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President Trump's Invasion Executive Order
President Trump's order concerning an invasion at the southern border is the most full-throated endorsement of Article II powers I've seen in some time.
First, the opinion cites U.S. ex rel. Knauff v. Shaughnessy (1950), which recognized that "The exclusion of aliens is a fundamental act of sovereignty . . . [that] is inherent in the executive power to control the foreign affairs of the nation." During the travel ban litigation, several litigants suggested that this case was no longer good law. But Trump is invoking it, head-on.
Second, Trump explains one of the grand bargains behind the Constitution:
In joining the Union, the States agreed to surrender much of their sovereignty and join the Union in exchange for the Federal Government's promise in Article IV, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution, to "protect each of [the States] against Invasion."
This provision is part of the seldom-studied guarantee clause.
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
It is widely understood under Luther v. Borden that a determination under the Guarantee Clause is a political question. Then again, in 2021, none of the Justices could remember the name of the case, and Tara Grove has challenged that conventional wisdom. If a finding of an invasion is a political question, there is little for the judiciary to do to second guess that finding--that includes Judge Ezra, who I suspect will be a lot less busy over the next four years.
Third, Trump concludes that the federal government has failed this obligation.
I have determined that the current state of the southern border reveals that the Federal Government has failed in fulfilling this obligation to the States and hereby declare that an invasion is ongoing at the southern border, which requires the Federal Government to take measures to fulfill its obligation to the States.
This finding is significant. Texas has argued there is an invasion, which activates certain powers in Article I, Section 10, Clause 3. Specifically, a state can "engage in War, [when] actually invaded." And Trump has made a declaration of invasion. I am skeptical that the courts can second-guess this finding. Judge Ho addressed this point in United States v. Abbot:
Courts have no business deciding which national security threats are sufficiently serious to warrant a military response, and which are not. Supreme Court precedent and longstanding Executive Branch practice confirm that, when a President decides to use military force, that's a nonjusticiable political question not susceptible to judicial reversal. I see no principled basis for treating such authority differently when it's invoked by a Governor rather than by a President. If anything, a State's authority to "engage in War" in response to invasion "without the Consent of Congress" is even more textually explicit than the President's.
Whatever role the Governor has to declare an invasion, I think it pretty clear that the President can declare an invasion. And this determination would seem to be a political question.
Fourth, Trump argues that the INA does not "occupy the field," and the President retains inherent authority to exclude and remove invading aliens:
The INA does not, however, occupy the Federal Government's field of authority to protect the sovereignty of the United States, particularly in times of emergency when entire provisions of the INA are rendered ineffective by operational constraints, such as when there is an ongoing invasion into the States. The President's inherent powers to control the borders of the United States, including those deriving from his authority to control the foreign affairs of the United States, necessarily include the ability to prevent the physical entry of aliens involved in an invasion into the United States, and to rapidly repatriate them to an alternative location. Only through such measures can the President guarantee the right of each State to be protected against invasion.
And Trump uses this power to block entry of all invaders at the southern border:
By the power vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, I have determined that the current situation at the southern border qualifies as an invasion under Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution of the United States. Accordingly, I am issuing this Proclamation based on my express and inherent powers in Article II of the Constitution of the United States, and in faithful execution of the immigration laws passed by the Congress, and suspending the physical entry of aliens involved in an invasion into the United States across the southern border until I determine that the invasion has concluded.
Fifth, Trump is making an Article II override argument. Specifically, separate and apart from Section 1182(f), the President has inherent power to deny entry to invaders, and repatriate them elsewhere. Trump uses this argument to override other statutory protections:
Sec. 2. Imposition of Restrictions on Entry for Aliens Invading the United States. I hereby proclaim, pursuant to sections 212(f) and 215(a) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f) and 1185(a), that aliens engaged in the invasion across the southern border of the United States on or after the date of this proclamation are restricted from invoking provisions of the INA that would permit their continued presence in the United States, including, but not limited to, section 208 of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1158, until I issue a finding that the invasion at the southern border has ceased.
Section 1158 concerns asylum. Yes, Trump is arguing his Article II power overrides congressional asylum protections, some of which may in fact implement treaties. This provision is like an exam fact pattern to test the Supremacy Clause.
