid to get.
Even if Trump has not suffered damages, he is doing a public service by holding these press agencies responsible for their malicious libels.
Next step: Ganging up on him was a benefit. He won the election after all. Dismiss please!
Followed shortly thereafter by "this benefit had a great and non-zero monetary value, and so Mr. Trump should have listed it as a donation. He needs to be impeached or something."
I've never seen any more evidence for the 'Trump is a Russian sleeper agent hired by Putin' story than the 'Biden stole the 2020 election' story. Yet somehow the former is something that is allowed to continue to exist in everyday discourse and in the musings of 'respectable' people and institutions while the latter is heresy and an existential threat to democracy that must be chased down and stamped out at every opportunity and even entertaining the idea may get you ostracized from polite company.
I remind you of Trump’s embarrassing joint press conference with Putin in 2017, when he disowned the findings of his country’s intelligence community; and the fact that he tried to collude, and he thought he was colluding, with the Russian government as to getting dirt on Hillary Clinton.
Would that be the intelligence community which colluded with Hillary and Biden, the one that denied Hunter's laptop was Hunter's laptop?
No.
And it’s DOJ and FBI components excused Clinton’s email felonies, facilitated Dem contractors using the FBI’s FISA interface to use the NSA databases for political opposition, started the Crossfire Hurricane Russian Interference investigation to help get her elected. Used the quickly discredited Steele Dossier, funded by her campaign and the DNC, to investigate Trump, and get 4 FISA warrants on CIA asset Carter Page, presumably to spy on (now) President Trump. That set up the Mueller Investigation to hide their previous perfidy and lawlessness. And most recently instigated, orchestrated, and executed the FL documents case against Trump.
NT = not true. Bear with me because there are a lot of them here.
"And it’s DOJ and FBI components excused Clinton’s email felonies (NT), facilitated Dem contractors using the FBI’s FISA interface to use the NSA databases for political opposition (NT), started the Crossfire Hurricane Russian Interference investigation to help get her elected (NT). Used the quickly discredited (NT) Steele Dossier, funded by her campaign and the DNC (NT), to investigate Trump, and get 4 FISA warrants on CIA asset Carter Page, presumably to spy (NT) on (now) President Trump. That set up the Mueller Investigation to hide their previous perfidy and lawlessness (NT). And most recently instigated (NT), orchestrated (NT), and executed the FL documents case against Trump."
Lying to yourself doesn't alter reality, Dan.
To be more precise, it was primarily the Counterintelligence Division of the FBI and the Counterintelligence and Import Contol unit at the DOJ, who coincidentally also were behind the FL. documents case against Trump.
In the summer of 2016, in text messages, on government phones, lovers Peter Strzok and Lisa Page had an interesting discussion. She was worried that Clinton would lose the election. And he assured her that he would, essentially make sure that she wouldn’t. She was FBI Deputy Director McCabe’s official attorney, and by fall, at least, Strzok was a branch chief in the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division, in charge of both their MidYear Exam (Clinton email server) and Crossfire Hurricane (Trump Russia collusion) investigations.
Compared to how these two organizations dealt with Trump’s supposedly still classified documents that were in his MAL home at the time of their heavily armed raid, they treated Clinton with supreme deference. They allowed her attorney to print out the emails that they thought were relevant, and give them those, and no more. That they were allowed to provide printed copies, instead of the electronic originals, was unprecedented, and became important later, when the FBI ended up with her aide, Huma Abedelin’s computer, shared with her then husband, Tony Weiner, to which most of Clinton’s emails had been routinely copied. If they DOJ and FBI had insisted on electronic copies of the emails, as they almost always did/do, the two tranches of emails could have been quickly deduplicated through the unique serial numbers in the metadata in the emails. This unique serial number was, of course missing in the original tranch provided by Clinton. Nevertheless, Strzok claimed to have spent a long weekend with his team, and found little of interest. That was right before the election. Soon after the election, it turned out that what they had actually done was to take a random 1-2% sample of Huma’s email copies, compared them to Clinton’s cpies, and announced themselves satisfied. The other place where the dynamic duo of Strzok and Page apparently had a major part, was in cooking up the excuse that Dir Comey utilized to not suggest Clinton’s prosecution.
