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The Roberts Rorschach Test
Who is defying the Courts?
John Roberts fancies himself as a very smart person. The Chief's confidence and erudition flows through his prose. Except when it doesn't. His 2024 year-end report has proven to be something of a Rorschach Test. He wrote "Within the past few years, however, elected officials from across the political spectrum have raised the specter of open disregard for federal court rulings. These dangerous suggestions, however sporadic, must be soundly rejected." Who was he talking about?
In the Washington Post, Ruth Marcus wrote that it was clearly J.D. Vance, primarily based on some free-flowing comments the Senate candidate made in 2021. The Wall Street Journal Editorial page wrote that Roberts was talking about Joe Biden:
The Chief mentioned no names, but we can, and look no further than President Biden. When the High Court blocked his $430 billion student loan forgiveness plan, the President said "the Supreme Court blocked it, but that didn't stop me." He boasted of forgiving even more debt despite lacking authority from Congress.
Mr. Biden also boasted of defying the Court's warning on his illegal eviction moratorium. He admitted that "the bulk of the constitutional scholarship says that it's not likely to pass constitutional muster." But "by the time it gets litigated, it will probably give some additional time while we're getting that $45 billion out to people who are, in fact, behind in the rent and don't have the money."
Or could it be the forty-six Senate Democrats who urged President Biden to flout court orders, and certify the Equal Rights Amendment? Or was it Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon who called on the FDA to ignore the mifepristone decision?
If the Texas judge, Matthew Kacsmaryk, makes that decision, Wyden said, "President Biden and the FDA must ignore it."
Saying he'd never called for ignoring a court ruling before, Wyden said the harm that would be caused by this decision would be irreparable.
"The FDA should go on just as it has for the last 23 years since it first approved mifepristone," Wyden said. "The FDA needs to keep this medication on the market without interruption regardless of what the ruling says. Doctors and pharmacies should go about their jobs like nothing has changed."
Who was Roberts talking about? A bunch of Democrats who actually said that specific court rulings should be disregarded? Or a Senate candidate who speculated on a podcast about what happens in a hypothetical constitutional crisis. Me thinks there is a bit too much of both-sidesism?
Sometimes when I write a post, and make a subtle reference, I think it will be clear who I am referring to. As readers will attest, those references often fall flat, or create confusion. The Chief should know better, and not take vague swipes at unnamed politicians. People on both sides will simply use the Chief's attacks to support their political priors.
Let's try this with a reference everyone should get: The way to stop politicizing the Court is to stop politicizing the Court.
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Yes. He’s talking about all of them. Just like he said.
Frank Easterbrook?
Roberts has never been MAGA enough for you, Blackman. He's delivered beyond your wildest dreams, but it's still insufficient. You want the kill - whatever that is. Only God knows what your teaching your students
You don't really want to know... really you don't.
I lost faith in Roberts when he changed his mind on NoBama NoCare and called it a "tax." Someone is pulling his strings, I don't know who.
What's going to happen is one of two things -- either some Federal Judge issues another "national" injunction against Trump and this time he does what Andrew Jackson did, or the rioting returns and this time Trump declares martial law (like Lincoln did).
The House won't impeach because the majority are from districts that will support what Trump does. Besides, once you've been impeached twice, does thrice really matter.
So Trump/Vance does what Trump/Pence never would have, it tells the judges to go fire truck themselves, without the "i, r, e, t, & u."
The word is "fuck," Dr. Ed. If you can call for mass murder and applaud rape, then you can put on your big boy pants and actually articulate the vulgarity.
You need the 'u' for 'fuck,' you fucking nincompoop, Ed.
He can't even get a stupid joke right!
"trUCK" if I am not mistaken -- a vowel is needed...
Me thinks there is a bit too much of both-sidesism.
Roberts is the one who said "from across the political spectrum."
Do you think that means "Senate Democrats?" He both-sidesed it from the get go.
I have trouble contemplating the depths of your sycophancy, Josh. I really do.
We’re 2 days into 2025 and Blackman is crashing out
With the number of breathless posts about Roberts's report he's made the past couple of days, I'm seriously starting to think Josh was reading the report with his pants around his ankles.