Sixth, Trump also delegates his full constitutional authority to the Secretary of Homeland Security to stop the invasion:
Sec. 4. Constitutional Suspension of Physical Entry. Under the authorities provided to me under Article II of the Constitution of the United States, including my control over foreign affairs, and to effectuate the guarantee of protection against invasion required by Article IV, Section 4, I hereby suspend the physical entry of any alien engaged in the invasion across the southern border of the United States, and direct the Secretary of Homeland Security, in coordination with the Secretary of State and the Attorney General, to take appropriate actions as may be necessary to achieve the objectives of this proclamation, until I issue a finding that the invasion at the southern border has ceased.
This is a sweeping delegation of authority from the President to his cabinet.
Specifically, the Secretary can "repel, repatriate, or remove" aliens, as provided for by Article II of the Constitution:
Sec. 5. Operational Actions to Repel the Invasion. The Secretary of Homeland Security, in coordination with the Secretary of State and the Attorney General, shall take all appropriate action to repel, repatriate, or remove any alien engaged in the invasion across the southern border of the United States on or after the date of this order, whether as an exercise of the suspension power in section 212(f) and 215(a) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f) and 1185(a), or as an exercise of my delegated authority under the Constitution of the United States, until I issue a finding that the invasion at the southern border has ceased.
Unlike some of the other orders, which go into effect in the future, the invasion order is effective immediate. I have not seen a challenge, yet.
The birthright citizenship order has been getting the most attention. But the invasion order arises in the area of most constitutional uncertainty. There just isn't much law to go on here, and the courts will flounder trying to decide these issues.
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I realize presidents don’t write these things themselves. But from the way they captured Trump’s voice and style, you’d never know it.
At this point they must have some AI trained to produce Trump documents based on simple prompts.
You must be thinking of Biden. AIs aren't very advanced yet.
Is Professor Blackman correct? = But the invasion order arises in the area of most constitutional uncertainty. There just isn't much law to go on here[...]
A lot of "constitutional uncertainty" arises from situations that simply haven't happened before to be adjudicated. When was the last time we admitted to suffering a land invasion? The War of 1812?
There isn't a lot of uncertainty in what invasion means, just anti-immigrant zealots trying to change the law by redefining words.
"...change the law by redefining words."
Where have we seen that before?
United States v. Trump: presidential 'duties' now include election fraud and document theft
I'd tell you to go suck an egg but apparently you can't afford them.
Obviously there isn't a lot of uncertainty on your part, but legally? Yeah, there is.
BrettLaw, maybe.
There you go again. Insults, not responses. You've shown you can respond, once in a while, with actual answers. Yet you favor insults. Why not provide an actual answer instead of leaving the impression that you have no answer, and therefore Brett is more likely to be right than you?
Brett is well known to exalt his personal interpretation of the constitution to the level of undeniable Truth.
It was an actual response to his ipse dixit about the law.
You're tone policing does not wear well, given what else is going on around the VC that you're silent about.
Find a better avenue than pearl clutching.
Brett provides logic and links. You provide insults. One is more convincing than the other. I'd think a lawyer would know that.
"Obviously there isn't a lot of uncertainty on your part, but legally? Yeah, there is."
Your standards for what's an argument is weak.
Anyhow enjoy your thread policing, though it doesn't seem to give you much joy.
Yes, heaven forbid that anyone but lefties redefine "insurrection" after the Burn Loot Murder squad and Antifa have quieted down.
Or FDR's New Deal. Or anything else partisan.
Incredible tone. Very responsive. I liked calling the black activists looters and murderers. Not insulting at all.
Anyhow, we're here talking about invasion. You should read the comments more before you go off.
The BLM activists were by no means all black, that is your personal bias showing through. You brought that racist comment to the discussion, not me.
And they did, in fact, Burn, Loot, and Murder.
Can't imagine why people don't want to have discussion with you.
There isn't a lot of uncertainty in what invasion means, just anti-immigrant zealots trying to change the law by redefining words.
Didn't you read the analysis of the completely unbiased and non-partisan Judge Ho? An invasion is whatever the President says it is, those elitist woke dictionaries be damned!!
Basically yes...there isn't a lot of law to go on.
What's an "invasion"? When the Pilgrims landed in the 1600's, was that an "invasion"?
Pizarro's first expedition to Peru to conquer it started with just 80 men and 4 horses. Was that an invasion?