Now onto the concurrently running Crossfire Hurricane investigation, coincidentally also run by Strzok. Actually effectively initiated by him (though it was actually opened up by his boss, Bill Priestip, based on evidence provided him by Strzok). In August (2016) there was an interesting text message exchange that involved Strzok and Page/McCabe trying (and I think succeeding) in debriefing Strzok, upon his return from Europe) before his boss, Priestap could. Much of what he brought back became the predication for opening Crossfire Hurricane, and a big part of that was the Steele Dossier. Of course, by September, they all knew that the Steele Dossier had been funded by Clinton and the DNC, and that Steele’s primary subsource had made much of it up over drinks in a Georgetown bar. But by then, Crossfire Hurricane was open, and would bedevil Trump for the next 4 years.
Strzok and Page weren’t done yet. With rising pressure within the FBI to shutdown Crossfire Hurricane (based on the by then well discredited Steele Dossier), they helped cook up the idea of a special prosecutor (Mueller). After the Mueller investigation was started, both took leave of their previous positions, and moved over there, with Strzok presumably taking the more information and evidence of more questionable provenance, to keep it out of the hands of DOJ IG Horowitz (and it was later transferred by the Mueller investigation to the House Impeachment committee for similar reasons, after AG Barr ordered it shut down).
That is phrased a bit hyperbolically, but if you haven't seen evidence of Trump's entanglements with Russia then it's because you didn't look. The nonpartisan Mueller investigation and the bipartisan, GOP-led SSCI investigation both found such evidence.
Evidence and conviction are two very distinctly different things.
Evidence doesn't mean shit without a conviction. Law 101.
Did the Pulitzer committee allege conviction?
Yes.
The Mueller investigation found no significant entanglements. Perhaps you were fooled by the Pulitzer committee.
The Mueller investigation found insufficient evidence of an actual quid pro quo to constitute the crime of conspiracy. That is very different than not finding entanglements.
Tons of questions abounded about the 2020 elections.
Just sayin'.
With as much evidence as Trump colluding with Russia.
Of course they found entanglements. Trump was an international businessman with dealings with dozens of countries, including Russia. Clinton had dealings with many dozens more, as Secretary of State, but that didn’t mean that she was colluding with any (or very many) of them to win the election.
AG Barr, upon taking office, told the Mueller investigation team to either justify their existence for continuing to investigate for prosecutable Russian collusion crimes by Trump and his campaign, or shut down. They couldn’t do the former, so did the latter. They had known almost from the start that there had been no actual, factual, predication for their investigation (remember, Peter Strzok and Kisa Page, who had effectively initiated Crossfire Hurricane on evidence that they knew had been fabricated, a good part paid for by Clinton and the DNC, in payback for Trump tying her use of her illegal email server, while Secretary of State, to Russia, which almost certainly had received the contents of her emails in near real time). They both had transferred over to the Mueller investigation, bringing along everything that they didn’t want the rest of the DOJ/FBI (and esp IG Horowitz - who, despite having been appointed by Obama, was not fired after Trump retook the WH in his “purge” of IGs). They had spent most of their time running (illegal) perjury traps on Trump people, which wasn’t in their mandate at all, and at least a year since they had found anything new involving their mandate - Trump/Russian election interference collusion. Their report was to justify the $32 million that they had spent (off budget, probably illegally - see Judge Cannon’s decision in the FL documents case), hounding Trump and his people. And it showed that it was mostly a big waste of money and time.
You mean the Mueller investigation that suffered blatant interference from the President?
The illegal Mueller investigation by an illegally appointed Special Prosecutor (see Judge Cannon’s dismissal of the FL case against Trump - the only judicial decision directly on this issue). That operated illegally for more than a year, after having determined that there was no evidence of any prosecutable crimes against Trump for election interference by colluding with the Russians, since that was their limited mandate, by engaging in perjury traps, of a type banned by the DOJ. The Mueller investigation originally set up to keep the evidence of perfidy and lawlessness of the DOJ and FBI National Security organizations in their attacks on a Trump with their CrossFire Hurricane investigation, the Carter Page FISA warrants, etc, out of the hands of the Barr DOJ, using the same Obstruction charges rejected recently by the Supreme Court, and then passed to the House Impeachment committee. It was instigated by those very same organizations to protect themselves, and they were still engaged in attacking him in their FL documents case against him (initiated and run by DOJ Counterintelligence and Export Control chief Jay Bratt), which many believe was organized to regain control over the documents that showed the very same perfidy and lawlessness that they instigated the Mueller investigation to hide. That Mueller Investigation?
