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Florida's Lawsuit Against FEMA Over Discrimination Against Trump Supporters
You can read the Complaint (filed yesterday) in Moody v. Criswell (S.D. Fla.); there are all sorts of interesting federal civil rights litigation and federal courts issues, such as parens patriae, the scope of § 1985(3) liability, the intracorporate conspiracy doctrine, and more. And of course the case raises the factual question of whether the discrimination was the work of a rogue employee (as FEMA seems to argue) or was endorsed by higher ups (as the employee has claimed, and as Florida is asserting). An excerpt from the Complaint:
"[A]void homes advertising Trump." This was the directive that Defendant Marn'i Washington gave to federal relief workers responding to Hurricanes Helene and Milton in Lake Placid, Florida.
While the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) has fired Defendant Washington and called her behavior "reprehensible," Defendant Washington insists that she is a "patsy" and that FEMA made her a "scapegoat." Defendant Washington says that similar conduct occurred in North Carolina and throughout areas affected by Hurricanes Helene and Milton. And she represents that senior FEMA officials claiming not to know that the agency was discriminating against Trump supporters are promoting a "lie."
While the facts will continue to come out over the weeks and months, it is already clear that Defendant Washington conspired with senior FEMA officials, as well as those carrying out her orders, to violate the civil rights of Florida citizens. This conspiracy is actionable under 42 U.S.C. § 1985, which creates a cause of action for "[c]onspiracy to interfere with civil rights." See Smith v. Meese, 821 F.2d 1484, 1492 n.5 (11th Cir. 1987) (suggesting that "selectively enforc[ing] a law" by "prosecuting only Republicans" would violate § 1985 (quotations omitted)); accord Lyes v. City of Riviera Beach, 166 F.3d 1332, 1338 (11th Cir. 1999) (en banc) (discussing legislative history suggesting that "actionable conspiracies" under § 1985 "would include those against a person because he was a Democrat" (quotations omitted)); United Bhd. of Carpenters & Joiners of Am., Loc. 610, AFL-CIO v. Scott, 463 U.S. 825, 836 (1983) (suggesting that § 1985(3) "was intended to" protect "Republicans" because Republicans "championed the[] cause" of Black Americans after the Civil War).
Florida Attorney General Ashley Moody sues Defendants under § 1985(3). See Alfred L. Snapp & Son, Inc. v. Puerto Rico, 458 U.S. 592, 607 (1982) (recognizing a State's ability to sue in a parens patriae capacity based on discrimination against its residents); Abrams v. 11 Cornwell Co., 695 F.2d 34, 38–40 (2d Cir. 1982) (applying Alfred L. Snapp to a claim under § 1985(3)), vacated in part on other grounds, 718 F.2d 22, 25 (2d Cir. 1983).
General Moody seeks nominal damages, punitive damages, and a declaration that Defendants conspired to interfere with the civil rights of Florida citizens.
I'm not an expert on the federal statutory questions here (or on the parens patriae doctrine), and I'm too slammed right now to research further, so I thought I'd just pass along the Complaint, which sets forth the state's argument; I'll also pass along any motion to dismiss when and if that's filed.
The one thing I can say substantively is that, even if FEMA employees had faced hostility from some conservative or pro-Trump householders, that can't justify an "avoid homes advertising Trump" directive—just as the misconduct of some Jews or Catholics couldn't justify an "avoid homes displaying mezuzahs or crucifixes" directive, or the hostility of some Black Lives Matter supporters to the police couldn't justify the police denying services to homes displaying Black Lives Matter flags.
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I'm hoping the case draws Judge Cannon and she orders everyone involved in FEMA, all the way up to Biden, held in contempt.
It was not assigned to Judge Cannon. And not to plagiarize ng, but held in contempt for what?
I don't really care, I'm sure she can find something. We're operating without a rule of law, so if Trump's judges do unto Biden and his henchmen what they did to us, I'm all for it.
Thank you for saying the quiet part out loud, Lennyk78. You plainly don't care about the rule of law.
Neither do you.
Have Biden's henchmen been doing mean things to you for 4 years, Lenny? Sorry to hear that. Now your side owns everything. Perhaps now all you frightened white people can finally rest in peace. You have nothing to fear anymore, Lenny.
Gonna be a long 12 years (4 of "45/47" and 8 of JD) for the Hobie-Stank
I think it's terrible what the US government did to John Gotti. Pursuing him for years. His "family" should definitely seek retribution.
I would think the intracorporate conspiracy doctrine applies here. The complaint anticipates this defense in the "Legal Background" section.
I hate complaintbriefs. Fed. R. Civ. P. 8 requires that complaints contain a “short and plain statement of the claim showing that the pleader is entitled to relief.” Not legal arguments in favor of those claims. (I’ve seen some ornery judges strike such complaints and require plaintiffs to resubmit them without those paragraphs.) Including those is usually either the hallmark of an inexperienced lawyer or one angling more for press coverage than for victory in court.
I think the problem of prolix and verbose complaints in federal civil cases was exacerbated in the wake of Bell Atlantic Corp. v. Twombly, 550 U.S. 544 (2007), and Ashcroft v. Iqbal, 556 U.S. 662 (2009).