Yes, and yes. Do you really need me to explain why?
re: Pizarro, no. re: the Pilgrims, yes please.
The only argument one can make that the Pilgrims were "invaders" is that they were uninvited immigrants. So yes, please - how precisely were the Pilgrims different from the people coming across the US southern border?
how precisely were the Pilgrims different from the people coming across the US southern border?
Seriously? Because the pilgrims had no intention of submitting to the existing regime and becoming Indians, whereas illegal immigrants on the southern border are only too excited to become Americans.
I mean, the distinction you're drawing isn't wrong in the abstract, but "the existing regime"? "Becoming Indians"? Do you think there was a country called India or NativeAmericania or whatever that even purported to claim sovereignty over the entire continent?
I think each tribe claimed sovereignty over its territory, which had well-understood borders, and which territory, between all the tribes, covered the entire continent, yes.
I do not think that is remotely an accurate description of the situation when settlers arrived here — even ignoring the many nomadic tribes.
https://curtiswrightmaps.com/product/native-american-tribes/
Sure looks sovereign to me:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroquois
Come on, you're being frivolous here. You can draw one of those maps to show the general range of antelope or killer bees or kudzu, too. It doesn't mean that these are fixed territories where sovereignty is exercised by this flora and fauna.
Did you even read the text under the map?
Just to be clear: some tribes claimed and exercised what we would call sovereignty over some defined areas. I am not disputing that. For many other tribes, there were no such defined areas, no such claims of sovereignty. And many geographic areas were not claimed by anyone. Unlike (what we now call) Latin America, the U.S. and Canada were very sparsely populated by the time of widespread European settlement.
And many geographic areas were not claimed by anyone.
Ok so according to you, the Indians are the only people in history to ever decline to inhabit inhabitable areas? Like where?
Anyway, even if that were true... so? Do you think the pilgrims were carefully avoiding Indian-claimed areas?
the U.S. and Canada were very sparsely populated
What does that have to do with anything? Wyoming (and practically all of Canada) is very sparsely populated to this day. Does that mean they aren't properly sovereign? How about Alaska? Are you prepping Trump's argument for an invasion-less takeover of Greenland? It's too sparsely populated for Denmark's claim to be valid anyway!
If you don't have a concept of a nation-state, then claiming territory where you don't actually reside doesn't make any sense. And if you don't have enough people you can't inhabit all areas just because they're inhabitable. (Which, like inflammable, means the same with or without the prefix.)
If you don't have a concept of a nation-state, then claiming territory where you don't actually reside doesn't make any sense.
a) Why is a tribe not a concept of a nation-state?
b) Sure it does. You use it for gathering resources and for defense. And you defend it.
Why is a raven like a writing desk?
I would need you to explain why the Pilgrims were an invasion, yes.
You don't think the existing occupants had reason to consider the pilgrims as an invasion?
I'm sympathetic to the idea that the Indians' claim was so weak as to not really count, but that's a very different sort of argument. When settlers come and bring their own sovereignty, ignoring the existing sovereign, and even defend themselves against the existing sovereign, that surely counts as an invasion.
But — as I said a moment ago — what "existing sovereign"?
We still treat Indian tribes as sovereigns to this day! What are you talking about?
Of their reservations, sure. Not over "the entire continent," to quote you from above.
Well, they weren't constrained to reservations before we invaded. 🙂
Yes. Please explain why each was an "invasion."
1) 80 armed men who entered then left an area.
2) ~120 men and women who came and settled in an area, some armed, some not.
Remember, unlike Joe, Trump still has his wits about him, and so this was likely a joint effort that he actually reviewed before signing.
Yes, Trump is famously precise about the details of the policies he signs off on.
Certainly much better than old, slow joe
Joe who? 🙂
Just as you and all the Josh haters and TDS victims are famously precise about your objections. What you clowns don't recognize, what Joe Biden's and Kamala Harris's advisors didn't recognize, is that resorting to insults leaves everyone else to assume you have no real rebuttals and the target of your insults is more likely right than you are.
So keep on keeping on affirming Josh and Trump are right. Go ahead.
Uh... most of the insults here are of Biden.
Is it even an insult to note that Trump isn't particularly interested in policy details? It's just an observation, not, by itself, a judgement. In fact, I always thought it was something his supporters liked about him.