JFC are you fucking stupid. First, Aileen Cannon did not rule "directly on this issue." Second, whether she had or not, her opinion is a non-precedential opinion good for one case only. Third, the D.C. Circuit — which actually does issue precedential opinions — has not only ruled on this issue in the abstract, but expressly ruled that Mueller's appointment was valid.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qhOKNZXZPCQjIZhZHEniDy1N8oJpW2hP/view
See, this is why it's easier to just all you a liar. That was not in fact Mueller's mandate. He was tasked to investigate interference by Russia in the election, including any involvement by anyone associated with the Trump campaign, not "prosecutable crimes against Trump." And at no point did Mueller ever find that there was "no evidence."
This is a figment of your imagination in every respect. There was no perjury trap, and they aren't banned
That DC Circuit opinion is obsolete. Eventually Scotus will straighten out the issue, and it will not be for private citizens prosecuting presidents or presidential candidates.
There was no blatant interference because it was Trump’s prerogative as President, and Barr’s as AG, to do just that, to shut down the illegal Mueller investigation. Mueller, his prosecutors, and other employees, had zero Constitutional rights to continue the investigation. Trump couldn’t interfere because they all worked for him, and the only power they wielded was derivative of his as President (Art II, § 1, ¶ 1, Clause 1).
They've never rescinded Walter Duranty's Pulitzer either. Wish I was so good at never making mistakes.
Fuck you fascist
Please be more specific.
What part of his post did you fail to understand?
What is it about Trumpers that causes judges to decide that the First Amendment needs to be cut back?
This was a motion about personal jurisdiction; not sure what you think about that constitutes cutting back on the 1A.
The concurrence said a great deal more, including both that Trump should win because the articles that won the prizes were all a pack of lies, and that New York Times v. Sulliven was wrongly decided and should be reversed by the Supreme Court.
I mean, the concurring judge was obviously campaigning for a federal judgeship, but they call it a concurrence because the author couldn't get any other judges to sign on to it.
But if it actually were a pack of lies (it of course was not), then Trump winning would not in fact constitute cutting back on the 1A. (As evidence for how hackish this one particular judge was, he didn't bother to actually identify any defamatory statements, but just talked about Russian collusion in the abstract. But the Pulitzer Prizes were for specific articles with specific statements, not for general notions about Trump's perfidy.)
Are you against defamation laws? The 1st Amendment doesn't mean you can slander someone to the point of impact. And Trump was absolutely wrongly impacted by the Russia story.
The fact that the cuncurrence is opining on the merits of the suit and saying it’s obvious that the plaintiff is right and should win before any evidence at all has been heard on the defendants’ behalf, says a great deal about its author’s moral turpitude, ahility to impartially consider evidence, and fitness to be a judge.
And it’s frightening that such opinions, which one would expect from a Nazi or a Soviet judge, are being written, apparently without any sense of shame, by somene wearing robes right here in America.
Perhaps the judge knows how to impress the "right people"?
Nazi judges had to impress the right people, while Soviet judges had to impress the left people. But both knew who they had to impress if they wanted not just to keep their jobs but stay alive. The right/left distinction didn’t really make all that much distinction in that respect. And I’m not sure it really matters here either.
MAGA generally—and new U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi in particular—have sworn a campaign against weaponizing the law. I presume that foretells a harsh response. I expect Bondi to target for professional sanctions every lawyer who had any role to organize a lawsuit so obviously weaponized, and to target alike the hack judges who enlisted in the battle.
At least, that's what I would have said, if it had not been so obvious that Bondi lied to the Senate during her appointment testimony. Hope it doesn't get me targeted to say that. In my defense, just hypothetically, I would have to rely on being targeted as proof that Bondi lied.
Don't worry lathrop, AG Bondi has bigger fish to fry than a 78 year old retiree with hair-brained ideas. You're safe. 😉
What was that about 78 year olds with hair brained ideas?
If the President is entitled to immunity from suit so as not to distract him from his important constitutional duties, should the courts not stay litigation by him for the same reason? Does distraction matter on which side of the versus?
Nice point.
Fails to engage, of course, but not because of any fault of yours. MAGA is made of impervium—tough stuff to get through. Whether an objective test could distinguish MAGA impervium from stupidity, who knows? I get that it is not polite, and likely counter-productive, to call MAGA stupid. So, "impervium," has its uses.
Tell me more about the competency of Biden the last 4 years.
You should probably do yourself a favor and STFU.