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Second Circuit Panel Upholds E. Jean Carroll's $5M Win Against Donald Trump as to 1996 Sexual Abuse and 2022 Defamation
The short introduction from the 17,000-word Carroll v. Trump, decided today by Second Circuit Judges Denny Chin, Susan Carney, and Myrna Pérez:
In this case, after a nine-day trial, a jury found that plaintiff-appellee E. Jean Carroll was sexually abused by defendant-appellant Donald J. Trump at the Bergdorf Goodman department store in Manhattan in 1996. The jury also found that Mr. Trump defamed her in statements he made in 2022. The jury awarded Ms. Carroll a total of $5 million in compensatory and punitive damages.
Mr. Trump now appeals, contending that the district court (Lewis A. Kaplan, Judge) erred in several of its evidentiary rulings. These include its decisions to admit the testimony of two women {Jessica Leeds and Natasha Stoynoff} who alleged that Mr. Trump sexually assaulted them in the past and to admit a recording of part of a 2005 conversation in which Mr. Trump described to another man how he kissed and grabbed women without first obtaining their consent. Mr. Trump contends that these and other asserted errors entitle him to a new trial. {[As to those other errors], Mr. Trump argues that the district court unreasonably restricted his defense by precluding (1) evidence that some of Ms. Carroll's legal fees were being paid for by one of Mr. Trump's political opponents and (2) portions of a transcript made by Ms. Carroll of a 2020 interview between Ms. Carroll and Ms. Stoynoff that, Mr. Trump argues, suggests that Ms. Carroll coached Ms. Stoynoff on her testimony. Mr. Trump also asserts that the district court erred in preventing him from cross-examining Ms. Carroll on three matters: her out-of-court claim that she possessed Mr. Trump's DNA; her decision not to file a police report; and her failure to seek surveillance video footage from Bergdorf Goodman.}
On review for abuse of discretion, we conclude that Mr. Trump has not demonstrated that the district court erred in any of the challenged rulings. Further, he has not carried his burden to show that any claimed error or combination of claimed errors affected his substantial rights as required to warrant a new trial….
I have little to say about the substance of the analysis, since it has to do with evidentiary issues that I generally don't follow; the opinion is available here, and is generally quite readable. (No part of the opinion deals with the substantive law of libel, which I do follow.) But here's what struck me as an interesting and relatively self-contained analysis as to the litigation funding question:
The facts established during the ensuing discovery confirmed that Ms. Carroll's case was taken on a contingency fee basis, and that, in September 2020, Ms. Carroll's counsel received outside funding from a nonprofit to help offset costs. There was no evidence to suggest that Ms. Carroll was personally involved in securing the funding, interacted with the funder, received an invoice showing the arrangement before or after her counsel received the outside funding, or had discussed the arrangement with anyone between learning of it in September 2020 and being deposed in October 2022.
Upon consideration of this evidence, the district court granted Ms. Carroll's motion to preclude evidence and argument about the litigation funding in the case. The district court concluded:
In general, litigation funding is not relevant. Here I allowed very limited discovery against what seemed to me a remote but plausible argument that maybe something to do with litigation funding arguably was relevant to the credibility of one or two answers by this witness in her deposition. I gave the defense an additional deposition of the plaintiff, and I gave the defense limited document discovery.
On the basis of all that, I have concluded that there is virtually nothing there as to credibility. And even if there were, the unfair prejudicial effect of going into the subject would very substantially outweigh any probative value whatsoever.
We perceive no abuse of discretion here.
First, district courts regularly exclude evidence of litigation financing …, finding it "irrelevant to credibility" and that it "does not assist the factfinder in determining whether or not the witness is telling the truth."
Second, the district court did not abuse its discretion in precluding cross-examination on this point because, as the district court found, Ms. Carroll's prior statement on the litigation funding was not sufficiently probative of her credibility. Ms. Carroll plausibly represented that she had forgotten about the limited outside funding counsel obtained in September 2020 when this question was first posed to her in 2022, and the additional discovery did not indicate otherwise. Rather, it showed that Ms. Carroll simply was not involved in the matter of who was or was not funding her litigation costs. Ms. Carroll testified that, after her counsel informed her in September 2020 that they had received some outside funding, she did not speak with her counsel about this topic again until the spring of 2023 and did not even know the funder's political position or why they were partially funding her lawsuit.
Therefore, by the time of her deposition in October 2022, Ms. Carroll had not spoken with her counsel about the matter of outside funding for over two years. It was not an abuse of the district court's discretion to conclude that the available litigation-funding evidence would have little probative value compared to its potential for unfair prejudice….
For similar reasons, we conclude that extrinsic evidence of the litigation funding had minimal, if any, probative value on the issue of Ms. Carroll's bias and motive….
To the extent Mr. Trump argues that the acceptance of outside funding goes toward Ms. Carroll's motive in lodging these allegations at Mr. Trump, the discovery also confirmed that Ms. Carroll publicly accused Mr. Trump of sexual assault over a year before the outside litigation funding was secured. Moreover, whether the outside funder was politically opposed to Mr. Trump was of little probative value because Ms. Carroll herself frankly admitted her political opposition to Mr. Trump, and her key witnesses testified to their opposition as well. On multiple occasions, defense counsel was able to bring out the political opposition and distaste for Mr. Trump held by Ms. Carroll and her witnesses.