You lot sure are sensitive about percieved slights against your dear leader.
It's a skill. It's like when Nancy Drew books are done by different authors or people tried to write in the style of St. Paul.
Trump's specification of the southern border speaks volumes. No one gets riled about (white) foreigners crossing the Canadian border.
Isn't that peculiar? https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/08/us/us-canada-border-terror/index.html
Is it possible that is because the southern border is where 90%+ of illegal border crossings occur that is where the focus is?
I rarely find whataboutisms peculiar.
That is because Canada is getting ready to become a US state (or maybe multiple states).
Oh Reall, NG -- https://www.wcax.com/2025/01/21/suspects-fatal-shooting-border-patrol-agent-were-staying-newport-hotel/
"The two suspects -- a man and a woman -- were on the radar of authorities before Monday’s incident and were reportedly looking to buy real estate -- in the Northeast Kingdom. The man who was killed has been identified by the FBI as a German national in the U.S. on a current visa. The woman, who was wounded, is an American, and is now in federal custody. Authorities have not released any other information on what prompted the shooting, the identity of the suspects, or if other agents were involved.
The bomb squad was also called in as a precaution after the stop but no bomb or hazardous material was found."[emphasis added]
As a Canadian, I've love you to clean up your crap and stop all the guns and drugs coming in across our Southern border.
How long before birthright citizens swept up without due process, and summarily deported, start filing civil suits against government figures at all levels?
Also, isn't there a federal criminal law which punishes deprivation of civil rights under color of law? I get that the American King gets immunity. How about his minions? Are we about to see the SCOTUS order a quantum jump in the extent of criminal immunity, to cover minions who exercise the American King's sovereign prerogative?
Yes, there is a "federal criminal law which punishes deprivation of civil rights under color of law" - but because it's a federal criminal law, it's unlikely someone will be charged for implementing Trump's policies during his term. (And of course, pardons exist.)
"How long before birthright citizens swept up without due process, and summarily deported, start filing civil suits against government figures at all levels?"
That is unlikely, at least insofar as an action for damages. The liability of federal officials for damages under Bivens v. Six Unknown Fed. Narcotics Agents, 403 U.S. 388 (1971), has been severely curtailed. See, Egbert v. Boule, 596 U.S. 482 (2022). The extraterritorial application of the Bivens doctrine is highly questionable. See, Hernández v. Mesa, 589 U.S. ___, 140 S.Ct. 735 (2020).
That having been said, constitutional challenges to Trump's executive order are highly likely to succeed. The President has no authority to unilaterally interpret the meaning of a constitutional provision at all, let alone in contravention of a settled judicial precedent of the Supreme Court.
Lawsuits challenging President Trump's usurpation have been filed on behalf of immigrant advocacy groups in the District of New Hampshire, https://assets.aclu.org/live/uploads/2025/01/0176.pdf , and on behalf of several states, the District of Columbia and the City and County of San Francisco in the District of Massachusetts. https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25499992/dem-lawsuit-on-birthright-citizenship.pdf
I expect that we will see preliminary injunctions issued in relatively short order.
NG, are you as certain of this as you were of the CO ballot case and 14AS3? 😉
The challenge is a certainty. Anything POTUS Trump does will be challenged.
How long before birthright citizens swept up without due process, and summarily deported, start filing civil suits against government figures at all levels?
They'd have to get near a US court first.
How long before birthright citizens of all sorts are swept up in all manner of law enforcement attempts by mistake? Oh, wait, happens all along.
As long as the error rate is reasonably low, errors are not a constitutional issue, the courts recognize that nothing is perfect.
If it were on purpose, that would be a different matter, of course.
As long as the error rate is reasonably low, errors are not a constitutional issue
That rather begs the question of how low "reasonably low" is. When the stakes are high, like (for example) in death penalty cases, the courts aren't very relaxed about any sort of error rate.
In this case the stakes are a lot lower than in death penalty cases.
I expect very few birthright citizens to be swept up.
I disagree.
Do you really think the Administration is capable of "sweeping up" (lovely term - just yesterday I swept up my kitchen) millions of people without making a lot of mistakes?
Where does your newfound appreciation of the efficiency of the government come from?