But those — which I do agree with — require that plaintiffs plead sufficient facts to make their claims plausible, not that plaintiffs insert legal arguments into their briefs. The opposition to the MTD is the place for those arguments.
Nothing in the “Factual Background” section (paragraphs 17 through 27) provides any justification for naming Deanne Criswell as a defendant. Instead, plaintiff waits until paragraph 64 to assert that, “defendants agreed with each other, and others, to deny Trump supporters emergency relief.” That is, I suspect, insufficient under the precedents NG cites, but if that is the way they want to go they should at least have made the claim in the “facts” section of the complaint.
When plaintiff loads up the complaint with legal arguments, but providing no justification for naming Criswell as a defendant, the lack of such justification sticks out like a sore thumb.
Yeah, that sounds like textbook Iqbal. It's just a conclusory statement.
There are only two named defendant-conspirators, Criswell and Washington, and no John or Jane Does. Washington said: "I did X." Criswell fired her for doing X. Unless there's a tape or e-mail, it will be tough to prove a conspiracy between them.
She came out in an interview saying she did nothing wrong and that it was going on all over.
Saying "what I did wasn't wrong" is very different from saying "I didn't do that thing." If she admits to directing people to skip houses with Trump signs, it doesn't really matter if she thinks that was wrong or not.
I haven't researched the legal issues that potentially are involved here, but the facts set forth in the complaint are Indeed disturbing.
People who desire such a state are already lining up their defense.
https://reason.com/volokh/2024/11/10/democrats-have-been-acting-like-the-proverbial-american-tourist-in-france/
You will find a "round up [of] the usual suspects" in the above link.
Apparently some FEMA workers in another state saw citizens carrying arms. And as such, were intimidated by the constitutional right to do so. There are no reports these citizens actually threatened FEMA workers. It is enough that FEMA workers observed them carrying arms. Another report has a single man threatening FEMA workers.
From the two instances many on Volokh have extrapolated that workers in Florida were correct in denying relief to anybody supporting Trump because of the "intimidation" suffered by FEMA workers in North Carolina.
Does 28 USC § 2679 allow the federal government to substitute itself as a defendant? The federal government does not have to intervene in cases about "a violation of the Constitution of the United States". This is a statutory conspiracy case but constitutional rights are involved.
In an interview, she compared Trump supporters to those having vicious dogs. You can watch the whole interview here:
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6364684342112
This is one reason Trump was elected. The federal government is a cesspool of political bias and cockeyed wokeness.
Ironically, most of the citizens are happy FEMA "avoided" them
What’s even more depressing is that if you read liberal sites on this issue like Reddit, you had an overwhelming number of comments totally supporting this discrimination, with statements like: “of course, because there were roving bands of MAGA types trying to kill FEMA workers” (which isn’t even remotely true).
There is a serious information divide in this country, but it’s not the one most people think.
"FEMA workers threatened by armed group in Tennessee"
Elk Mills, Carter County, Tennessee. WJHL TV.
Tracy Elder, president, International Alliance of Community Chaplains, 20 years experience in disaster relief, was working with Elk Mills Volunteer Fire Department volunteers. She found herself between FEMA workers and a group on ATVs questioning what FEMA was doing. Elder: “They were armed — they were all open-carry — they had surrounded [the FEMA workers] and there was a lady that was yelling at them and threatening them.” Elder called 911 but listened to the group’s grievances and explained to them what her group was doing. “I said, ‘Hey I hear you. You can say there’s no volunteers but I’m standing right in front of you honey and I’m here and we’re helping.'” Once the group realized that donations were going in, not being taken away by FEMA, and that the command center was run mostly by local volunteers, the “militia” left and returned with supplies to donate, according to Elder.
To me, FEMA calling guys and gals riding on ATVs carrying guns in bear and coyote country "miltia" is culture clash nonsense. FEMA tried to ground private helicopter owners who were going into remote areas on their own dime and bringing out people who were at risk. Tennesseeans who lost homes (sometiomes whole neighborhoods) to flooding and were looking for hotel/motel accomodations found that FEMA commandeered most the available rooms for FEMA staff. The biggest complaint I heard about FEMA was they paralyzed local people spontaneously helping each other and seemed to expect locals to mill around waiting on FEMA to make decisions for them. Decades ago at the ATF "Good Ole Boys Roundup" Liar of the Year contest , the winner was an agent who walked out on the stage, said "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you" and walked off.
"[A]void homes advertising Trump."
This was the directive that FEMA gave to Marn'i Washington to give to federal relief workers responding to Hurricanes Helene and Milton in Lake Placid, Florida.
I believe her when she says that.
Now that there is backlash against FEMA over that directive, FEMA tries to scapegoat Marn'i.
Sounds typical of the federal bureaucracy to me.
As an American gun owner I have downloaded the 288 page ATF handbook on federal rules and regulations on guns. The public verbiage from the last two nominees for ATF director showed they know little and much of what they do know is wrong.
What is the basis for your belief? Did you observe her superiors saying that to her? Do you know her? Did you observe her demeanor when she testified under oath to that fact?
That comes from the Great Unifier. Why would you help a homeless hungry injured "floating trash"