{Mr. Trump separately argues that the district court also "improperly restricted questioning and argument regarding [an attorney, George] Conway." Ms. Carroll testified at trial that about one month after she publicly accused Mr. Trump of sexually assaulting her, she attended a party where she met a lawyer named George Conway. Mr. Conway encouraged Ms. Carroll to seriously consider filing a lawsuit against Mr. Trump. The district court sustained an objection to portions of Mr. Trump's opening statement that concerned Mr. Conway on the ground that counsel was impermissibly arguing to the jury that Mr. Conway had recommended Ms. Carroll's counsel.
Even if Mr. Conway's conversation with Ms. Carroll was somehow probative of bias, we find no error in the district court's ruling. Argument related to Ms. Carroll's choice of counsel had been ruled inadmissible pursuant to Ms. Carroll's unopposed motion in limine. Further, contrary to Mr. Trump's representation on appeal, defense counsel was permitted to meaningfully cross-examine Ms. Carroll about Mr. Conway. Ms. Carroll acknowledged that Mr. Conway had encouraged her to file the lawsuit, and defense counsel was able to argue these facts to the jury during summation.}
In light of the minimal probative value of the evidence, we conclude that the district court did not abuse its discretion in excluding it under Rule 403 [which provides that "a court may exclude relevant evidence if its probative value is substantially outweighed by a danger of one or more of the following: unfair prejudice, confusing the issues, misleading the jury, undue delay, wasting time, or needlessly presenting cumulative evidence"].
Roberta A. Kaplan and Matthew J. Craig (Kaplan Martin LLP) and Joshua Matz and Kate Harris (Hecker Fink LLP) represent Carroll.
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Now let's see what SCOTUS does.
My prediction: Nothing. Even if Trump petitions for Supreme Court Review, the Court will deny; it has no interest in reviewing these sorts of fact-heavy evidentiary questions in a case that merely involves a civil judgment awarded to a private plaintiff, even when the incoming President is a defendant.
Yeah, it has to involve either substantial questions still open, or an outright defiance of SCOTUS precedent.
Or at least four justices have to be willing to reconsider Calder v. Bull.
First, district courts regularly exclude evidence of litigation financing …, finding it "irrelevant to credibility" and that it "does not assist the factfinder in determining whether or not the witness is telling the truth."
I have little experience with litigation funding. But when a court writes that other courts "regularly" do something, that's a red flag that something is rotten in the court practice. Seems to me that that is highly relevant to credibility.
Interesting; can you elaborate why this would be so?
It's absolutely relevant that someone is using litigation funding. The funders are not beholden to the ethics rules and they exert pressure on their fundees accordingly.
Even if that were true, how would it be relevant as trial evidence?
How very convenient that E. Jean Carroll did not identify the exact date that this attack allegedly take place.
Otherwise, Donald J. Trump might have turned out to have an alibi for that date.
And how very convenient that E. Jean Carroll waited over thirty years to file suit.
Otherwise, security camera footage could have contradicted her story!
That is an argument that Trump was entitled to — and did — make to the jury, challenging her credibility. They nevertheless chose to believe her testimony, notwithstanding that issue and the passage of time, as is specifically the role of a jury.
Let's be honest here. There's no set of circumstances where this jury would have not found against Trump.
New Yorkers deserve the hell that will eventually come their way.
This lawfare was an abuse of the litigation process. I hope Trump is able to use the lawfare process against all the people who have defined him. He should sue them in Republican friendly jurisdictions. $100 billion verdicts against each of the major media outlets and the WP and NYT would be fun to see.
Sorry. What are you whining about now? It's sometimes hard to follow your train of thought.
It's something about "lawfare" being morally abhorrent, until your tribe does it, at which point it becomes a moral imperative.
"Thought?"
That's not so much "honest" as a desperate attempt at cope.
Do NYC juries always find against the "bad guy"?
This was filed in the most anti-Trump venue they could find.
Please answer the question.
Except a judge has the authority to overrule a jury's verdict if he feels it was given on emotional rather than rational basis.
The judge also is supposed to allow only relevant evidence. I do not see how a recording of a dumb joke he told over 20 years after the incident is in any way not prejudicial. Especially as the phrase "they let you" is quite important in this context.
Without any supporting evidence that they were ever in the same room, and with no possibility of proving that they were not due to the passed time and the vague accusation, this seems very much to be a case where they convicted Trump of being Trump and who cares about the details.
A judge can grant a new trial pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 59 if he agrees that the verdict was against the weight of the evidence. Trump did make a motion for a new trial, but arguing only that the damages were excessive. He did not argue that the verdicts themselves were flawed.
Trump admitting that he assaults women is certainly prejudicial, but evidence in a trial is supposed to prejudicial. (If it weren't, it would be irrelevant.) FRE 403 only bars evidence whose prejudicial effect significantly outweighs its probative value.