I expect the number of mistakes to be "a lot" for purposes of stuffing into a phone booth, but not excessive compared to the administration of any other law.
When you're dropped off in Honduras with no money, ID, or phone, will you be telling yourself that it's ok, the stakes are low, at least I wasn't accidentally executed?
Huh.
Guess he was serious.
Guess Milei isn't the only one with a chain saw.
Milei talks to his dogs, Trump talks to whoever paid the fee to be in the same room with him.
So salty today!
You gonna be alright?
No S425, M2 won't be alright for quite some time, LOL.
Four years at least.
And you don't even talk, you just issue another insult devoid of meaning. When was the last time any of your comments actually had information embedded within?
And I believe it was Clinton who charged rental for White House bedrooms.
What did "invasion" mean at the time of the Constitution? It assuredly cannot have meant large numbers of unarmed immigrants wishing to work in the USA.
Could it have meant large numbers of criminal gangs.
No.
Criminal seems to answer that question in the negative.
In case you missed Sarcastr0's point:
Why does the Constitution connect invasion to suspension of habeas corpus? Because it's a situation one wouldn't address through criminal courts.
How do the rules of war differ from the criminal code? Instead of making an arrest based on individual probable cause, you shoot at people because they appear to be one of "them".
How else do the rules of war differ from the criminal code? The people you capture are prisoners of war, rather than criminal suspects.
"Why does the Constitution connect invasion to suspension of habeas corpus? Because it's a situation one wouldn't address through criminal courts."
I think largely because during an invasion the courts would either be inoperative, or if functioning, would be overloaded by processing captured soldiers.
But, anyway, it's Congress that gets to suspend the writ, not the Executive.
I too would prefer a return to Founding Era immigration policy. But that will require abolition of the entire welfare state apparatus. I'm willing to make that trade. Are you?
Leading Theories of Interpretation and their proponents
1. Originalism - Bork
2. Textualism - Scalia
3. Living Constitution - Holmes
4. Welfare Suspends Meaning - Rossami
That was ... incoherent. Care to try again?
I think you got the general drift.
The meaning of invasion, as used in the Constitution, does not depend on the existence or absence of the welfare state. And especially, the meaning in 1789 cannot be retroactively changed by anything that happened in the 20th century.
Of course immigration policy can be coupled to welfare policy. But it still doesn't change what James Madison and Alexander Hamilton thought invasion meant, which was the question that SRG2 asked.
Immigration policy and social safety net are perhaps related, but are definitely not the same policy. Conflating is not productive for a discussion of actual policy, and isn't great for ideological signaling either.
And the perhaps related is quite perhapsy, since illegals are not eligible for just about every federally funded welfare program, except for the ones directed at children.
I didn't say they were the same policy but they are very definitely related (at least in any world short of the Star Trek Federation's alleged 'post-scarcity economy').
Your claim about federally funded welfare programs is ignores the many, many other social and economic costs documented by the anti-immigration advocates. I do not agree with their conclusion but I do not merely dismiss their evidence.
the many, many other social and economic costs documented by the anti-immigration advocates.
Ah yes, so a new thesis via relying on the people who aren't honest brokers who you are taking as honest brokers.
UNarmed?!?
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government . . . "
Does that mean we can outlaw the democrats?)
Is there any limit on the President's interpretation of Invasion? Could Biden have designated Trump an "invader" and "removed" him?
I suspect there is a limit. I imagine that anyone impacted by this law could sue, arguing that a) they're an asylum seeker, not an invader, and b) no invasion is in fact underway.
Declaring an invasion is a political question when there is in fact an invasion. But the President / Governors can't declare anyone they don't like to be an invasion. Maybe Newsom can declare ICE agents as invaders of California and use the National Guard against them.
The Constitution allows habeas corpus to be suspended in case of invasion. If a President can single-handedly declare an invasion, and courts can't review that, then presidents can single-handedly suspend habeas corpus. How can that possibly be right?
Didn't Lincoln do this?
In MARYLAND -- neither in rebellion nor invaded.
Lincoln, while Congress was out of session, suspended habeas corpus during a rebellion.
He did not block all judicial review -- a hearing was heard by Chief Justice Taney in his circuit judge capacity. The technical issues involved there are complex -- Steve Vladeck, for instance, wrote a law article discussing the nuances.