"John Roberts fancies himself as a very smart person. The Chief's confidence and erudition flows through his prose. Except when it doesn't."
JB needs a bit more self-awareness.
From the lofty academic perch that is the South Texas College of Law and BBQ Restaurant, it is easy to lose sight of one's own limitations.
Wait, what have you got against Texas BBQ?
Nothing! I just hate it when I walk into a Texas BBQ restaurant and find there's a law college in the corner.
JB needs a little more self-awareness.
Baby steps: Sometimes when I write a post, and make a subtle reference, I think it will be clear who I am referring to. As readers will attest, those references often fall flat, or create confusion.
JB needs a bit more self-awareness.
He doesn't have any self-awareness now, so he can't very well acquire more.
That’s weird because I was thinking that, within the past few years, judges from across the federal judiciary have raised the specter of open disregard for the limits of federal judicial power by imposing their own political political biases and showing contempt for the authority of one particular re-elected official. And these dangerous rulings must be soundly rejected.
Maybe you can excoriate it as "courtfare", and then demand Trump judges do it, too?
No, because I respect the rule of law and constitutional order. And judges appointed by President Trump do not show contempt for a coordinate branch and facilitate lawfare, like the DC circuit Democrat slugs.
"The way to stop politicizing the Court is to stop politicizing the Court." I will if Leonard Leo, Chuckles Koch, Harlan Crow, Mitch McConnell, Kacsmaryk, Clarence and Ginny Thomas, etc, etc, etc., and John Roberts will.
Keep in mind this has been a slow, 50 year turning of what conservatives have always claimed was a political court. Do you actually want a low-politics court, or just one that approves policies you like?
IMPEACH EARL WARREN.
Dig him up and impeach the corpse.
It's no more insane than holding an impeachment trial for someone who isn't even President anymore.
Keep in mind this has been a slow, 50 year turning of what conservatives have always claimed was a political court.
No, you can't escape through the bothsidesism door. Look at gVOR08's list of names again. They aren't justices or commentators. They're people trying, and mostly succeeding, to corrupt the court from the outside.
Conservatives complained about liberal activist judges 50 years ago, and now liberals complain about conservative activist judges. But that almost seems quaint -- this is something new. Today's politicization is mainly about actual malfeasance and corruption. And it's almost entirely on the conservative side.
That's very poignant and all, but what do you really mean by "corrupt[ing] the court from the outside" and why do you feel that's somehow magically constrained to conservatives?
Oh, and once you sort all that out, how are you defining and measuring success in whatever you mean by corrupting? Feelz badz?
a) McConnell and his sycophants (e.g. Lindsey Graham)
b) Harlan Crow / Justice Thomas
Need I say more?
Is CJ Roberts correct? That is where I start.
Given all the examples cited, I'd say CJ Roberts' assessment is correct. He has been Chief for ~19 years, and may go for another 16-20 years (for the record length as Chief). Hope he protects the institution (SCOTUS) from the political mudslinging.
They (SCOTUS) are our last (and best) line of defense for our civil liberties, when the other branches act in unconstitutional manners.
Small comfort. If the country's norms are abandoned (for whatever reason, and by whichever side), the country will not survive just on its constitution.
"As readers will attest, those references often fall flat, or create confusion."
So Prof. Blackman DOES read the comments.
Biden sounds like John Eastman, who pushed a plan he knew would lose 9-0 if the Supreme Court judged it. In Eastman's case there are consequences.
John, remember Michael Dukakis?
Dukakis I was 1975-1978
Then Ed King -- then a Democrat
Dukakis II was 1983-1991
During his first term, he didn't have control over his own party or really his staff, he was an idealist who thought that people would support him.
When he came back four years later, he was a wee bit more ruthless and understood how the system actually works.
Trump is going to be that way now. Roberts is bright enough to realize this and that's what he's worried about.
Prof. Volokh once observed that a lawyer's superpower is the ability to turn any matter into a procedural question. By the same token, Dr. Ed's is the ability to bring up Massachusetts or Maine in any discussion, whether or not it has the slightest thing to do with the discussion.
I'd be more impressed if Dr. Ed's superpower was invisibility. So much so that I've done my part to give it to him.