Claiming that it was a "joke" is (a) a lie that not even Trump has claimed — he said it was "locker room talk" — and (b) an argument for the jury as to the weight they should give it, not an argument about admissibility.
Moreover, evidentiary rulings are assessed by the abuse of discretion standard; it's not enough that an appellate court disagree with the ruling.
Like many, you seem to be confused about the fact that testimony is evidence. Trump could have taken the stand and denied it; he chose not to. (Probably because his deposition went so poorly — he confused EJC and his wife! — that his lawyers didn't want to risk it.) If he had denied it, the jury could have assessed whether they believed him.
That's why I said "Supporting Evidence".
Yes, testimony is evidence. However, Accusations aren't self-proving, much less half-accusations.
And this is half an accusation, missing, one of the most crucial parts, the date.
There is zero evidence other than the accusation that they were ever in the same room. And missing the date means that there is no way to show that it didn't happen either. It's effectively destroyed evidence.
Millions of women could make an effectively identical statement, give the exact same evidence, and get the exact same judgement. That's patently absurd and exactly what the justice system is supposed to avoid.
And the probative value for the tape here is NONEXISTENT. Because while it might support that Trump is the sort of person who would do that, it doesn't say a single thing about the act in question. Because, it's 20 years removed and whatever you call it: locker room humor, joke, brag, it's neither a statement about assaulting women (as shown by the explicit statement "They let you") nor a statement about the case.
It's crazy that people lie so explicitly about what he said and then so many people believe it.
Because they want to believe it.
I gather from the excerpts of the opinion that Trump argued financing was somehow relevant to Carroll's "motive." That might make sense if the funding source offered the plaintiff a bounty for bringing the case, or for winning it. But if only litigation costs are covered, I don't see how that would create an improper motive.
I could also see an argument that plaintiff's counsel might open the door for such evidence to be admitted. For example, suppose counsel argued that his client was brave to be standing up to a rich, powerful man. I could see an argument that it would then be fair to show that she was being supported by wealthy outside parties. But I didn't see anything like that in the opinion.
There's also some suggestion in the opinion that Carroll incorrectly claimed in deposition testimony that she didn't receive outside funding. Evidently, the trial judge decided that she merely had a memory lapse and thus the inaccurate statement didn't go to her credibility. That strikes me as a closer call. Ideally, jurors should decide witness credibility questions rather than judges. It seems to me a stretch to conclude that no reasonable juror could conclude she was lying when she denied knowing about the funding. But that minor mistake, if it was one, doesn't seem to come anywhere close to establishing reversible error.
Litigation funders usually get a percentage of the winnings. They don't just get back their costs.
Well that would make the argument that Carroll had some sort of improper motive to file the lawsuit even less plausible. She would have less to gain from a successful verdict than if she funded the case herself.
Um, he didn't say that litigation funders only get back their costs. They're a profit-making business; of course they get back more than their costs. He said thatCarroll only got costs from them.
What about the $83 million defamation judgements? I still don't know how Trump's comments defamed her. The more he attacked her, the more her social standing increased.
But I look forward to Trump getting $100 billion defamation judgements against people who said he was "literally Hitler." Sauce for the goose.
They call this cope.
Obviously not a lawyer. Actually, the more extreme and unbelievable a claim is, the less likely it is that a reasonable person will believe that claim. And, if someone makes a claim (outside of the libel per se categories) that no one believes, it's kinda hard to prove damages.
"X is literally Hitler." That claim is making the factual statement that X is actually Hitler . . . that Hitler did not die in a German bunker, that he has been living, hidden, for 3/4 of a century, and that he currently is living as person X. That's what "literally" literally means. (And, obviously, when someone says that Trump is literally Hitler, it's a fair assumption that the real meaning is, "Trump is so bad, he is just as bad as Hitler"...notwithstanding the [mis]use of the English word 'literally.' )
"X is worse than Hitler" is slightly different. It's also clearly an opinion, and not making a factual claim; and as such, pretty much absolutely protected speech against a public figure. (Eugene, being the First Amendment expert, will hopefully correct me, if I'm getting any of the above wrong.)
I get that you don't understand how Trump's statements defamed her, and it's brave of you to admit that. Fortunately, jurors in this case were able to be educated on the applicable law, were given the relevant facts, and then unanimously found for the plaintiff. A result that clearly upsets you. We understand your frustration and annoyance at the result of the trial court case, and your similar reactions to this ruling of the appellate court. Now that you have read the appellate court's opinion; can you share with us where you think this higher court got the law wrong?
How about "America's Hitler"? Yes, that would be fun to see.
I'm kind of confused why being raped was only worth $5 million, but being called a liar is somehow worth $88 million.
The jurors found for Carroll because they disliked Trump. You know it, and I know it.
...which is why you oppose jury trials--across the board?
Alternatively, when Trump lied, they concluded that he was a liar.
Remember, "she's not my type"?
One of these two is Marla Maples, the other is EJ Carroll.
Remember Carroll saying she was a "massive fan" of Trump's TV show The Apprentice?
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So, what you're saying is: George Stephanopoulos is paying Ms. Carrol's verdict against Trump.