Lincoln's action did not determine if the courts had no power to at least determine if an "invasion" or "rebellion" was in place.
BTW, "what the Constitution allows" the president do here was greatly debated at the time with someone (Reverdy Johnson) agreeing with Lincoln who took a stricter line in other cases. The point still holds & I won't make conclusive statements.
Lincoln purported to suspend habeas in areas where the courts were fully functional, distant from battle, in order to imprison political enemies without trial. I guess he didn't 'block judicial review' in the sense that Taney was permitted to rule, but he did in the sense that Taney's ruling was flatly ignored.
The American Constitution, unlike the Weimar one, generally assigns emergency powers to Congress, not the President. (It assigns the ultimate power to amend the constitution to the states.) The authority to suspend habeas corpus is an example, but only one of many. Only Congress has this power.
There is a fundamental flaw with the reasoning behind the executive order.
While the order preamble is accurate that the federal government has plenary power over both migration and invasions , the Constitution explicitly assigns both the power to regulate migration and to repel invasions to Congress, not the President. Congress, not the President, is the final decision-maker. The President only has such power as Congress delegates.
Congress has, by long-standing statutes, delegated significant power to the President in both cases. However, the long duration of these statutes and the long practice of the President largely making the calls does not change the underlying Constitutional assignment of responsibility. The President in fact has no independent power whatsoever over these matters. The President’s only authority to act, if any, must come from Congress.
So Congress could, if it wants to, declare a surge of unwanted immigrants to be an “invasion.” But Congress has not done so. And since it has not, courts must construe the President’s power to act in light, and solely based on, what Congress has actually said. It is what CONGRESS means by an invasion that controls. What the President thinks matters only where Congress has granted discretion. Courts must construe the relevant statutes as they do any other acts of Congress.
Congress has enacted a system of statutes in which unwanted immigration is treated in a very different manner from invasions. I think courts have to take that system and its distinctions into account in determining whether Congress has delegated the President the authority to treat the two as the same.
And I suspect the answer will be that it hasn’t.
The President here appears to be attempting to usurp power expressly assigned to Congress. Courts should look at such usurpation skeptically.
And by the time this administration is over, liberals might not be so inclined to favor broad executive power with Congressional statutes merely a springboard for the Executive to do whatever it wants. Limiting Executive power to what Congress has actually granted it cuts both ways. It can protect liberals against nationalist executives every bit as much as it protects conservatives against liberal ones.
Yeah; a lot of Republicans — at least when a Republican is president — decide to think the constitution says, "The president has plenary power over anything related to national security." That was the upshot of Trump's EO relating to TikTok, for instance. But SCOTUS expressly rejected that in — as I noted in another thread — the Steel Seizure Cases. The president being CinC does not give him residual power over all things natsec (or foreign policy) related.
Shouldn't a Texas-based law professor spell Gov. Abbott's surname correctly?
Attempting to take the "What is an invasion" question seriously: I think that an invasion is an organized effort by a foreign state to seize and control territory. (Such seizure need not be intended to be permanent; if we send troops to a foreign country to overthrow the government and install our own choice and then we withdraw after accomplishing that, it's still an invasion because we were controlling the territory for a time and usurping the existing government.)
Now, that can probably be tweaked a bit, and it's not a mathematical formula, but it's the basic outline. That leaves out:
1) Individual migrants, even if there are a lot of them, whether legal or illegal.
2) Attacks that do not involve attempts to seize and conquer, no matter how damaging — 9/11 was not an invasion, nor were the atomic bombings of Japan. (Though the latter were of course preludes to an invasion if Japan had refused to surrender.)
3) Criminals, no matter how violent, whose goal is purely commercial rather than political/territorial.
I'd go for a broader definition of "invasion," though not broad enough to support this executive order. It seems to me if a discrete group takes coordinated action to breach a sovereign border, it should not matter whether it is an effort "by a foreign state." It could be a religious group, a collection of states, a political movement consisting of members in various states who do not hold power in any one state, etc.
It also seems to me that item 3) in your list ought to be in. If a criminal organization attempts to breach a sovereign border in order to, say, steal something, or assassinate rival organization members, that should be within the definition, provided it qualifies as to scope (a cross-border bank robbery would not be an invasion).
I think the core problem with this EO is that to the extent there is coordination among illegal immigrants at the southern border, it is on a very loose and informal basis. The goal of each is to get into the country and enjoy the benefits of residency, not to serve any group agenda. If anything, I would guess that successful border crossers probably hope that not many others get in, for fear of stepped up law enforcement efforts and competition in finding suitable employment.
provided it qualifies as to scope
Now you have to define the scope. I think you'll find it challenging. Better to leave out criminals, both for this reason and for consistency. Criminals aren't doing anything to displace or overthrow the government.
I see your point. I'm not sure that makes the line-drawing much easier though. Suppose a drug cartel sends hundreds of members at a particularly weak point on the border, powers through the defenses, gets to a major city and bombs a DEA office or overruns a prison. That's criminal activity but it seems to me on par with an assault by a hostile government. I would think it fits well within the ordinary understanding of the word "invasion."
Same scenario, but say they don't touch any government property after crossing but instead go on an assassination spree. I still think a lot of people would call that an invasion.
No doubt having it hinge on scope, combined with some kind of coordination/common purpose requirement, is going to make for some difficult judgment calls. But drawing a line between criminal enterprises and state action or quasi-state action may not be much easier and strikes me as less justifiable if the goal is to give effect to the common understanding of the word "invasion."
The line isn't about the perpetrator, criminals vs. states. The line is about the purpose. Are they trying to take control of at least a part of the country, even temporarily, or not? A state that assassinates a dissident within the United States didn't invade the United States. A cartel that takes over a border town, displacing the police and local government, did invade the United States.
(The term 'criminal' includes purpose in a way that generally excludes attempts to take over parts of a country.)
Right, I was trying to convey that with my original post. Though I'd add that the perpetrator and the purpose generally correlate.
Criminal gangs — at least in the U.S.! — are generally just trying to generate a profit, not control territory as a sovereign. They may be trying to secure a monopoly vis-à-vis other gangs on, say, drugs and prostitution in an area, but they're not trying to usurp the local government. There may be exceptions.
I think this makes sense provided not too much hinges on purpose. After all, notwithstanding the context in which the issue arose this time, whether to classify a border breach as an invasion may need to be decided very quickly - before the group's purpose is known.
Take my cartel breach example. If the cartel mob gets to a major city and takes over all the local government offices as leverage for, say, a demand for the release of prisoners, it would be an invasion under your and Randall's definition. If it instead splits up and assassinates various rivals and political enemies, then goes underground or crosses back into Mexico, it would not be an invasion (as I understand your definition) despite using the same amount of force to breach the border. Would we really want the government to have to wait and see what type of harm is caused before classifying such a breach as an invasion?
It's fine to draw up hypos, but I doubt there's really going to be any real world situations where it's not going to be obvious. Moreover, to the extent there's any doubt, I think it's overwhelmingly likely that the government will shoot first and ask questions later. (And in most cases, the government response would be the same in either case anyway.)
I think it need not be a formally recognized nation-state, but it must be at least a state-like thing. So ISIS's acts with respect to a bunch of middle eastern countries were an invasion, because it was a large organized group attempting to establish a state.
I think #2 (at least as to Japan) is unnecessarily broad.
I don't think you have to "seize territory" to "invade" somewhere. German aerial bombing during the Spanish Civil War could be an invasion even if they did not plan to seize any territory.
There might need to be some sort of official or semi-official organized force. A terrorist action might not be an invasion by itself. This is clarified in a reply. Anyway, that can address 9/11.
I agree that a territorial incursion -- like a bombing raid -- which serves as a "prelude to invasion" to use David's term -- e.g. to "soften up the enemy's defenses" -- should count as part of the planned invasion.
Part of the invasion, but not an invasion itself. And if the invasion ultimately doesn't happen, then there's nothing for it to be part of.
I wouldn't toss in that "prelude" qualifier.
The constitutional reference to "repel invasions" for me includes protecting against foreign nations sending bombers here as a reprisal for something we did or to obtain protection money.
They don't have to plan to seize or control territory or attempt to overturn the government in place. They are "invading" (using the dictionary and legal) definition of the word. A foreign state is infringing our borders and using military force against us.
At the very least, as we are considering the matter, I would not remove that category as a possible application. The Supreme Court has made the Guarantee Clause a political question. At the very least, what "invasion" would entail should be logical applications.